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good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president trump is winning wide spread praise from most members of congress and leaders around the world for u.s. air strikes in syria as you're watching a photo opportunity, this is not live, it is being played back from mar-a-lago. the big exceptions to the praise russia, syria, and iran. the u.n. national security council is meeting at this hour lead by nikki hailey on the syria question, and now we have a new supreme court justice. neil gorsuch is now confirmed. the vote was 54 to 45, announced by vice president pence sitting in the chair of the president of the senate.
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ashley parker is jieni injoinin along with ruth marcus. let's talk about the vote announced be the white house. >> we have senator graham here as well talking about the syria vote as well. so the gorsuch vote going down as we expected. senator mitch mcconnell went nuclear yesterday. that all played out and you saw that confirmation vote on the senate floor this morning -- this afternoon i guess now. we talked to mitch mcconnell before that vote went on and he said that chuck schumer started it and he was not taking responsibility. >> thank you, lindsey graham there talking about syria, i think as well. we'll get a update on that. ruth marcus, the significance of this ascension to the supreme court. you now have a complete court. he can get to work right away.
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big cases are pending. he can't rule on anything that has already been argued, but this is something of an unknown quantity, people change when they get to the high bench. >> big cases pending and coming. the constitutionality of the president's immigration ban. heading to a supreme court near you. look, the confirmation of a justice is always a new justice is always a momentous occasion. clearly going to help cement in place a conservative court, replacing an older justice that passed away, justice scalia. it is not just the addition of justice gorsuch, but it paves the way for the addition, tentially, by president trump of anoer one or two potentially more justices, possibly swing in a seat like
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justice kennedy, or one of the liberal justices becoming ill and is unable to serve, you can imagine justice thomas leaving now that the coast is clear for him. very big changes particularly in store for the court. as a result of this nomination and confirmation and big changes in store for the senate in terms of both the really hard feelings that are in the body, and the potential threat to the filibuster as applied to legislative matters in addition to nominations. >> when we look, ashley parker, at that relationship in the senate, the big issues still to be addressed and the investigation into russia. i think ashley is not with us, but ruth, we want to continue talking. as there is so much happening today. we are of course going to be discussing the syria strike and
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the fallout from that. all of the international implications of that. you as a harvard trained lawyer and watching the court for a long time, what impact might he have as a new justice. we always watch to see how people fold in. of course clarence thomas is the quiet one. sonia sotomayor is the most aggressive in questioning and commenting. >> with the addition of a new justice it is a new court. it may not matter so much in terms of the dynamics of the bench, that is the part that we see, but what matters is the dynamics in the court. for all of his silence, justice thomas steakaked out an importa set of positions and it will be important to see weather justice
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gorsuch will be an originalist or not. and there is all sorts of questions about one potentially big difference that sounds wonky, but i will try to do it in a digestible way. as judge, judge gorsuch wanted more searching inquiry into looking at regulations and whether or not courts have been too deferential to agency recommendations. that is different from justice ska scalia. he could make a big change in that. it could be a two-prong deregulatory assault. i have to say from his confirmation hearings that there is a lot that remains unknown about him because he was very --
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we talked about this before, very name, rank, and serial number. >> pete williams, your analysis now of this new justice. now they are nine. >> right, a blustery day here outside of the supreme court. a little news here first of all. judge gorsuch was back in colorado today watching the vote. got calls of congratulations. the swearing in will happen on monday. supreme court justices get two oaths before they're officially justices. the first wlun one will be here 9:00 in the morning, a private court, the constitutional oath, the same one, later that day. the judicial for the supreme court justices will start
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working. the court is not in session, okay. the final 13 kiess of the term, symbolically, it will be a departure from the practice of the obama administration if president obama decided that it didn't look right. that you should symbolize their independence by having them sworn in here. so sonia sotomayor were sworn in public ceremonies, but this is different from the normal practice. in terms of the last cases of the term, andrea, those are the only ones he can vote on. he can't vote on any cases that were argued before he got here. there is a biggie on april 19th, the court will take up a religious freedom question. here is the basic issue. it involves a school run by a luther
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lutheran church in missouri, and they wanted to get money to resurface playgrounds with state money. they qualified except for one big problem, the missouri state constitution bans giving money to churches and the church is suing saying that is religious discrimination. if you have a program available to everybody, but churches cannot participate, that violates their religious freedom and the constitution. so that will be an important case and he will be able to participate in that one, andrea. >> pete williams at the kour. and ashley parker, all of this, the successful confirmation of a supreme court justice for the white house but at the same time a lot happening internally in the white house, you have the syrian air strikes, the first military test for this administration. let's talk about what you are hearing. which is the internal warfare between the steve bannon camp
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own the jared kushner camp, and it seems like family comes first. >> family always comes first with donald trump and that includes his son-in-law, jared kushner. we're finding that in this battling with right now steve bannon seems to be losing. we don't think she going anywhere any time soon, but as a lot of aides told us privately, there is a graveyard of previous campaign managers and advisors that went against jared kushner. now we go to mar-a-lago where chris janson is covering the president. and bill neily is in moscow with
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reaction to all of this. let's talk about the president, decision making, and what you x. -- expect is going on with president xi right now watching the unfolding of the airstrikes in syria last night as he was leaving the dinner, and certainly a strong warning about what the white house is prepared to do if the issue of north korea gets more perilous. >> reporter: i don't think there is any doubt that the timing for the white house is advantage to them. yes extremely complicated, high k drama where you have a dinner and the president leaves to go down into the secure room, and we have a picture of him with his top team there surund by quite a few people. we now that rex tillerson was there, that mcmaster was there,
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but you see reince priebus, jared kushner as the strikes were getting under way. in the middle of a meeting that was all right going to be fraught because of the situation in north korea. we just got that tape played back from the brief pool spray as we call it as that meeting is getting wrapped up as the visit by the president of china is getting wrapped up with president trump saying they made tremendous progress. that the relationship is outstanding. he expects there will be additional progress, and said lots of very bad problems will go away. didn't make a specific reference to that, but the obvious follow up question was about north degree kr korea. he did not answer that. nor did he say more about what was happening last night in syria. it happened quickly in a period of 72 hours from the time that we heard from rex tillerson, they started to learn very quickly hour by hour with
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increasing confidence it was assad that was behind it, andrea. indeed it was probably most likely sarin gas, and the presentation of the three options and then two very long intense meetings whe the president, we're told, asked a lot of questions about these options before deciding to do what he did. but all of this playing out in a situation where obviously the president has been under water. 35%, 36% approval ratings and now from the view of the white house has two positive stories to tell. one is the thing he promised so often on the campaign trail, to remake the supreme court, so he has that confirmation, and now he has what they believe has been a successful first forray into international relations. a strike, and the white house is saying from foreign governments as well as people on the hill. >> in terms of the military strike, hans nickels, now you
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have a russianship approaching the mediterranean. it's not that unusual, but it seems like auspicious timing if you will. >> i just stepped out of a briefing here and we're doing a lot of initial assessments. they hit 20 to 26, about two dozen syrian aircraft. the pentagon is making the case for why they no, why they're so certain, that chemical weapons were used, and that b it was assad's forces. they have created a lot of information. they have seen a lot of kris stg around the impact point and that is consistent with chemical presence. they were making the route over to their target. it happened about 6:55 in the morning, andrea, and around 7:00
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they saw reports in the hospital another aspect of why they think it was a chemical weapon is it landed in the mid dle of the street. the idea that it could have hit a factor that had chemicals, doesn't make sense with the accura crater in the middle of the street. and across the street was a hospital. many of the people that were sickened by the attack went to that hospital. four or five minutes later, at separate mission went out and dropped bombs on that hospital. there is a suggestion they may have wanted to cover up the evidence. on april 5th, one day after, that president trump said come to me with options. april 6th, at 4:30, i believe, he approved the strike and it
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hat happened four hours later. >> an interesting time line there, because that is exactly where rex tillerson was giving a very stern warning to russia. that takes me to bill neily. the warning to russia from the secretary of state who is about to go to moscow on tuesday, that with these chemicals -- there was no doubt that it was chemocchem chemicals and these are the chemicals that russia committed to locating, bdisposing, or securing. so we know that he they are comlicit. it was interesting, andrea, listening to senator john mc saying he expected understanding from russia about these air
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strikes. broadly that is what the u.s. has got. yes, there is condemnation of the air strikes, but unexpected not at all. jupt h vladimir putin has not gone on camera. he said it would have negative consequences and the usual phrases that we would expect. yes the russian defense ministry made a swipe at the u.s. saying only 23 of these missiles struck the air base and that the run way wasn't affected at all. more seriously the russians have suspended that deconfliction agreement. but here is the thing that just suspended that agreement. they have not pulled out all together, the kremlin openly saying that it was informed
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beforehand of the strikes. no russian military personnel were killed. so the strike, the dispute, if you like, is highly contained. a lot of statements coming from russia, i think, are designed for domestic consumption. and i don't think this will lead to an irreversible situation into that is the background into which rex tillerson will arrive here in moscow next week. obviously russia had hoped that the trump administration would be a new start, and indeed, the prime minister, was saying today that it didn't take long, only 2 1/2 months for president trump to be sucked back in to what he called the establishment. t neve the less, you know, th will be open to listening to rex tillerson. they are still open to a new
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relationship on a change in the very bad relationship that russia felt they had under president obama. instock home where two people are now killed after a large truck crashed into a busy downtown department store. lucy, what do we know? >> andrea, the search for the driver of that truck is on in stockholm. they're saying it's not clear how many people were killed or injured, but that many were wounded. they said that police are looking for a person of interest. they describe him as having a hoody, a beard, a mustache, and they say it was not a surprise. swedish authorities trained for a very similar scenario just this week and that st why they
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were able to react to quickly. it was about 3:00 p.m. when a large delivery truck flplowed io a home. you see smoke coming from the building there. the u.s. embassy urging citizens to shu down. the swedish prime minister saying that everything indicates this is a terror attack. and now the spokesperson for the beer company that owns the truck telling nbc news it was hijacked earlier in the day. it is an' eerie sense of deja v. we had a christmas attack in germany where a truck was also used, and nice. isis is encouraging these types of attacks and this is a nightmare for security services
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vladimir putin is a thug and a belieully. i hope the message is that the only thing that vladimir putin is the bully and thug understands is that when you commit war crimes and help people commit war crimes, there is a price to pay. nojoining me now to discuss russ russia's president, did vladimir putin get the message, right message? too little? too much? >> the official reaction is negative. russia always stands for sovereignty and international law. but the standard reaction is very predictable. what i think is harder to understand is how big of a deal do they want to make this in terms of their overall expectations about relations
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with president trump. and they hint that they don't want to make it too big. there has been a lot of expectations they were going to start on a new ground with the new administration. as you just said, secretary tillerson is traveling there in a few days. and my sense, reading the tea leaves, the fact that putin himself has not spoken on the record yet, suggest they're still holding their fire and might get things back on track with the united states. >> we heard very aggressive comments, they were, last night, not on camera, from secretary tillerson saying that russia, which had a responsibility from 2013 to locate those chemicals to get rid of them, to be the guarantor of them, is incompetent or come poliplicit.
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i don't know how you would evaluate that, and what you think this administration is doing. we have not heard that from the president himself. >> those were very strong words, i agree, they surprised me. i would tell you honestly, and that agreement was not just an agreement between russia and syria, it was between the international community. i was part of it. i was there when it was being negotiated as ambassador. but putin was the big guarantor. he was a hero. we, the united states, were threatening the use of force and at the g 20 summit meeting in st. petersburg, president obama and president putin met and that is when they agreed to withdraw these weapons as an alternative to the use of force. and putin then was seen as a big hero, obviously the job was not
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completed, or it started up again and we were not paying attention, and in particular the russians were not paying attention. they have a deeper relationship with mr. assad than anyone else. >> speaking of that relationship, is there any sign now that under pressure from the u.s., military and diplomatic, that vladimir putin will waiver at all on his commitment to assad. >> i sat in many meetings with president putin and discussed syria. without question it was the hardest and th least successful piece of our foreign policy. he always dug in to say to respect poverty. they believed if the country fell apart, the country would fall apart and the terrorists would take over. he was never sent mental about mr. sassad. it was just a relationship with him personally as a leader.
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i think his ally there used chemical weapons, but again, a very difficult place, because on one hand he is against regime change. he is never going to allow that. on the other hand, he has been trying to work with the international community to relimb nar relire -- eliminate weapons in syria. >> thank you very much. coming up, the damage assessment, more on the impact of those syrian air strikes, here on andrea mitchell resports. what powers the digital world? communication. like centurylink's broadband network that gives 35,000 fans a cutting edge game experience. or the network that keeps a leading hotel chain's guests connected at work, and at play. or the it platform that powers millions of ecards every day
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it was a small targeted strike. was it big enough to get assad and putin's attention in and winding down a brutal six-year civil war without end? jeremy barb, the former chief of staff, also an msnbc national
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security analyst, and the former supreme alleyed comnder at nato, ahief international security and diplomacy analyst. general -- admiral, let me go first to you. what is your take away of what happened last night? too big? too little? just right? >> i think it is like goldilocks, it was just the right size. a good day for the navy, for the missile. sent a good signal. i think it was not tactically profound or really going to change the facts on the ground, but i think it sent a reasonable strategic message to people in the united states, and that the united states is willing to act quickly and is professional in the execution of military operations.
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secondly to our allies particularly in the gulf, the saudis, and to the turks. also china, north korea, and iran. i think it was well timed and well sized. the key will be what do we do next, and how do we envision it. >> what next. where do we go and do we have any sense that this administrati administration, just getting their naonal security team set and in their plan. >> secretary mattis is a educated guy. this is not a vital national
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security interest. north korea is, iran nuian nuke are. the next step is key. the only thing we could do in the short run that would affect the situation on the ground is to destroy the syrian airforce. then you risk huge consequential responses from the iranian guards. to he has bow la, who knows. it struck me as bizarre he would use the sarin gas in this instance. they're winning on the ground. why you would take this political move is beyond me. these serve agents are frightful to agents, but don't have much
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value. i wonder if he is still in charge of his own military. >> it is perhaps testing this new administration, but how could this happy without russia knowing it. they're on the same base there. that was part of the early warning for the deconflicting hotline if you will to get your personnel out. >> my sense of things is that the russians are deeply embedded in syrian military units around the country, and particularly along that spine from demascus up to idlib. my sense is that russia knew exactly what syria was doing here. i agree it is strange. this was a smart and p proportionate responseo a moral outrage that demands a response from the civilized
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world. the other thing i want to inject is the fight against isis. your viewers should know we have been at war in syria for the last several years. conducting air strikes, conducting drone strikes, special operations activities against isis and raqqa. that is across the yeufrates. we have been conducting airstriair strikes there as well. but the trump team needs to understand that nothing they do compromises or degrades the core national security fight against isis. this is a tricky balance here in the coming weeks as they gauge assad's response. >> they have been saying over and over again that isis is the prime goal, the prime target. they have taken on a lot of other players are. a complicated situation. thank you for helping us sort it out. coming up, was it legal? the war powers issue?
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necessary. senator, i want to ask you first about the suggestion from secretary tillerson last night that russia was either complicit or incompetent. they were supposed to get rid of them or secure them. there is some military analysis, postanalysis, that russia may have been solved. we know they were -- >> they is very, very troubling. the secretary of state was willing to call that out and raise that prospect. that would dramatically escalate the issue. we have known all along russia and iran have been bankrolling and backing the atrocities of president assad against his people. >> it is also interesting that
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we were told in the briefing from state department officials that i'm going to moscow to cover tillerson's visit there. that he will raise issues basically saying future cooperation with this administration depends on if you live up to international norms on you crane and hacking. so he is, secretary tillerson, is confronting vladimir putin if that meeting still takes place, with accusations that president trump has not been willing to acknowledge happened. we were not hearing the acti by hrussia. >> in looking at this sdriek, do you have a sense this national
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security team and the president are beginning to pull together? and do they have a larger vision about where to go next. >> i think you're seeing that. look the need to take action against syria is very, very potent. i voted to take action for their use of chemical weapons in 2013. is is fascinating to watch the dramatic switch. it is a good thing and i give credit to the team for doing it. you know i have a separate issue. even if it is the right thing to do, there is a right order to do it. the 9/11 authorization passed in 2001 was military action against terrorist groups. so while the reason to take this
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step is laudable, and i voted for military action in 2013. as opposed to defending them on an attack. it is a new administration, a good time to sit down and talk about the growing u.s. military presence and combatting activ t activities around the world. >> are you also going to be tough on your own colleagues? because there doesn't seem to be any will in congress to take up this issue. >> in some ways it's more of a -- the bush, obama, and trump administrations maintained, though i might disagree, that
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the authorization approved activity against al qaeda and isil. this is action against the nation of syria. when president obama wanted to take that action he brought it to congress in 2013. and remember what happened when he took action against libya to stop a humanitarian slaughter there? he was rebuked by the house. they said he did that with no authority because he has not conferred with congress. i think they should aplay the same standard. they say w may agree that the me is horrible, but you need to come to congress first. the same for this mission after
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the attack last night. what more are they planning to do? they need to bring it before us and they will find a congress that is willing to be supportive. >> thank you so much, we appreciate you coming on today. coming up, is there a trump doctri doctrine? what message do these air strikes send? senator bob corker will join me next. it is time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. daniella romanetti will never sell online. she wants to connect with customers at her store. using social media she entices people to come in and buy. for more, watch why the your business" on sunday morning on msnbc. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job,
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and now joining us from capitol hill, senate for relations committee chairman bosh cork bob corker. thank you for being with us. tell us your assessment of the syrian strikes. >> very successful. i had a nice conversation with the president last night and told him i was really proud of our nation. and thanked him for taking the steps that he had taken. i felt like they were proportionate. . . they sent the right message, and did an appropriate amount of destruction to the air base there in syria. so i was very happy that he had done it, told him that, and told
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him i was very proud of him also. >> secretary tillerson said yesterday, last night after the strikes, that russia was either complicit or incompetent in not securing these chemicals. the suggestion that is being followed up, that the russians were embedded at that base, may have been involved in the chemical attack. what are the stakes in that's the case? >> yeah, i don't know if they were or not. so therefore responding to -- let me just say this, we've known for years all of the chemical weapons in syria. we knew that in reports we had gotten. so we knew that this was never complete. and so unfortunately what happened happened. >> there are signs that the national security team is pulling together that general mcmaster is beginning to assert control. we've seen the new executive order removing steve bannon from the principal's committee of the
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nsc. your assessment how the committee is working? >> they had a meeting yesterday at 4:00, and laid out the options. the president made the decision. they went ahead and carried it out professionally. i had a conversation yesterday evening with secretary tillerson also, and multiple conversations with members of the nsc this morning. so i do think it's all getting well. we're getting ready to have a runout from dunford and i know many people are asking this. there are additional options, should they be necessary. but this was exactly the kind of operation that i had hoped and was so disappointed didn't happen, back in 2013. i wrote the authorization for the use of force with bob menendez. it wasn't necessary, because it was a ten-hour operation, much
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like what we saw happen last night. so this is long overdue. i felt like the moment in the rose garden the other day where the president, as a new president, finally connected in the way that all of us have who know people, who have been to these refugee camps, who talked to syrians, who -- i felt like it was a connection that was necessary and a real awakening moment for him. and again, i'm glad the steps were taken. no additional steps are planned a t this time. but we'll get a review of where things stand in just a few moments. >> there's been some confusion, partly because of what secretary tillerson said, that regime change might now be on the table. should it be? >> well, i think -- look, assad is not a legitimate leader. he is, in my opinion, a monster. has been for some time.
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you've seen the photographs that ceasar has documented of what he's doing to his own people. he withholds medicines from people, he bombs hospital. this is a person that's not legitimate. how we get there, how we move beyond him, a big part of that is making sure he's held responsible for these crimes against humanity, these war crimes that have taken place. i don't think it's time to get into the details oh of that now, when you have a meeting getting ready to take place with russia with tillerson. i think those conversations will gin. the pressure ought to be on the ruians. if putin wants to be truly a world leader and at the table of world leaders, they should immediately withdraw support for this war criminal. if they have any degree of moral clarity. so we'll see how they react to this in the very near future. >> mr. chairman thank you so much. thanks for being was. we'll be right back.
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and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." next week, we'll be live in moscow monday and tuesday covering secretary of state tillerson's trip to russia. cr next on msnbc. hey, aig. >> all right, andrea mitchell, thank you very much. craig melvin with you on a very busy friday. right now, senators are headed to a classified briefing on
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capitol hill about what happened in syria last night. president trump's first military strike larging a warning with 59 tomahawk missiles. the question now, was it legal without a vote in congress? and what's next? how will syria respond? and we're following the latest on that attack in sweden where a stolen truck was used to slam into pedestrians at a department store. let's start with syria and what's next. our reporters are standing by at the pentagon with the president and on capitol hill. richard engel just arrived moments ago in turkey. but i want to start with senator richard blumenthal who is heading into that classified briefing. what new information are you expecting from the briefing, what questions do you have? >> i have questions about the apparent lack of a comprehens