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deserves time to respond to the report. i tell you, i kind of can't wait the see how he responds. i hope none of it is by text. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again on monday. have an excellent weekend. now it's time for "the last word msnbc live is next. good morning, everyone. i'm dara. it is 7:00 a.m. in the east, 4:00 a.m. out in the west. here is what's happening. air strike fallout. new reports today on the consequences of the u.s. military action in syria. could it lead to a bigger conflict with russia? new reaction from congress on the trump administration's syria policy. the big question from both sides of the aisle, what's next? inside the white house, reports of a power struggle and possible shake up. the administration says it's not true. but what is behind the talk of a clash between chief strategist steve banyan and jared kushner?
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news this morning new, dealing with north korea. and another directly involves the leader of that country, kim jong un. it's an option that might surprise you. we fwin with politics and new reaction from donald trump. instead focussing this morning on his meetings with foreign leaders, including chinese president xi and the future of these diplomatic relations. here is part of his weekly address. >> i have been clear about advocating for the national interests of the united states. something so important to me and so important to our people, one of the reasons, certainly, that i got elected. and i want to ensure that the decisions we make truly serve the safety .security of our citizens. our decisions will be guided by our values .our goals and we will reject the path of inflexible ideology that too
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often leads to unintended consequences. >> and as the trump administration weighs further action in syria, from one of the opponents of the military strike, here is democratic congressman chris murphy on "hardball" last night. >> we do have troops inside syria. that means this might not be the final act when it comes to air strikes against the syrian regime. and if that's the case, i don't trust the ability to trump administration to thread this needle. so i would not have authorized this strike. i would have come to congress first, in large part because that's what the constitution demands. >> meanwhile, chelsea wants proof that his regime is behind the chemical attack. >> if the president assad is found to be responsible after an independent investigation for these horrific chemical weapons attacks, i'll be the first one to denounce him, to call him a war criminal and to call for his prosecution in the international
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criminal court, make sure that those consequences are there. but the key is now with president's reckless military strikes last night, it flew directly this the face of the action that the u.n. was working on at that time to launch an independent investigation, to find out exactly what the facts are, who was involved and who was responsible. so the appropriate consequences could be levied. >> new details this morning on the impact of the air strike in syria. nbc's jay gray is travel, president trump and has the latest from palm beach, florida. >> 24 hours after the u.s. missile strike, new images of the damage at shayrat air base. 60 tomahawk missiles were launched. one firing into the mediterranean. damaging syrian aircraft as well as hangars, fuels and weapons depots. the signal is as important as the actual damage that was done. >> that signal from the administration mark ago shift in strategy, now not only
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questioning, but directly challenging syrian president bashar al assad. >> the moral sustain of the assad regime could no longer go unanswered. >> while secretary of state rex tillerson has called russia complicit or simply incompetent after the chemical attacks. russia's u.n. am was door firing back during today's security council meeting, calling the u.s. military action illegal and ineffective. >> the consequences of this for regional and international stability could be extremely serious. >> syrian president assad has labeled the strikes both reckless and irresponsible while american allies across the globe are applauding the response. >> with u.n. ambassador nikki haley warning, president trump has not rould out further military action. >> we are prepared to do more, but we hope that will not be necessary. >> as president trump remains inside his mar-a-lago resort tonight, said to be in close communication with both his
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military and national security teams. jay gray, nbc news, palm beach, florida. for more international reaction, let's two to nbc's matt bradley in beirut, lebanon, which shares a border with syria. matt, good morning to you.. what is the latest on air strikes to that region? >> thanks, dara. most of the countries in this region have offered wholesome praise for donald trump .this air strike. but it has broken down along factional lines. those countries who are against bashar al assad, and that's really most of the countries in the region, have said that they're -- they basically released statements yesterday of something along the lines of it's about time. they're really ready for a president unlike the obama administration to put skin in the game against sear why and not just against isis and other jihadi elements. but the other countries are actually in favor of bashar al assad, there's been more of a -- well, muted but angry condemnation. worry hearing from, of course, the syrian regime who said they
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called it illegal and basically said donald trump was throwing in his lot with jihadi terrorists and hezbollah, based here in lebanon is an iran-backed shia group. they're the ones who have gained so much by fighting along bashar al assad. they've been saying this was a foolish mistake for donald trump, but, i mean, with all of these different groups, they're saying somethinging that is condemning, but not threatening. so we're seeing a very interesting line here. .there's a lot of reasons for that, but mostly because they want to see whether trump is going to continue to attack the assad regime. we heard nikki haley saying that the u.s. is prepared to do more and countries here want to see whether or not trump will actually follow that up. and let's face it, this was more of a symbolic attack that an actual attack against bashar al assad's real military capability took off from the same base that
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the trump administration attacked early friday. so clearly, bashar al assad hasn't taken a real hit from these attacks and countries throughout the region are wondering whether trump will actually decide to try to dock bashar al assad's military capabilities within syria. they're trying to see whether or not they can really condemn this or whether or not this is as pro forma and symbolic of a move as it looks. >> matt, thank you. joining me now is jack jacobs, retired military colonel and analyst. what is your perspective from what you've learned? >> well, there were several objectives. one is to convince bashar al assad not to use chemical weapons again. i think that was successful.
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second, the domestic political component to that, any action has one, weather you're in a free country on or one that's not so fro to demonstrate to the local population that you're going to do what you say you're twog to do and you'll be able to act if you need to act and third, i think it was a not so subtle message to president xi before he left that the we think that if things are really important, we are going to act and we're going to take whatever risk we think we need to to act. we need each other in order to get north korea under control. >> we heard had congresswoman from hawaii saying the eggs ka lagz is short sighted and will lead to more dead civilians, more refugees, the strengthing on al qaeda and other terrorists and possible nuclear war between the united states and russia. >> no, i don't think so. the first is russia's interest in syria. they don't care about assad.
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they care about interest, control over, control in syria and they want more and more ports. they don't care about assad. the second thing she misunderstands is that she conflates all weapons. chemical weapons are fundamentally different than conventional weapons. and i think -- .i think most people think it was very, very important to draw that line and to act on it. this is not just another weapon and there's been an argument that we should have acted a long time ago during the other times that syria used chemical weapons. so i think she's completely wrong. and journal jacobs, yesterday russia suspended an agreement with the u.s. the u.s. has hundreds of troops on the ground in raqqa, not far away from russian troops. what are your concerns in that scenario? >> well, we're still talking to them. they've suspend today agreement for the operationally we're still talking to them.
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but i think it's -- i think it's a good criticism that we should be concerned about people on the ground. wove got probably several thousand americans on the ground. they're always at risk in abdomen environment where there are lots of moving parts, lots of people fighting each other and we don't have any clear strat xwi. i think it's a valid criticism that we need to start to put together a genuine strategy before we are less concerned about our trops on the ground. >> and let's talk about that strategy because an adviser to president assad accused the u.s. of giving a helping hand to terrorists. has the strike shifted the focus away from the fight against isis? >> well, we can multi task. but i think that's legitimate criticism. we haven't had a strategy to do whatever it is we decided to do because we haven't yet decided what it is we actually want to accomplish there. it's interesting that the guys in charge of all this is general mcmaster.
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as the national security adviser, his job is to structure a strategy. and that's why he's in that job. and i believe that he's going to be very much encouraged by what's taking place in order to make sure that he does structure a strategy and come up with something that we possibly can achieve and not alone, either, but with other multi national actors in the region. >> journal jack jacobs, always great to have you. >> thank you. >> thank you. just ahead, the growing divide in the west wing with jared kushner's star rising, are steve bannen's days numbered? who's with me? we're like a basketball team here at ally. if a basketball team had over 7... i'm in. 7,000 players. our plays are a little unorthodox. but to beat the big boys, you need smarter ways to save people money. we know what you want from a financial company and we'll stop at... nothing to make sure you get it. one, two... and we mean nothing.
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new fall yoit from the air strikes in syria. richard angle is in turkey. >> there is no indication that russia is going to respond militarily to this strike, but russia is signaling very strongly that it does not want the u.s. to do this between, that it does not want to see any more attacks on its ally, the syrian regime of bashar al assad. .it's signaling that by sending a warship to the mediciterranea and the russian prime minister saying that because of this strike, washington and moscow are just one step away from a conflict. >> new images from russia tv of the syrian base attacked on orders from president trump. they show little destruction. russia apparently trying to down play the impact of the strikes. but the u.s. military late today releasing these photos, showing significant damage to the base
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the u.s. says the syrian regime used to launch this week's deadly chemical attack. at 7:40 p.m., two navy destroyers in the mediterranean launched 60 cruise missiles. one missile misfired into the sea. the rest, direct hits, destroying 20 syrian aircraft, reinforced hangars, fuel and weapons depots. the u.s. says it avoided targeting chemical weapons on the base to prevent disbursing tox yips. syrian president bashar al assad called the attacks -- >> the more serious dispute now is with syria's backer, russia. the u.s. military says it informed moscow before the strikes to avoid russian casualties on the base. now the u.s. military is investigating if russia was complicit in the chemical attack or merely failed to stop it.
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a war of words today at the u.n. security council. >> the united states took a very measured step last night. we are prepared to do more. but we hope that will not be necessary. >> translator: we describe attack as a flagrant violationing of international law and an act of afwregz. aggression. >> putin spokesman called this attack a blow. this was not about redefining a relationship with syria or russia, but sending a message. >> i think they've demonstrated forcefulness to the international community. the question is, you know, the other side gets a vote. what will the iranian revolutionary guards do? hezbollah militias and for that matter assad himself. >> the u.s. strike, which was very limited, in no way is going
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to stop the russian military or the syrian military from attacking rebel-held areas in syria. in fact, a human rights group says that the same base that the u.s. struck has already been used to launch syrian jets. back to you. >> richard engle reporting live from turkey, thank you, richard, so much. now we turn to florida and president trump in a new address in a week chock-full of moves including leaders from egypt, jordan and china. >> in our dealings with other nations, our conversations have been candid, open and grounded in mutual respect. it in matters both economic and military, we understand that a strong america is in the best interests of the world. that is why it is so important that as we strengthen international partnerships, we ensure these partnerships deliver real results for americans and the american people. >> today, the president is at his weekend retreat in florida
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and so is nbc's kelly o'donnell who is joining us now. kelly, good morning. what kind of feedback is the president getting on these air strikes from the international community? >> well, dara, this is one of the first opportunities where president trump has been tested on the world stage amid a week of exposure on the world stage with the chinese visit and reaction from allies has been favorable. and that was something that we're told that president trump himself was curious about when talking with his own aides .top officials. wanting to know how would the world receive this decision. of course, the timeline between the original chemical attacks by the syrian regime and the execution of this limited strike on the air strip there was very short. on a global stage in a matter of just a couple of days, that is a very quick set of actions. and so there was high risk for president trump in this. but because of the protracted events in syria and world concern about what to do, not only about assad's conduct, but
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then the refugee crisis, this is really a test for president trump. we now know, of course, that there is no imminent expectation of a follow-up attack with the exception of the u.s. reserving the right to do that. and we saw the u.n. ambassador nikki haley talked about the possibility of additional strikes should there be more action from assad or others. so as president trump is sort of taking the temperature of his colleagues around the world, he is getting some positive feedback. included in that is we are told not from the u.s. side, but from the sawedy side that the president spoke with the saudi king who, of course, is sunni, which is of great concern to definitely the relationship between saudi arabia and is syria. there's a deep rivalry there and a counterweight to the shia government in iran. so for president trump to have this call with the syrian king to talk about this issue, perhaps to talk about strat by or reassurance, we don't know any of the details, but the saudi side is talking about this as well as vice president pence
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talking to iraqi, prime minister abadhi, not told to us by the u.s. government, but by the iraqi phone call that that call took place. >> thanks, kelly. now, an arrest made in that deadly trump rampage in the swede yirn capital of stockholm after a massive manhunt. we have the late details, ahead. you're going to be hanging out in here. so if you need anything, text me. do you play? ♪ ♪
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attack. in what sweden's prime minister calls a terrorist act. this morning, swedish media reports explosives were found in the truck, but that hasn't been confirmed by nbc news. a police spokesperson tells us they have, quote, high suspicion the suspect arrested on terror charges is the driver. last night, police released ims of a person of interest, but would not confirm his identity or whether he is the man that was arrested. and this is from the scene from stockholm this morning where a makeshift memorial has popped up at the site of the crash to honor the victims. tensions between russia and the u.s. are escalating over thursday's strike on a syrian air base. russia described the u.s. strike as an aggression against a sovereign country. .the tough talk will not keep secretary of state rex tillerson from going ahead with his planned visit to moss on cow next week. bill kenealy is in moscow for us this morning. bill, with about morning to you. what kind of reception can the secretary expect there?
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>> yeah, good morning, dara. certainly mott the kind of reception he expected maybe a week ago. they do know rex tillerson here, indeed, he was, of course, the recipient of one of russia's highest honors, personally from president putin. so they may cut him a little bit more slack than they would other secretaries of state. on the other hand, they will want to show their opposition to u.s. air strikes. and for him, well, he's walking a very fine line between obviously backing those air strikes, those missile strikes, but also trying to achieve one of the central goals of president trump's foreign policy, which was better relations with russia. so difficult for him, too. and remember, he's being pretty tough with russia, saying in the last few days that russia was either complicit in syria's use of chemical weapons or incompetent. remember, he's america's top
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diplomate, but other american diplomates, notably nikki haley, the u.s. ambassador at the u.n. have been pretty tough with russia, just yesterday trading action ewe sayings about an emergency meeting council in new york with the russian ambassador. let's take a listen to a couple of those exchanges. >> every time assad has crossed the line of human decency, russia has stood beside him. the united states took a very measured step last night. we are prepared to do more. but we hope that will mott be necessary. >> we described that attack as a flagrant violation of international law and an act of aggression. we strongly condemn the illegitimate actions by the u.s. >> well, rex tillerson will be coming from a meeting of the g7 in italy and he will want to bring a you united message here to moscow from that meeting.
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but i think the problem for him and for president trump is what exactly comes next? we had a missile strike that lasted minutes. the united states is now more deeply involved in a war that's lasted six years. the missile strike was a tactic. but what about the strategy? what is the united states aim? what is it going to do to try to stop this war? what is its attitude to president assad? will it push even more aggressively thou for his removal? so we've had the tactic, but what is the strategy. that's one of the questions rex tillerson will be asked here in moscow. dara. >> is and, bill, real quick, is putin threatening any action against the u.s. because of the air strikes? >> it is -- sorry, i couldn't hear you. is putin contemplating action against the united states? >> yes. >> no. i think there is a russian warship which has gone from the
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black sea to the eastern mediterranean and it is now off syria. the admiral gregorovich. it is armed with cruise missiles. but i don't think the pentagon crucially sees that as any kind of a threat and i don't think anyone at the pentagon is expecting russia to any any kind of military action. but look, vladimir putin acts in asymmetric ways pop so another area that you might want to look out for is anything that might happen in eastern ukraine. there could be another sudden disclosure of e-mails from wikileaks. anything is possible because russia will want in some way to hit back after the american missile strike. dara. >> bill kenealy reporting live for us from moscow. thank you so much, bill. also on the global front, the white house is calling the meeting between president trump and china's president xi a success, saying progress was made on issues including trade
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and north korea yn aggression. but halfway through the visit, another issue took center stage as president trump personally informed president xi that air strikes in syria were under way. joining me now is gordonon chang columnist for "the bailey beast." he's the author of nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world. let's start with secretary of state rex tillerson because he said president xi responded when children are being killed. how do you think that is being interpreted? >> tillerson, who is a diplomate, tried to smooth things over. but the chinese that trump struck a chinese friend and an important chinese friend xi jinping was in florida. i think that cuts xi jinping down to size. when he gets back to china, i think some heads are going to roll because the chinese owned
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this meeting. they're with the ones that wanted it so early in the trump administration and i think this might not have worked out because it made xi look weak on the world stage. >> you said possibly heads are going to roll, but does the decision to launch air strikes in syria raise pressure on china to reign in korean aggression? >> i absolutely think so because the warnings that the trump administration gave to north korea on tuesday, the administration gave to syria on the following day. and so kim jong un, the ruler of north korea, probably has understood that and we've got to remember that his father, kim jong il, disappeared for six weeks during the 2003 iraq war. he was so concerned about that. i think china understands this dynamic and, therefore, there is going to be a difference in relations going forward. it may not be enough for us, but nonetheless, there will be a change in beijing. >> gordon, nbc news is saying president trump was briefed on
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options dealing with north korea that include putting nukes in south korea or killing kim jong un according to top military and intelligence officials. what is the likelihood that the u.s. would go down with either of this is pats? >> i don't think either are likely.. there have been reports promoted by south koreans about these decapitation strikes. we're not going to do that because, first of all, there are 25 million south koreans that live within 30 miles of the demilitarized zone. north korea with the world's fourth largest army is further deployed. the casualties on the korean peninsula would be horrific. we're not going to do anything militarily unless we absolutely, absolutely have to do so. and u.s. policy has not been to put tactical nukes outside in countries like this. george h.w. bush withdrew them for some very good reasons. we're tot going to put them back. >> north korean defector tea young ho spoke this week about
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kim jong un's ready ps to conduct a nuclear strike. let's take a look. >> once he sees that there is any kind of sign of, you know, kind of attack, of imminent threat from america, then he would, you happen, use his nuclear weapons. >> is that really all it would take at this point, signs of a threat from america? >> i don't think so. you know, kim jong un understands that if he were to use nukes, that would be all over for not only north korea but the kim regime and everything else that he holds dear. however, kim jong un probably has a low threshold of risk note now because his regime is a little unshaky. we have seen signs of instability starting in january and going through february. i think that essentially he could surprise us like putin could surprise us.
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but then the less, he's not going to use his most destructive weapons until he absolutely believes that he's going to die, anyway. >> and one last question. if the u.s. doesn't make any threats or provocations, do you think it's just a matter of time until north korea launch aes strike against the u.s.? >> no, i don't think so. i think it's very possible that the regime itself could fall apart. there are all sorts of other scenarios that could take place. we have to be very concerned about what jim congress union would do because he doesn't think like we do and he views the world in such different terms. but nonetheless, we can detemperature him, but we have to be strong. and sometimes we have let dealternativance slip. >> gordan chang, thanks so much for being here. just ahead, president trump is taking hits from long time loyalists over the decision to attack sear where a. and coming up, new reports the president is considering replacing reince priebus.
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i think it was an important decision. i think it was the right decision. it's not going to solve the syrian crisis. >> this was a modest little effort compared to what could have been done. >> i think what he did was proportional. i think it doesn't change the chess board. >> this sent a signal to the syrians and the russians and the chinese to the iranians and to everyone in the region that we're not disengaging. we're even more engaged than ever before. >> even if there is a right thing to do, there is a right order to do it. the 9/11 authorization that was passed after 2001 is not about military action against a state. >> a cross-section of reaction following thursday's u.s. strike on an air base in response to syria's chemical weapons attack. joining me now, joe watkins, republican strategist and white
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house aide to president george h.w. bush, rike tyler, msnbc political analyst and zalena maxwell, now the director of progressive programming for sirius/xm. great to have you three here this morning. >> good morning. >> let's start with you. what do you think that president trump's ultimate goal was here? >> i think his ultimate goal was to send a message and to send a message, a strong message saying that he wasn't going to tolerate this, that syria had, indeed, crossed that red line and he had to do something about it. i think it was a very measured message and i think it was the right message. the right kind of response. and at the end of the day, you want to minimize any potential loss of life. you don't certainly want innocent people to die. that the united states at least under this president is not going to tolerate this kind of
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action. >> how tough a sell is this for his supporters who voted for trump because of his america first violationist message? >> that the. he risked losing them and then part of that population has made up of conspiracy kooks. you have breitbart and info wars blow up about it. that is a base that helped donald trump win. but he did shift. he went from seemingly isolationist to internationalist almost overnight. and you couple that with the way that he is speaking with the chinese with president xi. tough talk about china seemed not to be president in mar-a-lago. so it's interesting that his base, the america first base. >> i want to ask you on the wheel how the democrats are reacting on this military strike by the president and how should
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they react to this? >> well, i disagree with the democrats that came out in support of this strike. personally, i think that this was the wrong thing to do. it's not that the chemical attack wasn't horrific. we with all saw those images and were very moved by them. i just don't know what the ultimate objective is when you do something this targeted and small and it also shows to me that there isn't thoughtful deliberation when it comes to these kinds of serious decisions by the president and that actually was auto theme during the campaign. this could go to back up that particular argument. i think democrats need to continue to talk about the necessity for congressional authorization. that i agree with. i think that congress should be more involved in decisions when it comes to military action. obviously. as the constitution requires. >> we heard various opinions on
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this at the top before we started. so, joe, about what senator tim kaine's complaint was, the lack of authorization from congress, do you think the president had clear authority to attack syria? >> i think he did. i think presidents have the capacity and authorization to make limited one-time strikes when needed, when it's in the best interests of the united states. i think president clinton exercised that, president reagan exercised that. i think president trump exercised that option. i think it was clearly within his right and the authorization to do such. i think if there's a more prolonged encouragement or dealings with -- military dealings with syria, then he would need to go to the coming approval from congress. from the standpoint of a one-time strike, i think the president has the authored to do that. >> and, rick, we just spoke about president trump shifting with a little bit here. so after the strike, he was
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speaking about the children who were killed and they are horrific images, but isn't this at odds with his policy on refugees? he's been trying to push that executive order for the refugee ban. >> some would argue that. i wouldn't argue that. i think donald trump's public pronouncelities about refugees is that we don't want to bring people into the country who might be dangerous to the country. but what i don't understand is donald trump seemed to have changed his opinion about bashar al assad after these chemical attacks, but i'm confused about what it is he didn't understand about assad before the attacks. because he had clearly used chemical weapons against his people before, he was clearly bombing hospitals, indiscriminately killing the incident. but look, i think that it's -- i think that this response -- i would disagree a little bit with joe in that it was a measured response.. i think it was actually a more balanced response. remember, they preserve the runways at this air base and they warned the russians to get
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their -- they warned the russians they were going to do this and the russians got their planes out of there so the russians weren't affected by this at all. and i have to assume the russians want to continue to use that air base, degraded as it is, because they didn't want to have isis come in and fill a void. so i think the united states here is carefully balanced as opposed to limited strike. although 60 tomahawk missile sess roughly the equivalency to almost the entire gdp of syria before this war. >> and now that these used chemical weapons, president assad used the chemical weapons under the trump administration, zerlena, do you think we'll see a softening of his policy on the syrian refugees after this? >> well, i don't know because before he came into office in 2013, there's a flurry of tweets that have been retweeted this week where he was condemning action in syria, even at the time when president obama was president and seeking authorization from congress.
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he even talked about the president's poll numbers being down and that's why he would authorize a military strike. so i think it's all very curious in the current political context and it's certainly concerning. the mu man tearan crisis in syria is nothing new. it is not a new topic. we've been talking about this for many, many years and going back to the previous administration. and so it's clear that the previous chemical attacks inflicted on the syrian people did not make donald trump change his opinion of intervention before, so what's the difference? why is he doing this right now? >> we have much more to talk about. next we'll talk about fighting in the west wing between president trump's top two aides. we've done well in life, with help from our advisor, we made it through many market swings. sure we could travel, take it easy...
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west wing. in the new york times, in battle for trump's heart and mind. it is bannon and kushner. they hold sit down in attempt to bury the hatchet. and bannon and reince priebus may be out as part of the white house shake up. here to sort it out is joe, rick and zerlina. 79 days in office, rick, the white house calls the narrative of a dysfunctional administration completely false. what's really happening here? >> it is hard to know. you get a lot of different stories. i do think there's naturally splits. it is up to the leadership to keep in charge. one problem with the administration is always been we don't know who is in charge. jared kushner, i'm sure is a bright ambitious person, but really seemingly in charge of the world and doesn't have any requisite experience to take on
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the portfolio he has taken on. bannon, clearly, i think, was at odds with the national security council. i assume mcmaster did not like what he was advocating. he was taken out. that is a diminishment and power play that the president is listening to other minds. >> the issues are dividing bannon and kushner which are health care. the fallout of the immigration bans and whether to intervene in the syrian civil war. joe, you worked at the white house in the first president bushme bush. demade bate is expected behind scenes. are things as bad as they seem? >> this happens all the time in the white house. i talked about this months ago on msnbc before it started. you always have that challenge where members will be jockeying for proximity of the president's ear. jared kushner has an advantage. he is the son-in-law of the
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united states. he is not likely to ever be dismissed. he may be at some point less influential than he is today, but that is not likely to happen. in any battle, as talented as steve bannon is, he will lose to jared kushner. my oldest daughter worked in the white house for a president. i watched these battles for a long time. i just think that although steve bannon is a talented guy, you know, it will be tough for him to best jared kushner. >> and zerlina, i want to ask you about neil gorsuch. he becomes a justice on monday when he takes the oath. is the he right person for the filibuster? >> yes. merrick garland spent a year without a hearing. he is a moderate justice. essentially the supreme court seat is stolen by the republicans because of partisanship at the end of obama's term.
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i really miss the no drama obama white house. i remember that saying because that certainly when you have a serious issues here domestically and the world, you want the president and advisers making responsible choices and thoughtful deliberation. i don't see that so far in this white house. all i see in terms of the leaks and stories of behind the scenes is that people like joe said, jockeying for proximity to the president. proximity to power. i don't know that serves the american people as opposed to serving their desire to be closer to all of the power centers and decision making the president does. >> certainly creating distracti distractions. joe, devin nunes recusing himself from the russian probe into the election. is the house investigation less biassed now? >> well, these house
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investigations are what they are. often times it is an opportunity for members of the committee to really shine politically, obviously. your star shines more brightly with the national press. it helps in home district and nationally if you have a national ambition. that being said, this is a setback for devin nunes to have to step aside from the house investigation. he is doing the right thing. he is doing what is in the best interest of americans. >> zerlina, will this is a the democrats? >> no. they put trey gowdy in charge of the investigation. he is the head of the benghazi investigation and leaking a number of things that were damaging to hillary clinton. i think the democrats are skeptical in the house, the investigation will be bipartisan. i think we have more faith in the senate investigation. i also think we need a special
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prosecutor and independent committee set up so we can truly have faith when they look into what happened in terms of the russian intervention, we can get to the bottom. >> zerlina maxwell and rick tyler and joe watkins. thank you. i'm dara brown. thank you for watching. and the crisis in north korea. how did it play out with the summit with the chinese leader? thomas roberts takes up our coverage next. (vo) introducing
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♪ ♪ take on the mainstream. introducing nissan's new midnight edition. ♪ hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts at the world headquarters in new york. day 79 of the trump administration. we have more about the air strike fallout. new reports and predictions today on the consequences of the u.s. military action in syria. could it lead to a bigger conflict with russia? >> so
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