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lines being drawn inside trump's inner circle. the battle for power between kushner, priebus and bannon. there's new word that trump stepped in to calm tensions over the west wing. police hunting for a suspect who allegedly stole a number o guns and mailed president trump an anti-government manifesto. thers much more we'll dive into. breaking news overnight. attacks on palm sunday. powerful blasts taking place at two churches leaving more than three dozen killed and 200 wounded in egypt. the other big story we're following involving the u.s. navy where a strike group including aircraft carrier carl vincent is heading to the korean peninsula. the ships will provide a show of presence in that region. now since march north korea has twice carried out ballistic missile tests in defiance of u.n. resolutions.

nbc's janice fryer joins us. let's talk about the allies in this region. are they on board and are they taking into consideration how this might be affected and interpreted? >> the carl vincent carrier strike group left port in australia but was redeployed to the western pacific because of the tension that has been mounting on the korean peninsula. this is going to bump up anxiety particularly in pyongyang after trump's strike on syria that was widely interpreted as a message to north korea that the u.s. is willing to use force. now the overwhelming concern of any strike on north korea is, of scours, its ability to counter attack. strategically that's how it differs from syria. north korea has missiles pointed here at seoul. this is a city of 10 million people. as well there are tens of thousands of u.s. troops based in the region.

it is very cautious treading right now. the carl vincent, there's no time line on how long it's going to stay in the region. it was just here last month for joint military drills but the u.s. military is saying the presence is necessary and it's, of course, being welcomed by u.s. allies. >> janice, when we talk about u.s. allies, specifically china, the president having a meeting at mar-a-lago with president xi, do we think president trump may have tipped his hand with what is happening with the movement of the "carl vincent"? >> there are a lot of dynamics at hand. he did have phone calls about the syria strikes and as well the situation with north korea, but we can't neglect the role of china here. xi jinping of course was dining with president trump at the time and it was also widely seen as a message to china that some sort of leverage to have china put more pressure on the regime in pyongyang to halt its nuclear

programs. what's unclear is the extent to which china can or is willing to do anything. the leadership has long feared putting too much pressure on north korea fearing that if there's a collapse, it will trigger a waive of refugees and eventually reunification of north and south korea leaving tens of thousands of u.s. troops at china's border. so there is caution on all sides here amid speculation for weeks now that kim jong-un is readying another nuclear test. thomas? >> time will tell. nbc's janice mccabe-frayer, thank you. we'll discuss the latest show of force with the former u.s. ambassador to china coming up next. we have new reaction from the trump administration and where it stands on the fate of president bashar al assad. some of the strongest language being delivered by the ambassador to the u.n., nikki

haley. >> what we're trying to do is obviously defeat isis. secondly, we don't see a peaceful syria with assad in there. thirdly, get the iranian influence out and finally move towards a political solution. there is not any sort of option where political solution is going to happen with assad at the head of theregime. regime change is something we think is going to happen because all of the parties are going to see that assad is not the leader that needs to be taking place for syria. >> we want to go to west palm beach, florida, with hallie jackson. this is a big development with ambassador nikki halley. is the trump team on the same page? >> reporter: seems to be. the secretary of state now this morning is wheels up headed over to italy for part of that overseas trip that will of course include the first face to face with his russian counterpart. new questions about that russian relationship and on the north korean side, you have the

associated press reporting they're calling the strike in syria unacceptable, essentially unpardonable is the direct wording. what does this mean? for president trump here at palm beach in mar-a-lago, it's foreign affairs taking center stage. far from mar-a-lago where the president's spending a sunny weekend, an ominous signal in the mediterranean. this russian warship with its own cruise missiles at the ready. vladimir putin sending a strong message to the u.s. over a syrian strike. the u.s. is not worried about retaliation. >> i see there is no reason for retaliation sings the russians were not targeted. >> reporter: tillerson was warned that this plays into their hand. the president notifies congress of his rationale behind the military action to protect vital national security and foreign policy interests. still, some critics want more

about the long-term strategy of syria, the president's strike a departure from his america first foreign policy. >> america first, remember that. >> reporter: the move triggering backlash from his base but not from all of his supporters. >> i know trump, like you said, said america first, but sometimes that doesn't always work out. >> reporter: steve bannon, the architect of that populus policy now seems to be quashing rumors that he's getting ready to be ousted. they saban nonain't going anywhere viewing himself as a protector of the president's campaign promises fighting what he describes as the west wing democrats including jared kushner but bannon, kushner and reince priebus look to be putting the back fighting behind them holding an hour long meeting friday afternoon according to sources familiar to, quote, bury the hatchett or at least show the president they're trying. donald trump apparently pleased with where things ended up.

and sources say that reince priebus in that meeting told the other advisors, listen, we've got to work this out and if you can't work it out, you've got to move on. the idea being according to the sources telling us from the chief of staff's comments, we've had a great week, he said, with the supreme court nomination, for example, getting confirmed in the senate. that's what we should be talking about, thomas, not who's up, who's down? >> isthat what they're tacklg this week? gorsuch being sworn in on monday? >> reporter: that's the big headline tomorrow. any other week this would be our number one story. the fact that there will be a new sitting supreme court justice on the court making it nine members for the first time in months. this is something that is going to be a major headline. you will see this swearing in happening at the rose garden tomorrow morning. this is something that was foundational not just for president trump on the campaign trail but frankly for a lot of republican candidates talking about the need to put somebody

on the supreme court they say that would uphold the law in a constitutional way, read that as a conservative way. this was something that people say may have swung the election for a lot of folks. being on the campaign trail it's something you heard again and again. people saying, lis zwren, you have the supreme court nominee. we want to pick a republican in order to replace this seat that was left vacant when an tow then scalia died. >> now we have the first big piece of the trump legacy that's going to be installed. >> reporter: yeah, generational. >> hallie jackson, great to see you. and hardest working woman. more now on the american ships moving towards the korean peninsula. i want to bring in max bachus. good to have you with me. what do you make of this move? is it merely symbolic? >> i think it's important. as kim jong-un develops his missile and nuclear capability

to a greater varying degree, the clock is ticking getting closer to the movement of truth here. i've been in a lot of meetings with president obama, secretary kerry. i myself have urged china to do much more on north korea. they haven't done much. they've participated in a few security council actions. i believe any solutions -- we need a solution very much depending on china. i think the strike force going through the area has more pressures, greater stigma on china. we view china better get with the program and help us out, find a solution because we cannot go into north korea unilateral unilaterally. it will not work. the targets are hard to hit. almost impossible. millions of people will die. the real solution here is much more pressure on china so that china cuts the deal with us to get kim jong-un to do what he should be doing.

>> sir, do you think with president trump having said and expressed a desire to go it alone against north korea before his meeting with china's president. do you think the president would have informed xi about this military move during their meeting this week? >> i don't know. he likes to be unpredictable, trump. he likes not to telegraph his views and his thoughts, that's the way he acts. he's very emotional. he's very instinctive. that helps in a sense. it shows -- it keeps the other countries on their toews. on t -- toes. on the other hand, it undermines predictability. if there's anything china likes is predictability. they face a president like trump, that throws them off. that could have some benefit here. i don't know. in my experience the real solution here is hard work. you've got to sit down, slog it out, talk to the other country, find some commonality here because military option almost

in every instance is not a good idea. work in syria. syria's easy. my god, send a couple of cruise missiles onto the deck is easy. north korea is more difficult. we need to work hard to negoate. >> during the campaign donald trump didn't hold any punches bad mouthing china for currency manipulations, taking american jobs and doing bad trade deals in all. from the optics of it, what do you make of this meeting with china's president? do you think it's a success for the trump team? >> i think it's a good preliminary meeting. i've been to a lot of these summi summits. to be hop nest, not a lot happens. this looks to be one that's very similar. in certain sense china seems to have come out ahead. they don't want the boat rocked. they did agree to put together this 100 day review. we'll see where that goes. in my experience with the chinese, they're good people. we've got to work with them.

it's the most important bilateral relationship but there's a lot of talk sometimes. you don't necessarily walk the walk. it takes a lot of hard, resistant work. i was over there, so challenged with china and developed what i called my three ps in working with china. that is you've got to be patient, you've got to be positive but you've got to be perfect sis accident. stick with it and you start to get results. >> three ps can apply to a lot of things in life right now as we think about that. let's talk about the patience, positivity, persistence needed based on what our nbc team has reported over the weekend about them presenting trump with a lot of different options including putting nukes all the way to assassinating kim jong-un. does any of that sound like it has merit? >> they -- the nsd is doing what it should, that is, put

absolutely everything on the table. and i also tell the president xi, everything is on the table. having said that, putting nukes in the area i think is not a good idea. i think it could be disastrous. our goal here is to reduce nuclear bombs in the world, not add more. second, if they're used, as we know a catastrophe is going to be. third, kim jong-un doesn't believe it. he knows we'll never use nukes in that area. that further threatens china. china will be apoplectic if we do that. china will say that's a threat to china. it's not a good idea. the others, you know, trying to take him out, that makes good movies. that's good novels but this is north korea. it's very -- this is not any other country. this is not afghanistan, this is not iraq, iran, this is not where our special forces can move very freely. you cannot move very freely in north korea.

and then the things we can do unilaterally, cyber warfare, try to disable some of his missiles, call them left of launch. that's a possibility. we clearly have to step up the pressure, but i would like very much to include china because that would be a more durable solution. >> what do we think of th asymmetric strategies to get there. >> china is the second largest economy in the world. china is very important to the united states. we have about $560 billion worth of trade u.s. to china. we need each other and the u.n. we need each other in lots of parts of the world with global health, for example. we need each other. second, they're there. they're in asia. if they don't like what we're doing, there are an infinite number of ways that china can cause a lot of problems. working with china. however, you've got to push

china. china will not do much on its own altruistically. they've got to be pushed. save face. do that like telling china what the bottom lines are, tell them privately. tell them we're going to act if they cross the bottom lines and i think they will tend to pick up, listen up, back down a little bit. there's a little bit of bullying in china. bullies tend to back down. china is right next door to korea and china's very worried about instability on the peninsula, that is, if there is a regime change, what's going to happen next in china's view. china does not want a reunified peninsula where the u.s. military is probably present and south korea is in control. >> former ambassador to china, thank you. ambassador dbacus. now we're going to move onto the other breaking news. the two church bombings in egypt and an islamic group is taking

credit. the first bombing happening in a church in cairo. the church packed with worshippers. we want to warn you that the photos are graphic. ♪ ♪ >> joining us now with the very latest from london. lucy, we have been covering this first attack and then not there shortly after a second deadly attack happened. what do we know? >> reporter: thomas, good morning. that video obviously difficult to watch. this was supposed to be a day of celebration, the sunday before easter taking off holy week. it sent shock, anguish and disbelief across egypt over the brazen daylight attacks. isis claiming responsibility for both, the earlier one targeting a christian church in the delta

city of tanta. 50 miles north of cairo. roughly 9:30 a.m. 26 people were killed, injuring dozens. horrific footage emergg on social media of the after math. showing blood stained pews, people screaming. explosive devices were planted inside the church. the second blast was outside of saint marks church in alexandria. 11 people are known to be killed, 35 wounded. we are getting some details from our freelancer on the scene who said the blast was so strong that at least 15 nearby shops were damaged. it took place as people were leaving the church. the attacker was apparently stopped at a checkpoint by a police officer according to our freelancer and that appears to when he detonated the device.

this could have been worse had he made it deeper into the crowd. they've been targeted by isis as well as other islamist groups. this is the worst to date. thomas, today's attack coming weeks before pope francis was due to visit the country. the pope this morning condemning the violence saying that he's praying for the victims. >> keeping us posted out of london. lucy, we'll talk again shortly. thank you. we turn our attention to what was taking place through the week. these headlines about tension in the west wing. all about steve bannon. did president trump diffuse the conflict between his family and his inner circle? that's next. i have asthm..

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we've got the new reports today on the efforts to calm the feud within the white house where president trump's chief

strategist, steve bannon, and son-in-law have been clashing, that son-in-law being jared kushner. that's word from a number of news sources and denied by the white house. joining me is jonathan swan from axios.com. your latest article how trump diffused west wing feud for now. let's dive into that because there's been so much i guess interest in the enigma of these three figures, not only just kushner and bannon but reince priebus involved. explain the rub or where they went sideways. >> well, there was always a rub between steve bannon and gary cohen, who is donald trump's top economic adviser, and that was really a matter of policy. steve bannon is an ar dadant nationalist and cohen is a liberal democrat and has much more of a globalist perspective.

that's the worst word you can use in steve bannon's lexicon. the rift with jared was more unexpected because steve bannon actually built quite a strong relationship with both jared and ivanka throughout the campaign and some of his allies were kind of taken by surpris in thet couple of weeks. understanding the way it's been described to me is that it was as much about personality and steve bannon's kind of burn it down, blow it up style as it was about policy. obviously jared kushner is much more liberal than steve bannon, but this has as much to do with personality as substance. >> gary cohen his name floated around potentially to replace reince priebus if he were to lose his gig as chief of staff for the white house. also in your reporting this week bannon saying to associates, i love a gun fight. how much of this was getting the president's attention who likes chaos around him but how much of

it becomes a distraction to actually getting things done if these three important figures or more are not being able to align on the same page to move forward in an agenda that seems to show trump doing something constructively for the company. >> you make a point. first off, the chief of staff which is rumored of instability going on for weeks now, that's a function of donald trump who talks to a lot of people on the outside sounding people out about that. how's ryans going? what do you think i should do? that, of course, gets people talking. now jared has also been doing a little bit of that. however, with all of that being said, i still think for the moment based on what happened this week there is this little bit of stability now, a cease-fire, if you will, and it seems to me that reince priebus and steve bannon at least for the immediate short term are probably secure in their jobs. donald trump on thursday

afternoon at mar-a-lago said to jared and to steve bannon, knock it off. you guys are close. you need to work it out. and on friday late afternoon steve bannon, reince priebus, jared and ivanka stepped out together and had a meeting about the agenda. that was really the president saying, listen, you guys, you need to work together. it seems at least from my sources at the senior level of the white house this was a signal that he's not going to at least in this sort of next week or two make some dramatic change to his top staff. >> jonathan, do you think there is a resentment because blood is thicker than water and jared kushner and ivanka are always going to come out on top whoever they go up against? >> oh, there's absolutely resentment but that goes across -- that's not confined to any part of the white house. there he is a lot of sniping about, you know, they call some of them prince jared and the sort of entitled -- you know, there's sniping that you hear

constantly from people in the white house as you would imagine. a lot of it stems from jealousy, some of it's self-serving. jared, he's solving middle east peace and he's reorganizing the government. what can't he do? that's the refrain you hear always, but i don't think that's unexpected. i actually don't think it's particularly significant because ultimately it's not going to change the power dynamic that's pretty entrenched. donald trump has always involved his children in his private business and i don't think he's going to be any different in the white house. >> yeah, that te of nepotism built the brand privately. of course it's going to be quite insul insular. if you had to make a prediction who was going to leave in the first six months of bannon or priebus, from your sources, who would it be? no one or -- >> i don't do predictions. look, here's the thing. donald trump has never really had the personal ideological

affinity with reince priebus that he had with steve bannon, okay? steve bannon and donald trump shared a world view to a larger extent. now reince priebus was very loyal to trump during the campaign but donald trump likes to remind him that he told him to drop out after that leaking of the "access hollywood" tape. so i think the relationship with steve bannon is certainly thicker but, look, steve bannon is a much more disruptive force than reince priebus. potentially the children will be more unsettled by steve happening around. i'm not making any predictions. i think it's foolish to make predictions about staffing and donald trump so i'm going to stay out of that. >> very good, jonathan. we appreciate it. we'll let you get back to working and great reporting. >> thank you. >> national political reporter. armed and dangerous. the man who wrote an anti-government manifesto to president trump and he also

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hi, everybody. welcome back. i'm thomas roberts. at the half hour this is what we're monitoring for you. aring new word frothe trump administration on iriorities in syria and whether it is time for the syrian president, bashar al assad, to go. here's secretary of state rex tillerson in an interview airing later in its entirety this morning. >> once the isis threat has been reduced or eliminated, i think we can turn our attention directly to stabilizing the situation in syria. clearly that requires the participation of the regime with the support of their allies, and we're hopeful that russia will choose to play a constructive role in supporting cease-fires through their own talks but ultimately through geneva. new this morning, nikki

haley's tough words on the country and iran and others who support the assad regime. >> you saw this terrible tragedy on innocent people, a lot of them children, and the first reaction from russia wasn't how horrible, it wasn't how could they do this, it wasn't how did this happen, it was, assad didn't do it. assad didn't do it. why was that the reaction? and so all of that is in play. that's why you're seeing the investigation on russia. that's why you're seeing we know the evidence on assad. we've seen it. we know exactly what happened and so we're calling them out, but i don't think anything is off the table at this point. >> so for more on the political headlines of the day we want to go to palm beh, florida, nbc's kelly o'donnell standing by. what more do we know about the administration's plans especially given this interview with secretary tillerson and the high bar caveat of making sure that isis is extinguished before examining whether the assad

regime must go? >> reporter: good morning, thomas. one of the challenges for the administration is trying to use what the president ordered with the airstrikes on the airfield as a -- at least a temporary stabilizing action, looking to send a signal about chemical weapons, looking to show a larger message, and at the same time a wait and see moment to see how does russia respond, how does the assad regime respond. it is a sort of tread lightly period of time because there are those who believe there should be some ground troops inside of syria. that's one of the options floated to the president. we're not anywhere near that yet but at the same time trying to show strength but also a little breathing space. so really a lot of this will be up to how the assad regime responds, if they take any action that is discernible as a response directly to this. so it's a challenge. for the trump administration this has been broadly perceived, at least among u.s. allies, as a smart step that was welcomed by the international community.

that gives the president a little breathing space as well. watching what happens next is almost a more difficult action than evaluating the chemical attack and this sort of targeted strike because now any other steps will be viewed as a much broader strategic play and not just a response to an imminent threat like a chemical attack. thomas? >> kelly, when it comes to offense or defense, when the white house discusses the navy ships moving toward the korean peninsula, how are they framing that? >> well, this is about a show of strength and a willingness to, again, try to communicate deterrence, try to show that there's a nimbleness in the u.s. navy. it's not unusual for this kind of positioning, but coming right after the action in syria and with north korea being one of the most volatile potential threats against the united states and as you remember, thomas, this was the one area that president obama most strongly stressed to the incoming president trump, north korea. and so this use of a u.s.

presence in the neighborhood is meant to show strength, not yet potential offense but definitely a message. if you interpret both of the pieces together the syrian action and this, it is very definitely trying to show international muscle and a willingness to act. >> kelly o'donll reporting in palm beach,florida, thank you. russian's foreign minister defending russia. sergei lavrov spoke on phone and at one point lavrov told tillerson, quote, an attack on a country whose government fights terrorism only plays into the hands of the extremists. they will meet later this week in moscow. bill neilly is there. let's talk about what else we're hearing about another important phone call that happened earlier today. a lot of buildup to the arrival of tillerson. >> reporter: yeah. the phone lines out of moscow have been hot today with calls

to washington, to tehran, and to anch anchora in turkey. russia is saying president put tan had a phone call to iranian president who is a russian ally in syria and they agreed that the u.s. missile strikes are, quote, unacceptable. that's the translation of what they said. they also said russian, iranian and the lebanese hezbollah group would increase their support for president assad. in saying the missile strikes are unacceptable, that's not a threat, it's just a bit of finger wagging from moscow and tehran. a call, too, between turkey's foreign minister and the russian foreign minister with the turks apparently saying russia has to stop insisting that president assad should remain as syria's leader, and as you've heard, yes, a phone call between rex tillerson and sergei lavrov, the

russian foreign minister. mr. tillerson made that call. it's the first chance the two men have had to speak since the u.s. missile strikes, and according to russia, mr. lavrov condemned the strikes, said they were unacceptable and also claimed, again, as russia has done, that syria does not have any chemical weapons. of course, when mr. tillerson gets here, he gets here tuesday night, meets lavrov on tuesday. it's a real challenge for him. he has to be strong and defend the mess siel strikes but also he needs to accomplish one of the central goals of president trump's central issues which is improve relations with russia. that's a tough job right now, thomas. >> it's a huge sticking point if russia will not admit to the fact that syria still had chemical weapons after 2013 in which time russia was supposed to oversee the disposal and

removal of syria's chemical weapons. bill neely reporting in moscow for us. thank you. the manhunt and the aints-government manifesto. coming up next, a man seen in a disturbing video caught stealing 16 guns and making threats against the president. all of this playing out in paul ryan's house. >> i'm hoping he doesn't come back. i'm hoping we don't have to dive into a basement to get out of a gun battle. but to beat the big boys, you need smarter ways to save people money. we know what you want from a financial company and we'll stop at... nothing to make sure you get it. one, two... and we mean nothing. ♪ ♪ we're on the move. and we mean nothing.

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welcome back. this morning authorities are following up on a number of tips as they search for a suspect, rather, of stealing more than a dozen firearms and threatening to carry out an attack. this morning people in wisconsin are on edge because of this. nbc's morgan radford has more on the investigation. >> reporter: day five of a massive manhunt. the fbi posting a $10,000 reward

as 150 officers scramble to find a man they say is armed, dangerous, and on the run. >> investigators have determined that he has acquired a bullet proof vest and a helmet. >> reporter: police say the 32-year-old stole 16 guns in janesville, sconsin, with plans to target government officials and local schools putting residents on high alert. >> very scary. we don't know what he's going to do. everybody is worried. >> reporter: authorities investigating a bizarre trail of clues after they caught him at this gas station in janesville just after noon on tuesday. hours later in cell phone video released by authorities he brags that he's planning something big while an anonymous man records him. >> today is the day. so remember this face. >> game time! >> reporter: this as he heads to a post office to mail a 161 page

manifesto to president trump complaining about the government and the upper class. >> revolution. time for change. >> reporter: then at 8:40 p.m. police respond to a burglary at a nearby gun shop. 16 firearms are stolen just 30 minutes before a nearby car registered to jakubowski burst into flames. >> he is really gunned up. ready to go to war. >> still, those who live next door say jakubowski didn't particularly stand out. >> a normal neighbor like everybody else. waive to him, talk to him, nothing good, bad, otherwise. >> reporter: a seemingly normal neighbor armed and on the loose. if military action brings long-time trump critics on board, could that encourage the president to get even more hawkish? we'll talk about that ahead. then in the next hour on "a.m. joy" a supporter could be

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change of art? is it beliable? >> well, it's simply an american looking at the photographs and asked to do something. this is something that president obama said that was -- i read -- a red line if you will back in tw 2008 in the campaign. this is something that hillary clinton said in gassing his own people. this is not about ronald reagan or president trump, but about being an american and making sure if in fact we can halt a genocide we do so. i applaud the president for thinking instinctively to do that. >> so if we look at this and the praise that president trump is getting because of it, do you think this is only going to encourage more military action because it's something he can control and it's also something that people seem to get on board with? >> that's exactly what's going to happen here because the one thing we know about donald

trump's ideology to the extent he has any he considers it a win any time he gets positive press coverage which is exactly what he's gotten from senator graham, democrats and also who have come over and supported in strike. what i'll say here is we're getting kind of a national lesson in how america gets entake entangled in military conflicts overseas. there's nothing easier for an american president to launc a missile strike. this one was more pr stunt than actual effective military action. it was easy, it was quick. and he got a great reception for it from both sides of the aisle. so absolutely, i think you have already seen a dramatic shift in policy. this -- robert raised that hillary clinton and president obama had both talked about the atrocities in syria and the need to do something and president trump was on the complete opposite side of that equation in terms of his campaign. but hey, this worked for him in terms of press coverage so i

think you'll see more. >> we know that the past isn't so much prologue, because he was against president obama doing a strike, and 3 1/2 years it's later. and rex tillerson is going on the sunday shows saying this will be a show to assad that you can't go against these charter agreements and not seeing a response especially when it comes to using chemical weapons. how much onus falls on this relationship to the fact that russia was supposed to have oversight of the removal and disposal of the weapons from the assad regime and rex tillerson is meeting face-to-face. is this really russia being complicit or faulty in the job of what they were supposed to do? >> well, as i understand it, they're definitely -- they dropped the ball here. as you very artfully said a few moments ago, this was on their watch. they were supposed to be the watchdogs if you will. i understand they dropped the ball so what secretary tillerson

needs to do very discreately is say, how can we fix this? how can we make sure you're in power and how can we work together behind the scenes? that's what what the secretary of state job is supposed to do in terms of the carrot there. obviously the secretary of degenerad defense's job is to stick. it will be interesting to see what the body language is like when he travels over toosw this week and what he says after the meeting and what president putin says as well. >> meanwhile we have issues at home. are you surprised how many democrats would be on board with praising -- it was on the same day that hillary clinton was saying we should take out the airfields but there are democrats who back up what president trump did. >> no, i'm not surprised because fundamentally i think democrats have shown themselves to be willing to cross the aisle and agree with not only this president but republicans in general when they really do agree with them. you know, republicans have been

very consistent in always opposing obama's policies no matter if it was something that they had previously advocated for. for some of the individuals this is consistent, but the other consistent theme that i'm seeing raised is you have completely reversed yourself. you have launched these missile strikes, you claim now to carry about syria from a humanitarian perspective but what now? explain these strikes and the context of a larger policy and in terms of the larger ideal because you raised something so important here, thomas. how can you claim about caring about the humanitarian crisis that's going on in syria and meanwhile, close our doors to the mostly women and children who are trying to flee that civil war? so we continue to have that inconsistency and just huge questions about where this leads us and where it leaves our policy. >> we shall see. time will only tell on this. krystal ball, great to have you on. i want to have you back again. i want to talk about your book that came out on april the 3rd.

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good morning. welcome to "a.m. joy." so this week in foreign affairs felt a lot like choose your own adventure story. so many possible endings to choose from. though none of them are too enticing. will we go to war with north korea or as donald trump sends missiles into syria will we stumble into a war with assad's patron, russia, or as tensions in the area escalate, could syria become the new iraq? here's secretary of state rex tillerson on that last option. >> we believe that the first priority is the defeat of isis. and once the isis