don't drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can be more active. ask your doctor about lyrica. there a, good day, everybody. i'm alex witt at msnbc world headquarters in new york. here is what's happening. we have breaking news this hour. two bombings shatter the peace of palm sunday services at churches in egypt. the toll of dead and injured is rising. and now, a claim of responsibility. we're going to take you to the sad and unsettling situation and bring you all the details in a live report. and the shocking moment that bob exploded in one place of worship, that is ahead for you. first, new and strong reaction by the trump administration against russia amid an investigation that it was complicit in syria's

chemical gas attack. here is u.n. ambassador nikki haley followed by national security adviser h.r. mcmaster. >> the first reaction from russia wasn't, how horrible. it wasn't, how could they do this. it wasn't, how did this happen. it was, assad didn't do it, assad didn't do it. why was that the reaction? that's why you're seeing investigation on russia. that's why you're seeing the fact that we know the evidence on assad, we've seen it, we know exactly what happened. so we're calling them out. but i don't think anybody is off the table at this point. truly it is amazing that they continue to cover for assad. it's very telling and it's not putting russia in a good light in the international community. >> with a we should do is ask russia, how could it be, if you have advisers at that airfield, that you didn't know the syrian air force was preparing and executing a mass murder attack with chemical weapons? >> meanwhile, secretary of state

rex tillerson standing by comments last week about the fate of president assad and u.s. priorities in syria. >> we're hopeful that through this syrian process, working with coalition members, working with the u.n., in particular working through the geneva process, that we can navigate a political outcome in which the syrian people in fact will determine bashar al assad's fate and his legitimacy. i think the question of how his criminal actions are dealt with is something that will be part of that process. once the isis threat has been reduced or eliminated, i think we can turn our attention directly to stabilizing the situation in syria. >> congress also weighing in today. senator lindsey graham coming to president trump's defense with this warning to syria and other world enemies. >> if you kill babies with conventional bombs, it's still a moral outrage. here's what i think assad is telling trump by flying from

this blaise. f. you. and i think he's making a serious mistake. if you're an adversary of the united states and you don't worry about what trump may do on any given day, then you're crazy. >> but lawmakers including congressman adam schiff and senator tim kaine are comparing the president's decision to president obama's response in 2013. >> he was presented with a diplomatic alternative that the russians put on the table. you exhaust all those dip low t diplomatic alternatives. the answer to that syrian father's question, how can the world allow this to go on, that much stronger today than it was in 2013. but i don't think, george, it should have been done without congressional approval. >> we had a briefing by the white house on friday. they still presented us with no plan. we don't know if it's limited or

whether there's more. and when we asked about the legal authorization, they said they weren't prepared to discuss that but they hoped to discuss it in the coming days. again, our system is, we don't want a president, any president, just being able to start a war or launch missiles whenever they want. there's got to be congressional approval. on top of all this, happening now, the u.s. aircraft carrier "vinson" has been ordered to the western pacific in response to recent process o provocations by north korea. let's head to palm beach, florida, site of president trump's weekend retreat, of course. nbc's hallie jackson is there on a sunday, good day to you, hallie. the president was tweeting about the church bombings in egypt. >> reporter: the president

condemns the taxi and has confidence in egyptian president faah el sisi, that he will handle the situation properly. while the president is here at palm beach spending a little bit of downtime away from washington, a couple of days after the summit with the chinese leader, alex. >> hallie, let's talk about the administration's plans for followup on syria. what comes after the strikes? >> reporter: listen, alex, that is kind of the billion dollar question here, because it has not been made clear specifically what the long term strategy in syria is going to be. that's why you're hearing questions from, for example, members of get about what the plan is, essentially. the administration has alluded to more action if and when necessary and appropriate but hasn't said what that action will be, hasn't said what the plan will be if bashar al assad were to come out of power there, and that's raising questions. you have the secretary of state being one of the most fixable

fac visible faces after the syrian air strike, he's been public in talking about the administration's rationale for carrying out that syrian air strike. he's also come under a little bit of criticism from senator marco rubio over the last week. i want to play for you what marco rubio said just this morning. >> the strategy he seems to be outlining is based on assumptions that aren't going to work. there is no such thing as assad yes but isis no. the notion that you can defeat isis as long as assad is there are not true. they're two sides of the same coin. as long as bashar al assad is in power in syria, isis will be radicalized. it's not going to work. >> reporter: so some strong words from marco rubio there, alex. while lawmakers are out on recess for these next couple of weeks, expect this to beort a driving and dominant headline overt next week as members congress press the president and

press the administration for answers to that very question you just asked. >> a perfect setup, thank you, hall hallie, for my next discussion. karen bass, democratic congresswoman from california, always good to have you on the broadcast. let's get right to it. you said on friday that the administration's foreign policy is not clear. after hearing now both rex tillerson and nikki haley offer some guidelines on syria, does that change your thinking at all? >> not at all. it's not clear to me what the overall strategy is on syria and beyond that, it's not clear how this president plans to approach foreign policy. so you have him being moved by the attacks on the syrian children, and then you have him saying that those same children are not allowed to come to the united states. he releases a budget that cuts the state department by 30%. you know, at the same time as the crisis is going on in syria, we also have what the u.n. has declared potentially the worst

humanitarian crisis since the u.n. was formed in 1945, and that expand across three south african questions and yemen. 20 million people potentially at risk of starvation. you can't just take foreign policy a piece at a time. what is his overall strategy? what is his approach? what is going to come next? why did he wait until all of us were leaving dc, at least in the house, to do the bombing? why didn't he bring us in? we need an aumf, authorized use of military force. congress needs to debate this issue. >> what about your colleague, ranking intel member adam schiff, that there's more of a case to have been made for action in syria than there was in 2013 with president obama. do you agree with that? >> i have a hard time with that.

what was bombed? we bombed an airport, and 24 hours later, that airport was back bombing the same area that was victim to the chemical weapons. so i don't understand the point. i understand sending a message. but what does that mean a day later? to me, i think it has the potential to embolden everybody, to embolden the syrians, to g d embolden the north koreans. what is the policy, what is the approach of this president? >> we have a letter to congress in which now the president spoke about this and you have secretary of state rex tillerson saying that the nation's administration's main priority is the defeat of isis. let's hear his point. >> sure. >> once the isis threat has been reduced or eliminated, i think we can turn our attention directly to stabilizing the situation in syria. we're hopeful that we can prevent a continuation of a

civil war and that we can bring the parties to the table to begin the process of political discussions. >> so let's get to the defeat of isis. must that happen before any diplomatic resolution could happen of bashar al assad? how many more lives might that take? >> i think that that's exactly the point. first of all, it was nice to hear the secretary of state speak. i think that was probably the first time he did. but again, what is the strategy for defeating isis and where are we talking about? are we talking about syria, iraq? what is the overall strategy? the problem is, is that this administration really has not articulated much. remember, just a few days before the president was moved to send a message to syria, just a few days before that, the message coming out of the administration was, we're not going to do this, that we're not going to deal with assad. and so, you know, you can't go back and forth. i understand that his overall approach in life and in business

has been to be flpa, to be spontaneous, to be, quote unquote, flexible. you cannot do this in the international arena. there is a world that now he is one of the key leaders of. >> but we have the president arguing that the strikes in syria were in the national and foreign policy interests of the united states, going beyond just the moral argument here. do you agree? >> no, i don't agree. again, it's hard for me to agree to anything when 48, 72 hours before, you said something that is completely the opposite. and then you are so moved by the attack on the children, the same children that you say cannot come to the united states to escape the person who just attacked. it is hypocritical. it's disjointed. it's flippant. you can't be flippant on the world stage. >> i want to get to korea. it was reported president obama told incoming president trump

that north korea would be his biggest national security challenge. now you have a strike group headed to the peninsula. what are your fears? >> i'm scared to death. when we're dealing with the situation with north korea, north korea could essentially wipe out seoul with their missiles that they could reach right now, today. so we cannot play around with north korea. so i'm worried that i think that you have a person who is in charge that is willing to kill his own brother, willing to kill his uncle, apparently has killed lots of people around him. and i think he is very erratic and unstable. so i think we have to be very, very careful. you know, our presidentan't just wake up one day and decide, oh, i'm mad at north korea, so let me go send a message. i mean, he's even said that maybe we need to reinforce south korea with nuclear weapons. i think, again, you can't just have one-offs in foreign policy.

how are you going to approach the world? on the good side, though, at least the president is recognizing that we cannot be an isolationist government. his america first policy has now reached a point where i think he is realizing you can't just sit in mar-a-lago, play golf on the weekends, do his job five days a week, and then say when i get mad, i'm going to go send a message to the world. >> from los angeles, democratic congresswoman karen bass, thank you for your time. back to the breaking news in egypt, the deadly bombings at christian churches. the first explosion happened north of cairo. at least 26 people were killed. the church was packed with palm sunday worshippers. and it happened during a ways o televised service. a warning, this video may be unsettling. [ singing ]

>> oh, boy. nbc's lucy cavanaugh, it's chilling to see that. ato we know about this attack, and has there been official reaction from the egyptian government? >> sure, alex. this was supposed to be a day of celebration the sunday before easter. instead, shock, anguish and disbelief. at least 43 people killed this morning, a hundred counted. the first attack taking place at 9:30 a.m., that's when that explosion that we watched and heard on that video ripped through the church, killing at least 27, injuring dozens. horrific footage of the aftermath. authorities believe an explosive device was planted inside the church near the front. the second suicide attack took

place outside of st. mark's church in alexandria, egypt's second largest city. at least 16 people killed in that one, 41 wounded. our freelance contributor on the scene says at least 15 nearby shops were destroyed. the attacker approached the church gate, was turned away, and that's when he detonated his device. as horrific as this attack was, it could have been much worse. president fattah el sisi condemning the the violence, ordering the deployment of troops across the country to assist the victims. >> what about claims of responsibility? >> reporter: isis may be losing ground in iraq and syria but it has had increasing success assess in egypt. the group's affiliate is one of the most effective given the large number of casualties it inflicts.

they've waged a campaign of terror against christians in egypt, drive many people from their homes, staging suicide attacks including one around christmastime last year that killed 25 people in cairo escalating that campaign just a few weeks before pope francis visits the country. alex, we have confirmation that the pope will keep his visit, not cancelling his visit. >> lucy kafanov, thank you for that. one congresswoman on the foreign affairs committee called the air strikes on syria illegal and unconstitutional. here is just one of the tweets. i'm going to ask former vermont governor howard dean things her comments are a disgrace, coming up. and i couldn't wait to get my pie chart. the most shocking result was that i'm 26% native american. i had no idea.

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we called out russia because we needed to. we put iran on notice because we need to get that influence out of there. and we told syria, we are not going to watch this anymore. >> with international affairs occupying the white house this week, there are reports of efforts to calm the feud between some of his chief aides in the west wing, discord that the administration denies. i'm glad to have both of you with me. nyla, do you believe that steve bannon, jared kushner, ivanka trump, reince priebus have, one and all, the capacity to understand that a lot more hangs in the balance in the west wing than any private sector job? this is not the time for internal squabbles. >> well, it's not the time for it, but that has been a white

house afflicted by exactly those kind of squabbles through its relatively brief existence. more to the point, a lot of these alliances seem to be shifting. we were assured a short time ago that steve bannon and jared kushner were on the same page, an alliance of sorts. that appears not to be the case. president trump supposedly telling them to work out their differences. i think this factionalism in the white house is continuing. and i don't honestly see any sign of it coming to an end anytime soon. >> and now with your coverage there of the white house, is there any word during this so-called palace intrigue of any face-to-face shouting matches? is it getting that tough there? >> there are definitely tensions. of course when everyone speaks for the white house in an official capacity they try to limit those tensions. steve bannon referred to creative tensions, which is a rather nice euphemism for it. but certainly these are very intense battles.

and i think president trump's own perceived unpredictability adds to that issue, because there aren't really that clear remits for people, there aren't always a very clear chain of command. so things all fuel this issue, i believe. >> despite the fact for his being known for saying "you're fired" on "the appren," he appreciates loyalty and doesn't like getting rid of tho who work for him, at least that's what it's been like in the past. do you suspect in the end that there won't be any heads rolling, but being that blood is thicker than water, the heads that would roll would be priebus and bannon? >> that's exactly right, alex. trump likes a team of rivals. we're used to in the last several presidents a very strong chief of staff and everything running through the chief of staff's office. in this case you see a bunch of

different power centers witness t within the white house, and they are rivals, they're rivals with one another. you're right, if anyone has to go, it's never going to be the family. trump came from and grew up in a family business. to him, family is immutable, unquestioned, and they will always be there. so tactically speaking it was probably a mistake for bannon to take on jared kushner because that is the person who trump will never fire, he will never say "you're fired" to his daughter ivanka and her husband. >> amid all this, it appears the president has earned a political victory of sorts with neil gorsuch and the results of his strike in syria. do anti-trump gop members, and democrats, they say this worked for us, what might be the effect of this strike in particular? >> it's been a great and much-needed bump for him, because he has been struggling in recent weeks, not just with the rivalry of his own team but

obviously the failure of his immigration ban, obviously the fa failure to repeal obamacare. he needed a good week, he finally got one. but the question is and remains, is that sustainable, is this a policy? are you creating a foreign policy doctrine? and what are the next steps in syria? having one successful bombing mission, 59 tomahawk missiles doth not a foreign policy make. beyond short term small victories, where do you create a legacy and something that lasts beyond you? >> in particular we saw lindsey graham who has railed against the president, he now says donald trump has the instincts of ronald reagan. do you think he knew president trump might be part of the audience listening to him there? >> he may have done. the relationship between lindsey graham and donald trump is a peculiar one and has gone through all sorts of twists and

turns. but i do take jay's point. clearly the republican party, republican skeptics are broadly speaking impressed with what has happened here. but it does really depend on what comes next. president trump mocked president obama, the idea of red lines. but we don't know what president trump's red lines are, really. we knew that this chemical attack appears to have provoked the strike on the airfield. but does he want bashar al assad to go? does he just not want him to use chemical weapons? we don't know what president trump's guiding principles are for these issues. and the same goes for a number of other foreign policy issues including north korea, which i know you've been speaking about. >> we certainly have. niall and jay, good to see you both, thank you, guys. congresswoman tulsi gabbard coming from fire from her fellow democrats. per roll

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welcome back, everyone. i'm alex witt at msnbc world headquarters in new york. here's what we're monitoring for you. in egypt, two church bombings killed at least 37 people, wounding more than a hundred folks attending palm sunday services at coptic christian churches, the latest in a series of attacks on egypt's christian minority. pope francis, who will visit egypt next month, condemned the violence from the evacuate i va. police in sweden suspect a driver who is under arrest and had been rejected for asylum for the truck attack in stockholm. the presidents of russia and iran are condemning last

thursday's missile strike in syria. vladimir putin and rouhani agreed this morning that the u.s. actions violated international law. here is a report by bill neely in moscow. >> reporter: president putin spoke with iran's president rouhani, they're allies in the fight to support president assad of syria. russia and iran agreed that the u.s. missile strikes were unacceptable and they say along with the lebanese group hezbollah they are increasing their support for president assad's forces. >> in a separate phone call, secretary of state rex tillerson spoke with russian foreign minister lavrov today, who said that the u.s. strike plays into the hands of extremist. mike mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia, there are

questions about what opened the door for the chemical attack. here is the question that u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley wants answered. >> russia has to tell us which one it is. either they knew there were chemical weapons and they knew there was going to be chemical weapons use and they just hid it from the international community, or they're being played for fools by assad, by hihaving chemical weapons and they're just in the dark and they don't know anything about it. >> which do you think it is? >> well, i don't know. but i think it is a question that needs to be answered, because let's remember, the last time assad used major chemical weapons against civilians, president obama in 2013 threatened physical force and met with putin in december in st. petersburg and they agreed to eliminate, that was the verb, to eliminate all chemical weapons from syria, and back

then putin was the hero for getting rid of these weapons and avoiding the use of force. he has to explain to the world why they weren't eliminated. we know that wasn't true. >> is it plausible that russian intelligence would not know about the existence of chemical weapons in syria? >> i'm guessing, but my guess is of course they would know. they have that country penetrated. they're embedded everywhere there because of their military. it's hard to believe they would not have known about these russians. >> so if russia is complicit, what is the motivation? what does russia get out of it? >> i don't think they wanted this. i think this looks bad for president putin, right? he's supposed to be the deliverer of this great agreent. don't forget, the group, the united group that took these weapons out won the nobel peace prize for eliminating chemical weapons in syria. but it doesn't mean he can

control assad in the ways that most people assume. this idea that he just picks up the phone and assad does what he wants, that is not true. most certainly was not true when i was in the government. and mr. assad has other allies. he has the iranians, he has hezbollah. and their interests don't always align with the russian interests. >> some are asking then why assad would want to launch a chemical attack. there is a theory out there that he wanted just to drive a wedge between the u.s. and russia. is that idea plausible or do you think there's a better explanation? >> again, i don't know. i haven't talked to mr. assad. i find it hard to believe he would be so calculating. i think instead he was launching this next wave of attack against the opposition. they had moved from aleppo to idlib and he was not afraid to try to use these weapons, thinking he could get away with it. >> so there are these escalating tensions between top u.s. and russian diplomats all over the

accounts of the chemical attack, russia disputing that the syrian government is responsible, even. is this all some sort of diplomatic standoff or do you think this might lead to real military consequences? >> i don't think it will lead to military consequences. this is not a new doctrine by trump, president trump. and i'm quite confident that secretary tillerson is going to be bringing that message to moscow. it's most certain not about regime change. and so therefore, it's up to putin to decide how he really wants to respond to this. formally, they've said what they said. violation of international law, although every time i hear that from russian officials, i want to ask them about crimea and eastern ukraine. putin himself has been rather cautious about the way he's reacted. he asked his prime minister, medvedev, to do the tough talk. i'll be interested to see how he reacts to tillerson. remember, they were elated by

president trump's election. they thought they were going to get all kinds of concessions from president trump because candidate trump promised those concessions. i'm not sure they want to give all that up, lifting of sanctions, recognition of spheres of influence, just because of this one military attack in syria. >> how does this standoff change the tenor of things for this meeting between tillerson and lavrov this week? and is it at all a disadvantage for tillerson to be on moscow soil rather than the reverse? does that put him at a disadvantage? >> well, yes and no. i think the big advantage is that he'll be able to see president putin. in fact i expect that he will. and if he doesn't, that would be a signal, by the way, that they are not interested in engagement. but it gives -- this is a first major trip to moscow from a senior trump official to try to talk about this big agenda that had been promised by candidate trump before. and i think they want to hear him out before they make any judgments about which way the

bilateral relationship is going to go. >> how much do you think rex tillerson's goodwill or at least experience with russia in his role as the head of exxon will way into how he's received in russia? is he the right person to be doing this right now, because of the past? >> well, there's no doubt that he knows these russian players a lot better than most new former secretaries of state, right? he's met vladimir putin. most secretaries of state coming in, he's been around for 17 years now, had not met vladimir putin before they came. there's good news and bad news to that. on the one hand, he understands the russians, he's not new to the way they negotiate, and there's a plus. on the other hand, he's inflated the expectations about what they want to get from him. they think of him as being pro-russian. they think of president trump as being pro-russian. and those expectations are pretty high right now. if he comes in and disappoints,

it might make it easier for them to poivot away from this attemp at reset between the united states and russia. >> michael mcfaul, good to see you, thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. coming up next, president trump's contradictions on syria and the praise he's receiving from some critics. anything, text me. do you play? ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap, to friends at more banks then ever before. you got next? chase. helping you master what's now and what's next. ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine. i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults

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when this refugee situation came up, he actually challenged the community and said -- and challenged his team and said, prove to me that you can vet properly so we can keep american people safe. and i think in these areas they said they couldn't vet properly. >> that was ambassador nikki haley on the sunday talk shows, explaining president trump's position on syrian refugees. joining me is jay inslee, governor of the state of washington. good morning, sir, i'm curious how you feel about fellow democrats from chuck schumer to nancy pelosi, praising the

president for launching a missile strike against syria. >> well, look, our nation understands we recoil against the inhumanity of any use of chemical weapons. we all understand that. but we really need a policy rather than some sort of one-off, knee-jerk reaction. the president needs to articulate one. he does not have one right now. and if he does, i hope, if he has in fact discovered a new humanity, that he will reconsider this stoppage of our national effort to do what we've historically done which is to help refugees, people in harm's way, by the thousands. this anti-refugee policy, his tea par attempt to shut the gates to refugees, we've stopped him in his traction in tks in the stat washington. we hope he will extend that humanity to allow a reasonable number of people to come to our

country as refugees as they all are around the world. i hope that that will happen. it should. and we in washington would like that to happen. >> there are high profile others who would agree with you. let's take a listen to hillary clinton. >> we cannot in one breath speak of protecting syrian babies and in the next, close america's doors to them. >> so there is that. but could a one-off strike, if it doesn't lead to embedding the united states, embroiling us in something we don't necessarily want to get involved in milit y militarily speaking, could it be a start for this administration? >> it's possible it could reduce the appetite by chemical weapons by assad. if it has that result, that would be great. but we know that barrel bombs are pretty terrible as well. and we know this is not going to be a solution to the whole syrian crisis.

that's why we need a long term rational policy. there is something that i'm concerned about. i hope the president doesn't take his eye off the ball that the real immediate security risk to the united states is isis. isis using the territory of syria as a launching pad for their terror attacks against the united states is the real immediate danger for our national security interests. and i guess my thinking is, we need a president who will have a policy based on logic and judgment and cool consideration rather than just reactions to what he sees on his tv screen. that's what we need. >> governor, do you think it's possible that isis knows all about this attack and things, well, this is a guy who is going to strike, potentially? >> well, as i've said, this may be appropriate in the right circumstances, but we need it to be based on logic and cool consideration, not just sort of knee-jerk reactions. let me just say, i'll be the first to say, i certainly don't

have the imagine magic elixir f in syria. this is an extremely complicated puzzle. you have at least a half a dozen forces in conflict there. i'm not pretending to know the answer. but if you are going to be based on humanitarian instincts, you ought to look at refugees as people and you ought to stop this departure from american policy for centuries where we have always helped people in crisis. and we know the people in crisis. by the way, the vetting process we have had for the last ten years has worked. and i'll tell you, the proof is in the pudding. we have admitted hundreds of thousands of folks from the mid-east, around the world. we have not had one single attack on u.s. soil from the people we have vetted. our vetting has worked. it ought to be allowed to continue. >> i want to get local here with my next question because i know, sir, you've been an outspoken critic of the trump

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if president assad is found to be responsible after an independent investigation for these horrific chemical weapons attacks, i'll be the first one to denounce him, but the key is now with president trump's reckless military strikes last night, it flew directly in the face of the action that the u.n. was working on at that time to launch an independent investigation, to find out exactly what the facts are, who was involved and who was responsible. >> that is hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard, an iraq vet, and she's casting doubt on the president's claim that the syrian government was behind the chemical attack last tuesday. let's bring in howard dean, former vermont governor, msnbc contributor and susan del percio both front and center right here. good to have you guys. howard, how do you respond to tulsi gabbard?

>> i think it's outrageous. there's a long history, every single one of these agencies has said that assad is using chemical weapons. he's a barbarian, he's murdered half a million of his own people. i can't imagine how you could make a statement like that, especially being on the foreign relations committee. i can't igine what could possibly be going through her head. >> and to that end, you put a tweet out there. >> yeah, go ahead. >> so you said gabbard should not be in congress, that this is a disgrace. all she's asking for is proof, though. >> if you're on the foreign relations committee and you haven't seen the proof in the last five and a half years, there's something the matter with you. i am tired of people making excuses. this is no different than trump making excuses for putin. we've had enough of this. let's talk about facts. and the fact is, assad is a butcher, a murderer, and he has repeatedly over the past few years used chemical weapons on his own people. what more do you want?

>> so, we were talking in the commercial break, susan, about what you think may be behind this. what do you think it is? >> i think it's her looking for headlines. there's no other reason to come out with this kind of insanity -- literally, it is insane to think assad is not behind these chemical attacks and she's looking for her time in front of the cameras and i think it will prove to be detrimental to her career because she'll also lose a lot of credibility with her colleagues on both sides of the aisle. this isn't a republican or democratic issue of who releases chemical attacks. both sides agree this is assad. they may have differences on how we should go forward with it, but certainly he should be held accountable and named as a man who is using weapons of mass destruction on his own people. >> and in the wake of this, how interesting do you find senator lindsey graham, who's been a vocal critic of the president, saying he's likening himo nald reagan. what do you think comes from this? >> maybe that's linds graham's

way of saying -- handing out an olive branch, i'm not sure, but what he was trying to say is i support the president and his actions and feels like he's on the right track. >> okay. i understand you retweeted neera tanden who came out outspoken against tulsi gabbard. do you think this is building against her, what will come from this, or also is she articulating her own personal thoughts or those of the people who put her in office? >> i have no idea, but i doubt the average american thinks assad had nothing to do with chemical weapons or we should have an independent investigation to find out if he did. look, you've got to trust the people on the ground. i trust doctors without borders. i trust amnesty international. do i always agree with amnesty international? no, but i do trust there are people on the ground who have seen this. she has also made herself

miserable. i didn't have a huge problem with her going to see assad, but then she goes to see assad and then defends assad saying maybe he didn't really do this. that is a bad thing to do and makes you look terrible. i agree with susan, doesn't matter what party you're in, you should not be doing that with someone who's used chemical weapons on his own people. >> also sets her up for attacks within her own party, because in this environment where some people are still trying to look bipartisan in how they are thinking, it's very easy target -- not target, but rightfully so for democrats and republicans to question her, especially her fellow committee members. >> overall, who do you think it is that's going after her? is it the moderateocts, progressives, those who support -- >> she supported bere sanders. i think progressives sort of have -- look, i think when you do this, you sort of shrug. i was very much of a tulsi gabbard fan when she first came on the scene. she's outspoken, has a great

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