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all right, thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live. find me on social media, i would love to hear from you. we have important news coming up so i will toss is over to andrea mitchell at andrea mitchell reports. thank you right now. live from moscow, warning shots with tensions rising, escalating now, secretary of state rex tillerson arrives here ready for a confrontation with the krem n kremlin. >> it is unclear whether or not they failed to take this seriously or if russia has been incompetent, but it doesn't much matter to the dead. we can't let this happen again. >> new low, vladimir putin
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rejects the u.s. claims of a chemical attack. saying it is like the false claims about iraq's wmd in 2003. moments ago, president trump refusing to weigh in on putin. >> mr. president -- >> thank you, all. >> and mixed messages, the administration struggling to get on the same page with it's syria frat gi. sean misser forced to explain. >> if you ga a baby, you will see a response from this president. make no mistake, he will act. >> good day, i'm andrea mitchell
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in moscow. the u.s. is in a show down with russia over a syrian attack. vladimir putin dismissing the u.s. accusations reminding the world that america was wrong about wmd in iraq. how do they come back from the brink. peter alexander is in washington and will be with us throughout the hour. first of all, tillerson and nikki hailey, taking a hard line on russia. president trump has not said a thing about vladimir putin since this chemical attack. >> i think you're exactly right. he is effectively riding in the back saelt as these two are driving this train right now for an administration that seems to be falling. we heard from rex tillerson earlier on this day, making it
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very clear that the assad regime would be coming to an end. what remains unclear is what form this will all take going forward. tillerson saying that they have a decision to make right now. will they pick a side? or will they, instead, side with regime and other militant groups. we're also getting a unique window into his thinking in advance of his decision to strike in syria. we were hearing from eric trump that spoke to a british newspaper and made the comment that the decision to mom syria was influenced by his daughter ivanka.
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she was heartbreaking and outraged. it was a little window, it was a personal decision. the white house administration is reluctant to telegraph what the future policy on syria will be. or do they suggest that they are winging it right now. >> with the president tweeting about north korea saying they would raise nuclear weapons. . >> i think you're right, we see on the press they redirected their twitter feed. china deciding to help. if not, he separately wrote he
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would be open or willing to leverage a better trade deal to do more to put pressure on north korea right now. the strength of their trade deals wi the north koreans, roughly 85% to 90% of the trade that stakes place with north korea comes from china, one of their neighbors. >> i have been here before with hillary clinton and with john kerry. we have seen other secretaries of state dealing with the russian situation. but this really is a new level of tension. >> if you walk us through, i know you been on this trip in the past with past secretaries of state, what are you seeing that is so striking about what some are describing is the toughest land cape for a u.s.
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leader on a trip of this sort. >> the biggest change, of course, is that the secretary of state is not a diplomat. it is in such dramatic contrast compared to those who are getting a medal from vladimir putin. always we're told that he will raise the russian hacking. tillerson is completely in sync with what they said about that. so peter, while you stand by, i will bring in michael mcfall who is an msnbc contributor and the former u.s. ambassador to russia. you know this space to well. putin has a news conference with the italian leader just as tillerson is arriving at almost the same time. as tillerson was arriving weakened because he and boris
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johnson, the british foreign secretary tried to get the ministers to talk about tougher sanctions against russia and or syria. the other laiders were not buying it. >>. >> i saw that and that is not goose news. i don't need to interview you, but the key question to me is will he meet with vladimir putin. i know it was on the schedule and taken off. this is typical for meetings between the secretary of state and vladimir putin. if he goes all of the way to moscow and fails to meet with the president of russia, that is a big blow to his stature and a real signal the russians are pivoting away for what was thought to be a real honey moon
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period. >> and you know very well, i think you were probably there when secretary kerry had to wait three hours. putin likes to assert his power and strength. they never officially announced on the u.s. side there would be that meeting. they say it is typically done when the secretary of state visits, and they briefed us on what would likely happen. they neil reed said it was on the schedule. so they built in the denyability, but if there is no meeting if it was scheduled or not, but that does not take place some time tomorrow, that is a big signal and it changing dramatically. the language from tillerson, mike, about the russians either come police sit with syria, because they were embedded on
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that air base where the chemicals were launched from, come polili accomplice -- complicit or incompete incompetent. that was the explanation for president obama not using military force, saying well, we accomplished what we needed to without using military force. we have the international agreement, and all of the declared chemicals were eliminat eliminated. that means he did not list everything that he had. >> that is right, i mean i think it is a real below for putin and his stature as a person would could deliver on that. i was there in 2013 when president balm and president -- president obama and president putin met and the verb was to he
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limb nate. so i think that raises big questions, both about his ability to deliver, things committed with mr. assad, but questions about the united nations as well. that was involved and won the noble peace prize as a result of this deal. to your point about tillerson, i have to say that i was shocked about how tough his language was. on the eve of his visit as secretary of state, just a radical reversal from the more moderate language he had been using just before arriving in moscow. i'm almost positive that will not go down well in the kremlin. >> it seems from watching the secretary of state that he is getting his sea legs. mike flynn is no longer there,
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they have a close relationship, they worked on their ri relationship with president trump, and now he knows that he has general mattis. and you still have silence from president trump about the russian hacking, about russia's involvement or complicity for what happened with the chemical attack. the president has not spoken and it is quite a gulf with his own national security officials. >> yes, you're right. he is tweeting about north korea and not russia, but i think your observation is the right one. they got a slow start as a government. they're still way behind where we were at this point in the obama administration. to the best of my knowledge they
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have not done a thorough policy review of russia. they just named their person at the white house a few days ago, but if you look at secretary tillerson, what hr mcmaster has done, they're both former colleagues of mine, they're not roman it about russia. they were not looking for a big breakthrough. and it seems like tillerson has now moved toward that position. by the way, a position they support, the wildcard in all of this is still the president, and if i had to guess, i think he is trying to figure out is it already over and did we just lock into a more confrontational stance? or is he holding up the possibility that there might be a way to cooperate with russia on other matters and that we might both get over this near
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term confrontation over syria. i think putin is asking the same question. he has some beg issues that he wants to deal with with the americans. first and fore most, lifting the sanctions. so this visit at the end of storm i think will have a better sense of is there any possibility of moving forward, or are we back to the stance we had at the end of the obama-putin area. >> been there and done all of this. thank you so much for all of your insight today. coming up, more from moscow as rex tillerson prepares for what is sure to be tough meetings. tough meetings with the russians coming up. you're watching andrea mitchell reports live from moscow.
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we want to relieve the suffering of the syrian people. we want to create a future for syria that is stable and secure. and so russia can be a part of that future. and play an important role. or russia can maintain their alliance with this group, which we believe is not going to serve russia's interest longer term. but only russia can answer that question. >> secretary of state rex tillerson speaking in italy before tlieing here to moscow. joining me now is ambassador
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nick burns, the secretary of state for foreign affairs and a former ambassador to nato. this is quite a show down. as tiller son w ertillerson was those words, with their attack and use of chemical weapons, putin was having a news conference here saying this sounds like the u.s. claiming that iraq had wmd and being very dismissive and the russian foreign ministry is saying these are at their worst state since the war. >> i think secretary tillerson will have a very rough time in moscow. i support what he is trying to do, which is to move the russians off of this war like position. if you frame it that they have to choose between syria and the united states, we know they will cheese syria.
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they give russia a foothold. through the airpower, through the alignment of hezbollah and they want to keep that. i don't think that will be a winning hand for the administration. but i think the russians over the long term cannot and will not want to sustain the pace of the military involvement. so secretary tillerson's task is to try to align with the turks to push the russians toward a genuine negotiation, but that could be months if not years in the making. >> and the syrian foreign minister is report i did coming here at the end of the week. is that a good sign that they will not use chemical weapons and to back off of the some of the other horrors of this continuing war? the conventional weapons? or is it a bad sign they will cement their alliance and push back against the west? >> i would think that the
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russians would not see it in their interest to have the syrians firing off chemical weapons, gas attacks against civilians because it was putin that made the deal in 2013 that syria would give up all of their chemical weapons and they cheated on that agreement and there is speculation that the russians made have understood what the syrians were doing. so i don't think that the russians will fall off of their support for president assad because he is the connection for the russian government. i think the administration will be well advised to articulat e common line on syria. we have seen them all say different things about the intentions of the trump administration and that is never a good idea. >> you know the confusion from
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these mixed messages is stark. what tillerson said at the g 7 was not regime change. they want asad out, but through the political process. it was no different, frankly, from what john kerry and barack obama were saying in the previous administration that there should be negotiations in geneva and that's the way to get him out. a lot more mainstream than what was originally said. they can hardly hold an election. but what about the confusion of different voices on strategy to syria? >> it is a real problem. the administration seems a little built adrift. now they just changed their position last week when they used force against syria. i supported that, the cruise
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missile attack. he could say, for instance, that we're not going to stand for chemical weapons attacks but we don't have an intention of intervening in this particular war. we have an intention of leading a diplomatic process. i think that is a safer line for the administration. in the final analysis russia has the power and the united states doesn't. so putin who is of course cynical and opportunistic understands that and he will not let the united states push him around. so i think limited objectives is probably the best way to go and we all wish him luck in this enterprise, of course. >> let me ask you before you goes a norgo s about north korea. north korea threatening nuclear strikes if the u.s. fleet moves closer and the u.s. commander in the rebeyond cancelling scheduled temperature saying he
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needs to stay on the job because, in the region, because things are so tense. this is yet another crisis for this white house. >> andrea, i think the two most difficult issues that the administration and the united states have dealt with are north korea and syria. i think the trump administration is right to challenge china to do more to contain the north korean threat. but the chinese need to be treated carefully. they influence china behind the scenes for president trump to tweet out today to the chinese, publicly, you better help us or we will go it alone, probably not the most effective way of dealing with xi jinping. fran fr frankly not as seemless and
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profession professional as we would like. >> the president not a good idea. it could get more complicated for nick burns. thank you so very much. we'll have more coming up later from moscow. first back to peter alexander in washington. >> thank you so much. we'll go back to you in a matter of moments. another big story here closer to home, outrage growing over this disturbing video showing a passenger being dragged off of a united airline's flight. we are now confirming the name of that passenger that reredefinrerdefined the idea of fight or flight. (de♪p breath) (phone ringing)
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united could not find any volunteers to give up their seats so crew members could fly to their next destination. witnesses say he refused to leave and that is when law enforcement was called in. >> the passenger hit his head on the armrest next to him. knocked him out, got all bloody on his face. >> united ceo released a statement saying this is a upsetting event to all of us here at united. i apologize for having to reaccommodate these customers. our team is moving with a sense of urgency to work with authorities and conduct our own details review of what happened. the company also reached out to the passenger. nbc tom costello, just now confirming the name of the passenger. what else do we know? >> he is dr. david dao.
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a vietnamese american. we have some reporting to suggest that he had some issues in the past with law enforcement, but we are working to clarify all of that. i can tell you that, however, the statement you just read from oscar nunos, the ceo of united is what he said on twitter. what he said to the employees really got the internet bubbling over again. here is the letter he sent to employees last night. the situation was unfortunately compounded when one of the passengers we politely asked to deplane refused and it became necessary to contact chicago aviation security officers for help. while i deeply regret the situation arose, i also emphatically stand behind all of you, the employees, and i want to commend you for continuing to go above and beyond to ensure we fly right. he went on to say that he says
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they all really followed the normal established procedures, and one more note, those are not police officers, peter. we have now learned they are security guards, or security officers that united called on board to drag this man out. so they were not law enforcement. they were not operating under the law, or under the shield, the police shield. all of that is adding to the concern at thi hour. this has literally created a furry on social media, with it spreading in asia, worrying this man was profiled because he is of asian decent. there is videos before he was dragged off, showing his behavior before he was dragged off when he said we need you to get off, and he said i'm not, i can't, i have to go to louisville, i have to go to louisville, i'm a physician i
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need to see patients, and he said i'm not leaving. but he was not fighting at that point. he was firm, but he was not fighting them. and then this escalated. this has really taken on a whole new life of it's own. >> those images ricochetting around the globe now. tom costello, thank you very much. coming up, more from andrea mitchell reporting from moscow today. hope you'll stay with us, this is andrea mitchell reports. ♪ ♪ take on the mainstream. introducing nissan's new midnight edition.
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welcome back, north korea today dialled up their threats warning it would use nuclear weapons if the u.s. fleet keeps approaching. that fleet as a warning sign to north korea because of the nuclear tests and the ballistic missile tests among rising concerns they are preparing another nuclear test. >> i worry about the fact that april 15th is the birthday celebration of their founder, in north korea, and every time they have a celebration like that they tend to do something provocative. >> russia, today, also raising concerns about whether the u.s. would use military force against north korea. rex tillerson, secretary of state, said everything was on the table. joining me now is a former
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pentagon state department and national security council official in the administration of george w. bush. i wanted to ask you about russia. these are very worrying, alarming announcements out of the north, and we are seeing signs of the intelligence community that they are preparing another nuclear test? >> i would not be surprised to see them prepare another nuoouk lar test. dohink the are extraordinaril erratic. i can't tell if they're behavior is a reflection of strength that he has consolidated power or if it is a reflection of weakness. >> and was there anything that came out of the president's summit that indicates that china
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is willing to step up in any way. the president tweeting that if the president won't -- >> not show hour that is persuading president xi. >> it is a strong contrast in tone to what secretary tillerson said after the meeting with president xi, which is that we agreed we needed to have the denuclearization of the korean pe innocence la. >> at the same time secretary tillerson making more dr rex tiller son is turning out to be the toughest voice in the
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administration. this was a man that was awarded the friendship in moscow, quite a shift for the new secretary of state for his days as a chief executive of exxon mobile. >> it does, i thought i understand they were ramping up the isolation, with countries in the region, i verting their eyes from the issu. leaving bashir al assad in place, and acknowledging russian interest. dialing down the potential for conflict with the russians, and i agree with you. it looks like he is taking a
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much harder line. almost a with us or against us choice in a lot of the comments he is making about russia now after the strike on syria. >> he has been taking a hard line, nikki hailey has had a different line, and the president has been silent on all of this. kristen welker was questions sean spicer about the different messages and how confusing it seems to be. >> secretary dill tillerson -- hailey seems to align more, so who better reflects -- >> i don't think those are
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mutually exclusive statements. one is saying we don't see peace with him in charge, one is saying we need him gone, i think that is the point of both. >> the point they are trying to make is have him gone means the political process, frankly to what john ker ry was trying to get off of the ground. negotiations with russia. we don't know how they will deal with iran who was a major player on the ground, but it is not re sheem chan gime change. and now a new voice in this issue is eric trump. he suggested it was ivanka trump, who, seeing the effects of that horrific chemical attack influenced her father who was affected by that, that she is the mother of small children and
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had response to that. what signal does that say about her influence on her father? >> i think that would be a terrible sign if true. that the president could be encouraged by an emotional appeal to make a 180 departure from his feelings on syria. if his policy can be redirected that way, that encourages all sorts of behavior on the part of actors in this administration. if it is true, it would diminish from the structured voices in the administration like the secretary of defense and the national security advisor. >> a former military national security advisor in the george
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w. bush administration. now let's go back to peter alexander in washington. >> thank you, it is election day in kansas. the republican candidate for congress getting a big boost from president trump. what is on the line in wichita. not just there, but frankly for the president himself? that is next here on andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. it is time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. danielle romanetti will never sell online. she doesn't want to process weapon orders, she wants to connect with her customers in the store. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job,
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back now in washington, you're watching "andrea mitchell reports." in kansas, voters are going to the polls today to vote to fill a seat that was vacated by mike p pompeo. the democratic challengers in striking disnce of carrying the seat that has been held by republicans for more than two decades. jacob is tracking the latest developments. i have been tracking your conversations with voters are today, what have they been telling you, how close is this election expected to be? >> the republicans that we talked to who voted for the republican insist that nothing
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will change in this election that happened in the last 20 years. it will be republican, that's just the way that they do things. those who voted for the democrat say that for the first time in awhile they believe their candidate in this case, jim thompson, a political newcomer, has a shot. i did meet a couple people who didn't fit that description. one person who voted for president trump but who is unhappy with his performance for a number of reasons, and decided that kansas needed a change. a woman who votes democrat, but her husband who always votes republican and cancels her out didn't show. . many people say this is how we vote in kansas, we vote republican and this is how it will work out. even if the democrat comes close b i think that is intriguing.
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you had mike menace come out with a robo call. ted cruz with an 11th hour rally been all of this to m sure he wins big. >> the president keeping a close eye on this election, tweeting, his megatone. ron estes is running today for congress in the great state of kansas. he also recorded a robo call in support of the candidate. here it is. we're going to do things really great for our country. our country needs help, ron is going to be helping us big league. but i need republicans like ron estes to help me get the job done. this is an important election, there is really very much more
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important. president trump doing what he loves most, back on the campaig jonathan capehart opinion righter. it's likely the republicans will end up holding on to the kansas steets. all eyes are on another special election, this one in georgia for tom price's seat. the new health secretary. it's the sixth district. this has long been held by republicans. the democrat there has raised more than $8 million, a lot of money being poured in from outside. democrats are viewing this as a potential referendum on the president right now. this really could give us some "newswee unique insights into how the parties are fairing in the early trump era, couldn't it? >> it could. it's the first test of the so-called resistance movement and democrats are claiming a real surge in energy in both of these district, particularly in georgia, which seems like a closer race than the one in
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kansas. but if turnout is high, if a lot of democrats come to the polls and really there's sort of an activist wave of momentum there it could signal something not only right now about the president's standing but about the tide heading into the midterm elections next year in 20018 when control of the senate potentially could be up for grabs for democrats. >> you talk about that tide. there are a lot of republicans running into it head-on as they head home for their recess back home facing constituents, places like florida where ted yoho, the congressman, jonathan as i bring you in, is facing a rowdy crowd at one of the town hauls. here are some of the more interesting exchanges. take a listen. >> i don't believe the federal government should have a role in providing health care for everybody. i understand that. my job is to defend the second amendment. i am not going to support planned parenthood. this is not about women's
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health. [ inaudible ]. >> no. no. >> so that town hall last night, ted yoho likely safe, not somebody who needs to worry about his seat but you've been speaking to some democratic members who said in this new environment she kind of feels like a political therapist when she goes home and speaks to her constituents. what is she saying and you hearing from lawmakers right now? >> what we saw in that tape is a member of congress from a safe district facing basically an unsafe audience, meaning democrats and people who are really upset about what the white house is doing. what congresswoman bass of california from los angeles was telling me is that yeah, she feels like a political therapist because, you know, she's also from a particularly safe seat, but from the democratic side, and she's got a lot of democrats coming to her town hall forums who want to know what should they do. one of the things she said to me was, she loves the q&a because
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theye not qs, they're not questions, they're little speeches. people want to -- >> declarative. >> they want to get things off their chest and so once they get things off their chest they want to know what do we do. >> the question as much as anything, does this translate ultimately into votes in 2018 or actually as it turns out in places like kansas and georgia in the course of the next week or so right now? i want to get your take as we watch what's going on overseas with rex tillerson making this trip. it's not so much that it's mixed messages as often it's sort of a lack of a coherent message right now. what is the potential risk of that when sean spicer may say barrel bombs or chemical weapons, we reserve the right to strike and clarify and say our posture has not changed? >> well, one of the big problems is no one really knows what to expect out of this white house. now the white house will say, that's a great thing, keep -- unpredictability will keep people on their toes. but the opposite could happen. as my colleague michael gerson says in his column today in "the
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washington post," that people take sometimes will take unpredictability as license to push the united states to see how far, how much can we get away with and that's a situation we could be in now where you've got the u.n. ambassador saying one thing, the secretary of state saying another thing, the white house press secretary saying something else and then who knows, the president could tweet something completely different. >> yeah. the irony is they may be decisive in that initial strike, there appears to be indecision in terms of what they plan to do going forward. nice to see you. >> i appreciate it. >> coming up next here, we will take you to andrea mitchell reporting today live from moscow, a look at what is on tap for rex tillerson's next 24 hours in russia as he prepares to meet with that country's foreign minister. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. boost. it's about moving forward, not back. it's looking up, not down.
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take you back to moscow where andrea has final thoughts on what we can expect from secretary tillerson's meetings less than 24 hours away. andrea? >> and tomorrow he is going to be meeting with his counterpart, with sergey lavrov, who is a tough customer. he gave hillary clinton a hard time and gave john kerry a hard time over the years and now it's the first test of rex tillerson who in the past came here as a very big deal, an oil executive, who's doing business with
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vladimir putin. now he's coming as a critic, as probably the guy taking the toughest line against russia over this attack, and while i've been on the air, white house officials have been briefing on the phone, we were listening in as well, they are citing the evidence now, they say that this is evidence that it was likely sarin gas, a chemical attack, could have only been launched by the syrians and that certainly the russians were at that same air base. a lot of questions tillerson will be raising tomorrow and we will have all of it here from moscow, thanks of course to my colleague, my partner, peter alexander in washington, and this special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" our two days in russia covering secretary tillerson. live from moscow tomorrow. stay with us, follow us on facebook and on twitter @mitchellreports. craig melvin is up next. right here on msnbc. >> all right.
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andrea, don't you go too far. good afternoon. craig melvin live in washington, d.c., on another busy tuesday. happening right now, rex tillerson to russia, choose. a stern warning from the secretary of state as he lands in moscow. will russia respond to that ultimatum siding with the u.s. or syria? also, this afternoon, help wanted, hundreds of top white house jobs are still unfilled. why and what that means for achieving president trump's agenda. plus, big league effort, the president lending his voice to the effort to get kansas republicans to the polls for a special election today. will he help or hurt the cause? all of this as we wait on today's white house press briefing moments away which we will bring to you live when it happens. we start with secretary of state rex tillerson in moscow. the secretary landing there just a short time ago with one mission, help convince vladimir putin that it
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