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it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is, a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like russia. in january of this year, our intelligence community determined that russian military swell jens, the gru, had used wikileaks to release data against the democratic national committee. and the report also found that russia's primary propaganda outlet, rt has actively collaborated with wikileaks.

>> welcome back to "the 11th hour." that was the new cia director mike pompeo with strong words about wikileaks and sounding different than his boss did on that same topic when he was still a candidate. >> russia, if you are listen, i hope you are able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. all you have to do is take a look at wikileak. this just came out. this just take out. wikileaks. i love wikileaks. amazing how nothing is secret today when you talk about the internet. welcome backy leaks. wuky leaks. they have got to start talking about wikileaks. the wonder of wikileaks. oh, we love wikileaks. boy, they have really -- wikileaks. they have revealed a lot. wikileaks. wikileaks. that came out on wikileaks. >> also tonight on the russia front the british newspaper the guardian is reporting it was british spies who told u.s. intelligence officials about

contacts between donald trump's campaign team and russian intelligence operatives. that started in late 2015. this all comes on the heels of the news that former trump campaign chairman paul manafort will be registering with the justice department as a foreign agent. that is apparently linked to work he did for pro-russian politicians in ukraine. our panel remains with us, robert cogsa, catherinest lucy, rick stengel. rebound costa, on wikileaks, it sounds so much like the narrative -- your newspaper has a headline wondering if trump has become a conventional republican. this move to make him more establishment, more mainstream, even if it's his -- the people he picked out who are doing it. >> it is such a contrast we are watching in the early months this presidency, compared to the trump we saw on the campaign trail, who revelled in intelligence information, sometimes private information resbeeld by wikileaks.

this was an organization that was looked down upon by the u.s. government, was seen as rating in a negative way, revealing too much information that was inappropriate, perhaps each classified. now as president he is running the federal government and he is in a different position with his officials striking a different tone. >> catherine, when you hear that he brought no members of his senior staff with him to florida -- and we have a lon weekend here and you see what you see going none the west wing, what do you think is going on inside. >> well, obviously, he's down there, and his staff, we assume will continue to be working over the weekend. obviously, he can be in touch with folks as he needs to be. but i'd be surprised if we don't hear from him some over the weekend just knowing the president and knowing how he likes to communicate directly with folk over twitter. it's certainly likely we will be hearing from him more. >> rick stengel, what do you make all of this? wikileak and russia kinds of got

normalized in that weird period of months we have just lived through. normalizing them back again. making sure people see them as arms of whatever organizations or states they are arms of. that's going to take some doing. >> well, i have to say i thought it was bold and strong what the cia director said about wikileaks. i could not agree more. they are a dangerous transgressive organization that has been in could hoots with russia. president trump's embrace of them is something which is discouraging and sad, to use his term and now that i've been in government, i really see the damage that they have done. the most recent release affected an area that i work with about the migration of isis off of non-encrypted platforms to encrypted platforms and the revelations about what he know about how to get inside encrypted platforms. very, very, very, very damaging information. >> how do you create state craft in the era of wikileaks?

>> you can't. and the other thing brian, just to call folks out. i mean mainstream news organizations also cooperated with wikileaks during the different revelations. i never did at the time. but they printed stories based on what is stolen illegal information. >> robert costa it's been what, 84 days. i don't think even the most generous reading of this administration would be anything to fear an establishment administration or an establishment president or presidency. what would your lead be if you had to sum it up tonight? if it was the last piece you were going to write for a while, if we were going to time cap actual this and freeze it in time. what kind of presidency is this as of day 84? >> i can see it right now, brian, a defyian white house,

comma, a skittish republican party. this is the white house that has the same bravado as the president and the sources there as you would expect are saying that kind thing. but this is a republican party on capitol hill that i cover closely that's nervous. they look ahead to 2018, this close race in kansas for a special house election, special house election coming up in georgia next tuesday where the democrat is ahead. they say to themselves the major thing that's happened on capitol hill with trump is neil gorsuch being confirmed for the supreme court. but no major legislation has come through and they just wonder as they look at the president's polls can this be sustained? can the party keep its majorities? they don't really share the defiance that's over there on pennsylvania sneef everybody stand by. we will hear from a member of congress. then we will have you all back. the panel sticking here. coming up, the bomb on ice. the threat of north korea. we'll be joined by a member of

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ask your hep c specialist about harvoni. welcome back to "the 11th hour." joining our conversation live tonight is congressman john gare mendia, a democrat from california who represents the district between san francisco and sacramento. and importantly for terms of our conversation on the sits on the house armed services committee. congressman, let's begin -- we have got to take these in terms of importance. in north korea, which represents a real and present, it seems to me, danger to life here in this country and in other places. the last "associated press" breaking news is north korea's vice foreign minister says president trump is quote making trouble with, quote, aggressive tweets. what do you make this situation and how the united states should proceed? >> it is extremely dangerous.

extremely dangerous. north korea is not just another country. north korea has one of the largest armies in the recalled would. they are prepared for war, have been. as is south korea, as is the united states. got to be really, really careful here about what you say, where you are deploying forces because you don't know how north korea is going to respond. they may very well do a nuclear test. now, what is trump going to do? the card has been played. how will he play his card? we could wind up in an extremely dangerous and a horrible war situation by a mistake that could be made here. and we need to keep in mind what trump has shown us in the 18, 20 months of his campaign. he showed that he is bombastic, that he is profane, that he is a bully. now he is bullying, or attempting, perhaps, to bully north korea. i'd be careful, really careful, very careful here because this

is extremely dangerous. >> you are an ormed services. and mccaffery said in his view we should switch our priority to defense. and that is protecting seattle, l.a., your district, all our population centers within range of whatever municipal anything they come up with next, protecting our people and places from stuff that may already be aloft and launched. >> well, it won't be a missile. that's not going to happen in the near term. they do not have an intercontinental missile that can reach the united states. certainly they can reach japan, guam, and the air in the western pacific. however, there are other ways of delivering a nuclear bomb. put it on a fishing boat and end up in any port around the world. we need to be very, very cautious here. it is an extremely bad situation. we have to put every method we can short of going to war on the korean peninsula once again to

put north korea out of the nuclear weapons business. china is a major and critical part of doing that. as is russia. so we need to assemble the power the world, put all of that pressure on north korea, and move them away from being a nuclear weapons -- a nuclear weapons nation. three administrations have tried to do this, have not succeeded. will this administration succeed? we certainly hope so. but at the same time be careful about drawing a red line that may draw us into a major conflict on the korean peninsula. as has been said many times in this evening when the president was on the campaign trail, he was saying, i will blank and bomb them, blank, blank. so what is north korea hearing? they are hearing the rhetoric of the campaign. and frankly, it has not

diminished. he has sent a major, as he called it, armada, which is not a particularly good term because i think the spanish armada didn't do too well. in any case, it is provocative. and will it cause north korea to back down? probably not by itself. but in the context of china, russia, and others, all of those cuss, including ours, putting pressure on them, moving tm away from the nuclear weapons. we've got to do that. at the same time, we've got plenty of problems in syria, the middle east, and afghanistan. it has been 16 years since the united states congress has visited the issue of peace or war in afghanistan. the authorization to use military force in afghanistan is now 16 years old. and we need to go back, as members of congress, carry out our constitutional responsibilities, and decide whether and how we are going to continue that war. to that end, a republican,

walter jones, and i have introduced legislation that would effectively cause congress to once again deal with this issue of the afghanistan authorization to use military force, which is the legal argument that is being used to deal with isis in syria. that's a long stretch. but nonetheless, that is the legal argument that the obama administration used and this administration also. so congress has to engage here. we need to ask the generals, hey, president trump said develop a plan within 30 days of destroying isis. what is that plan? not necessarily the war plans, but what is the deployment of troops? how much money do you need? what kind of weapons do you need? and how are you going to use the soft power, the soft power of the united states, the state department, and all the rest. complex, but we've got to get to it and congress has to play its

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what is your position on all weekend trips that the president makes? >> with regard to presidents and what they do on the weekend, i'm not going to criticize presidents. >> a packed and rowdy town hall in arizona tonight. that was republican senator jeff flake up for reelection next year and is considered a vulnerable gop seat. robert, katherine and rick remain with us. robert costa, i have always

wondered, people running for office want the public to come to big events, to town hall events, come out and help them win election and be part of the crowd. why is it when they get in office they are not all that interested? many of them won't do what senator flake is doing tonight. they won't have town hall meetings. and when they do too many of them complain about organized agitators shutting it down. >> as a reporter there is nothing better sometimes than covering a town hall meeting but so often these lawmakers you don't get to see them in the flesh to see them interact. this flake town hall is fascinating because if there is any senator who irked the president during the campaign it was senator flake. my reporting tells me the president would criticize flake and now flake finds himself

having to defend the trump administration. >> katherine, in the modern era you think of a guy like jerry ford, came from the house of representatives where he was a giant representing his district out in grand rapids and so many thoughts and deeds every day were kind of party minded. he thought like a legislator and a local party guy. there is none of that now. what can donald trump start giving these gop men and women to run on and defend their seats with? >> well, it's a good question and it is complicated because donald trump is not a traditional republican even though he won the republican nomination and went on to run with all these members. so some of them you have to make different choices about whether they run on what the white house is doing, whether they try to go it alone and depends a lot of these races do vary by district but obviously a mid term

election can tend to be a referendum on the president and the work of the president and congress. i think we will really see how voters feel about that. >> if you sent president trump out to campaign for folks when air force one touches down, is that these days a help or a hindrance, an asset or liability? >> i sppt uspect it is a liabil when presidents have gigantic motorcades i always thought this imperial presidency is not something that the american people like. looking at senator flake's town hall some of these guys have to triangulate between trump and conservative republicans. he is a perfect example of it. that is a really tricky situation. it's not just between republicans and democrats because trump is not a typical republican and the people who

support him come from all different kinds of back grounds. it's really tricky. >> as you look back at it did the speaker of the house take a political bullet in not allowing that health care measure with 17% popularity even before the rewrite come up for an actual vote? the members who did stick their necks out and say i will support it are catching all kinds of flack back home. >> the speaker knew the political dynamic would be disastrous potentially for some of his members. whenever a bill is suspected to fail on the floor as a congressional reporter i can tell you a lot of people start pulling away from the bill, the support moves away and ryan knew that and the speaker said i don't want people to be part of supporting a bill that is likely to fall apart in the senate or never pass the house so he asked to pull legislation. the president keeps trying to

revive it. it is an active issue. >> please note something very important as we look at live pictures from mesa, arizona. people are behaving themselves. they are being civil and polite. there was a chicken suit in the front row but they had been given green pieces of paper to identify themselves if they have a question. they are showing better behavior candidly than they see out of washington in a lot of people. senator jeff flake hoping to get reelected there in arizona. great thanks to our thursday night panel. robert costa, katherine lucy, rick stengal. thank you for coming and for sharing your work with us. when the 11th hour continues the surprising number, the percentage of the trump presidency spent thus far at his florida resort.

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florida resort. by one estimate these trips are costing taxpayers 3 million bucks a throw. not helping the optics was the second blue and white air force jet today arriving at the same time and carrying the first lady to florida from new york where she lives with their son. that is our broadcast on the thursday night. thank you for being here with us and good night from new york. there is a lot going on tonight. we have a story out of arkansas that you may think you have heard about but you really haven't heard about it. it'll curl your hair. we have the attorney general of the united states making news for all the wrong reasons, making news that he is not intending to make. we have knows stories and more coming up tonight.