day march as protesters demand president trump release his tax returns. marchers are taking place in 150 cities across the country. president trump is the first u.s. president since richard nixon not to release those tax returns. he claims his taxes are under audit and that no one cares about them. a new bloomberg poll suggests otherwise. 53% of voters say he should be forced and 51% say they are very or somewhat important to them. in berkeley, california, there's a face-off between supporters and detractors. police showing up in riot gear with fetear gas. reporters are on the ground following all of the action. i want to start in new york morgan radford is live.

do you think these protesters are making an impact on him? >> reporter: yasmin, you can just hear and feel the energy. we're right outside 30 rockefeller plaza. you can just see people young and old and their message today is that this is tax season. we have to file our taxes so you, as the president, president trump, should have to show yours. i want to introduce you here to jody. why do you think this is so important? >> i want to see trump's taxes. i want to know who he wants for and who he owes money to. >> jody is here and chris is also out here. you've been out here for a couple hours now, am i right? >> yep. >> reporter: why do you think it's so important to show his taxes? >> because we need to know his financial background and any ties he has to foreign entities. he needs to be transparent. >> reporter: what do you hope all of this does?

do you really want to see the tax forms or is this symbolic? >> i hope he knows that his city is out here seeing transparency and as a new yorker i hope he complies with that. >> reporter: we've seen actress debra messing and other actors. we demand that you are accountable, they say. as a public leader, you are required to show your contribution to our country. so this has been organized by six different organizations who have all come together and they say this is in the name of transparency. yasmin? >> there's a lot of people out there so you can't hear what i'm saying, but continue the work that you're doing because you're doing a fantastic job, morgan. talk to you in a little bit. we turn now to washington, d.c., where protesters are calling for president trump to release his tax returns coming

from that city. ali is live with the latest. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, right now we are moving towards the white house which you can see on my right. a lot of protesters are people who want to see donald trump's tax returns, something he did not release during the campaign and that is, again, a break with precedent. for decades, presidents have released their tax returns to give voters a sense of their past. this is becoming notable not just because it's tax day now but because of a policy in the next coming months. i think people are wondering what are his interests and what

has it been monetarily in the past. people are here not just because of the tax returns but because they want to hear more not only about his trarns parn snsparenc something that came down yesterday is another show to these protesters that transparency may not be the top priority for this administration. so that's something that they'll have to contend with in the next few months as we continue going down this road. >> ali, we're used to hearing from president trump over this kind of thing. do protesters believe that he will be responding in kind to these protests or is this more of a show of this is what we believe whether he's going to respond or not? >> reporter: you know, i think is similar form to the way it was with the women's march, they are not there so much because they expect actual change to

come. they want to show this is their way of protesting what they don't like about the trump administration. folks i've talked to say i don't think this is going to make him release his tax returns. i remember asking multiple advisers during the campaign and now, do you think we'll see his tax returns? and they still maintain there under audit and they are not going to release them. kellyanne conway said we won without releasing our tax returns. people don't care. these people care. a lot of their signs reference her comments on that. but i don't think that they are here thinking this is going to spur legislative change from the white house. >> that's what is the most interesting. the white house says people don't care and yet there are these protests and marches and people do care. ali, i saw some warm pretzels go by you. >> reporter: i'm going to get those. definitely. they are on their way to you.

>> perfect. now we're live in portland, oregon, where a rally will take place at the top of the hour. katie beck is there. tell us about the turnout, what you're seeing and what the protesters are saying to you. >> reporter: well, the turnout is just about to happen here. it's an hour before the rally starts. people are gathering here in the plaza and downtown portland. they are going to take a mile walk around the downtown area, the same route that they took for the women's march. people are trickling in, many with signs that say tell us who you work for and show us your taxes. two of the marchers are carl and mary. you say you took an interest after the campaign. >> the statement that infuriated me the most probably in the campaign is when he said i'm smart, i don't pay taxes. and i've paid taxes for 50 years

so i thought that was terrible for a presidential candidate. i want to see his taxes. >> do you think this message is resonating all the way to washington? there are 150 or so different rallies today. what do you think this is accomplishing? >> i don't know if he'll pay attention but i want a lot of people saying show us your taxes. >> reporter: and you echo that as well? you're interested in the conflict of interest part of this? >> i'm interested in foreign policy and i think we as the american people need to know if there's conflicts and promises made that we're not aware of. this really worries me. >> do you think the show of folks that will gather here today, they are expecting thousands, demonstrates in some way that people care about this issue, despite what the administration might say? >> reporter: absolutely. when the campaign was over, he said, well now i don't need to show my taxes but, yes, he still

does. it absolutely means he has to show his taxes. >> thank you for joining us and sharing your thoughts. >> i just want to know, looking forward, since it's tax season, trump is promising tax reform. can you ask them one thing that they'd like to see if trump's tax reform plan? >> reporter: sure. the question that was asked of me to ask you guys is what would you like to see in the future in terms of tax reform, in terms of trump's plan. is that something that you've given thought to? >> in terms of tax reform, i don't want him to cut essential programs to fund the military or fund the wall in mexico. those are critical and we feed to have the epa funded and schools funded and education

funded. that expands the nation and doesn't tear us apart. >> our senator ron wyden has sponsored a bill, tax transparency as transparency act of 2016. we'd like to see that pass. >> so transparency and accountability across the board but tax policy is obviously important to folks as well. guys, back to you. >> katie, thank you so much. up next, a show of strength. north korea showing off a prototype of its new long-range missiles. what could the country do with these new weapons? a major question and we'll try to get that answered. we'll be right back.

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i want to turn now to the latest out of north korea with the tensions rising between pyongyang. it's approaching 4:00 a.m. where earlier saturday the nation held a massive military parade showing off the arsenal of missiles. the event marked the anniversary of kim il-sung. it comes amid growing concerns that north korea will carry out a nuclear test which could trigger a pre-emptive strike by the united states. all of this happening while mike pence heads to south korea for the start of his long-planned 11 day asia pacific trip. janice is live from seoul. >> reporter: yasmin, with tensions extremely high here, there was a massive parade of missiles and military hardware on display in pyongyang. the regime had promised a big event to mark this important date on the calendar and it delivered. experts believe they saw at least one, perhaps as many as three new types of

intercontinental ballistic missiles. kim jong-un has threatened this weaponry will one day be capable of reaching the united states. kim was there, delighted with the show and backing the regime's latest threat that the u.s. faces all-out war and annihilation if north korea is attacked. now, this tension has escalated over a number of weeks with speculation that north korea was about to carry out a sixth nuclear test. the distinction is the role of china. china is emerging as a broker, being an ally of north korea and also the country's main economic lifeline. china wants both sides to back down and move more toward talks before things spiral out of control. now, neither side at this point is willing to do so and the risk, of course, is that a small mistake could lead to terrible consequences. yasmin? >> janice mackey there for us.

president trump monitoring the situation in north korea from his florida resort this holiday weekend. it marks the 7th of 13 weeks in office he's spent in florida. kelly o'donnell is in west palm beach for us. the president, have you heard any sort of reaction after the show of force from north korea? >> reporter: the honest answer is no we have not. the white house has not put out any statements and has not issued any tweets. there's been no response from senior officials about how things have been playing out in north korea. it is notably quiet that may be part of the strategy, that may be part of an easter holiday weekend. the president left his mar-a-lago home and went to trump international golf course. we presume he was golfing but even that, the white house aides will not confirm. we've seen president trump take action on foreign policy matters and military issues with syria and afghanistan. a lot of the focus will now be

on vice president pence who is in the air headed toward seoul, south korea. a planned trip that just happens to coincide with volatile world circumstances where the vice president can do some direct communication with allies in asia to talk about strategy related to north korea, to try to reassure them of the u.s. support. that kind of thing. but honestly, it's a beautiful palm beach day and it seems the president has been enjoying some time off. having said that, his facilities here do include secure communications with the white house, with the pentagon as needed and he does have national security council staff with him here but not the senior staff that we have come to expect on many of his weekends away, not the chief of staff, not the senior strategist, that kind of thing. the president with his family here celebrating the easter holiday. yasmin? >> kelly o'donnell for us, thank you. i want to turn to gordon chang.

thank you for joining me. very much appreciate it. the show of missiles earlier today, at this parade, something that was a prototype, what's the worst case scenario, a prototype of a long-range missile. is it real? do you know? gordon, is it real and what's worst case scenario? >> we don't know if it was real but it was carried in a canister and the chinese carry a df-31 missile. it has multiple warheads and maybe the north koreans have it. the worst case is they have what the chinese have. at this point, we can assume they are probably not as far advanced as beijing is. >> but getting something from china, where are they getting it from? >> that's a possibility. the missiles that was launched on august 24 and february 12 look strikingly like south ko a

korea -- like china's jo-1. the north koreans could have gotten it from a third country or we don't know. but the point is we need to start asking some questions of beijing because if the north koreans are getting ballistic missile help, they're going to be able to target the u.s. much sooner than they think. >> where could this hit us? how far could these actually get, these missiles if they happen. >> north korea, i think, have three missiles that can actually hit the lower 48 states at this time. they either haven't been tested at full range or not tested at all but they are based on proven technology. they probably do work. the one thing they can't do is to make a nuclear warhead to them. but that's a matter of i think maybe four years, maybe a little more, maybe a little less. they can make a nuke to their intermediate range which can hit japan. they know what to do. they just need time to develop

heat shielding for their longest range missiles. >> you've said off camera this could feasibly hit the lower 48. >> the new one, yes. it could probably reach someplace like seattle or so. we just don't know. at this point, we've got to be concerned that they are making much more progress than we've given them credit for. >> what would north korea want from the u.s. in order to de-escalate? >> north korea wants deterrence. it's unlikely that kim jong-un would give us his nuclears and missiles. but north korea is more than just kim jong-un. the regime is about 300 or so people. the one thing that china or the united states could do is to buy off the rest of the regime to force kim jong-un to do what he doesn't want to do and that's the mission for u.s. foreign policy, it's extremely tricky and dangerous. >> a lot of indication is pointing towards the fact that

china is cooperating with the united states when it comes to north korea. do you buy it? >> i buy it for now. in the past, we've seen these bursts of cooperation with us and when we are distracted and look at something else, china goes back to its old ways of doing things. it's really up to us to keep the pressure on china and if china decides to go back to the old way of doing things, we need to start imposing costs on beijing for unacceptable behavior. >> real quickly, the announcement of vice president mike pence's trip to south korea, did that sort of undermine president trump's tre threats that if you test this missile, we will strike back? >> and also going to mar-a-lago without his senior national security staff or even going to mar a logo at all. i think what pence is doing is trying to reassure allies. in a sense, it's not undermining what trump has been saying but the north koreans could easily view it that way. they look at the world very differently than we do. >> they may be sitting there

thinking he's not going to do it. >> yeah, this is not a crisis. and i hope it's not a crisis. the point is, the north koreans do look at things quite differently. >> gordon chang, thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. the options president trump has and whether his military strike in syria offers any insight into his next course of action. ♪ ♪ after becoming one of the largest broadband companies in the country. after expanding our fiber network coast to coast.

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president in recent history has pulled the trigger on north korea. >> thank you for joining me, molly. it's now sunday in north korea. we have the military march and no tests recall performed. you think crisis averted here, molly? >> it seems like crisis averted. probably trying to smooth over ruffled feathers over concerns about what's going on with the saber rattling. it seems like a positive step that there were no nuclear tests, especially in light of the rhetoric on both sides. >> mike pence is south korea now, they have to get their approval before moving forward. >> this is true. south korea is facing a presidential election in three

weeks. they have a lot of political instability now and they have said you can't go rogue here, united states. you have to consult us first. let's also keep in mind that what the trump administration has been doing is telling china you need to do something about this. china has preliminarily changed its behavior and indicated for the first time that they are willing to consider suspension of oil shipments into north korea if north korea continues to test either nukes or icbms going forward. that's a difference in behavior we haven't seen for a while. >> my question to you is how long are they going to suspend that and are they having any conversations we don't know about? >> we don't know how long it's going to last but everyone from

moscow and everywhere else doesn't know how to deal with washington. they are treating donald trump like an unstable actor which, again, is terrifying in the context of north korea but also making other regimes change their behavior and give sort of wider birth of activity. >> molly, matt just called him an unstable actor. i'm going to use a different word. >> okay. >> do you think president trump's sort of unpredictability when it comes to foreign policy and his use of words, how is that going to affect this whole situation with north korea, the tough talk that he's had so far? >> the thing is, if you look at tough talk, look at north korea. kim jong-il says a lot of tough things. i'll say tough instead of what i'd like to say. and so does trump. at the same time, we have china over here the same time that the president of china was meeting with trump. what does trump do? he launches the tomahawk missile attack in syria and put actions

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>> we don't want the president to be making decisions where he thinks more bombs are the way to build up his popularity but rather making decisions based on the national security interests of the united states. >> he makes a point there. could we see a more aggressive president trump because he sees an uptick in his approval ratings? >> there's another way of answering that question. the last four presidents, including trump, ran as compa comparative humble foreign policy. they all ran that way, won that way and then became more interventionist and then were given a positive feedback loop with the elite media class and all of the television networks as well. >> oh, you're blaming us. okay. always blaming us. >> no. the -- 83% of u.s. newspapers editorialized 59 tomahawks on an

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looking at live pictures from berkeley, california, from what we understand what's being reported, there seems to be some sort of squirmish happening between pro and anti-trump protesters there. i believe they are using dumpsters as weapons with one another. we have reports of tear gas being used along with police in

riot gear. we don't know but we know these are pro and anti-trump -- it's actually not a tax day protest, from what i understand, from what i've been told they are clashing over their difference in opinion over the way this country is currently being run. all right. i'm yasmin vossoughian here in new york and here's a look at the headlines. thousands of protesters hitting pavement to release trump's tax returns. these are the largest protests since the women's march after the inauguration. an explosion in syria. at least 100 people were killed in a blast near evacuation buses outside this city. and it only took about five seconds for president trump this week to bottom line his new

thinking on russia. take a listen. >> right now we're not getting along with russia at all. we may be at an all-time low. >> and just like that, the president who has predicted that russia and the u.s. could team up to solve the world's problems is now suggesting the cold war is back and frostier than ever. secretary of state tillerson's meeting in moscow ended with tillerson telling reporters that the world's two foremost nuclear powers cannot have this kind of relationship. one of the biggest divides is over syria. russia is warning the u.s. not to launch any new strikes against syria after last week's chemical attack, an attack that the russian foreign minister suggests is not caused by bashar al assad. assad denied what much of the world believes to be true earlier this week. >> there is no order to make any attack. we don't have any chemical weapons. we gave up our arsenal as few years ago.

even if we have them, we wouldn't use them and we have never used our chemical arsenal in our history. >> and as all of that unfolds, there's a matter of russia's possible ties to the trump team during the election. the fbi obtained a secret fisa warrant to monitor carter page. he met with a putin confidant last summer, according to a dossier. page denies the meeting and has not been accused of a crime. a former u.s. ambassador to nato is joining me and also molly mchugh. she's now a foreign policy adviser. did rex tillerson's meeting with putin accomplish anything, from your perspective? >> absolutely. i think it was very important for him to go in there from a position of strength and to tell russia that some of the things

that it's been doing has gone too far. we want to work with russia, as the president has said, but that depends on russia's actions and we're at this low point now because of what russia has done even since trump was elected president. showing up there, having just had the bombing in syria, sanctions in ukraine, those things are important to set a baseline. nothing was achieved and concrete at the meeting but i think it resets with russia a more mature relationship where one won't feel like it has a green light to do whatever it wants. >> the president reversed and said nato is no longer obsolete. >> uh-huh. >> what does it tell but president trump in that he's saying that on the one hand. does that indicate that he might even be moving away from russia more? >> no. i think there was strong support for nato all along. he talked about allies needing

to pay their bills and when chance la merkel was here talking about spending gdp on defense. he's also talked about strong support for nato. vice president pence delivered that message at the munich security conference in february. tillerson and mattis have done at so at nato's headquarters. it's important to have a strong position from which to talk with russia and try to work on things together. being in a week position would be far worse because that would give russia the enticement to do what it did in ukraine or georgia eight years ago. >> molly, when the president says we may be at an all-time low with russia, it's hard to think back to times of the cuban missile crisis. >> i think there's maybe two factors there. one, probably first and

foremost, if you look at the coverage coming out of the tillerson visit from the russian side, it's very different than what was coming out of the american side. this requires russia to have a better relationship with us and we haven't seen any signs of this during the entire period where they have professed hope that president trump would have a renewed approach to russia. there's been active fighting in eastern ukraine and active fighting in syria. there's been a press forward in libya. there's been the continued deployment of new russian assets towards western europe. this is not really the signs of somebody looking for a renewed, hopeful relationship and i think the other part of that is that, you know, kurt very well said that we're coming in from a position of strength for the first time in a long time but strength requires strategy and bombs are not a strategy and i think everyone seems fairly clear on the fact that behind this week's military actions, there is not much guidance on what this looks like in any sort

of end game and we still don't have a strategy on dealing with russia and the many wars it's fighting against in many places of the world. you heard russia say it has a sophisticated campaign of subversion against america and he's right and this is something that we're not yet confronting in great detail and we need a strategy against it. >> there's certainly much more to talk about with this but i have to go. kirk, molly, thank you for joining me. up next, what the resignation of alabama's governor this past week tells us about a major divide within the conservative christian movement. and more on the fight between jeff sessions and sanctuary cities. are allergies holding you back?

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i guess we weren't able to hear that sound. but robert bentley pleaded guilty of a sex scandal. he was a former baptist deacon. many were disappointed when news of his alleged affair broke. others were willing to give him a pass arguing it's more about what you believe rather than what you do. joining us to discuss this, the conservative christian divide, sarah posner. thank you for joining me. this story interested me because of a "new york times" article that i came upon. there was a quote that i want to read to you. it said, "it had become clear that for conservative christians, the cultural and political issues that define modern conservative politics mattered at least as much as moral piety" and "if you're

sound on all of the fundamentals" and that they are being pro life and anti-marriage equality. sarah, what's your reaction to that? >> i think that this bentley scandal has been taken largely with a big yawn. i think that conservative christians, as much as they talk about wanting their politicians to be straight and narrow, bible-believing monogamous, the fact that 81% of white evangelicals voted for donald trump, they don't care as much about that. they voted for donald trump knowing he's been married three times and he was an admitted philanderer. for a lot of christian conservatives involved in politics, the transactional relationship that they have with the politician is more important. so when you look at their relationship with trump, he's promised and delivered on a lot of things that are important to them, like judicial nominations

and defunding planned parenthood and scaling back president obama's directive on trans students using bathrooms in different schools. the list goes on and on and on. i think those things have been proven to be more important and i think that, you know, they are kind of used to politicians being -- they are used to republican politicians being unfaithful to their wives and they tend to look at that as, well, man has fallen and let's move on to the next thing. >> well, what about that red line that is often drawn by conservative christians that say so long as you're for being pro life and anti-marriage equality, i'm going to vote for you because it's about the supreme court vote. is there a divide between the younger christians that are, quite frankly, voting democrat

more often? >> well, i think you have to distinguish between white evangelicals who are one of the most homogenous in terms of their religious beliefs. they're overwhelmingly republican and vote overwhelmingly republican. that's a small part of them that vote for the democratic party. they have a different outlook from more liberal chiristians. so you know, among evangelicals, i don't think there's a divide. they tend to be very conservative and are going to vote on that abortion issue. they are going to vote on these religious liberty issues, which is the new way that they are casting lgbt issues. so i think that the divide --

like, there was a divide among them over trump, which had a lot to do with trump himself. >> in a way, maybe president trump was -- then president-elect trump -- or candidate trump at the time was a polarizing figure because of the man he was versus the party that he stood for. >> right. more him rather than these ideas. >> i could talk about this forever but we have to go, sarah. thank you for joining me. >> thanks, yasmin. here's a look at issues upon which president trump has changed his tune since moving into the white house but will his flip-flopping have any political consequences? a look at that question after this break. that college experience that i had. the classes, the friends, the independence. and since we planned for it, that student debt is the one experience, i'm glad she'll miss

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that was then, this is now. that seemed to be the motto of the president this week whose shifts on foreign policy created a west wing whiplash.

trump reversing court starting with china. >> i'm going to instruct my treasury secretary to labeli china a currency manipulator. but he says now that they are not currency manipulators. then came his reversal on nato. >> it's obsolete and we're paying too much money. >> but this is what he had to say this week after meeting with the nato secretary general. >> i said it was obsolete. it's no longer obsolete. >> well, he did admit what he said earlier, but the president also switched his stance on the export import bank and janet yellen. so it all begs the question, is all of this signaling a political shift in the white house or is this a temporary learning curve?

thank you both for joining me. hear is sean spicer's take on the reversals. take a listen. >> respectfully i think you could look at it that what you're referring to as a shift in a lot of ways. and if you look at what has happened, it's those entities or individuals in some cases or issues evolving toward the president's position. >> so does that make sense to you that that is what is happening? >> no. we're seeing that we either have a president who has no core beliefs to begin with or no fundamental understanding about how some of the major apparatuses of our economic institutions work or foreign policy institutions. and to be glibly tossing things around like this doesn't suit anybody. it doesn't help us with our allies. it won't help us with business and the economy. he may land in the right position on some things like he did this week with the export-import bank, but it shouldn't take you being in the white house for 85 days to know that the export-import bank

helps american businesses export the products they make overseas. >> but that's the argument that a lot of people are making. so long as he's flopping in the right direction. >> well, he's got a new reducible base and his poll numbers are hovering right there now bat 40%. that is his reducible base. what he's not doing with any of these flip-flops because people who didn't believe him in the campaign don't believe anything he says now. he's created massive credibility problem for himself that he can't rebuild in one week of flip-flopping on major positions like nato or china being a currency manipulatomanipulator. >> so let's talk about losing some of the supporters. "new york times" saying many supporters are unfazed by these reversals while politico says his true believers are losing faith. which one is it? >> i don't believe they're losing faith in him. i look at our poll numbers here in a congressional race where six pretty qualified guys are running to replace mick mulvaney for congress and they are

hanging all over the trump rhetoric. as to the misstep, exaggerations, i like a lot of people in the business professionally have seen that a lot of that would have disqualified donald trump the candidate and would have embarrassed donald trump the president. but this is a different presidency, a different time. he gets credit in the base for the things he does right like the supreme court pick which was very important to the base. and anything else as a policy shift, he's getting credit with some of the establishment republicans that have had a big question mark on his 5bability govern. so we're 80 something day there is to the presidency. we dropped a 22,000 bomb last week. that helps. 52 tomahawk missiles. the defense of the country is foremost in republicans. so i would contend that his base is pretty strong. look at the kansas race, look at the missouri race. look at the georgia race. and you will see all the

republicans should win those races. some are going to be tight and thin we'll be staring the midterms down. and midterms is where most of us are all look right now to see if donald trump will be the asset we think he is or are we going to sit in the midterms and lose a bunch of seats. >> the one group of people that -- he's right about with the base, but who haven't moved are independents and moderates. there is a big overlap there. he's about 20 points under water on those folks. those are folks that he and republicans will have to persuade to win some of those closer races. >> are joel brought up the import-export. and two days after he said export bank was a very good thing, he announced his attempt to announce scott garrett to run it. garrett actually once supported closing that bank. so again, we're seeing the president shift. is he undermining something that he said was a good thing by appointing him? >> well, politically when you're running in a republican primary,

the export-import bank, certainly the favorability to closing it and walking away from it in a republican primary and that is where donald trump was at the time was a pretty advantageous to him especially in south carolina expect for the first district where boeing aircraft is set up. but at the end of the time when you look at it, you're talking about jobs, specifically jobs in texas and bigger states. so he's moved to it. the conservatives will have a question mark about that, places like the heritage foundation -- >> congressman, i have to interrupt you. i'm so sorry. we breaking news. we're look at live pictures coming out of berkeley, california where we're seeing a scuffle right now. it's getting pretty ugly as you can see. these are pro and anti-trump protesters that are as you can see are having a bit of a sk skirmi skirmish. they are throwing punch, throwing each other up against the wall. we're heard reports of tear gas

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