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failed, or looking at the reveal your taxes president trump marches all over the country, i look at things through the eyes of one who's been a civil rights activist before i was a teenager and all of my life. so the context that i look at the world comes from those eyes. i thought about how rev rand dr. wi wyatt t. walker, he told me how in the middle of the struggle for public accommodations in the 60s, they were in birmingham fighting against the forces of bull connor, and they were going to jail and kept fighting, going to jail. they finally had children going to jail. and they got around easter week,

good friday was coming. and the debate among the staff about the king was whether to submit to go to jail and risk missing easter sunday, a big service in the baptist church, and certainly in the black church, and all of them who are mostly ministers wanted to be on their pulpit, or whether they should stay in birmingham and go to jail and risk missing that sunday. and as the debate raged on, dr. walker said, dr. king went in another room and when he came out he had on his denims, and they knew he had made up his mind to risk fwhg his pulpit with his father who pastored the church he co-pastored on easter sunday. he chose the movement and the risk of changing history over what was his tradition, custom,

and convenience. i look 50 years later, over 50 years later, and i look at what is going on with the things dr. king and dr. walker and others went to jail for. we see judge gorsuch being confirmed and sworn in to the supreme court. many of us felt that it was a hijacking of president obama's nominee, of being the justice that replaced, of course, the late justice scalia. but it was more than just denying president obama's nominee. it certainly was that. it was to really make sure the court didn't tilt toward president obama appointing someone that would, in my

judgment, preserve a lot of the things that dr. king and other fought for in the 60s. you see, if they had put that seat and given that seat to judge garland, they would have lost a conservative seat, and that would have the tilted the supreme court in the direction that many that fought for social justice and women's rights and lgbtq rights and others that fought for, but by stalling, by breaking all the rules, they didn't only give a black eye to president obama. they held on so now you have 4-4, 5-4, or even votes, or praying that one tilts one way or another depending on your side. if they get one more seat on the right wing, one more, you have voting rights issues that are pending. you have gender rights issues

that are pending. you have lgbtq rights that are depending on those votes. you have climate change. you have the affordable care act coming up another way. we are not just talking about an election. we're talking about the next half century or more that these court justices will decide, and it is right at the edge. we're on the brink of undoing what dr. king and others went to jail for. when we saw senator sessions, the majority leader of the senate, outright change the process, abort what was the senate tradition. his target was not just president obama. his target was they want to roll back what had been established by civil rights and

environmental rights and women's rights and gay rights. that was the target. and many of us were looking at the checker game, and they were looking at the chess board, and this easter sunday morning, i'm looking at that board, saying that they are on the brink of undoing all that was achieved. and as dr. king chose, not to just go to a pulpit and go through tradition and pomp and ceremony. oh, i'm preaching today, and many are as well. but we ought to be preaching about where we are in the world, in this nation, in our respective areas of concern on this easter sunday morning. when we come back, examples of how attorney general jeff sessions justice department is

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jeff sessions earlier this week. in the border state of arizona, promising to amplify the trump administration's crackdown on illegal immigration. he called on federal lawyers to prioritize criminal immigration cases, defended the proposed border wall, and pledged to add immigration judges in the next year. we also learned this week that sessions has dissolved the department's independent commission on forensic science. and obama era initiative to review how evidence is used in criminal courts, and to cut down on the kinds of wrongful convictions that often send innocent people to frizz. as i said before, while many of the trump administration's initial goals have stalled.

the, the sesons justice department has been racking up almost weekly successes in its attempt to roll back the civil rights advances of the last eight years, the if not the last 50 years. joining me now is christian clark, president and executive director of the lawyer's association for civil rights, and msnbc contributor and attorney rua s rais. >> you work with me, and part of our fear, part of our contention and even in our meeting with attorney general sessions is that we're not talking about just the obama years. they are striking at things that will, in many ways turn back

what's been achieved in civil rights over the last 50 years. share your feelings on that. >> attorney general jeff sessions is clearly at war with civil rights, and seems to be trying to turn the clock back in every respect. whether you're talking about voting rights or important advances that have been made to promote policing reform across our country, or speaking up on the spike in hate crimes we've seen around the nation, jeff sessions is making clear that he is no friend when it comes to civil rights, and so we are at war with this justice department. we need a justice department that is prepared to do its job, and enforce our nation's federal civil rights laws. >> now, raul, the whole announceme thi week, him going down and making the statements that he made and

really rolling back what had started under the obama administration in some areas and even beyond, this was a very definitive move in terms of immigration rights and in terms of civil rights of people that are immigrants in this country. >> right. and one way we should look at this, attorney general sessions was correct when he said this is a new era, and it is. immigration enforcement, and that should trouble many americans. he's there on the boarder talking about there's drugs and cartels and this out of control violence. that's not the reallity on the border. the border patrol is more militarized than ever. why is he continuing to push this narrative. the reason is to help instill in people's minds that immigrants

are dangerous, that they're violent criminals, and that, this is the chilling part. that lays the groundwork for more and more american people to accept the coming deportation force, these mass deportations that we're seeing dhs memos and other plans reported from the new york times to "the washington post" by jeff sessions pushing this narrative. trump donald trump from day one has pursued this. >> so this is not the end. this is the beginning? >> this is the beginning to put people's minds like yeah, all these undocumented people are out to get us. they're undermining our society. they're a threat. so when the deportations start happening, there will be a segment of the population that goes along with it. >> christian, one of the things we saw this week that with all the drama that the trump administration throws at us is judge neil gorsuch was sworn in

to the supreme court, and you and the lawyers committee did extensive studies on why you oppose gorsuch. one of the things i'm concerned about is that gorsuch replaces scalia, but if they get one more vote, the court tilts 5-4 to the right which could really undermine voting rights and immigration rights and affordable care act and women's right to choose. i mean, we're on the brink of them erasing the last half century. we're talking about back to dr. king and thurgood marshall, things put on the law books. we're at the brink of that right now, one seat away from that being in rl jeopardy. >> it does feel thate are on the brink of a constitutional crisis in our country. and we should view the recent

sitting of gorsuch in the supreme court alongside what's happening at the justice department. we have an attorney general that's not prepared to carry out his obligation and duty to confront civil rights problems where they exist, and to bring civil rights cases where necessary. and at the same time we now have gorsuch who has completed his first full week on the u.s. supreme court, and there are incredibly important cases that will be going before the court that are pending for review, including an appeal concerning the north carolina monster voter suppression law. i'm very concerned about the changes that we're seeing. when the lawyer's committee for civil rights under law reviewed neil gorsuch's record, we did not find evidence that suggests he brings a strong commitment to

fairly interpreting and applying the constitution or fairly interpreting and applying federal civil rights laws. when you don't have the justice department to turn to, or a supreme court that is not fully staffed and prepared to fairly carrie out civil rights laws and hear the cases that come before it, it presents cause for concern. >> raul? >> well, to lay i out in blunt rms, what's crning to me about gorsuch more than anything else, neil gorsuch is 49 years old. anyone watching this right now, if they have children, expect that over the life of their children, he will be on the supreme court, and the reason it's especially troubling, not only for all the reasons our other guests laid out, but look throughout history. for people of color, lgbt people, women, anyone who has been a minority in america, the traditional path to justice has

been through our court system, because sometimes the government has failed us. sometimes our state legislatures pass laws denying us our civil rights. traditionally, we've turned to the courts for justice. now we have a court tilting so sharply right and the department of justice headed up by someone by jeff sessions. that will have tremendous implications for the future. and no matter the agenda, most americans don't support it. most americans aren't on board with the mass deportation strategy. most americans didn't vote for him, but they'll be shaping our justice systems. >> that's what you're alluding to in terms of our fear needing to mobilize those that share that view, is because we for the first time in a long time, and some of us first time in our li, where you're worried about where the courts are going to go, because they'll go up through the appeals courts to

the supreme court, and now we don't know where that's going, particularly if it tilts one more seat, and unlike the last at least eight years, the last decade, when we are dealing with police cases or discrimination cases, we can no longer say we're going to the justice department, which is your point. because we've all but been told the door is closed for civil rights and discrimination and gender equality and lgbtq rights in this department of justice. and you have to recalibrate your resistance because the federal government is no longer your way to try and balance states that do things that are in many ways unfair in our judgment? >> that's right. and the court historically has been a form of last resort for minority communities. the supreme court is where we got brown versus board of education, and a place where

we've seen transformative change when it comes to civil rights. we have cases pending across the country that may eventually come before the supreme court. at the end of the day, what's most important is that we push to hold public officials accountable like the attorney general, and that we bring that same pressure to bear on the u.s. supreme court as well to fairly carry out the obligation to ensure equal justice under law for all. >> thank you very much, christian clarke and raul rayus. >> thank you. >> coming up, we'll explain how this year's white house easter egg roll is a day late and several muppets short. stay with us.

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for dozens of lucky kids tomorrow is the annual white house easter egg roll. a presidential tradition dating back to 1878. but like so many things pertaining to the trump white house first 100 days, tomorrow's easter egg hunt has been troubled from the start. according to a report from "the new york times" this week, just how troubled? well, apparently the company that produces the easter eggs had to reach out to the first family on twitter back in february to remind them about deadlines. and not only is this year's hunt devoid of the big name celebrities of years past, but it also is expected to draw far fewer visitors than last year's. and we all know how president trump thinks about crowd size.

so what do you do when you've got a little time and a budnch f kids to entertain for several hours? you turn to every parent's best friend for nearly 50 years now, sesame street. that's right. the times reported that the white house reached out to the beloved children's program on march 20th to see if they could borrow some of their signature characters like elmo or big bird. but there's a bit of a snag, though. when the white house unveiled the budget on march 16th on the chopping block was the corporation for public broadcasting, which funds pbs and thus, sesame. here's the budget director with the logic. >> i put myselfn the shoes of that steel worker in ohio, the

coal mining family in west virginia, the mother of two in detroit, and i'm saying, okay, i have to go ask these folks for money and tell them where i'm going to spend it. can i look them in the eye and say i want to take money to you and give it to the corporation for public broadcasting? that's the hard sell and something we don't think we can defend anymore. >> just four days after declaring public broadcasting, a burden on single mothers, the trump white house asked for volunteer muppets for the hastily planned easter egg roll. fortunately, the folks at sesame street were feeling generous. they said they could have one. so on this easter sunday, i have a little pulpit wisdom for the trump white house. first, failing to plan is planning to fail. second, sesame street has been

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so what happened to the campaign promise of america first? joining me now is pim a levy, and jonathan allen. thank you for being with me this easter sunday. >> happy easter. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. same to you. let me get into it. we see this week a lot of engagement around syria, around exchanges, verbal and otherwise with russia. the secretary of state tillerson going to russia, and then, of course, yesterday the failed launch in north korea. what's going on here, pima, and what is the deal? donald trump said america first. i'm not the president of the world. i'm the president of the united states. yet, we see all of this flurry of world and global engagement

by the trump administration. >> yeah. i think that that has a lot of his supporters scratching their heads, and wondering whether or not he is going to be as he put it, as his words are, the america first president if he's going to be focusing on the economy here at home and not trying to fix all the world's problems. so i think his supporters are worried about that, and they -- some say it pushes out he was just a neo conservativconservat. some are holding out judgment. some will point to the advisers pushing him in a direction that he shouldn't be going. there's a lot of attention on the people around him, and whether or not he's being pushed away from his sort of core p populist and america focussed interest he showed in the campaign. >> jonathan, let me follow up on that.

at first some were saying a lot of this is to try to act as though they're not in collusion with russia. now as it unfolds, we're reading and hearing a lot about a lot of his advisers and whether babnno no longer has the influence which is why president trump is being more active in other areas of global politics. we're hearing a lot of that. how much of that are you hearing is true? and what is the -- what are you hearing as the forecast for bannon in terms of is he about to be dumped? >> i think saturday night live got the right last night to reference the sister network. it's basically to say that if donald trump is going to choose between his son-in-law and one of his other advisers, his son-in-law is going to win that debate. jared kushner looks to be in good position. i think it's premature to see

steve bannon is going to be gone from the white house. the president was able to rally a lot of people to his side, get a lot of energy from the bannon wing of the republican party. i don't think bannon is necessarily their leaders, but he is somebody looked at as having their interests at heart. so he may or may not stay in the white house. my guess is that the president would want him not to be outside the tent throwing rocks in, so whatever the situation, however it resolves, it would be bad for president trump to be a split with a guy who has done a pretty good job of taking a wrecking ball to institutions in the establishment. >> pima, i want to get to one or two domestic things. clearly what happened on united airlines and others, certainly other issues bother me, but china, i must ask about this before we come domestic. the fact that the head of china had his mar-a-lago meetings, how they are playing, and how

they're positioning with north korea, where do you think you've seen any indication that there's any change or modification of where china is as it relates to the united states as a result of mar-a-lago, or are we seeing the same position j especially when we see how they're dealing with north korea and this failed missile launch? >> i think that the north korea situation is rattling everyone at the moment. you have a relatively new leader there, and you have a new president here in the united states, and so that adds a lot of uncertainty to the equation. i imagine the chinese are trying to figure out what they're playing with right now. the fact they went to mar-a-lago, i think they realize that donald trump is someone by all accounts, who is impressionable, who listens to the people around him, who doesn't necessarily have his own

feelings about things, who is persuadable if people make a good argument. by going to mar-a-lago, they feel like they can have a chance to make an impression on this president and perhaps get more out of him than initially they would have thought given his rhetoric on the campaign trail talking about making china a currency manipulator, all that rhetoric has now faded to the background. >> it seems like he's reversed on a lot. >> jonathan, are we losing a lot of attention on domestic situations? the united airlines, the passenger dragged down the aisle video, it's something that outraged many of us. the fact that sessions has reversed a lot of how we deal with policing issues in this country. are we seeing a lot of plflurryn terms of foreign affairs at expense of real domestic concerns that we ought to be really focusd on?

>> i'd like to think any president wect is able to deal with bot the foreign playing field and the domestic policy agenda. we were talking earlier about president trump and going back on the sort of america first ideology. i think he's gotten into office and realize american interests don't end at american borders as they may have in the 19th century, or 18th century. but that said, i think the country is more focussed, the public is more focussed on a lot of those things. i think that's what you're suggesting. the public is more focussed on what's going on overseas. we're firing missiles into syria and dropping bombs in afghanistan. >> i have to cut you off because i'm out of time. in many ways, i guess they're interrelated and one in the same at the end of the day. thank you both. sorry to cut you off, ondhjonat but have a happy easter. >> up next, he may be 90 years

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harry belafonte emerged as an elder statesman, a living shorthand for the union between popular art and social justice. in the 60 plus years since he entered the nation's cultural consciousness as an actor and soak list, mr. belafonte has collaborated with giants of american history. using his name and reputation to bring attention to the most pressing matters of our time. now, at 90 years old, he is as outspoken as ever, and leading

by example for a new generation of artists turned activist. mr. belafonte will be my guest at the national annual conference as we honor him, and so many are coming out for that later this month. i wanted his thoughts. i wanted his vision, and i wanted it on this easter morning to hear from the manhat shaped a century. mr. harry belafonte. welcome. >> thank you. call me harry, would you? >> all right, harry. i got to call you mr. belafonte. i always tease you. you're our father in the movement. you're not just an artisan that supported a movement. you were in the trenches. you've done more behind the scenes than in front of and orchestrated others that came in and made appearances. now from nelson mandela to dr.

king, i mean, it's been an amazing journey. that's one of the reasons we're honoring you. i wanted you to share with us at this point in american history, as one who has seen the trajectory from the back of the bus to an african american president, and now to donald trump, how do you see this? >> i tell you, reverend sharpton, i sit here and 90 years is a long time to have been graced with life. i've been very much involved in watching america shape itself. we've committed so much to making civilization a bit richer than the way we found it when all of us entered into the space. and with the struggles of the great depression in the 30s, the

struggles with the great lies of hitler, and the axis powers and that second world war, and after that the great struggle with civil rights and the great conflict in the nation with our wars, vietnam. we've been through a lot. and i must say that as triumphant as we have been on so many levels, i assumed by the time i got this far, america would be in a much happier place. but to now find used in midst of more conflict than we deserve, more conflict than both of us thought would be here today now, this way, it puzzles me. we've been through a lot as a nation. the integration movement did a lot to turn this country around.

and yet, somewhere, somehow, we blinked. somewhere, somehow, we missed a step, because now we're sitting here struggling with donald trump, and the evils he brings to the menu of life, and i'm looking for that energy to come out of our community that we just let him know that enough is enough. and that we're made of better stuff than we choose to understand and believe. i think we'll turn the corner. we'll do well. america seems to have a propensity for doing that. no matter how often things have looked bleak, somehow the nation

works it way through the problem. i think we're going to do that again, but i think most people are blind sided by what he brought to the table. that's a sad commentary, but four years, isn't i hope as long as we see it coming as long as it appears to be. >> you are now being in many ways copied in people emulating their artistry. i've seen countless artists say i'm becoming involved because of harry belafonte. i want to be like harry belafonte. i don't want to name people because they'll get angry if i leave them off, but the list is long, and you always would tell some of us how paul robeson impacted you. what was the thing that made you? you were a, by any measure, a

megastar before the term was created, but you decided to use it to become involved in bettering this country and other countries. i was there when you walked nelson mandela in this country when he first got out of jail because you struggled. he wouldn't listen to anyone but harry. what did harry say. so you affected south africa, struggles in europe. what made you decide to put your commercial artistry on the line for causes? what was the deciding factor for you? >> i tell you, there are two things responsible for those values that i reveal in my daily choices. first was my mother who was an immigrant woman. came to america looking for a chance at life, and what she had not expected was that the issues

of race would have been so severe. she came from the island of jamaica. she thought here in america she stood a better chance. but she did not have the opportunity come her way, and it's how she survived that fact, the dignity in the way in which she dealt with the challenges that were put before us. her choices in life, her tenaciousness in dealing with the things that came our way, set the example. the second thing was the poverty it. i think a lot of people look upon poverty as it should be looked upon, as something to try to distance ourselves from. but the truth of the matter is that people come through the poverty culture who live through the challenges of poverty and really have a chance at life,

because in that community there's a care that poor people have for each other that affluent people don't have for each other. when you're born in want to do anything about it and when good fortune did smile on me, i thougith this good fortune, all of this power, all of this opportunity to use the platform for those given to me, that i should make it turn out to be not a wasted time. >> what are you most proud about in the life of harry belafonte? >> well, first of all, let me say although i'm 90, it's not

over yet. >> oh, no, not saying that. nowhere near. >> i'm saying that to myself. >> i booked you for your 100th birthday. that's something i'm betting on. >> the thing i'm most proud of, i don't know if pride is even the correct view. i am very, very fortunate that i should have had the coincidences that i've had in my life. i remember when i first thought about theater becoming an artist, i landed in a place in harlem for the theater. a group called the american negro theater and it was in this place i met cindy and this place that i met ozzie davis and ruby d erk dee and with that kind of launching, the best thing that happened in the midst of the

play, came an icon that came to see what they were doing with the theater. and the time that he spent with us, the time that he praised us, the time he told us having chose a life in the yards was an opportunity that should be applied fully. i listened to him. and i followed his example and i thought that the values that he put on the table, the sacrifices that he made were the kinds of things that i wanted to do with my life. this country was very cruel to him. they did not give him the space that he deserved to be fully the icon that he was, but he touched the lives of many, and i'm one of the disciples of his then to have him, to have eleanor

rooseve roosevelt, graced us with her sense of life and honor and then to meet bobby king and bobby kennedy and to have met all these people that choose to let me have time in their space was a gift, and i tried to use that association and that platform to turn this world around from the acts of evil that have consumed us so powerfully to try to make it just all a little bit better. >> you've done that. thank you so much mr. belafonte for being with us. he will join us here in new york at the national action network convention in the first national convention in the era of president trump just ten days away, april 26th we're coming together and honoring him as we kick off featuring the best of

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