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intended splash around the globe. >> good morning, and for those of you celebrating, happy easter sunday and also happy passover from "am joy." you just saw a nightly news clip from 2006 from another time north korea test fired a missile, only to see it fail in a minute. on sunday, one day after north korea put its military hardware on massive public display and as u.s. officials braced for the test that could reach u.s. shores, pyongyang's attempt late saturday fizzled four or five seconds into the test. the high profile failure came hours before vice president mike pence arrived south of the dmz and as a u.s. aircraft super carrier approached the korean peninsula in a show of force. for 20 years now a defiant north korea has been testing its missiles, firing them into the heart of frenzied diplomatic tensions as the world holds its collective breath. the only difference now, there's

a new and unpredictable commander in chief in the white house. joining me now, former state department spokesperson, former cia analyst on korea issues, scholar of authoritarian states, terrorism expert, and former fbi double agent and author of "how to catch a russian spy." great panel. thank you all for being here. sumi, i'll go to you first on this. does the fact that north korea's show of force missile test failed, is that a reason for american it is to have less anxiety or continue worrying? >> definitely continue worrying, because this test failed, now north koreans have to do another test very soon to have a successful test. it would be a huge loss of face domestically and for kim jong-un's own internal standing, he has to continue with more provocations. >> what is it kim jong-un wants from the world? >> he wants to be accepted. he wants north korea to be accepted internationally as a

legitimate nuclear power. that's his final end game, and to this effort he's going to test probably at some point down the road an icbm that could reach -- intercontinental ballistic missile -- that could reach mainland united states. >> is that ever going to happen? >> certainly not with the kind of personality and the type of actions that you're seeing from north korea right now. the united nations has worked to sideline north korea for several years and that's really the body where people focus on what is the norm and standard of the world. however, the u.n. is not the place to go when you want to enforce something, and that's going to be the challenge you have, the united states and western allied powers who are now going to have to figure out on their own is the negotiating table enough, how far are we going to be going in order to stop this nuclear threat from south korea and ultimately it's not about stopping the nuclear threat of north korea, it's helping south korea in the region. south korea and taiwan at this

point. unfortunately, we have now a president that is seeing this as only a personality conflict between him and the north korean president, leader of north korea, both of whom seem to have some erratic decision making processes and like to have shows of power, so that's certainly not going to help in our trying to manage and keep the situation calm. >> let's listen to a member of the trump administration, this is mike pence, vice president who's in south korea, this is him earlier today. >> this morning's provocation from the north is just the latest reminder of the risks each one of you face every day in the defense of a freedom of the people of south korea and the defense of america in this part of the world. >> this is a president who came in talking about america first and a very unilateralist. suddenly his vice president is out there talking about the defense of south korea. >> you're absolutely right. we've seen inconsistencies from this president from the

beginning. that's the problem. what we know now is this, is that donald trump is a hammer, and he sees everything as a nail, and from his perspective, evything becomes perna unfortunately, what he did was he bought to the provocation. he bought to what kim was trying to do. he actually ramped this up in a way he didn't need to do. he actually made this far more dangerous than is necessary, and if what he could have done was focus more on the chinese and driving the chinese to move this issue, because they are the ones who have the ability to do it, this would have gone a much different direction. this was a massive mistake and potentially a very dangerous one. >> to that very point, you have mcfarland, the person who was installed at the national security council by general michael flynn, who's no longer with the administration, but who is now been sort of turfed out, sent off to an ambassadorship, but she was on fox news this morning, the only senior administration official who went with donald trump to his golf

club this weekend in palm beach. this was on fox news this morning. >> liability to everybody and it's a threat not just to the united states, not just to south korea, not just to japan, not just to russia. actually, it was brought to china, as well. at this point we have to wait and see. like your kids in the back of the car on a long trip saying when are we going to get there, well, in this case, i think we should give the chinese president some opportunities and some time, as well as pursuing the economic and diplomatic pressures that we have and our allies have that we can bring to bear on north korea. >> did thatnd like a cohent response to north korea to you? >> no, look, as a 9/11 generation guy and someone who's learned the lessons of iraq and seen what happened when we depose saddam, the rest of the world has learned a lesson about that action. north korea is a rogue state. when you start saying things like reunifying the peninsula, what that says to north korea is not we're going to keep north korea around, it means basically

extending south korea. that's not the rhetoric they want to hear. it's the rhetoric that kind of freaks them out and they respond by ratcheting things up. north korea has one move, and that is to threaten. if they go into confrontation, it's game over for them. so they are going to go as close as they can to the line. when you think about what happened in north korea, this was all started over a tweet, and thank goodness the north koreans didn't decide not to detonate a nuclear test and instead did a failed missile launch, but that already shows they were willing to back down. this has to be solved diplomatically. the united nations is not the place, but we have to understand rogue states, you're not going to depose them easily. we've learned that lesson in iraq. we should not go down that road, and i think it is shocking to see an administration be so cavalier about this. >> one of the things that is making americans feel so rattled about this and i don't think many people were thinking about north korea november 8th of last year when the election happened, but are thinking about it now,

is the rhetoric about north korea has really gone from zero to death come one and let's listen to the director of homeland security, general john lly, on "meethe press," talking about the north korean threat to arica and the united states. >> in the case of north korea, you know, kinetic threat against the united states right now, i don't think, is likely, but certainly a cyber threat. so we would raise various threat levels in the event that something happened. >> are we in a situation where we have both of these regimes, north korean regime, as well as the united states, sort of ratcheting up the threat, but they are not actually threatening to do anything. john kelly saying there's no threat of imminent war, but there definitely is a rhetorical ramping up of this threat level. >> yeah, and one of the key problems is et rhetoric on north korea from the u.s. side is very inconsistent. in march tillerson announced diplomacy with north korea

failed. they began bringing out the idea of the preemptive strike on north korea. trump started baiting north korea with tweets. north korea is not going to see those tweets and say, as some american commentators said, this is a distraction or trump is trying to get out of a domestic crisis or the russian investigation. they are going to see that as an aggressive move and similarly trump is so unsophisticated, has no political strategy beyond a fetish for aggression, he'll see things north korea has been doing for years, like testing various military devices, as a direct provocation against the united states and he will ratchet up the rhetoric similarly and call for strikes on north korea and what not. and this is very dangerous, because these are two nuclear powers, and trump has been obsessed with nuclear weapons since at least 1984 where he proclaimed he knows everything he needs to know about them. during the election he said if we have nukes, why not use them,

which is in direct contradiction to every nuclear policy we have had and every country has had. he's erratic and i unfortunately think that, you know, we should be very worried about where this is going in terms of confrontation between these two regimes. >> sumi, is it accurate to say the north koreans take everything donald trump says as a very serious threat, even if it's just a tweet? >> absolutely. north korea is already a very paranoid state and kim jong-un is a paranoid man. he recently killed his brother using a chemical weapon in a major international airport. north korea is likely to take this threat very, very seriously. >> jack rice, is there confidence in the intelligence community on the u.s. side donald trump knows what to do in response? >> no. that's the problem we're seeing on the sbemgs side, they don't know exactly what it is we're doing. if we listen to the panel as a whole, we're finding here the incredible inconsistencies coming from tillerson, coming from pence, coming from his national security advisers, and then what you have is all of a

sudden him at 3:00 in the morning tweeting to the north koreans. so when you have that happening, you contemplate the ramificaons of this. my fear is that he's never contemplated the ramifications. he just knows how to pound his chest. the problem is, brute force does not work by itself and in this circumstance it makes it far, far worse. >> yeah. well, i don't think we've lowered anybody's anxiety levels this morning. stay right there. representative barbara lee has a plan to stop america's addiction to war. that's next. people just can't get enough of me and my discounts. so this year, they're getting a whole lot more. box 365, the calendar. everyone knows my paperless, safe driver, and multi-car discounts, but they're about to see a whole new side of me. heck, i can get you over $600 in savings. chop, chop.

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military. we have the greatest military in the world, and they've done a job, as usual, so we have given them total authorization and that's what they are doing, and, frankly, that's why they've been so successful lately. >> my military. not the way american presidents have typically talked about the united states armed forces. of course, the president of the united states is the commander in chief, which has more to do with establishing civilian control over the u.s. armed forces than unleashing his military to wage wars as they please. civilian control does include congress, which appropriates the funds to wage military action, and yet over the past ten days under the current commander in chief, donald trump, the united states military has fired 59 missiles into syria against the regime of bashar al assad, sent an aircraft carrier as a show of force, carried out an air strike, dropped a single massive bomb on an afghanistan cave network being used by isis,

killing an estimated 36 of them, and sent dozens of soldiers to somalia to help fight the terrorist group al shabaab, the first u.s. military presence there since . and they've done all of tt while donald trump spends his weekends golfing at his $200,000 a pop club in florida and without congress debating whether the decision to use force 16 years ago authorizes any of this. or whether it's time congress passed a new one. my next guest thinks that's a problem. barbara lee of california. congresswoman, we've gone through sort of all the military exercises that have taken place and ramped up under president donald trump, but i want to read you a tweet he sent out not long ago, probably while you were getting miked up to come on the show. "our military is building and is rapidly becoming stronger than ever before.

frankly, we have no choice." as a member of congress, what in the world does that mean? >> joy, also i'm the daughter of a veteran who fought in two wars, and what this means to me is that donald trump, first of all, is acting in a very provocative manner. secondly, we have always had the strongest and most prepared military. perhaps he's trying to justify his request for $54 billion increase in pentagon spending, excuse me, which will, of course, take away resources from domestic spending, from health care, from housing, from transportation. i don't know what he's talking about. we all know that our military has always been the best prepared, but if you ask me, it's a very provocative statement. >> yeah, and at the same time, looking at a few of the recent headlines regarding the loosening of restrictions, donald trump is bragging about essentially freeing the commanders from having to check in much with him, apparently, before taking military action.

trump gave military new freedom, with that m cos danger. air strikes in mosul killing civilians, asking if u.s. rules of engagement and trump easing combat rules in somalia intended to protect civilians. is congress exercising enough oversight at this point, given the fact donald trump is essentially outsourcing his military policy to the commanders in the field? >> congress is missing in action. the 2001 resolution, which i voted against, was a blank check, it was 60 words and gave authorization to any president to use force for perpetual war, and that is what's taking place, joy. i asked the congressional research service to give us a declassified report. this was several years ago under president obama's administration. it has been used over 37 times in 14 countries. it's been used to justify drone attacks, attacks in yemen, somalia, wiretapping, guantanamo, you name it, it's been used for. it needs to be repealed.

>> so people understand what we're talking about, this is 16 years ago, the authorization to use military force, which was passed about a week after 9/11, on september 18, 2001, and it says the president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the attacks that occurred on 2001 or harbored such organizations or persons in ord to to prevent any future acts. and, of course, congresswoman, this was passed before there was an isis, so how is it that this authorization to use force against those who committed the september 11 terrorist attacks now applies to anyth that donald trump wants to do in somalia against al shabab or against isis? >> this is just providing cover. it needs to be repealed. it has nothing to do with anything donald trump is conducting in terms of military action. it's been used in yemen, it's been used in somalia, syria, of

course, iraq, afghanistan, isis, you name it. so what i am trying to do, joy, is repeal this. i've tried over and over again, and i'm going to continue to try, because we need an authorization to use force specific to whatever region or whatever country the president wants to use force. congress, again, is missing in action. i asked speaker ryan to bring us back right away from our recess so we could engage in this debate and vote up or down a new authorization, but he has not responded, unfortunately, so this gives donald trump, once again, free rein to conduct military ventures in the world. >> a lot of people don't remember the dramatic speech you gave on september 14, 2001, warning exactly about what you're talking about now. let's play a little bit of that. >> some of us must say, let's step back for a moment, let's just pause just for a minute and think through the implications of our actions today. so that this does not spiral out of control.

>> and, representative, you would think that the natural place for you to go, the two natural places for you to go for support for your resolution would be the liberal, the most liberal caucus in the body, in the house of representatives, and the freedom caucus, who style themselves as constitutional conservatives and originalists. have you gotten any co-sponsors from either the progressive caucus or the freedom caucus? >> sure, joy, and i have in the past for the last, i believe, seven or eight years now, offered amendments to repeal this, and i've gotten up to 140 to 150, i think one time maybe 160 votes. we need 8 to pass it, so we're building support, but it's going to take the power of people, it's going to take the resistance movement. it's going to take more external pressure to make sure that members of congress understand that they need to join with us to repeal this resolution so that we can move forward and not give any president a blank check. so we're building that support,

but my gosh, it's taken over 15 years for the country to really begin to understand what a overly broad authorization that was. >> absolutely. and if people want to support your effort to repeal, is there a bill, a specific bill out there that people should be looking up and supporting? >> sure, i would urge them to just call my office. i think it's hr-1473. we have two bills. one is to deny funding for ground troops in syria, because we know what's taking place there and we do not want our young men and women in harm's way as it relates to syria, but also the repeal resolution. feel free to call my office and get that information so that they can read it and understand what we're trying to do. >> excellent. congresswoman barbara lee with a call to action. you heard it here, we'll put it up later also for those who may have missed that number. thank you very much, congresswoman. coming up next, a little career planning advice for sean

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it takes a person with a very special set of skills to try to translate donald trump to the world on a daily basis and it's starting to look like sean spicer has none of those skills. just ask melissa mccarthy. >> before we begin, i know that myself have gotten off to a rocky start. all right, all right, all right! in the sense when i say rocky start, i mean it in the sense of "ro "rocky" the movie, because i came out to punch you in the face, and also i don't talk so good. >> what's less funny is what the real spicer said this week, that bashar al assad was guilty of acts worse than adolf hitler. spicer since apologized repeatedly and abjectly, but

some members of congress are claiming it's too little, too late, and calling for spicer's resignation. a very bad week for spicer, indeed, to the point he likely wants to bury his head in the sand, or perhaps hide in a bunny suit, something spicer used to do for the white house easter egg roll back when he was a bush staffer on the hill. doesn't he look happier? spicer even tweeted last march, "what i would give to hide in a bunny costume again." well, sean, can we call you sean? we have a proposition for you. how about casting off that ill-fitting suit at the daily briefing and climbing back into the bunny suit at the easter egg roll on monday. your admistration could use the help. according to "the new york times," the trump white house is so disorganized, the egg roll is in disarray. even receiving a warning back in february that the manufacturing deadline for the event's commemorative wooden eggs was fast approaching, urging him and

the first lady and for some reason ivanka to reach out. the easter egg roll is one of the oldest traditions on the white house south lawn. the first is in 1878. this year's late planning could mean a smaller and less ambitious event. what will a trump egg roll look like anyway? will all the eggs be gold? >> i want my geese to lay gold eggs for easter. >> it will, sweetheart. >> at least 100 a day. >> anything you say. >> will melania make a rare appearance on the lawn in her designer heels? and will it be as large and grand as obama's rolls, which hosted an attendance of nearly 300,000 people in his eight years in office? will trump find some way to boast about his being the best roll in easter? sean spicer, why be in the position of delivering those alternative facts when you can instead hide in a bunny suit, given where your administration is heading, we'd hide, too. be the bunny, sean, be the bunny. >> that music just makes it.

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we didn't use chemical weapons in world war ii. you had a, you know, someone as despicable as hitler who didn't even sink to -- to using chemical weapons.

>> hitler didn't even sink to the level of using chemical weapons, what do you mean by that? >> i think when you come to sarin gas, he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that assad is doing. there was not -- he brought them into the holocaust, i understand that. >> wow, even before tuesday's white house briefing was over, the backlash over sean spicer's comments had begun, followed by calls for his resignation and a spicer apology tour. >> tell us who y're apologizing to right now. there are holocaust survivors out there, who were listening to what you said and couldn't believe a spokesman, the press secretary for the president of the united states, would make such a statement. so just specifically, tell us who you want to apologize to. >> well, clearly, you know, anybody who not just suffered in the holocaust or is a descendent of anybody, but, frankly, you know, anyone who was offended by those comments.

>> nancy pelosi says you should be fired. is your job safe? >> i -- i -- i -- you know what, i made a mistake, i'm owning up to it. this is, obviously, i would expect or i'd hope that everyone understands that we all make mistakes and ask for forgichbs. >> but will he get forgiveness? more importantly, will he keep his job? joining me, former clinton campaign strategist, and jason johnson, politics editor online. among those offended by sean spicer's remarks, well, everyone, but also interestingly enough one of the biggest donors to the donald trump campaign, shelden adelson, apparently contacted spicer's office and got a personal apology from spicer. did the fact that got out, that he personally apologized to a big, big donor before he started his public apology tour, did that help or hurt -- maybe a rhetorical question, did that help or hurt the situation? >> i think it's probably more

irrelevant to the situation. this goes beyond any one phone call. the question people have to ask is why, you know, the thing that you don't want any white house press secretary, you don't want to do from that podium is come close to compromising the truth, but he's working for a president who willingly compromises the truth day in and day out, so he may very well be the press secretary this president wants. his own personal credibility is damaged, he's making mistake after mistake daily from that podium. it's not serving him well at all and honestly in the long run i don't think it serves president trump well. >> as somebody who worked for a president, in the position that he's in, he has two choices. he can get out there and say whatever it is donald trump tells him to say, or he can leave, right? this is not an administration that's going to brook something other than lying if the president wants you to lie, right? >> the most valuable thing a communications director or press secretary can do is make sure you are telling the president the tough questions he's going to face, the tough answers that

have to be delivered. you cannot be a pussy cat in those jobs. you have to be one of the voices in the white house that's going to say, no, sir, we cannot defend you falsely accused president obama of wiretapping your phones. it will make your ratings worse, you will suffer with the american people. those are the hard truths you have to tell a president in those jobs. >> isn't that the problem? it's not so much just what spicer is telling us, the public, the press corps, it's what he's not telling donald trump, to joel's point? >> i tnk that'sxactly right. if he had somewhat of a spine, he would be able to speak back and talk back to the president, or at least tell him, hey, i'm not going to go out and do that. here's the thing, white house press secretaries tend to have the audience of the world. sean spicer has the audience of one, and that's donald trump. this is somebody who watches cable television all night long, tweets in the middle of the night about it, he gets his intelligence briefing from fox news, and this is what we have, unfortunately, this is what sean

spicer is dealing with. but let's be clear here, spicer lost his credibility on day one when he went behind the podium and started lying about the crowd size. and since then it's been lie after lie after lie. the only thing, the only effective communication that this white house is able to do, is leap on each other. >> yeah, and they are doing lots of that. jason, i want to read you the series of people calling for spicer's oust. nancy pelosi, who released a statement after his holocaust comments, "sean spicer must be fired and the president must immediately disavow his spokesman's statements. either he's speaking for the president or the president should have known better than to hire him." you also had congressman mike kaufman, the first republican to call on spicer to go. let's listen to what he said. >> i think it is time for him to go. i think he's -- i just don't believe he's capable of doing the job at the level that it needs to be done, and again, he's noterving this president well. >> jason, in a way, are people

puttinmore of th onus on spicer than they should, when really it's the president who decided it to hire someone who can't stand up to him? >> exactly, joy. first off, sean spicer has done this before. i think there's something about being in this administration that makes you more foolish, that brings out the worst parts of your personality, and he's just the most visible sign of it. i don't think he should be fired. i think in many respects the fact he goes out every day and lies and stumbles and is incapable of explaining what the actions are of this administration reminds us of the kind of president we have. i'd rather sean spicer go out and lay an egg and make a fool of himself every day than someone like ari flooisher or gibbs who would make this administration seem legitimate. the more he fails, the more we're reminded of the next four to eight years and that's an opportunity to remember how to resist this kind of presidency and behavior. >> at this point, people know who the press secretary is. i was reading the poll in the break earlier, favorable 28%,

37% unfavorable, 36% don't know who he is. he's getting made fun of by howard stern. >> he's become a regular character on "saturday night live." that's never good for you. when you're a press secretary or communications director, you are not supposed to be the story. the fact he's a story is a real problem for him. >> it doesn't seem that is what donald trump wants. donald trump wants a cast of characters around him. he is a tv personality himself, so what he's looking for are fellow tv personalities to represent him. >> yeah, donald trump is a petulant child. he has thin skin, so it's all about his ego, right? all about he wants sean spicer to get up there and fight for him, right, and so this is what he thinks the white house press secretary is supposed to be doing, so it has nothing to do with about telling the truth. we know this president doesn't know how to tell the truth. it's all about his own what he needs to suffice his ego. >> jason, i wonder, is the press

sort of doing ourselves a disservice? the media, we're going along. we're sending top reporters to those press briefings every day and becoming a part of the drama. it's floated around before that maybe the media should stop sending their top people. >> i don't think the media should stop sending top people, joy, but i do think this, i think every single time sean spicer speaks, i think this is improved journalism. i'm a journalism professor at morgan. i think this is improved journalism, because we're no longer having arguments about fact checking. we're really pushing for the truth and every time spicer says something that's a lie and some network executive says that's not true and tells him that in real time, it shows america what the fourth estate is really supposed to do. i think in some respects while he's dishonest, it is a benefit to the people because we get to see what's going on. i haven't been prouder of the press in a very long time. >> i think you're getting an amen, ds and amen on this

easter sunday. >> look, i think the press has been -- and i agree with jason's point -- the press has been more genteel about going after president trump and calling him a liar. a lot of journalists debated this for a long time and whether they should or not. with spicer, it's been kind of open season right now because he's engaging in something from the podium that they have never seen or experienced before, and they are going to nail him and make him pay a price for the falsehoods in a way they are not going to be as aggressive with the president. >> out of time. last word. >> i was just going to say, sean spicer gets behind the podium and creates policy. i mean, that's what he's doing and it gets him into trouble, which is obviously incredibly dangerous, and when he doesn't do that, what's he say? he uses this phrase all the time, i'll let donald trump tweets speak for itself. >> and he's given us the gift of melissa mccarthy. i'm staying with be the bunny. # bethebunny. thank you all.

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there was clearly -- i understand, thank you. thank you, i appreciate that. there was not -- he brought them in to -- to the holocaust center. i understand that.

the way assad used them, went into towns, dropped them down into the middle of town. the use of it, and i appreciate the clarification. that was not the intent. >> blah, blah, blah. i don't even know what you just said. what are you laughing about? >> does art imitate life, or the other way around? this week saw sean spicer's regrettable hitler/assad moment get the veep treatment. one of the show's executive producers said the real life sean spicer this week takes the awkward cake. joining me now, executive producer of the hit show "veep," which premieres tonight for its sixth season. congratulations on that. >> thank you, thank you. >> could you script a sean spicer character or would he blend right in? >> he's be unremarkable and i should pntut this brilliant editing was not doney us, it was done by a viewer on youtube, we had nothing to do with it. we don't have imitation real life, you know, trump or spicer

characters. we leave that to "snl," but, you know, we have an idiotic press secretary, incompetent press secretary, who's a perfect match for which is a perfect match for selina meyer. the julia louis-dreyfus character. >> and how do you predict the winning lottery ticket? >> we've had a weird thing in journalism having things happen on the show, a year later, even like selena had an e-mail problem or hacking issues. >> right. >> so, we just keep to our village of the dachled idi identificati -- damned idiots in washington and hope there's an eternal reality that may not spin out the way it has to the trump administration. >> have you ever wondered about,

has america culturally, just become so kind of inert to the idea that you could have a ridiculous white house? it doesn't matter, right, that the person could be a celebrity and not know anything about policy. is that something we came to becausofnterinnt? or has entertainment sort of dulled our version, the idea of it? >> i think they've blended for some time. i think it goes back to really the kennedy administration. he was a movie star of sorts. he ostensibly hung out with movie stars. the rat pack, under reagan he himself had been, at least, a b-movie star. we saw more of the blending. bill clinton went on arsenio hall and played the fact. >> it's been emerging over time. you talk to democrats and their strategizing for 2020. george clooney. >> tom hanks. oprah, whatever. it's not an idiotic idea given the state of leadership in

general in the democratic party. i wouldn't reject it out of hand. certainly, i would hope that democrats can get someone better than the host of "celebrity apprentice." >> exactly. i have to get you to comment on some of the twitter. donald trump going on a tweet storm this morning on the military and the hardware. and again tweeting about the electoral college. what is going on there? >> well, both of these things are fascinating. the moral weaponry, he's responding to north korea. that's the bar that he's setting that he's going to have a bigger you know what than they do. and then the election, you know, it's sad. it's kind of like a show business thing of a star in this case. a c-level star. who had a hit, long ago.

kind of norman desmond on the boulevard, and turning it over and again. >> and now melania tweeting about the easr egg roll. you had comments onhat this morning. we actually read your tweet where you said this takes authenticity to a new level. is the theatrics of doing something like the egg roll maybe the trumps not taking it seriously will allow us to not taking it seriously. that's a backhanded event to it? >> i guess if you want to find the funny side of it, that the white house is so competent, they can stage an easter egg roll. a bit of free happy publicity. >> one of the other things that donald trump has done. trump has upended all of the issues that go with the presidency. the canonization, quite frankly, even going to church. >> trump is not religious. >> yeah, that doesn't seem to

bother his core. easter sunday, he tweeted an offhand happy easter. he doesn't have to demonstrate it. >> that's one of the lucky things about the election. the evangelical base didn't vote for him. had he doesn't even know what the bible is, maybe seen in a post-trump hell room. you know, he just doesn't know anything about it. and of course, there's also his private morality as such. but it just goes to show that people are willing to go with their tribe, no matter what, what, power, money? >> yeah. >> total hypocrite. >> what happened to the desperate outrage, do you remember that? >> oh, my god. >> you can't excuse bill clinton public morality just because you like his politics. >> that goes to the cruz being gored. >> do you think because of the spoof on politician and also the university, i think it's

important you that made that point to create a completely separate alternate universe. are there ways that hollywood can shape the real universe,he way it has in the last years. as selina meyer in the future? >> i think cultural cannot shape the real word. what in the '60s did the kids grow up with? father knows best. my little maugs and leave it to beaver. i just feel not this direct culture between culture and what happens in real life. >> at the same time, there's a satisfying argument that has seen so many black presidents predicted as black in hollywood made it easier for barack obama as president. that hasn't quite obviously happened with a woman president. >> it hasn't happened with a woman president. certainly there. >> reporter: plenty on television. and same with same-sex marriage. i mean, gay characters. i think it plays a role. almost plays a role but i just

don't think it's terminate tiff determine tiff of how things are. >> if sean spicer were to be a character in "veep" what job would he fit in? >> he'd be a lowly assistant, the lowsome formeral sift to selena who is now workings his way through the house of representatives. >> you've busted him down from the assistant to the assistant. >> assistant to the assistant. thank you very much. "veep" premieres, its sixth season on hbo. coming up next, the o'reilly factor, the mur dodochs are spending easter deciding on the fate of their biggest star. more on that. are allergies holding you back?

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for those of you luc enough to still be stunts it's spring break season. sorry, parents. for one spring breaker on fox news, the vacation might just be getting started. bill o'reilly told viewers hield be getting away for r avnd r. o'reilly said on the show that his vacation was preplanned. but his vacation happens to come shortly after "the new york times" revelation that o'reilly and fox news paid $13 million in settlement to five woman accused him of sexual harassment. the ratings after his last prevacation show on tuesday said that o'reilly's viewers have not abandoned. his advertisers on the other hand certainly has. according to "variety" last week, his show featured ten down from 43. o'reilly is scheduled to be back

on the air april 24th according to the "the new york times," the murdochs are awaiting keeping o'reilly around. including a protest at fox news channel against o'reilly this week led by one of the guests who is with me now. new york city public advocate calling for an investigation into the claim against bill row lylemy as msnbc contributor david sherman who wrote about it from new york york. lisa bloom and curt bardello former breitbart. i want to get the situation from the o'reilly situation, gabriel gabrielgabe brie gabriel, is he coming back? >> the patriarch of the family.

there's a sense that murdoch doesn't want to be pressured into making a decision. his sons, especially james murdoch looking to take it in a more forward looking direction saying listen this is a stain on our name. trying to cut ties. that's the state of play. >> it's hard to believe, inside of fox, being an employee, is there no internal rumbling this is not a culture we want to be portraying to the rest of the world? >> there is. but the problem is, fox news is such a profit center. and rupert murdoch said this is a business that makes me over $1 billion in profit. and disgruntled employees are not going to pressure me into cleaning house. >> fox news explains we've launched two investigations. one as trustee on the board. we filed a complaint on s.e.c. basically asking s.e.c. whether or not they recorded filings.

settlements were described as conversations as opposed to settlements. owe a false filing or stakeholders -- >> wait, the settlements of victims were described as compensation? >> right. as opposed to settlements. so stakeholders and shareholders really need to know the risk associated with this company. but unfortunately, the filings that they made, unfortunately, do not disclose in fact this false information. >> i have to go to lisa on this. because the idea that somebody could sue for sexual harassment and then win, essentially, get a settlement and are that represented to them as compensation. i find that incredible. is that even legal? >> well, i think the investigation is going to have to determine that. that hats off to her. i represent wendy walsh. we call in on the hotline a couple weeks ago.

i can tell you we have been very active getting them all of the information that they have requested. witness names. phone numbers. e-mails. giving them what they want. and fully cooperating in their investigation. and i think that's going to be very significant. >> and kurt, i think when you look at the culture going on there, it seems incorrect for me you could have harassment going on, complaints not just about bill o'reilly and roger ailes that had this go on and on for years. and have o'reilly still working there. on the right is there a sense of standing up for him -- why. an attack on a man? what is behind this report that o'reilly and ailes have? >> they go on those shows because they want to reach that republican base that's so vocal and powerful, particularly in primary elections. and they feel if you speak out against fox news, you're

speaking out about the republican base that swept donald trump into office. they know this is an audience, a fervent trump supporters. so going against fox news is like going against your own supporters. and i think a lot of politicians are cowardly in not doing so. it's embarrassing there are so many people in public office who are supposed to be role models who won't do the right thing and call out sexual harassment when they see it instead, pander to their base. >> people still going on? >> yeah, i think what's fascinating in the background of all of this, in addition to the investigation, if we have a federal investigation at fox news and i've done more reporting on that as well that the fbi and u.s. attorney's office for the southern district of new york are looking into these claims of whether there were secret payoffs. in addition, the legal surveillance of journalists

including myself who have reported on fox news. so this is a possible legal and criminal mess for rupert murdoch and his company. >> what do you mean? >> obtaining the phone records of journalists illegally by contacting perhaps the cell phone company to get the records to see which employees inside of fox news they're talking to. this is a fear that roger ailes presided over. and allowed rupert murdoch to survive. in london there was the infamous phone hacking scandal in which private investigators hacked into the voice messages of people to get stories. this is again, a culture where rupert murdoch looks the other way while companies go to questionable means. >> is this an investigation that you're work on? >> i think it's important to understand that this is the same one that preaka howard was

working on when he got hired. it's important to understand that bill o'reilly is a cash cow and that fox news basically placed the interests of this cash cow over that of women. >> you can explain how are you able to launch an investigation into, i guess, a private company? >> i'm a trustee and the board nicis board. i can file complaints with the s.e.c. and do shareholder derivative case if i chose to. the bottom line is they failed to disclose information. and to shareholders who invest in 21 century fox and clearly that's going to have an impact on shareholder s. and people of color, obviously it should have an impact on the bottom line. >> there's a racial discrimination judge from fox news as well --

>> which i hear more women are joining. >> exactly. >> and lisa, do these investigations in any way impact your case, your client's case, or any cases of other women who might want to come forward to report incidents of alleged sexual harassment? >> absolutely. i want to emphasize that my client wendy walsh is not asking for a penny. she has not sued. she's simply asking for accountability. we launched two additional cases. i care about women. i don't necessarily care about fox news shareholders. i care about the culture of the harassment of fox news. i sent a letter to do an investigation and to a uk regulatory agency which is currently considering whether 21st century fox can buy out sky tv and essentially bring fox

news to the uk. there are many who don't want that. they've reached out to me so i sent them the information about the news much bigger than bill o'reilly. >> and one. other things that we see, the women who make the allegations aren't long for the air. it seems if there's any dispute going on at fox news, it's against the female contributors who make the claims. they simply aren't on tv anymore? >> right. it goes to the culture if you speak out, they will retaliate against you and try to take action that's will potentially take your career. what needs to happen, if this culture is going to change. because it's a pattern behavior. not an isolated incident. the men, particularly, the sean hannityies tucker carlsons, tak a stand and say they do not support this and be part of a company that treats women this way and look the other way

because it's profitability. at some point, everybody has culpability if you allow a company like this to spread. >> any chance of that, there are men and women at fox news who have said absolutely nothing. >> well, we've seen glimmers of it, shepard smith came out after the allegations and said he was sickened by the allegations. we've seen the people saying the right thing. e culture of fear. frankly, authoritarian culture where people are afraid to break ranks. >> keep us up to date on your investigation. thank you very much. lisa and kurt will be back a little later. and up next, responding to trump on the sunday morning shows. u seem knowledgeable, professional. would you trust me as your financial advisor? -i would. -i would indeed. well, let's be clear, here.

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this latest missile test just fits into a pattern of provocative and destabilizing and threatening behavior on the part of north korean regime. the president has made clear that he will not accept the united states and its allies and partners in the region being underthreat from this hostile regime. with nuclear weapons. >> so the military option is still on the options are on the. >> donald trump may have campaigned on the america first platform, but lately, he's been looking beyond u.s. borders and taking action. perhaps he's learned that war provocation are the way to get the headlines and phrase, particularly from the state of conservative media. trump is all about the ratings. which is why it all boils down to messaging. depending on the way you get

your news, you'll either get the generals or the colorful characters of trump. joining us back here. thank you all for being here. i wanted to show you the contrast. i think it's ainteresting that the administration sounds very different depending on what channel you're watching them on, john kelly, homeland security secretary. on "meet the press." >> he's got to change from relative to everything from democracy to how they live their lives and somehow get our arms around this issue of opportunity in the middle east. it's probably not really our problem. or our job. it's the job of those countries in the international community to help. it's not an american job, necessarily. >> i don't think there are very

many americans who disagree with that. it sounds reasonable. and it's not our job. let's listen to what who is now the ambassador instead, and she's on fox news talking what about is not the responsibility of the american government. it turns out what she thinks is not the responsibility is battlefield decision, take a listen. >> it's about the commander's decision to make. and we do not have a president who is sitting out there picking out bombing charges. he's left that up to the military. so far, the military has been terrific. look at the syria attack on the airport that was used by the syrians to deliver those chemical weapons. is that was done completely successfully. it was done quickly. and it was done with enormous effect, i think. >> and, you know, the message is to clearly understand the audiences, right for mainstream audiences, they're putting on

kelly, and madison. >> and the challenge is, yet this is not just a domestic narrative anymore. everything the president says, everything that is said on u.s. cable news is received internationally. so, you have people overseas who are watching cnn. watching fox. and looking at the tweets and making the decision accordingly. and it's not just presidents, it's foreign leaders. and also a president who is so driven by what he sees on cable news. the reality show president is actually dealing with reality. he doesn't have the basis of history or foreign policy or any of the strategy to really help boost's image and america's security overseas. >> and one of the other challenges, of course, with one of the challenges that donald trump watches any more than the other is to please him. so the message that he wants to see that is actually being reflected back to him is from fox news. i want to play something that i

thought was extraordinary and not in a good way this week. this was after the moab drop on target in afghanistan. this is what fox news did on friday. ♪ feels like the whole world is raining down on you ♪ ♪ ♪ courtesy of the red white and blue ♪ . >> that's obviously a 21,000 bomb explodes in afghanistan/pakistan region where at least 36 isis fighters have lost their life. welcome to the final hour of the weeks on "fox & friends." guess who is here geraldo rivera. >> that is what freedom loo like. >> one of my favorite things in the 16 years i've been here on fox news is watching bombs drop

on bad guys. >> first of all, i'd like to remind people, geraldo rivera dodged the draft. so he could have watched there. that kind of jinglism, to your point to viewers at fox shoes, that can go around the world and project the image of the united states? >> what the person basically before stressed the commander in chief advocating when we should choose to bomb. that should send chills over everybody. ultimately, we're going to promote war and we're not going to have our commander in chief decide and when that happens, and that's basically what she was saying i think that makes everybody profusely uncomfortable. the military should be uncomfortable as well. he doesn't have the departmeth

make decisions. >> kurt, at the same time, you've now had what appears to be a takeover or at least a foreign policy of this white house by the general. people not in the school of bannon and who really probably dislike it. i want to play one of them, h.r. mcmaster, the guy who largely oustedteve bann from the principles committe this is him on "this week" earlier this morning. >> this is one who has demonstrated his brutality by murdering members of his family. by imprisoning large numbers of people for horrible, political reasons. so this regime has given the world reason for concern. and that includes -- that includes the chinese people, the chinese leadership as well. >> of course, he's talking about north korea there.

but at the tail end of that comment, there's a sense of working with the chinese. and how is that message going to go over with that bannonized base on their sidelines with people like mcmaster and sort of internationalism push forward? >> well, i think part of the reason why you're seeing this narrative, a change in rhetoric, change in tone and strategy, coupled with something additional, dropping the mother of all bombs. that's something that trump can point to that plays up on fox, like a propaganda video with that toby keith "red, white and blue" song playing in the background. what they're seeing bombs being dropped against our so-called enemies. on the flip side of it, on every other channel. you're seeing people who spent a lifetime in career and military service who understand the gravity and the complications of these situations. they're going to speak responsibly to it, while they feed up propaganda to their

base. >> this might actually flip on the base. forgetting in all of this, the number of men and service women for 16 years. the same amount of time that geraldo rivera has been on tv talking about dropping bombs. they want to know what was the purpose of 16 years in afghanistan if we're still not done? >> right. >> cool heads are prevailing, we need to have diplomacy. wolf blitzer was on, saying we need diplomacy, war should be the last option. >> thank you very much, my guests. thank you very much. up next, a sneak peek at the new landmark cover.

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joining me with an exclusive look at the new cover, editor-in-chief, vanessa luke. >> i'm excited to be here. >> it's really exciting. how did this idea, this issue come togeth? >> well, you know, we were thinking a like the aftermath of the presidential election, a lot of people were feeling powerless, a little numb. and we thought what better time for an anniversary issue to remind people that the role that women of color have always played for pushing forward justice, are for legislative justice. we play a role in all of those platforms. so, this 100 woke list, it just to kind of remind you we do have power, women of color. >> i love the fact it's a collective group of women. not just activists but people in the entertainment world. and that's an important dynamic, why did you include that?

>> because we understand that entertainers have an incredible platform. people on our list, lick zendaya, so many other women who are young and speaking out about what's going on. pointing a finger to injustice that they see, and encouraging all of us, as we just saw in the video that we all can play a role in determining our future. >> one of the things i think has happened and the shock that the election has produced people are returning a legacy -- sort of legacy pieces. right. sort of sustained, particularly with women of color over time. looking back, hey, we do need a civil rights group. to kind of re-establish what it means to be a '60s throwback. but also are people coming home for these kinds of magazines for that comfort? >> i believe so. we're definitely seeing people

wanting to be engaged. not wanting to be distracted by everything around us. making sure that they are getting alternative facts and that's something that we've always been able to provide. advocacy is part of the "essence" dna ever since its inception. making sure that our voice, especially voices of women are color are not squashed down that they're given a platform. extraordinary women like michelle obama, april ryan, congresswoman maxine waters. we're doing the critical work. every single women, 12 on the cover, yourself included. and the 88 inside which will be revealed on ethnic.com tomorrow. wherever they live, whatever the space they occupy, they're making sure they're raising their voices, speaking up for us, advocating on our baffle ehd

making sure that our concerns are not ignorednd that's critical especially at this stage right now. >> as magazine editor of a magazine of women in cluolor, d you think it's shock or is it sustainable? >> i think it's sustainable. after we saw the organization of all of those women for the women's march. j jenica, jenay, people realizing hey, we have enthusiasm. that actually ignited that sense of purpose. to make sure we don't just sit back and accept what's being put in front of us. the more united you are. you talk about intersectionality, this is a

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what happened to my dad should have never happened to any human being regardless of the circumstance. we were horrified and shocked and sickened to learn what had

happened to him and to see what had happened to him. we hope that in the future nothing like this happens again. >> that was the daughter of kentucky doctor david dao this week after her father was violently yanked off a flight on sunday. dao was forcibly removed when an airline needed four seats for united crew members and dao was taken out of the seat as he was taken screaming down the aisle. photos show dao with a bloody face. and they've apologized and changed their policy on removing passengers on a full flight. but the incident with what rules passengers agree to when they purchase the ticket and how the airlines enforce them.

back with me civil rights attorney lisa bloom and richard lui. and nbc anchor. this is an incident of an asian-american man brutalized on the plane. but then they dig up dirt on his background. this is his attorney, dr. dao's attorney on thursday, real blaming the airline. take a look. >> for a long time, airlines united in particular have bullied us. they have treated us less than maybe we deserve. >> he's talking about the bully of the airline. but there was a bigger bully of dr. dao by the media. >> i think there's several ways to look at it. the asian-american community,

one of our own is now in the lime light and not in a good way. mistreated very quickly from zero to 100 quite quickly in the videos. secondly, this community has seen a lot of hate crimes. l.a. county, for instance, just in a study last year saw hate crimes for asians were full. and the third item i'd like to bring up in communities across the country, asian towns or china towns, if you will, they're seeing asian-americans being targeted as sport. being beaten up. being taken down to get into a gang. to get into a fraternity, quote/unquote. that's why the asian-american equivalent of the naacp, just is this year, ajac started to get more data because more data is needed. >> and is there a belief that

dr. dao would not have been treated this wayful he were not ar asian? >> exactly. asian-american male, by stereotype, potentially seen as an individual that might not fight back, may be an individual that would be in a situation and not file a suit. but according to what united airlines is saying, it was by their computer system the way they selected. >> the way they select people, ali velshi, i have this graphic here that my team printed out for me. and it talks about passengers being bumped off flights in 2016. united airlines is really towards the bottom. it's clear that all airlines do this. you look at the voluntary versus the involuntary. southwest jumped up quite awe few involuntary. how is it legal for you to buy a tick for you to be bumped offer the flight? >> so, lisa is more the expert on this. but i'll tell you what people don't understand, your contract

is for carriage from one location to another within reasonable parameters. you don't actually buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. even though that's what we believe. the contracts vary from airline to airline. southwest is 20 odd pages, united is 50 odd pages. it's detailed and we don't read it. more importantly, lots of people get bumped from planes. lots of people say no and they get paid some money. i've been on a delta flight where they're offered $1350. they're not authorized to give $10,000 because nobody wants the nonsense that united brought upon itself. so the idea that you're then sitting in a seat and then bumped off is ridiculous. so the compensation should be big for that. i don't know where the aviation officers came from. he's got a broken nose, damaged sinuses and possibly missing two

front teeth. united took years to build up its reputation and sort of got rid of it? li like this. this is a colossal mess. they need to be looking at that contract of carriage and making sure customers know what they're entitled to and treating them fairly. >> lisa, people are shocked to find out that there's a type of police that can drag you off a plane and treat you as a regular police officer. who are the aviation police? and what is their authority? >> they do authority to enforce the laws and rules in airports and aarirplanes. unfortunately, united does have the right to tell even paying customers at they're not going to take thatlight of course as ali said, they should be offering money and higher amounts and higher amounts until people do it voluntarily. they did have the right to ask him off the plane. they certainly didn't have the

right to beat limb or drag him. this is part of police vial wle violence that we see. i think it's absolutely appalling. i'm glad he has an attorney. i think they're going to do very well if in terms of getting a substantial judgment if they take the case to trial and make a case of this for their shabby treatment. >> and there was an african-american dragged off a delta flight in december that doesn't get as much notice. for the united policy, we issued an updated policy to make sure crews traveling on our aircraft are booked at least 60 minutes prior to departure. this ensures situations like flight 3411 never happen again. the other thing that is brought up, the tier system, the class system in the skies, the people

who get bumped go to the rear of the plane, quite frankly. >> this has been one of the most successful programs of the airline industry. the mileage programs, these class systems. in some cases a fourth class where you're just a basic ticketholder. and you have no opportunity to move up, quote/unquote, to a normal economy seat. and a middle class that may be a comfort seat. this system, it's very interesting when -- with the story and you get in there, and immediately, do i go next? do i go next? what's your status? that sort of gaming that we see in the system has been so profitable for them so they're only doubling down on it. with united airlines, with the gargantuan merger, with the culture of everything we're seeing today so delta and

northwest, a little farther along. doing better, more profitable. >> ali, you know, it's not only a fight from luggage, whether or not you have to check your bag or whether you can get that precious overhead space. but at the same time, they're also cramming more seats into the plane almost as if you're flying cattle unless you're in an upper tier. >> and i will tell you this when you look at it over time, airfares have not experienced a great deal of inflation. one way that airlines do it, they charge for other things. but they also sometimes overbook a flight. joey, you could get on a plane and there were empty seats. that's why airplanes fill up. that's do that, i get it. all they needed to do is keep going up there. all the changes to crewing, checking in 60 hours ahead of time, that's all fine. we need to find out who decided to call the cops on to the plane

because there shouldn't have been police there. with it wasn't a safety or security issue. there's no idea to have police. ultimately, who decided to have the hand-fist approach that united has taken. these are easily solvable problems. everybody involved was a mess. i feel bad for united that they happen to call a comiuple eveof on there. offer a little bit more money, everybody will be happy. >> and oscar munoz on wednesday after coming around to finally apologizing said the use of law enforcement on aircraft has to be evaluated. well, good. all traveling, all flyers here today. thank you very much. thank you, guys. up next, what's in your wallet? are allergies holding you back?

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just about 9:00 a.m. out west and day 87 of the trump administration with new word from the president today about those tax marches that happened across the country, president trump asking who paid the protesters. a new report from the west coast anti and pro trump supporters ending in a bloody mess. boarder wall with earth day ahead. the impact othe wall if it's built. plus. >> happy easter. all right. get out of here. get out of here. go. get out of here. all right. shut up. >> don't go anywhere. we'll have more from that snl spoof with an easter bunny theme. we begin with new reaction from both sides of the aisle urging president trump to lean on china so it can