failed. the president tweeting this morning, our military is building and is rapidly becoming stronger than ever before. frankly, we have no choice. that failed launch came a day after kim jong un paraded his military hardware for the world to see. that action coincided with vice president pence's trip to the south korean korean peninsula. a white house foreign adviser traveling with pence said there's no need to expend you resources against a failed lawn. for the latest on the situation in the korean peninsula, to the visit by vice president pence, let's go to janice jackie frar. >> reporter: richard, just after this massive military parade, north korea carried out this missile test, firing what's believed to be a medium range or submarine launched ballistic missile from the east coast. u.s. officials saying it failed. they traced it, they say it blew

up almost immediately. this is a deep embarrassment for kim jong un. happening as u.s. warships are heading to the region to deter this very sort of provocation. now, that north korea fired something is really not a surprise. there's been speculation for weeks that a nuclear missile test was in the works. what isn't clear is the reaction or the extent of reaction particularly from the united states. president trump has said that north korea is a problem that will be dealt with. but so far on the test he's been silent. with only a brief statement acknowledging the test, and the failure. that was coming from the defense secretary, general james mattis. vice president pence has waded toig this -- into this tension in the region. tomorrow he's meeting with south korean officials on u.s. securitiesy assurances, but the vice president has barely acknowledged this latest test. suggesting this is official white house policy. at least for the time being to deny north korea the attention

that it's seeking. richard? >> janice, thank you so much. as for how president trump is responding to this situation on north korea he's been very reserved in his response to kim jong un's actions. let's turn to west palm beach, florida, where kelly o'donnell is traveling with president trump. how is the administration responding to north korea? >> reporter: good afternoon, richard. the trump family easter holiday is winding down now. president trump is expected to return to washington in a short while. and this has been both a quiet and a busy time over the holiday weekend for the president and the trump administration. of course there's been so much attention about the failed launch by north korea, expectations about north korea ratcheting up tensions and provocations with the west. the president himself has not commented and that has very much been part of the strategy. we heard from the defense secretary, we heard from the

national security adviser but not directly by president trump. they don't want him to elevate what kim jong un has done so the president is talking about other things like policy toward north korea, not the specifics of the launch. the president did use a series of tweets today to address range of issues including china saying he would not call china a currency manipulator even though he had done that during the presidential campaign. because they are helping with north korea. top aides say that the president and the chinese president had a lot of time to talk about this when president xi visited mar-a-lago. more time than they had scheduled during the meetings and they believe that china is signaling that they're willing to do some things to help in this area. especially when it comes to their control and their influence over north korea. president trump is saying that trade is one way that they hope to bridge a gap with china by working together on that. to get china's support to try to block north korea's nuclear ambitions. it has been a busy weekend, but

it's been time for family. the president and first lady melania trump, tiffany trump, barron trump went to church services. s now tomorrow back to -- now tomorrow back to washington. a big test for the first lady. the easter egg roll. a tradition that goes back decades. it's also a logistical challenge of a really big scale. tens of thousands are often expected on the south lawn. will this new trump administration be able to pull that off? that's one of the questions for tomorrow. richard? >> kelly, thank you so much for. kelly o'donnell. north korea's overnight actions say a lot about what it might and can do next. john kelly explained on nbc's "meet the press." >> in the case of north korea, you know, a kinetic threat against the united states right now is not likely, but certainly a cyber threat. so we'd raise various threat

levels in the event that happen happened. >> as for a u.s. potential response, mcmaster said all options on the table. >> we're working together with our allies and partners and with the chinese leadership to develop a range of options and the president has asked the national security council to integrate the efforts of the department of defense, state, our intelligence agencies. so we can provide options and have them ready for him if this pattern of destabilizing behavior continues. and if the north korean regime refuses to denuclearize. >> joining me now, msnbc contributor steve clemons from the atlantic journal and courts. so much happening in the last 24 hours here. and the question really is, what is kim jong un thinking? what might he do next? he had failure overnight. might he go for a nuclear explosion, do another test to try to end this as a win for himself? >> kim jong un from his perspective sees that china

cannot completely shut him down because of the fear of collapse inside north korea. he sees the south korea paranoid and shaky because of what he might do. he sees japan and the united states trying to sort of either intimidate or to create pressures to get him to sort of change course. so kim jong un looks at himself as sort of, you know, the center of attention. and this center of attention typically misbehaves and tries to extort resources from the rest of the world in order to get him to behave. so right now, i think tim -- kim jong un thinks he has power and that's a problem. he's not going to pull back the provocations and stand them down. i think if he had a missile test that failed we'll see another one he launches fairly soon. he wants to remind the world

that north korea has nuclear weapons that's consequential and trump is on a collision course with that saying that, you know, he doesn't look like he's going to blink and acquiesce to north korea's behavior. so something has to happen between these -- between us and north korea or we're going to eventually collide. i mean, that's essentially what's cooking. >> let's go back to the kinetic threat. the words used so much in the last week and we look at the numbers. 18 to 30 nuclear devices believed to be held by north korea today. this compared to four to eight before. cig hekker who estimated that six or seven years ago. at the current rater, i was told that they could weaponize. the delivery system and the nuclear device within the next four years. would you agree with that? >> you know, i would. i have looked at siegfried hekker's works over the years. he was a proponent of deeper engagement with north korea to

find the most amenable parts of that regime and seduce them over, try to create splits and divides if you will. that doesn't seem to be possible now because kim jong un has killed off so many of his rivals. particularly within his own family. and so you have got a state run by a person who may be ruthlessly rationale in the way he sees things, but you have donald trump while he's surrounded by jim mattis and general mcmaster and others who have a lot of experience in dealing with north korea's theater, donald trump is not. and when you have two people who want to act like king of the hill it's very nerve-racking for everyone in between. what i suspect could happen down the road is that while i completely disagree with every analyst that's come on, that thinks that china is going to become an agent of american interests in dealing with north korea, china has a very, very different set of strategic objections with north korea. they do not align with the united states. while they may put on some pressure it's not the same way.

but in the end of seeing donald trump potentially getting himself ready to apply more muscle, japan and china may actually try and intervene and get us back into some sort of structure or talks. one of those weird things about this north korea situation right now is that there's no iran type deal on the table. there are no six party talks on the table. the trump administration says it doesn't want to talk. it says talk is over. but you have got to give north korea something to back into. >> you're bringing up president xi and china and leadership in china and in a recent poll of leadership down in china shows that national security is not the top issue. it's the economy there. >> it's the economy, it's other things and, you know, honestly china wants to maintain the status quo. but one of the things you have to realize that china and the united states are the largest overseas trading partners today. this notion that we're going to cut off our foot, you know, to basically separate ourselves

from china or vice versa as some way to influence china to sort of show that it is -- that its act chess to the u.s. -- access to the u.s. market is something we trade, that's also crazy. china knows it has enormous power of the u.s. economy, it holes $1 trillion in debt in u.s. dollars. they don't want to see anything really change in that. but this notion that we're going to have quick moves to solve north korea by using economic leverage makes no sense. >> how do you see iran and russia playing into this dynamic which is three dimensional, four dimensional in the discussion. >> i think that iran and russia and our nefarious players in the world, iran needs to abide by the most pieces of the iran deal and it would be nice the north korea saw that and abide by it. but as long as the united states remains deeply concerned and focused on what north korea might do, that gives countries

like russia and even china strategic depth in terms of trying to influence the united states. or to keep the united states distracted. right now, russia has shown itself not to be working with us on the fronts. russia would not really -- would not like to see north korea nuclearize beyond what it is now. but as you were told, north korea is a nuclear nationer already. it will have icbm capable nuclear weapons within the next 24 months if something doesn't preempt that. >> thank you, steve clemons. then there is the role of cyber warfare and what happened in the last 24 hours. for that angle i'd like to bring in lance james chief scientist from flash point. the reason why, lance, we want to talk about this, because the idea was brought up perhaps the missile that was tested so early on an easter sunday morning, i failed -- it exploded as the

u.s. command described it. the idea is we used cyber warfare coming from the west to make that fail. that's one area floated out there by folks like yourself. how would that work? >> there's operations on the military side called information operations. this is to degrade all of the pieces. which saw this with the supposed stuxnet and if it was u.s. and irani and if it was focused on the program there we saw that in action back in 2010. right, so what this does is there are groups out there within the information operation divisions of the military called c & o, computer network operations and they focus on building you know programs or malicious software pieces doing precision operations or precision information ops. they'll do recon and find out what's going on and if they find out -- or get into the country and a foreign asset that we want to degrade the nuclear program or whatever, they'll come in and basically add a payload or add a

piece in there that will then, take out that piece of equipment. >> it is like a super worm i guess? >> yeah. so stuxnet actually was a worm. it's interesting, it was a seven layer worm. probably one of the most costly developed pieces of malware for any kind of government agency to do. there's a super worm in the usual sense but it has to be controlled. if it hits the wrong industrial control, this or that, we could have problems. right, so in some sense it's similar to the naenvy s.e.a.l. operation, you can't go, we'll write this software it will go out there. it had to be planned, reconnaissance and the intelligence gathering. >> as has been reported iran and north korea share some of their infrastructure when related to nuclear capabilities and in this case the control systems believed to be siemens based and the stuxnet which went after

iran's centrifuges might work here now. >> so they know about that now, so there's defense, but there's an advantage. we have sanctions in north korea and in iran. they cannot upgrade to windows -- you know, they can't get security updates from windows. this plays a huge part in our operational plan, right so when it comes down to it you can't have the same security features as maybe we do in the u.s. or in countries that are not on the itar defense agreements. what that does, it could give the government access to find a vulnerability they can't deagainst -- defense against. >> power lines are a vulnerability? >> they are. the software that desgrats between the industrial and the control systems and the actual software themselves. they have been known even both here and abroad to be very insecure due to the way they integrate. >> again, we don't know whether they use a stuxnet like worm here or not. but that certainly has been discussed based on how quickly

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thanks for staying with us. at least 21 protesters arrested for a violent brawl at pro trump rally. a fight breaking out in berkeley, among anti-trump protesters yesterday. the police used tear gas on the crowds. in marked the third time they clashed in berkeley in recent months. nbc's catie beck has the latest for us. >> reporter: the event organized as a patriots day rally by trump supporters quickly spiralled into violence. anti-trump counterprotesters

showed up the two sides clashing in a public park. starting with shouting matches, then hurling objects across a barrier and finally turning into an out of control mob of physical assaults. police in riot gear arrested 21 people, 11 more were injured. several bloodied and beaten and sent to the hospital for treatment. knives, pepper spray, fireworks, stun guns, ax handles and canned filled with cement were confiscated during the incident. police continue to investigate saying they're actively pursuing more arrests associated with this rally. they are collecting any and all surveillance video and also social media accounts with video to see if they can identify those who broke the law yesterday and hold them accountable. emotions ran high on both sides. here's what demonstrates had to say. >> you know, these people don't belong in berkeley. they're just coming in to start something. >> this is cowards that want to wear masks and sucker punch people for what reason? they're just full of rage.

>> reporter: this is the third time since january an event at berkeley has turned violent. on march 10th fights broke out at the berkeley civic center and in february a violent protest cancelled a conservative speaking event at uc berkeley. again, the police taking this investigation seriously and hopes that this pattern doesn't continue. richard? >> thank you so much for that, catie beck, in california. next the world watches as north korea puts president trump to the test. how he responded and how that response could affect his entire presidency. next.

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we have some breaking news to share with you here at msnbc. it's coming out of cleveland, ohio. now, police there have searching -- are searching for a man they say killed someone on facebook live. they say he has also claimed to have committed other murders.

facebook live if you're not familiar with that you can broadcast live video through a facebook video online. that claim by the way that's been made has not been verified as of yet. by nbc news. we'll stay on top of this but again, cleveland police saying they're searching for a suspect who killed a person live on facebook and broadcasting that video through this social media platform. we'll stay on top of that and when we're able to confirm more details we'll it have for you on msnbc. despite the trump administration's recent tough talk and show of force near korean peninsula, they're aiming for a peaceful solution here and in the end it comes down to kim jong un. senator john mccain says it may be the administration's first real test. >> this is really very serious. this guy in north korea is not rational. his father and he grandfather were much more rational than he is. >> the rising tensions in north

korea come as the president still faces questions about the united states role in other international conflicts. a syria strategy is still unclear. some lawmakers insist that congress should play a role in both of these. >> i think going after assad in terms of the deliberate concentrated effort to conduct military operations would require the authorization of congress. >> joining me to discuss is a time contributor and a managing editor of "usa today." thanks to you both for being here. the big question -- i'll start with you, jay, since you're familiar with the hill on this very topic. is congress' role. do they need to now engage in both of these big questions? syria and north korea. >> well, that's certainly the contention of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. they want to see the aumf, an authorization for the use of military force done in either of

the circumstances. they believe that the president needs to come to them in order to do so. i think trump certainly in his first strike in syria where he launched 59 tomahawk missiles did not believe he needed to go to congress to get permission. it remains to be seen if he gets that in the broader involvement in syria or decides to do something in north korea at all. >> improbable aumf being modified here? we see two administrations lean on that for actions taken military around the world. >> no, you know, i don't think that there's going to be much change there. it seems that people are very comfortable with the action that president trump took in syria. so i don't see a lot of movement there. but i think as things escalate, there's going to be more pressure to look for some formal agreements. in both syria and in north korea. >> you know, one of the things that's come out of this, not only what the discussion is on

the hill, it's also the discussion at the state department. what we're seeing in the last 24 hours is at least a head nod toward soft power. towards diplomacy. and jay, that's the question as they have moved -- the trump administration to reduce the head count at the state department, might we be seeing a readjustment of that thematic? >> certainly, it strengthens secretary of state rex tillerson's arguments instead of these sort of draconian cuts to the budget they would do it -- phase those in over a period of three years. you see how needed it is to have this much staff, how you need to be able to pivot when there are things going on in the world which you might not expect to happen like north korea suddenly launching a bunch of missiles. look, it's very touchy as when donald trump met with chinese premier xi last weekend, there's a vai cup. there's weak governments in

japan and she doesn't see strong characters to help him out. if the u.s. needs to be a bigger presence there, well, that's something that you need to like appoint some very strong diplomat rns -- diplomats and get them in place. >> russia was in the headlines for several weeks, more than several weeks to be honest. and the russia connection question that's still ongoing. despite what has happened in north korea and syria. but the question might be do we see this now on the side no longer the headline? >> no, i mean, i think that the russia question is going to play into all of these things because they're all power players in the region. so when we look at north korea, we see that, you know, the trump administration is looking at a whole bunch of different options about what its next steps could be and in order to take those next steps they have to deal with both russia and china on these things.

so russia going to keep coming up and these connections within the administration are going to be play out. and we're going to see more of that. so these are temporary things. you know, so north korea is in the headlines today. obviously. but the missile launch failed o so, you know, i don't know that people will keep talking about it. i think people will keep talking about the russia connection. >> jay, your thought? >> certainly the russia -- it'sing, two weeks ago, russia was the ally and china was the bad guy and now china is the ally and russia is the bad guy. in two weeks' time it could be the opposite. we never know what the foreign policy will be. >> your thought on that flip-flop when we look at it. it's interesting that you brought that up. when we see the roles reposit n repositioned now, president xi is looking more friendly to president trump. >> absolutely. i think that's a huge thing as we start to talk about north

korea because if we go the diplomatic route, in north korea, then it's going to be very much dependent on china. for example, if we were to go with sanctions, if the u.s. were to impose greater sanctions on north korea in the past china has not let north korea suffer all that much under sanctions. so that is the kind of thing that becomes less effective. so it's going to all play into what path the administration decides to take with regard to north korea. >> see what happens after they finish their break, congress that is in terms of what they bring up narratively. thank you both, and have a good sunday. >> thanks, richard. >> thank you. next, death row in arkansas. and the legal rules that are keeping eight men alive for now. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer

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joining us here on msnbc, it's coming out of cleveland, ohio. police there they're searching for a man that claims he killed someone and then broadcast that killing on facebook live. according to police, steve stephens also claims to have committed other murders, a claim that has not been verified as of yet by officials there or nbc news. police are warning people that stephens is armed and dangerous. we believe this to be a picture of stephens. again, broadcasting a killing on facebook live. basically, taking his 230e7b -- his phone and broadcasting live a killing on that social media platform. we will continue to follow this. let's get you updates when we we can confirm more details here. a series of executions in arkansas on hold after a judge issued a temporary injunction on saturday morning. leslie rutledge asked the

supreme court to reverse the decision and remove the circuit judge from case. that would pave the way for the historic execution pace that was initially set to kill eight men in just ten days. here to tell us more about that, chief legal correspondent ari melber. what is the burden for removing here that judge -- that request here that's going forward? >> the burden is high and you typically don't see judges remove other judges unless there is an apparent conflict or some type of real misconduct. this whole dispute here is about how we do capital punishment in this country. about 31 states use this three drug cocktail. the supreme court has upheld it as constitutional but the drug companies have said they don't want to be in this game. that these drugs that are used in each step weren't designed for killing. and thus, there's this deadline in the case of what's availabled mecally to be used before its expiration date which is why

arkansas said they set this time line which many critics think this is irresponsible. >> so this was halted because of the actual injection, the medicine they're using in this case? >> that's correct. and the three step drug sequence, sometimes called a three step cocktail which seems ghoulish for something designed to take a life, but it uses the type of drugs that are designed to reduce pain. which in theory is considered a good thing but if they don't actually work, what they found is -- this happened in an oklahoma execution, people with sort of partially wake back up or being conscious in the second or the third step. doing it on in deadline, doing up to two executions a day, will it be done humanely or does that approach, that deadline which is about using the drugs in time does that complicate the proess is. >> drill down on that. the argument -- the critics are saying, you want to do this quickly. these eight individuals being executed over the course of 11 days because of the efficacy of

these particular drugs that are being used. and that's been -- that's been a strong point being made. >> what critics are saying is that basically each execution has to be done in the most precise manner possible. if there is some other external reason that the state is concerned about running out of drugs that shouldn't mean you for example, double up. you could think of hospitals that do much less intense procedures and they might not want to do two in one night if they can avoid it. here you have multiple executions and again in that oklahoma example i mentioned a process that was supposed to take ten minutes with the three drugs ran into 40 minutes and it was seen by critics to say it was unnecessarily cruel, it was painful, it didn't work well. the point being that this something that should be done more carefully not in this haste. >> if you're any of those eight that we show on screen there and the start and stop in this process, i can't imagine certainly what their lies are telling them those who are giving them information, what they're thinking which has been well documented. you talk about oklahoma.

there's been documentaries on that very case itself. you're probably going to cover this on your show, and in addition to that, you have a show starting in 22 minutes. >> we have a big episode of "the point." we are going to cover this serious case and we have speak involved in the cases. we'll look at carter page who continues to make news on the russia inquiries. we'll look at trump's foreign policy and what does it mean when he's leaning heavily son bombs and he needs china's leader to brief him on north korea and he hasn't even hired a special envoy to north korea over half of the diplomatic posts remain unfilled. we'll dig into the issues and it's at 5:00 p.m. eastern. >> there's the angle that he can't tell about, that he'll take on a topic. >> so true. >> it will happen between 5:00 and 7:00 p.m. ari melber, thank you. he shattered color barriers 70 years ago. now, american hero jackie

robinson will greet fans outside of dodger stadium stealing home in the form of a 77 inch bronze statue. it's the first statue built at dodger stadium and on jackie robinson day. his widow icon vin scully and several former teammates were in to celebrate. there it is. the trail blazer led a long, arduous journey serving as an ardent activist for civil right causes during and after his career. today, he stands atop a granite base inscripted with three of the famous quotes. a life is not important except the impact it has on other lives. all right. can't wait to see that. the president makes his seventh trip to mar-a-lago since taking office. next a look at the cost of protecting the winter white house and how these trips are taking a deeper toll on florida officials. stick around.

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there are so many great memories in this room. >> if the walls could talk. >> oh, is it me? >> no, that's just saying. >> this is where i met with the chinese president. >> that was at mar-a-lago. >> this is where i ordered the syrian strike. >> that was at mar-a-lago, sir. >> this is where i showed classified information to the japanese prime minister. >> that was in front of waiters at mar-a-lago, sir. >> well -- >> all right. "saturday night live" taking some jabs at the president's frequent trips to mar-a-lago. president trump by the way wrapping up his time for the seventh weekend of mar-a-lago at the 13 weekends celebrating easter sunday with his family. the associated press estimates the county spends over $60,000 a day amounting to $2 million since january. nbc's gabe gutierrez has more on

this. >> reporter: the white house as well as the departments of home land security and defense have not said exactly how much these trips are costing but while the white house insists that there are no conflicts of interest, ethics watchdog says the taxpayer funded trips are exploiting the presidency for personal gain. when barack obama was president, donald trump had harsh words about his travel trips. >> what's better than the white house? why these vacations? you're in the white house, there's so much work to be done. >> reporter: but now mr. trump's traveling often to mar-a-lago his glitzy, sprawling florida estate. also a private club owned by the family business. seven trips since he took office including another one this week, more than half of the weekends. >> we have the southern white house in florida. we get a lot of work done. there's no rest it's all work. >> reporter: who z what gone to the southern -- who has gone to

the southern white house? high level job applicants, policy applicants and members of congress many flown down at taxpayer expense and staying in high priced rooms and chinese president xi jinping. last week he stayed overnight at a nearby resort and japanese prime minister shinzo abe. businessmen like new england patriots owner robert kraft who travelled on air force one. and marine one. how unprecedented is this? >> i can't think of anything like this that we have seen at any time in the modern era. >> reporter: steve schooner an ethics expert at the george washington law school says that unlike president bush's trips to crawford ranch or president obama's trips to hawaii, president trump is visiting a private family business and he can mingle with club members who pay $200,000 just to join. >> the president should have divested from the properties to begin with. he shouldn't be traveling there on a regular basis on the public's dime and he shouldn't be driving business to his own commercial interests.

it's unacceptable. >> reporter: what's the price tag and who's paying? prime minister abe's stay was a personal gift from the president himself. and the general plan is to do the same for other foreign officials. the transportation, secret service protection, military support and the coast guard are paid for with taxpayers money as they are when any president travels. the white house won't say exactly how much, but the government accountability office estimated that a weekend trip in 2013 by president obama to chicago and south florida cost $3.6 million. the cost for air force one alone, $142,000 an hour. >> this is where he goes to see his family. he brings people down there. this is part of being president. >> reporter: but critics including a conservative budget watchdog group says the trips cost too much. >> there's room for improvement and the president would do well to try to figure out ways to save money for the taxpayer in the white house operations and in moving them around.

>> reporter: every time the visit presidents how much does it cost your department? >> about $60,000 a day. >> reporter: ric bradshaw said that's added up to 2 millions since the inauguration. >> we can sustain this for a while longer. if it goes many more months then we're going have to make some decisions on talking with the county, maybe get some contingency funds. >> reporter: in the eight years of his presidency, obama's costs was $70 million and trump's travel can well exceed that. it adds up to the president spending lots of taxpayer money conducting business and promoting his family at the same time. >> this is privately owned club that for all intents and purposes was another golf property in florida and now is something now that americans immediately recognize. imagine what you would have to pay to get that kind of brand recognition. that's extraordinary. >> reporter: at the request of

senate democrats, the gao will now review trump's travel to mar-a-lago to see if the expenses are fair and reasonable. local officials both here in palm beach and also in new york where trump tower is located is asking the secret service about reimbursements but they have not heard back. meanwhile, a palm beach county commissioner is looking at adding extra taxes on the mar-a-lago property to recoup some of the money. >> gabe, thanks so much. gabe gutierrez out of florida. stay with us, the latest on the report that a man has killed a person using facebook live video streaming after this. per roll more "doing chores for dad" per roll more "earning something you love" per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand.

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we continue to follow breaking news here at msnbc. reports here of a killing done on facebook live. that is a live streaming platform on social media. we are getting information only preliminarily here. cleveland police saying they're searching for a suspect.

this is the individual, this is the suspect that cleveland police are telling us about. murdering a person using again this live video streaming platform on facebook. we do not have more information at the moment that we can confirm and we continue to follow what is coming out of cleveland. on this very story. stay with us on msnbc for those developments as we do get them. as tensions in north korea rise, president trump is relying on his inner circle of advisers for guidance it is said. that includes his son-in-law, jared kushner and daughter ivanka. white house observers say the president is leaning heavily on family more. that he's soured on his once trusted adviser, steve bannon. kushner's responsibilities include the fight against isis, middle east peace, relations with china and mexico and reorganizing the federal government from top to bottom. ivanka trump has sat in on some meetings it is reported with foreign leaders and has her father's ear on multiple issues as well. both are government neophytes as

some call them and with a full blown crisis in the korean peninsula and tensions with russia, questions are being raised along the way. joining us again, matt bennett from third way and the managing editor of "usa today." thank you both for sticking around for this. you know, that really is the question. it was on the front page of "the new york times" today and that is the question -- i'm reading the title from the article it says that young couple rise as pillars of family driven west wing. we kind of outlined that here, donna. what is what are you hearing in terms of the influence. the question is how big is jared kushner's portfolio now? >> so, jared kushner has actually now gone on trips representing the president. he's gone to the middle east. he's gone to iraq. so these are -- this is a really big portfolio. he's also taking on the on opioid epidemic. so it seems like it's a growing

portfolio and i think the same can be said for ivanka who it seems has always had her father's ear. >> matt, what are you hearing? >> yeah. precisely the same thing. they're clearly -- there's clearly a massive struggle going on inside this white house between the forces represented by kushner and by gary cohn who's the head of the national economic council. also a kind of new yorker who is suspected by people who back steve bannon as being too moderate for this president. but as you were noting in the outset, bannon may be out of favor in part because he took on the family member in jared kushner and that is an extraordinarily bad idea when you're a member of the white house staff. >> especially in the donald trump administration and donna, the steve bannon question in terms of what is his role right now as we know he was recently removed from the security council. that was a major development as well as his -- another one of

mike flynn's lieutenants. big change there on the security council and so the question is where does bannon go from here because he's so crucial to that base that got donald trump into the white house. >> i think for now bannon is safe. you know, he's -- i don't think president trump is going to, you know, risk losing that base of support. and, you know, i also think that he is used to running a corporation. and government tends to move really slowly and that's what we're used to. we're used to stability. and i don't know that president trump regards personnel stability as highly as, you know, perhaps some others who have held that office. i think that whoever is -- he's working with is -- who's going to be in favor. >> you know, matt, what was noted in the article here is that when ivanka leans over and does talk to her father, donald

trump that's when he does listen. the question in this white house with the president of the united states, should not the president be listening to his other key advisers just as intently as his own daughter? >> of course he should. and it's very problematic when you have a family member who is also a member of the staff. i worked in the clinton white house and as you'll recall early on hillary clinton was essentially a very prominent member of the white house staff. she was running the health care reform effort. she testified on capitol hill. it was known as hillary care. and when that failed, that was difficult because she wasn't going anywhere. you can't fire the first lady so it is really problematic when your closest advisers are people that cannot and will not be removed. no matter what. >> we have to continue to learn from the articles written as well as those who are telling us who are giving us the leaks basically at this moment in terms of what's happening at the white house. matt and donna, have good

sundays. >> thanks. you too. that does it for this hour. i'm richard lui. catch me on twitter, instagram, as well as facebook on these particular handles. thanks for sticking around. we'll have more on the breaking news here on msnbc. that we're telling you about coming out of cleveland. for now, "the point" is next with my colleague, ari melber. have a great day.

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hello. i'm arir melber in new york. welcome to "the point." our special coverage of the trump presidency and stories beyond the headlines. bomb first, ask questions last, how trump is leaning into the military tactics before gathering all the facts on the foreign policy challenges around the world. and just some guy? steve bannon, holding on to his job this weekend but facing a rhetorical demotion as trump diminishes his role. plus the approval ratings sky high for one sector of the