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kornacki. >> tonight, elizabeth warren will join rachel maddow tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern on the rachel maddow show. you can see this guy right here, chub todd on meet the press daily. if it's wednesday, is it a good day or a bad day for the democrats? tonight, the real lesson from the georgia special election. we have a new battle ground in american politics. the sunbelt suburbs. >> this comes down to grassroots intensity. and it is that momentum that will carry us. >> did the president help or hurt republicans yesterday? the answer is yes. >> the president will make sure that he does everything he can to maintain majorities and further party. and the "o'reilly factor."
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bill o'reilly is out at fox. what he meant to cable tv. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening i'm chuck todd in washington and welcome to "mtp daily" and what appears to be the new battleground in american politics. the suburban sunbelt. democrats didn't win last night's special electionout right but they came awfully close and they have another shot in a couple months. since no one broke 50%, the vote will go to a runoff between top two vote getters. jon ossoff and karen handel, the top republican in an extraordinarily big field of republicans. if you add it up, essentially it was a tie. was last night a good thing? right now both sides are selling it like it was good for them. >> a few weeks ago they were
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saying a democrat can't get more than 42, 43% of the vote. he is already at 49% of the vote and there's a lot of energy out there. >> this was a big loss for then. the bottom line is they went all in on it. they said their goal was to get 50% of they came up short. >> here's the reality. he didn't win the seat. yet they have a chance. yet they did prove what was supposed to be a ruby red house district isn't so red anymore. and a very bad omen. in 2005 republicans held on and won a tight special election in ohio. it was a republican seat. then they lost control of congress the following year. is georgia 6 like that? itill be close in june. theresidential race was close in november and very close last night. it may foreshadow a realignment in politics. there are nearly 40 districts
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that look like the georgia 6. mainly in the suburban centers in the south where president trump won less than 50% in the general election. democrats hoping to capitalize on what could be the changing districts. we are seeing it in the northern tier in the country hadn't gotten yet to the suburban southern districts. folks, it is very possible the road to winning the house will go through the suburbs, atlanta, phoenix, houston, dallas, and orange county, calf. and here's what might give democrats some hope. they didn't even try compete last november. for example, in the texas 32 congressional district, the republican pete sessions won by 52 points because democrats didn't even run a candidate. hillary clinton won the district by 2 points. clearly this is a swing area. democrats just hadn't found any democrats. so georgia 6 any indication. it is a remind per a decent
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candidate with sufficient resources can have a shot. and then there's trump wild card. did he help or hurt last night? the answer is yes. it may have been the difference. but guess what, he is also trump, he fires up the democratic base and he is trump which means anything can happen sometimes. joining me now, the man responsible for holding on to the republican house. congressman, welcome to the show, sir. >> great to be with you. >> so let me ask you. a fair assessment i you're head of the committee that you can find positives out of last night? >> absolutely. there was something for everybody last night. the good news is we get to fight again in june on june 11 and we get to consolidate around one
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great candidate and i feel confident she'll be the candidate. >> when you look at it, there's clearly some democratic energy going on in some places that hadn't been competitive in the past. how concerned are you as the republican charged in keeping the house in republican hands? >> i try not to get too concerned. we saw it coming is that we headed it off and we got where we wanted to be. we need to make sure that we win but we don't need on cover the spread. last night, a win was moving to june 11. we had 11 candidates in the race and they had one and the republicans got almost 55% of the vote. and the democrats combined, there were three, so more republican does show up yesterday. but special elections are just that. they're special. they're unique and bits who shows up.
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the base is certainly fired up but our base has been fired up two races in a row. the democrats winning more races and we're winning races. >> the question last week was, was the republican infighting going to have an impact? i want to play this for you. >> they opposed the republican plan to repeal obamacare. they fought the bill to defund planned parenthood of they attacked republicans of now the special interest group club for growth is spending big to prop up bob gray's failing campaign. >> now, look, i've been around a long type covering these club races. club for growth and the nrcc fd their disagreements in the past.
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does this undermine your efforts in some of the republican races? >> i will admit i was worried about it. but just last night, bob gray endorsed karen handel. we're well on our way bringing everybody behind karen handel as our nominee. i feel very confident that she will win on june 11th and wee make sure we're there of and i hope the american people will join us by going to nrcc.org and throw a can you please bucks in the kitty to keep this seat red. >> when president trump tweeted, the freepd caucus will hurt, does the nrcc have a pleng that you support every incumbent, period? no exceptions. >> so we have not traditionally supported incumbents in primaries. if a member he would pay their
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dues, it is a volunteer organization. when they pay their dues, they join. we will be there to support them but i'm not worried that we'll be fighting against the president. he's been very suprt and i feel confident this is all going to work out and we'll be able to not have a problem. >> so essentially, to be supported as a member of congress, you pay your dues. if you don't, there's no guarantee? >> with, you have to join the organization. it is a volunteer organization and members get a chance to choose whether to join it or not. most of then join and i hope they all do. this is a great way to tell our member that's might not be in, it is time to join. >> finally asking about president trump, was he helpful or hurtful when it came to getting turnout? >> in the end, he was helpful. 194,000 people went out and voted in a special election in
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georgia yesterday. that's a huge turnout. he turned out more republicans than democrats. in the end it was positive. >> is it a trump phenomenon in the southern districts or is this essentially the case that perhaps some of us are making that this is inevitable in the northern suburbs, when they became battlegrounds. and now it is in the south. >> we'll have to wait and see if they are battlegrounds. candidates like pete sessions won very comfortably. you're talking about districts like those. and frankly, they won pretty comfortably a few months ago and they're great candidates. they represent their district. i feel very confident that those members will win again.
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>> i know it is early to say, are you telling your members to run a local race or don't be afraid of embracing a nationalized campaign? >> well, i generally think that most races are local. but there's always a national component to it. all of our districts, our members need to represent their district and fit their district. that means the campaign will be sort of local. >> meaning if president trump helps, you bring him. if he doesn't, you keep him away? >> you have to fit your district. absolutely. >> all right. congressman, it is just beginning. i imagine we'll be talking more. you have a big job ahead of you. thank you for coming on. >> thanks for having me on. joining me is an expert on house elections. i have to say, for somebody charged with running one committee, he seeped to be not whistling past the graveyard here.
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>> he's very realistic. he's had competitive races of his own. the house is in play. if you look at the pecking order from 1 to 435, which districts, what kind of districts will put democrats over the line for the majority in 2018? this would be in that range of districts wlaflt we had was republicans combining for 51% of the vote. democrats combining for 49. that at the me it is rae close. we don't know which way the house is headed. >> we've had this conversation when we watch these returns rowing in. did hillary clinton carry what? she almost carried georgia snooks the pete sessions district? we're going, did the democratic party know about this? that the southern suburbs have become competitive? or was this a trump thing?
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no. something has happened. >> this is larger. the democratic party, whether they win or lose next year, the well educated south, the sunbelt. if you think about the south, it is still urbanizing and there are parts of the north that are deurbanizing of the and neither side fully anticipated that heading into 2016 but now they know where it is leading. >> it is almost accelerating. in 2014 ask then 2016, you a of those industrial districts, the president used to win back. in new york, michigan, ohio, they didn't do that in 2016. >> and it was like a week left to go before the election last november. i was getting some weird numbers out of these rust belt, upstate new york, northern wisconsin districts. we were seeing trump leads that were 7 points this september become 17 points.
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that was the private polling that suggested it would be tight. >> democrats didn't even try against pete sessions. one of the reasons they would have been by such a comfortable margin, it was candidate that didn't have the resources or the party the did not take seriously enough. they were so wiped out, particularly in the southern races, do they have candidates on make enough of these seats could that will pet i have the? i think there would be too many people who want to run in these districts. they had problems finding people last time. there are two big forces helping democrats. obviously the base is really fired up. they're really angry with president trump. i don't think there's an end in sight to that. second, the replican base. republicans don't have much to sell them and we'll see if that changes. >> the republican turnout did show up.
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there were people who didn't think it would happen. that point that the congressman made, in the end they did show up. >> at the very last minute on election day. a lot of people didn't know who they would vote for. the two big advantages, mid terms tend to start out wider and older. and the maps should favor republicans. could that be enough to offset? >> we have a few other specials popping up. montana. it is montana. testers won statewide. democrats haven't talked it up. considering they improved, do they play in mondtana? ryan zincy is there. >> in monday tan, a it is the entire state. i think it will be competitive.
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you have a really interesting character on the democratic side. there cowboy poet rob quest running against a multimillionaire businessman of so that cultural aspect is on display. >> and then one more throughout that hasn't gotten any attention. also in th single belt. nick mulvany's seat. that was represented by a democrat. he replace ad democrat in that seat. what's going on there? >> the reason i'm will skeptical, that's a really racially polarized district. in georgia 6, they're moderated in their politics. there's less wiggle newsroom south carolina's fifth. are you fired up? >> the house may get attention. there you go. david wasserman, thank you. it doesn't matter where the race is or who the candidates
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there are 566 days until the 2018 mid-term elections. but we probably already know which two politicians will be their party's respective boogie men and or weapon on the airwaves. the sixth district already got a taste. >> is this what responsible leadership looks like? donald trump just tried to take health care away from that's including over 57,000 people in our district here in georgia. >> nancy pelosi's liberal agenda put america $20 trillion in debt and jon ossoff is on her side. >> that's right. it will be democratic ads
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cautioning against increased power for donald trump and public ads warning of the return of speaker nancy pelosi. contbutor of "time" magazine a, so there it is. it will be trump versus pelosi. >> at the risk of saying the entire election will be nationalize asked we know that's not necessarily true. it is not where you stand. it is where you sit of or the other way around in this case. i think everything in the era of trump is about trump to some degree. and trying to get policy through. even in washington it is almost impossible. i was skeptical. i saw ads still with pelosi. and knee 14. she is already out of power.
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you talk to these candidates. she is the most unpopular democrat. that's what 2018 could be about. >> you guys did a poll about the disenfranchisement. i would say this is what 2018 will be about. if you talk to focus that are rae republican, they are ones had will be less likely like nancy pelosi. a l of millennial voters w't know who she is. she was not reigning during their time. but they know they don't like donald trump. i think increasingly we'll be seeing, are the babyboomers going to continue to dominate the south? or will we see millennials stepping up? >> i remember the republican consultants who were trying to make a black sheep out of harry reid. and voters never really had a
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negative reaction to harry reid. as soon as the consultants put nancy pelosi in an ad, it was get her out. i don't want her in power. so if there's one sure bet, it is nancy pelosi who is less popular than donald trump. she is very unpopular. >> it is obviously harder to be the defender of the party in power than to be the challenger. you can sort of brush that off. but could get awkward. the districts they have to win are not places she is going to be. going after someone, she may be the leader of the democratic party but doesn't have a leadership position as a whole. >> i think it motivates republicans to turn out. >> so nine out of ten most educated districts in the country are held by democrats. the one exception was georgia 6.
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and it might still swing to a democrat. but in those districts running against nancy pelosi, in highly educated districts, it is not that effective. >> i was struck by ossoff saying to me yesterday, i said what is the message if you get sflektd and said i think the voters are saying, we have to start blaming each other. we have to solve problems. okay. democrats have to recruit candidates that can win swing independents in these southern suburban districts. they have to denation allies. they pulled it off in 2006 because they were only running against bush. i think the southern suburban voters. >> the democrats are benefitting from this enthusiasm. it is anti-trump enthusiasm.
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so if you're a candidate like jon ossoff, you don't have a mention of all you know, you're benefiting. >> they don't know if he needs one. >> he might win one in the run-off. >> i think what we're finding, at the end of the day, people who were obama trump voters. there was not a clear economic vote mention. they didn't like everything else trump was talking about but felt he had the economic message. so i would say you're going to see people with the economic run-off message. >> his solution so far is i want everything to be like uber. that might appeal. >> that's what is important to know. the woman who won the republican side of the contest ran almost virtually against trump. she dingsed herself from trump and said, i'll work with him. >> but now she's saying, come down and campaign for me. so that will be interesting.
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>> i'm curious, the nrcc air. he made it very cheer abouthe idea of supporting incumbents. if you are a member and you pay your dues, wee support you. that has always been the rule at the nrcc but it has never been articulated so clearly. >> like casablanca. i'm shocked, shobd. to say you want our support as a republican, hint, hint, freedom caucus members who aren't paid up, pay up. >> the party is searching for an identity. that's the problem. you saw the tweet congratulating chaffetz from paul ryan. he said liberty limited government. trump's mention is more solidarity and protection.
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so you see karen handel. she's a republican. >> but i think one the of pieces that we're not paying tank to is that you have over 84 republican districts. not republican. there's a 4% or more. that's a new equations that we didn't have. and the more pressure they're facing, the more they're going to participate. we saw in it georgia in 2016. >> i think the most immediate part moving forward. talking about what the strategy going forward. and this absolutely gives them incentives to not do deals. they'll say why would we give you a win when we could win back the house? >> and they feel like they have to worry about themselves before
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donald trump. >> trump made a bet. that he would pull voters and sacrifice voters in traditional public states but not enough to lose. so he lost voters in georgia and texas. >> by the way -- >> what's good for trump might not be good for the house. >> if we look at texas. the fact now you have cruz pulling below castro and o'roarke, that's signalling that texas might be in play. >> look. someday it will be in play. >> to win 48% in georgia 6, donald trump. he won 48% of the vote. >> all right. fair enough. >> you are sticking around. we'll take break here. 9:00 p.m. eastern, senator elizabeth warren will join rachel maddow to discuss president trump's agenda. and will she has a book she's selling.
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bill o'reilly will not return to the network. they release ad statement saying they've reached an agreement after a review of a gagss against o'reilly. they said that they paid out almost $13 million in settlements over sexual harassment claims of the he's been off air on a pred plan vacation since april 12. o'reilly release ad statement in part that said it is tremendously disheartening that we part ways due to completely unfound claims but that is the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today. i will always look back on my time at fox with great pride. >> usually i don't like to be part of story but o'rio is not just a cable news host. he was a leader in the conservative movement. a bulwark in the last decade or so. it was the most watched cable news show, it helped drive conservative narrative.
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even as he wasn't always the most conservative guy on his own network and he made its host one of the most influential commentators on tv for more than two decades. he even turned it into a book selling career rewriting history. despite advertisers fleeing from his time slot, his ratings have gone up since the allegations were made public. what he says to viewers matters and he was one of the most trusted and most popular hosts on the fox network. so what does this mean going forward? joining me on the phone, a conservative author and regular host and msnbc contributor. you spent years being a radio host. explain the influence of bill o'reilly on today's -- basically, a today's conservative media? >> well, in the conservative ecosystem, there are a few gate keepers. the people who really sha opinion, and he was certainly one of them. not the only one but you reflect
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on the extraordinary political developments over the last few years. how the political movement in a party that talked about how character matters became a party that embraced donald trump. one of the reasons was it had gate keepers like bill o'reilly and roger ailes. apparently they get that they would be able to survive any of these it's controversies for many of the same reasons that donald trump was able to survive them. they could blame the media and the vast left conspiracy. they could count on the noise machine to protect them. and of course, going out, never admitting fault, never apologizing. it is iron pick this tactic worked for donald trump but not for some of his major cheerleaders. >> a year ago if you said donald trump will get elected president
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but roger ailes and bill o'reilly would be fired from fox, i think somebody would have asked me what i was smoking. >> it is genuinely remarkable that apparently, we have higher character standards, for cable news hosts, no disalmost intended, than for the president of the united states. no doubt about it, the conservative movement has been shaped and formed by this echo chamber in which, and fox has been the center of this. talk radio, many of the blogs. this has created the political environment we're in now. one of the reasons we see the poes we do, is because there is a, there is a rae kind of a, very, very effective. we use the terp, the media ecosystem that was really forged, even though as you point out, they're not necessarily
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conservative. and bill o'reilly is certainly right there. you look around and some of the things that have happened this year that are quite extraordinary. the fall of roger ailes was extraordinary. milo loses his breitbart job. i think it may be discovering that the prools applied to trump may not apply to then. >> is there a vacuum in leadership? as a business, fox news will be be fine. they lost one host. but who fills that vacuum? o'reilly was the bulwark against political correctness. that was what he was more than anything. less an idealog, quantity uncommon for bill o'reilly and sean o'hannity. it could be bright bart.
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there could be a lot of players. >> that's a very interesting question. these outlets are businesses and ultimately, bill o'reilly's departure has less to do with his content than the fallout from the business. this is something that i'm fascinated by. if there is going to befully turn in terms of the conservative support for donald trump, it will have to be the folks in the conservative media who will take that position. who will stand up to be the fact checker. who will be the one to say okay, we'll thing far but not this far? i think there's a reluck attention on these conservative leaders including rush limbaugh to get too far out ahead of the crowd. to get cross ways. he will drive ratings. 86% of republicans still support him.
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so i think there will be a great deal of reluctance to move away from the pack. i think bill o'reilly could do this. i think he was tough enough that he could have had an effect on this campaign had he chosen to exercise that kind of credibility and clout. >> what happens to fox should you can say as a rhetorical, not the business, as far as comment eightors are going, they're going for less diversity of opinion on the right. it is opinion on the right but there was diversity. they have some. you listen to chris wallace and brett bair. >> they're jurnists. i'm talking about the
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commentator rose. i think that he's pointed out, they have apparently made a decision to become much more trump friendly. and i think that again, going with where the conservative movement and the audience has been going. i think that you look at this lineup could that paired to just 12 months ago. and it is decidedly more pro trump. and decidedly less diverse. >> charlie sikes, a member of the media. and an obsession that combines three of my obsessions. plus, more and more americans are getting more and more comfortable criticizing the president.
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welcome back. every night i'm obsessed with politics and data. when they come together, it is like hat trick. i'm obsessed with a poll about how sports fans view president trump. check this out. our friends at marist and found pout among sports fans, president trump's approval is at 37%. when you break it down by sports fandom, it is interesting but not that surprising if you're a consumer of political polling data. nascar fans are by far the most enthusiastic about trump with 50% prove. hockey fans have a higher approval rating of the president than sports fans overall. baseball aficionados track
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closely with the nation overall at 39% ask football fans are exactly in line with the overall fan base at 37%. tennis fans take a dimmer view. 51% disapprove. of all the sports fans, it is at 28% why. are all of them the most pro trump? they're more like i to live in rural southern parts of the country. on the other he believed of the spectrum, basketball fans who, ?here do they most likely ve? urban and suburban centers. wherwe've been talking about the divide in american politics. in reat, the sports divide is the american divide. i kept her p all night. she said the future freaks her out. how come no one likes me, jim? intel does! just think of everything intel's doing right now with artificial intelligence. and pretty soon ai is going to help executives like her see trends to stay ahead of her competition.
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o'reilly exit is a much bigger deal for the conservative movement than maybe even i believe. >> i don't think you could write the history of the media industry 100 years from now without having a chapter on bill o'reilly. >> no doubt. >> in terms of the conservative movement it's interesting because o'reilly always called himself an independent. he was speaking like you said, antipolitical correctness was his main issue. it was always about the folks. he'd always talk about the folks. he was the populist. >> he wanted to be that. >> that found him at odds with the republican party much the same way trump found himself at odds with the republican establishment. interesting thing is, without o'reilly, you have a lf more people who support trump, but aren't maybe as tuned into the current of american politics beyond trump that o'reilly was and is. >> i always view everything through the lens of women. i write about women. for me this is an important moment for republican women. having gone through the whole
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groping thing with trump during the election, then seeing the ouster of roger ailes and these moments now where they're forcing advertisers to pay attention and they're finally saying, no, we're not going to put up with this attitude on fox. we're not going to allow this to happen. in fact, trump did lose educated white women for the first time a republican lost them forever because of those allegations. so, this is a moment where finally republican women are saying this is not cool, we need to stand up and be heard. certainly all the lip service i've seen in the lay day or so talking about o'reilly, yeah, it's a new new era, it's time for the tone to change in the republican party when talking about women. >> and yet there is going to be some that view what happened to o'reilly as, look, political correctness run amuck among corporate america who forced fox to do this. >> right. >> i just wonder if there is going to be a backlash. does breitbart take up this anti-corporate backlash of this. >> the scenario phrase, when
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everybody went after nordstrom from pulling from the republican base, ivanka trump's sales went up online. it will be a marker of women saying as a republican woman i'm going to stand firm and make sure we are holding other people accountable. it's all about at the end of the day purchasing power we have not seen in a long time consumers flex and see real results. the last time we saw this was when cnn fired lou dobbs over the anti-immigration rhetoric he was doing. >> who fills this vacuum? again, fox's ratings aren't going to impact any of that. i'm not talking as an industry. o'reilly gave voice to, you know -- who fills that vacuum in the party? >> it's hard to say. one of the large stories in the last two years has been the decline of gate keepers of all kinds, right? whether they're within the conservative media, national review had that big against trump issue. it didn't have any impact because we've had the rise of social media, new media,
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youtube, twitter. the media eco systems now, you can't control them and that's something that i think president trump is has used to his advantage. as he says, i have my own means of communication. so, do we really need another o'reilly? >> i think o'reilly does not go away just because he does not have -- all of a sudden has these other means. he has a lot of folks that are like mindede can cobble together. >> it's tough. >> part of the reason it's tough is the people he speaks to every night are an older generation that rely heavily for their news on tv sets. they're not necessarily going to move to a different medium. if he has a base of young folks that are looking for him, that's a different story. >> i'm sure he'll have a book, too. >> or six. >> that book series, killing o'reilly. on that front, i want to shift gears a little bit. it was interesting, and it's
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light, republican senator joni ernst, maybe he should spend more time in washington, d.c. than mar-a-lago. he promised to release his tax returns. these are questions at town halls, it's almost like more republicans are feeling comfortable at least trying to draw their own lines maybe of how they want to get cozy with trump or not. >> it's interesting because back in the day when you and i remember like the george w. bush party where everybody had to toe the line and you all had to speak the same language and have the same messages and do these things. the era of trump is so different where they don't mind if people goes off reservation because he goes off reservation all the time. >> you're not going to have mike pence calling up joni ernst and saying, you can't do that the way dick cheney might have done it. >> different people are showing up to town halls the way they didn't used to. they're relying on individual donors to pay for their races. shoot, if i go back and my constituency wants health carol
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and the president is against it, that's going to hurt me. >> joni ernst, very practiced, knows what she's doing. if she's raising the slight criticisms of donald trump, i think it's probably in other republicans' interests to follow her lead to see where you believe you can pressure him and where to draw back. notice it's on the personal stuff and not the policy. that's a space maybe he should release the tax returns, maybe he should stay at the white house more. >> an important point they feel comfortable on the person than policy. great panel today. interesting day, thank you. after the break president trump isn't giving up on health care reform. wait till you see this interview that good overlooked today. stay tuned.
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in case you missed it the president either seems to have missed that he lost the health care fight or he is very rosy. mr. trump is still telling people he's going to get health care passed and soon. he said it to our own affiliate in milwaukee yesterday. >> i think we are going to have a big win soon because we're going to have health care and i believe that's going to happen. and, you know, there was no, like, loss with health care. this was just a constant negotiation and the plan is getting better and better all the time. >> that's right. that was present tense. he told a crowd in wisconsin his administration has the, quote, concept of the plan and a full announcement is on the way. that's quite a pledge, especially considering it's a fight the president has already lost once. but it does tell you that there is nervousness among some
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republicans. can they go to the ballot box in 2018 and ask voters to send them back to control congress if they don't fulfill the pledge on health care. that's all we have for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more mtp daily. for the record with greta starts right now. greta, there are so many places you can go today. good luck. >> i don't even know -- you're right. where do you go today? thank you, chuck. >> you got it. >> in a surprise news conference, secretary of state rex tillerson slamming iran including explicit comparisons to north korea. >> an unchecked iran has the potential to travel the same path as north korea and take the world along with it. united states is keen to avoid a second piece of evidence that strategic patience is a failed approach. the jcpoa fails to achieve the objective of a nonnuclear iran. it only delays their goal of becoming a
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