that does it for us. i'm headed back to the white house for the press conference later on today. i'll see you there. i will see you, ali velshi, next hour. >> nice to see you. i'm looking at this day, it is beautiful out there. this is what they put on the brochures, you know. nice to see you, hallie. catch you at the white house later on. tough talk. the trump administration is turning up the heat on iran, threatening to pull the nuclear deal. meanwhile, a new push to force north korea to the negotiating table. we'll have the latest from tehran and seoul. back in the legal limelight, this man. judge curial was attacked by donald trump on the campaign trail with a case over trump university. now, it's about the dreamers.

i'll talk to the attorney who represented one of the women who first brought a sexual harassment lawsuit against bill o'reilly. the latest now that o'reilly is no longer a factor. good morning, everyone. i'm ali velshi in washington. we begin with a new escalation of tensions on multiple foreign policy fronts. among them, north korea warning this morning of a, quote, super, mighty, preemptive strike, as the trump administration considers its next move. russia talking aggressively -- or taking aggressive, new action. two nuclear capable bombers, like the one you see here, twice this week flying close to the alaskan coast. one causing u.s. fighter jets to scramble to intercept them. now the trump administration is opening a new front with iran. secretary of state tillerson accusing tehran of sponsoring terrorism throughout the middle east. he is also condemning the landmark nuclear deal created by

the obama administration and warning that iran could be the next north korea. >> unchecked iran has the potential to take the path of north korea and take the world along with it. this represents the same failed approach of the past that brings us to the threat of north korea. iran's actions threaten the united states, the region and the world. >> although secretary of state tillerson acknowledged iran is complying with the deal, president trump is now considering whether to rip it up. we have all of this covered with our nbc correspondents here and overseas. let's begin in iran. nbc news tehran bureau chief has reaction from iran's leaders. >> good morning, ali. well, when america talks tough to iran, it doesn't usually go down very well here. secretary tillerson certainly had strong words. hard line elements in the country have yet to comment. as this election campaign heats up, i'm sure it is going to be a

hot topic. today, foreign minister zarif, who spearheaded the nuclear talks, weighed in. tweeting earlier, worn-out u.s. accusations can't mask its admission of iran's compliance with jcpoa. obligating u.s. to change course and fulfill its own commitments. ali, it is important to note that zarif and his posboss, the president, are in this deal. they doutouted the deal as tyin political fortunes to the success of the deal. if it's in trouble, he's in trouble. also, secretary tillerson's tough words are not going to bode well for mr. ro ha rouhani. he faces the possibility of becoming the islamic republic's first one-term president. if he is replaced by a staunch hard liner, most of what we've

seen with iran and the west since the nuclear deal will probably be rolled back, making it almost impossible to negotiate with iran in the future. the big question that remains is if america tries to re-negotiate the deal or imposes new sanctions, what will iran do? the supreme leader, who holds all the cards here, has warned of dire consequences if america violates the terms of the deal hech and he may think it is more prudent to enrich uranium again. how does the u.s. square this with the pk plus one, all involved in the talks. they want the deal to stay in place. does it leave america out in the cold if they want to pull out, or can president trump convince them it is best to drop any support for iran? it is a complicated situation, and it remains shrouded in uncertainty. back to you. >> ali, thank you. as we talk more about the iranian elections and the iran

deal, remember, you will hear the ak -- acronym jcpoa. that's the official name for the nuclear deal. kelly cobiella joins us from seoul, south korea. good to see you. state media there in north korea is warning of a, quote, super, mighty, pre-emptive strike. what do you know about this? >> yeah, north korea today threatening to reduce the united states to ashes, more belligerent talk from the north koreans today. likely a reaction to that statement by secretary of state rex tillerson yesterday, that the u.s. was looking for new ways of pressuring north korea on its nuclear program. also, potentially a reaction, frankly, to the military exercises taking place here. the u.s. putting f-15s up in the sky with south korea today. these are long-planned military

exercises. they happen every year. and every year, north korea views them as a provocation and threatens war against the united states and its regional allies. so no big difference there, aside from the very heated talk, likely as i said, a reaction to mr. tillerson's comments. another interesting message coming out of north korea today, as well. this concerns that nuclear test site in the country's northeast. the same nuclear test site that analysts said was primed and ready for a sixth nuclear test just last week. well, the new satellite images are in. they've been analyzed. they were taken on sunday. and they show three, ongoing volleyball games at three different places on this nuclear site. so what do they mean? analysts say they could mean that the site is, as they said before, primed and ready. the crews are on sort of r r&r,n

standby, waiting for a signal from pyongyang, or it could be another deception coming from north korea. it is guesswork, they say, at this point, ali. what we do know is that north korea knows we are watching and listening. ali? >> kelly, thanks so much for that reporting. kelly cobiella in south korea. iran and korea, stories we are following closely. let's go to chris jansing here at the white house. let's start with north korea. the trump administration, chris, is now considering putting north korea back on the list of state sponsors of terror after having been removed from that list by the bush administration. what's the significance of this? >> well, i think you're going to look and see exactly how much action this administration decides to put behind its words. secretary tillerson hinted in his press conference yesterday that putting it back on the list could happen. as you mentioned, the bush administration took it off in

2008. after the country agreed to, first of all, dismantle one of their plutonium plants, but also allow inspections that would verify where it was with his nuclear program. but the secretary of state can add a country to this list because they believe that they have been, in a very provable manner, sponsored terrorism. there are three countries on the list right now. iran, sudan and syria. why would it matter? it would matter because automatically, what comes along with being put on the list is a series of sanctions. ali? >> chris, let's switch to iran now. what is the timeline on how america moves forward with this joint, comp herehensive plan of action, the so-called iran deal, that donald trump campaigned to rip up. i don't know if he said day one. all the candidates were talking about ripping it up very fast. what is the time line on deciding the course of action? >> they've taken step one. they say they're going to do the review. it is overall looking at the

iran policy. the second part of it is very specifically looking at this deal. looking at the iran nuclear deal. and we don't know how long, exactly, that is going to take. obviously, it is very complicated. this was the p-5 plus 1. there are other countries involved, including key allies in europe. you know, secretary tillerson didn't give any indication of exactly what president trump, when he was going to decide about this. what we do know is that there's going to be a lot of pushback about this because if, indeed, there was some decision, for example, to impose sanctions, which is not tied to terrorism, we know, and we just reported from the secretary of state on tuesday, that they're complying with this. so the question is really, what would the pushback be? what would their justification be, and how would our allies react? a lot of critics say, should

they decide that they want to rip it up, so to speak, and this doesn't do it. we need to say very clearly that what the secretary of state said does not rip it up. but should they decide to do that, that would mean that the united states was backing away from a deal they made, which is something that would make a lot of countries very nervous. >> you bring up an important distinction. that one can impose other sanctions, specifically on iran, without necessarily ripping up the iran deal. we'll have to keep that in mind as we go forward on this. thanks a million on that. chris jansing at the white house. let's bring in the republican scongressman from florida. the president is dealing with a host of major, major foreign policy issues right now. russia, north korea, involving china, syria and now iran. let's start with north korea. critics say the president's rhetoric, including tweets like the one he sent the other day, when he said north korea is

looking for trouble, is escalating tensions with north korea to a dangerous level. i've heard some of your republican colleagues saying it is a good thing we're finally talking tough with north korea. where do you stand on this? >> well, i think -- thank you for having me on, first. i think we need to be very clear yet very firm in how we respond to the madman. in 1949 when we define ened th m perimeter to exclude north korea, and china was upset they attacked south korea afterwards, we have to remember what would happen if this guy pursues territorial aggression. >> even the most basic could affect a major ally of ours, japan, or south korea, which has 28,500 u.s. troops. that has been the case for a

very long time. we've struggled with this question you pose for a very long time. in your opinion, what's the best avenue? is it china? is it donald trump chumming up with china, as we saw happen a couple weeks ago at mar-a-lago? >> i definitely they given the geographical relationship between china and korea, that china is in the best position to help us control the madman. it worked well during the bush administration, as well, as you were talking about in the preceding segment. >> let's talk about iran now. a little surprising to me, given how much is on the foreign policy menu at the moment, that the white house has opened up a new front with iran. we were just talking, you probably heard my conversation with chris jansing. when that deal was made, everybody understood that it doesn't address the fact that iran has extra territorial ambitions, does sponsor the houthis, hezbollah and others, but this was designed to control iran's nuclear ambitions. what's your thought on where we stand with the deal, given that we have evidence that iran is

respecting at least the nuclear part of things? >> they may be respecting the nuclear part of things but as long as they're supporting terror and committing huge human rights abuses and trying to become the hedgemon of the midde east and trying to concert shia dominance, we shouldn't be giving them money. >> china has human rights abuses. president trump called turkey'serturkey's erdogan the other day to congratulate them. they have human rights abuses. why is china different? >> they have an capacity to cause mayhem in a critical part of the world. >> let me ask you about your former role. you are the u.s. ambassador to the vatican.

there has been criticism of president trump's administration not asking for a meeting with the pope. what's your thought on it? >> i don't know what his agenda is. i know george bush visited the pope, i believe, every time he came to italy. maybe president trump has too crowded of an agenda. i hope aeearnestly he will take moment to meet with the pope and see what the holy sea can play a role in that area of the world. >> they shared words before. is there bad blood there? >> i don't think there's bad blood, per se. i think pope francis has strayed into some areas that cause concern for many conservatives like me in the united states. whereas pope benedict was much more aligned in articulating the

evils of islamic terrorism and how we can fight it. >> congressman, good to talk to you. thank you for joining us. hope you'll come back again. republican congressman rooney from florida, a member of the house foreign affairs committee. right now, outside fox news in new york, protesters are demonstrating against bill o'reilly. he's on leave after fox news had a storm of accusations. we're going to talk about the decision to separate from bill o'reilly when we come back. exxonmobil reportedly wants back into russia. new reports say the oil giant is asking the trump administration to waive sanctions. how the secretary of state, who happens to be the former ceo of exxonmobil, plays into the decisi decision. i'll talk to one of the wall street journal reporters who helped break that story. le. heavily into basketball. wait. data just changed... now she's into disc sports. ah, no she's not. since when? since now. she's into tai chi. she found disc sports too stressful. hold on. let me ask you this... what's she gonna like six months from now?

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we're following new developments this morning after the bomb shell that fox news parted ways with bill o'reilly. there are indications that more women could come forward and accuse him of sexual harassment. this comes after 21st century fox announced yesterday that it came to an agreement with the fire brand host that he would not return to the network after a series of accusations. in true fashion, o'reilly is not going out quietly. nbc's senior investigative and legal correspondent, cynthia mcfadden, joins me with the latest on what's happening. cynthia? >> good morning. 21st century fox, the company

and bill o'reilly agreed the anchor will not return to fox news channel after what they call a thcareful review republin th . >> reporter: the king of cable news is dethroned. >> bill o'reilly is leaving this chair and the network. >> reporter: the cable show once bearing his now, now "the factor." o'reilly fired after sexual harassment allegations. saying, in part, it is disheartening we part ways due to completely unfounded claims, but that is the unfortunate reality many of us in the public eye must live with today. the reality is, more than a half dozen women accused bill o r o'reilly of sexual harassment. fox news and o'reilly paid more

than $13 million to women. ads have been pulled from the o'reilly factor. o'reilly denied all allegations against him. it is a stunning downfall for the man who anchored the most lucrative broadcast in cable news. >> thanks for watching us tonight. >> reporter: it generates $178 million in ad revenue in 2015 alone. five major players left fox news in what has been a devastating year for the cable network. among them, former fox chairman and ceo roger ailes. he resigned after former anchor, gretchen carlson, filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against him. the first domino in this dramatic turn of events. 21st century fox settled with carlson for a reportedly $20 million. ailes denied the allegations. with o'reilly's ouster, fox may have been trying to get ahead of other possible alleged accusers. >> i know more accusers. some have now told me, well,

there is no point in coming forward now. he's been fired. others may have lawsuits against him, and they may file those lawsuits. >> reporter: o'reilly out of the country on a family vacation shook hands tuesday with pope francis in the vat ranican's vi line. a contrast to his firing hours later. this morning, the no-spin zone is no more. >> this morning, "national geographic" and publisher reportedly say they have no plans to sever ties with o'reilly, who has projects in the works. inside fox news wednesday afternoon, staff was stunned to hear of o'reilly's firing, especially as the network's bosses seem to praise him, even as they pushed him out the door. >> doesn't get weirder than that. cynthia, good to see you. thank you so much. senior investigative and legal correspondent, cynthia mcfadden, setting the stage for more discussion on this. some of the sexual harassment

allegations against bill o'reilly go back more than a decade. one of the most high profile came in 2004 from a then-producer at fox, andrea. according to her lawsuit, which reportedly demanded a $60 million settlement initially, she claimed o'reilly propositioned her several times and repeatedly told her graphic stories of his own sexual escapades and fantasies. she even claimed when she confronted o'reilly about his actions against her and other women at the company, he told her, quote, if any women ever breathed a word, i'll make her pay so dearly, she'll wish she'd never been born. o'reilly's countersued, claiming she was trying to extort him. the two settled out of court. the details confidential. o'reilly told the viewers, quote, there was no wrongdoing in the case whatsoever by anyone. i want to bring in benedict, andrea's lawyer. he prerepresented her then. good to see you. >> morning. >> you were shaking your head

during the report. what was that in response to? >> well, i have a lot of responses. one is that bill o'reilly still refuses to be contrite. the interesting thi about this investigation by paul weiss, what had nothing to do with them letting mr. o'reilly go -- they let him go because of the advertising money and because of the stock price going down. it's all about the money. it's not about the -- >> you don't have to convince me of that. people are telling me there is a cultural shift in fox or the country. i think neither is true. this was pure economics. paul, by the way, is the legal firm that was handling that investigation. let me ask this, in the settlement, i know you can't talk much about it, when you say he's not being contrite, he was not contrite in the settlement you were involved in. is that not a normal course of

events in a settlement? did you ask for an apology? >> i wasn't in a position to ask for an apology. i unfortunately had to tell andrea that i don't do causes, i do cases. that's what she retained question more. i knew because of her position, if she was very famous and on the air, she'd work again. but she was somebody no one knew. she was just a producer there. she would have never worked again because she brought this lawsuit. so i had to make sure that i maximized the settlement for her, because it would have to last maybe a lifetime. >> the language that bill o'reilly used about that settlement is almost identical to the language he has been using for the last couple of weeks. about being targeted, about it being entirely unfounded, don't believe everything you read. does this -- how does andrea feel about this? is she feeling vindicated, or is it re-living the same

victimization? >> she reached out to me yesterday, but i was in court. i will be calling her and speaking to her today. i will ask her that exact question. but i think that she was so upset back then in 2004. she wanted nothing more than for him to be relieved of his duties. now, i guess, she probably feels that, hey, now you know i was telling the truth. by the way, fox news knew in 2004, bill o'reilly knew in 2004, no one pays millions of dollars to anyone unless there's concrete, ir repureputabl repur >> in fairness, there are nuisance claims that are settled. some companies don't go through it. if you're a rich person working for a rich company, you might pay it. >> i said millions. >> he's made hundreds of

millions. fox makes billions. i'll tell you you're a lawyer so you know. >> sure. >> they have responses. o'reilly said in a statement yesterday, quote, it is disheartening we part ways due to completely unfounded claims. how do we digest that? >> well, i think, you know, now that he's gone, we don't have to digest it. we know that although he was telling everyone in the country that he was in a no spin zone, he is the spin master. and because he has three books right now on the best seller list, we're not going to have to throw any benefits for him. as you saw, the publishers are sticking with him. because it's all about the money. >> benedict, good to talk to you. thank you for joining us on this. benedict is andrea's attorney. i want to bring in my colleague, stephanie ruhle, to talk more about this. stephanie, i want to talk to you about the economics of this. first, it is important to note,

you not only spoke with one of the recent accusers today, but you also spoke with gabe sherman, the new york magazine writer who has been breaking the news all along. he said that o'reilly was out before it happened. he was on your show. tell me about those conversations. i saw gabe saying that sexual harassment at fox was on an industrial scale. >> industrial scale. i just want to point out, ali, to benedict's point, fox making this move, it is about money. this is a chance where money and morality are lining up. but it is not like we're seeing this massive cultural shift in terms of equality. to your point, the big companies with lots of money settle these nuisance suits, that is not what this is. we are not in a place anymore where companies are paying millions of dollars to some woman who says boys aren't nice to me at work. these are real, systemic issues. i want to share a bit of what gabe sherman had to say earlier today.

>> bill o'reilly operated within a system that roger ailes created, which allowed women to be subjected to serial sexual harassment. many of the lieutenants that roger ailes promoted at the network with still there, including the co-president, bill shine, the general counsel, diane brandy, who many describe as enablers of sexual harassment. >> what the people named are, they might be big names in fox news, but within the 21st century fox empire, they are not big news. and this turns your attention to the broader company. rupert myr rupert murdoch's sons, who have a different sensibility than the culture we talked about at fox news. now, they're in the throes of trying to acquire in europe sky, which is the pay tv platform. it is an $11.7 billion transaction. it would value the whole franchise, the whole company, at almost $23 billion. they need to get regulatory

approval. this is the second time they're up at bat to do this. this is a prize for james murdoch. they tried to do this in 2011, and it didn't go through because of political pressure. they pulled the deal because of the phone hacking scandal. then in 2013, james said, sky tv is the future. that is how they unlock their future in europe. they're just a month away from getting regulatory approval. they do not want to get hung up on an ethics issue with a sexual harassment case here in new york. >> ultimately, stephanie, this issue of culture change, i would think that the last few years, and even the last year, have shown us one thing. there's one swamp that's not getting drained. that is the swamp of culture that considers it acceptable to continue to objectify and harass women in the workplace. i think we're maybe on the same side on this one. i think it was pure economics that forced this. i don't think anybody had a second thought about it at fox or the advertising companies. i think they realized they

couldn't financially continue to support bill ro'reilly. i don't think there is a culture shift. >> i think james murdoch doing the partnership, the deal to buy national gee i can't ha"nation, interest level. the sons, who is the future of the company, see this business. what they didn't have until now was the economics on their side. they had the sensibility, the point of view, but now they've got 50 advertisers walking out the door. they've got this sky deal, which is major to the entire conglomerate in front of them. they now have the mojo to push against their father, to say this is a new school way. we are going to drive forward. remember, while bill o'reilly may be the biggest star over there, that's a machine they built at fox. the beat goes on. >> stephanie, great to see you, my friend. stephanie ruhle covering the story expentensively with us.

fox news protesters are demonstrating. stephanie is at msnbc, across the road from fox news. there are protesters outside of fox news protesting against o'reilly. the board is meeting today. it is a regularly scheduled meeting. we're going to continue our coverage of this when we come back. the so-called dreamer, reportedly the first to be deported under the trump administration, is fighting back in cruourt. how this case ended up in the hands of a judge who president trump called out because of his mexican heritage. ♪ ♪ after becoming one of the largest broadband companies in the country. after expanding our fiber network coast to coast. these are the places we call home. we are centurylink. we believe in the power of the digital world. the power to connect.

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so president trump may soon find himself facing off again with the same judge who was the target of trump's frequent and scathing attacks. this involves a new legal case brought by this guy you're looking at, juan montez. he is reportedly the first so-called dreamer deported to mexico by the trump administration back in february. montez quafies for protection under theeferredction for childhood arrivals program. it's called daca.

he's now suing the government for access to records explaining how he got deported. the judge selected to preside over the case is this man, curiel, who was assigned at random. now, you may remember that then-candidate trump repeatedly attacked curiel over his mexican heritage, as he oversaw the lawsuit against trump university. >> i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump. a hater. he's a hater. his name is gonzalo curiel. >> he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico. the answer is, he is giving us more unfair rulings. >> judge curiel, the so-called mexican, was born in the state of indiana. last month, he approved a $25 million settlement deal between trump university and students who say they overpaid for seminars that trump -- trump

never admitted wrongdoing. joining me now is ari melber. despite the fact that the judge may be a fantastic judge, does this very vocal and visible spat between the two during the campaign create any conflict of interest? >> no, not at all. if it did, that would only incentivize people making attacks on judges, which are rare. the history you point to is important because, of course, trump university was a business designed to give people business advice that went out of business. people then sued, feeling they were taken advantage of. they effectively won by settlement the $25 million. after all the heat and noise, which is some say a pattern with this president, the truth was that he didn't fair well in the case. judge curiel never had subsntive issues and donald trump paid the $25 million right after the election. professor clark who spoke to us

earlier today said, the fact the president tried to pick a fight with judge curiel doesn't mean he gets knocked off cases against the government. that makes sense. the larger question is how this high profile test of the dreamer issue will play out. >> what would -- if you were president trump's lawyers, what would you be advising? that he calls out that this is unusual? a judge he had a thing with is looking at the case, or he say nothing? >> if i were president trump's lawyer, who is the first question i think about every day when i get up in the morning, lawyers almost always have the same piece of advice for clients. whether they're powerful ceos, presidents or a random person caught up in litigation. that is, do not speak out of court. it will only hurt you in court. it will never help you in court. judges of any kind, local judge or fancy, supreme court judge don't like cases tried in public. they look at what's going on inside the courtroom, not out.

presidents are different. though this president is especially loud and different, presidents are known to comment on cases before, during and after. they have other jobs and clients. i would be somewhat surprised, honestly, if president trump went down the road of personally attacking this judge again. but anything is possible. i think the larger policy question here though is does this case reflect something about tougher immigration policies or not? the fact is, the february data does not show increased deportations yet. the question on everyone's mind from a policy level is not this individual case. the facts are in dispute. but is there a concerted effort, through enforcement, to undo the programs, which to be clear, the president at a policy level said he would not be undoing daca. >> jeff sessions yesterday said he's not. said at the same time, if you're in the country or got here illegally, regardless of how long you've been here, you shouldn't feel safe about the whole thing. on a legal basis, this is a confusing issue. ari, good to see you, buddy. thank you.

>> thank you. coming up, new reports say that exxonmobil wants to work around u.s. sanctions on russia. the american oil giant is reportedly requesting a waiver to go back into business there. what both sides of the aisle are saying about the new development and about secretary of state rex tillerson, who used to be the ceo of exxonmobil. 's her proble? apparently, i kept her up all night. she said the future freaks her out. how come no one likes me, jim? intel does! just think of everything intel's doing right now with artificial intelligence. and pretty soon ai is going to help executives like her see trends to stay ahead of her competition. no more sleepless nights. - we're going to be friends! - i'm sorry about this. don't be embarrassed of me, jim. i'm getting excited about this! we know the future. we're going to be friends! because we're building it.

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is seeking a waiver from u.s. sanctions against russia. the company wants to resume a joint oil venture with a russian state-run business. the russian state-run oil company. according to the report, exxonmobil renewed its efforts for approval this march, shortly after rex tillerson was sworn in as secretary of state. you can see the irony here. tillerson is the company's former ceo. the state department, among other agencies, would be involved in approving the waiver. however, a state department spokesperson said tillerson is recusing himself from matters dealing with exxon for two years. still, republican senator john mccain responded to the article, tweeting, exxon seeks u.s. waiver to resume russian oil venture. he started with tweet with, are they crazy? joining me now is the journalist who co-authored the piece. this is one of the crazy stories. they're doing what? the sanctions against russia involving not doing business

with exxonmobil and not drilling for oil, particularly in the arctic, something the russians can't do without exxonmobil, was one of the biggest parts of the sanctions against russia for invading ukraine. >> what's interesting is it is not just a company and the ceo is not just some person. these are basically vladimir putin's closest allies. the cash cow in a lot of ways of the kremlin. you're right, they needed exxon's technology to explore some of these regions in the black sea, the arctic. for russia, it is very important, and that's why the sanctions were in place. for exxon, the sense we got in our reporting is that they need to start drilling at some point by this year. if not, they risk losing this venture and their other european companies that are moving in. it's not like -- the optics are terrible, but for exxon, they're like, if we don't move now, the venture will die. >> exxonmobil is a very big company. at times, the world's largest publicly traded company.

certainly the biggest energy company. but, in fact, there isrussia's exports are their lifeline economically. >> it is huge. president obama used to say, this is what they sell. russia makes money with oil and gas. without that, they're not a strong economy. yeah, the sanctions were very much targeted to hit the company. in 2014, described it as a loyal lieutenant of iran. the dual is unbelievably political. in this environment in the united states with the investigations into russia, the concerns about collusion, you know, the optics and timing of this attempt to get back in is not great. >> what has a better chance of happening, this deal or me sprouting a head of hair? >> it seems unlikely. mccain is going after it. adam schiff, leading the investigation on the democratic side into the russian hacking and other things, they're

already out. exxon is a powerful company. i think they are looking at the fact that european countries have gotten waivers. they're saying, this is not fair. >> some business sense to it. they're saying someone is going to do the deal if we don't. someone else will. >> correct. it is not a crazy argument. but the politics are such that it is -- >> the optics are terrible. good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> wall street journal reporter and the author of the article. you have to read it. it is an important article. who the next president is going to be of america's oldest ally, france. the top candidates have extremely different platforms. could brexit will followed by frexit? when we come back. if you have medicare

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pen. daily beast writer -- the insane french elections that could [ bleep ] us all. he didn't use [ bleep ] in the title. what a beautiful shot behind you, in paris getting ready for this thing. you drew the short straw on the assignments. you joke about this but you say victory for either one would mean an end to the diplomater order, why do you feel so strongly about that? it is not that i feel so strongly about it instead they feel so strongly about it. both of whom are very pro russian feel like they want to get out of the european union.

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