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under president trump, the shield stands ready. >> traveling the same path at north korea and take north korea along with it. >> i am doing what i said, serve and get out. >> as far as north korea is concerned, we're in good shape, iran has not lived up to the spirit oaf the agreement. >> thank you for watching msnbc live, right now "andrea mitchell reports." >> terror in paris. a manhunt is under way for suspects in the attack. days before they have a presidential election. marine le pen accused of trying to exploit the attack. does she have an ally in the u.s.? president trump says they will
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have a big effect on the election in france. >> it looks like another terrorist attack, and what can you say? it just never ends. we have to be strong and vigilant. >> ready to launch? is north korea ready to laup mu -- launch another test. >> their word is not proven honest. te has been provoc ti, so i would just take their word at the same value we have always given them. we have learned not to trust them. >> coming up here on msnbc, former deputy national security advisor ben rhodes. and bill o'reilly may be out, but his accuser is speaking out saying there is a lot more work to do. >> we need to know the full
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extent of his damage to woman's lives, what happens when a corporation throws money at a problem instead of not addressing it. he wasn't the only one that actual sexly harrse sexu sexually harrassed me at fox an they have more house cleaning to do. and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell, president trump and his national security team. size is trying to claim responsibility for the attack, but the suspect appears to be a home grown common criminal out a connection to the group. joining us is matt bradley. first, what do we know now? i know the officials there are
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briefing on their man hunt. the latest on the investigation? >> there is a portrait that is emerging of this man who is a 9 39-year-old who killed a french police officer behind me. there was a profile for the kind of attacker who pulls off these lone wolf attacks here in europe, and kereem would fit th that. he was born here, he doesn't have a history of islamic terrorism. he smoked, drank, and rarely went to mosques, but they found texts praising islam. the man hunt for him is -- sorry, for what is thought to be his poliaccomplice is ongoing.
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he was killed last night. what everybody is looking for here is an effect on the come coming election on sunday. marine le pen has been calling on the closing of france's borders. it looks like a last ditch permanent. >> thank you, matt bradley on everything in paris. kristin, we have to better understand, i don't know what white house officials may be saying, if anything, this tweet from his account today saying another terrorist attack in paris. the people in france will not take much more of this, it will have a big effect on presidential election. is he pulling for marine le pen? >> that tweet would indicate that he is, but he is whochoosi
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his works carefully. some of the policies that le pen is calling for is in line is trump. he stopped short of directly enendorsing her for this race. we saw him make a prediction about which way the vote would go. he is more restrained in those matters. >> also on the subject of north korea, we have all been watching and waiting. there are signing this could be a nuclear test, the chinese are preparing, what does the president mean when he says the chinese are really helping. we have not seen big signs of chinese pressure on north korea. >> when you talk to administration officials they point to the fact that the
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chinese for the first time said they would limit coal imports. we also understand they may have laid down a specific threat as there seems to be more and more indications that north korea is leaning toward and prepares to launch another nuclear test. so the president yesterday praising the president of china saying he feels very good about the direction of his talks with the president of china. he feels like the president of china is putting more pressure on north korea than we have seen in the past, but the question is will it work? and that is a question that remains understand answered. >> kristen welker, thank you to you. here is what president trump had to say in thursday's news conference. >> as far as iran is concerned, i think they're doing a tremendous disservice to an agreement that was signed. ly have something to say about it in the not too distant
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future, but they have not lived up to the spirit of the agreement. >> ben rhodes is a policy advisory. it is good to see you, thank you so very much. let's talk about iron firan fir. the agreement that you were involved in, in the secret talks that led up to that negotiation, but at the same time they have certified and tuesday night, said that iran is complying with the terms of that deal. what does it mean not living up to the snirt. >> it is a yes or no question, and yes, iron is complying with the nuclear deal. it is certainly a case that there are other behaviors like support for terrorism that we objected to. he would rather have the country
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not have a nuclear weapon. they certified themselves that the deal is working. and they should stick to it. >> the criticism has been, of course, that one negotiated deal that doesn't deal with it, so obvious that iran is a bad actor. >> the iran deal is how you avoid north korea. we have expecters in iran. we have limitations, so they do not have a nuclear weapon. in north korea you see when there is no deal. you would prefer to not have a second nuclear crisis. if they tear up the iran deal, they will be basically creating a second nuclear crisis for themselves when the iran deal solves that problem. >> what if the administration
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proceeds with tougher tan eer e, or congress does, because of an illegal missile program. could that get iran to break out of the nuclear deal, or would they have to deal with the consequences? >> there is room to impose sanctions on iran for issues like terrorism. it cannot reimpose the sanctions being relieved under the nuclear deal. there is face to designate individuals, entities, but what you cannot do is get back into the deal space and take the sanctions relief and take something like terrorism or missiles as an excuse not toly up to our end of the deal. >> president trump said, and there is a lot of factual basis for this, he inherited the north korea situation, going all the way back to bill clinton, north korea is a nuclear state.
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it has, according to the estimates i have seen, 13 to 30 nuclear weapons. we don't think they yet have the long-range capability to deliver a nuclear warhead to the mainland of the united states, but that is -- >> that is a concern. >> what should they do? they have now threatened and pointed to the mother of all bombs being used in afghanistan. >> well, first of all, i don't think that makes any sense. i don't think there is any indication that north korea will give up their weapons because president trump drops a bomb on a syrian airfield. i think what has to happen is a coordination of pressure and sanctions on the north koreans, but then the pursuit of a type of diplomacy that at least
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freezes their program. you don't want to to evolve to a capability to be able to hit the united states. what they have done and said is they have issued threats, raised expectations, their patience is over. all kinds of, i think, loose talk around the direction of north korea. i don't think they really know what to do to follow through on their tough talk? >> what about the argument that they are working the chinese card better than you guys did? >> ke did the same thing with the chinese and we got them to go along with the toughest sanctions yet. and it's not clear what they're asking the chinese to do. there may be symbolic announcements, but what pressure can they apply?
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on one hand, he says he is working the chinese, and he said in ten minutes he was convinced they don't have that magic influence. i don't think china can pull a lever and north korea gives up their nuclear weapons. we have seen the regime disobey what china would prefer in terms of their own fornl policy. you can't put all of your eggs in the basketba of china solvin it for you. >> there is a lot of reporting that jim comey launched an investigation into possible collusion and russian hacking all the way back to july. regrets that the obama white house did not blow the whistle sooner than october 7th when they made the announcement of the investigation. >> you were the deputy national security advisor. >> fbi investigationing are not briefed to the white house when they involve criminal matters in
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the united states. perhaps if it was a terrorist property. i think it is something that people don't understand. and we have seen it mischaracterized how it operates. they make their judgments on their own. they're not directed by the white house. essentially if jim comey launched that in july, that is bagsed on his own judgment if is not something that would have been directed out of the white house. >> and with devin nunes, the house intell chair, and all of the suggestions of what he had done, gone to the white house, we don't even know precisely from himself, at least, who was involved and whether or not the intelligence agencies would be ta ta tasked, but what role would susan rice have had?
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>> susan rice is a national security advisor, not the fbi director or the attorney general. frankly what i think we saw is that a disgrateful attempt to smear her reputation yet again for doing her job. even what they are alleging she is is a very routine thing that a official might into in the course of their day. she was the latest example of them trying to justify a false tweet from from president trump about being wiretapped. they know there is no evidence to substantiate that. she did her job, admirably, and they owe her an apology. >> ben rhodes, thank you for coming in today. common ground, can democrats find any things to work with president trump on?
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president and not working with him. >> i think it is the best interest of my constituents, i think he is dangerous. >> max seine waters leaving no m for negotiation with president trump. congressman, nice to see you, thank you for being with us. do you agreen with maxine waters because you have exchanged letters and conversations with president trump. >> let me say that maxine is a mentor and a good friend. keep in mind that a lot of this russian investigation stuff, a lot of it will come before our committee. i would guess that at my urging there was more letters going out and investigating the trump clan, secretaries and others, than anyone in the congress or senate.
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so on the one hand, i have to do an investigation. on the other hand, i have to represent my constituents. just last night we had a town hall meeting here in baltimore where some 80 people gave senators a standing ovation. in that session, a young lady got up and she said i'm 28 years old. the affordable care act saved my life, but i get up every morning wondering whether or not i will be able to get the medication to address my stage four colon cancer. so in four years, that lady could be dead. the four years that trump would be in office. so i have a duty to work with the president and many of the things that maxine waters is talking about, she is absolutely
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right. we're finding out more every day. there will come a time when the truth will come in contact with these false statements, made by donald trump, president trump, and others. and then a judgment call will have to be made. in the meantime, i have to go down both of these tracks. i have to represent my constituents, and i have to do a fair investigation. >> i also want to ask you about your college, jason chaffetz who is not running for reelection, may take an early retirement. you went back to a statement saying he fundamentally changed the culture on our committee to members can disagree without being disagreeable. i wish him and his family all of the best in the next chapter of their lives. bipartisan.
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>> yeah, you know, i think what happens on the hill andrea is people get so caught up in fighting each other, and when i say fighting i mean arguing of course. they forget that we're all human beings and we're all only on this earth for a short time. when i look at the way he treated me and my staff, it is like a sbriebright new day. i'm just calling it like it is. and that allows us to be, to disagree, but even in those disagreements, we still understand that it's not personal. but we are trying to do what we believe is best for our constituents. and it makes life a lot easier, i'll tell you that. >> keith ellison last night, the minnesota congressman and deputy democratic party chair had this
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to say about president obama's legacy. >> he could have been a better party leader. i think the fact that he wasn't put his legacy in jeopardy. his legacy is the work that he has done which i believe is tremendous, but given that we do not -- we lost a lot of state house seats, governorships, his true lig is is in danger and i think he can't say he was part of those losses, who else? >>. >> what do you think of that verdict? >> first of all, keith is a good friend of mine, but when he says who else? i would say all of us. we should have been party building a long time ago.
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part of the problem is when president obama got elected in 2008. a lot of people got so happy and so excited about this african-american president that we forgot to continue to push to make sure that the state houses were filled with our representatives. so you have all of these houses controlled by republicans and with governors at the helm. we have a lot of work to do. i believe that his legally is be in tact, and i can tell you if you walk in my neighborhood, and listen to some of the young member, they now hold their heads up higher. they know they have a possibility of becoming the
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president of the united states of america. >> and. will be giving his first speech since leaving office on monday with young people and students there as well, it will be interesting to see that. >> thank you for being with us. >> late thursday night, arkansas convicted ladell lee, he was the first person to be put to death in a decade. . he was pronounced dead shortly before midnight local time. it followed widespread criticism of them for rushing excuses because of chemicals being outlawed at the end of the month.
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next week. my question is which one is more important for you to have? >> i want bothed. are you shocked to hear that? >> president trump desperate for at least one legislative victory before he hits the 100 day mark. chuck todd is host of "meet the press" and the "1947 pod cast." a very cool one going on right now. claire danes, anne frank. it's great. >> also a great singer, but let's leave it there. let's talk because let's talk iran. can he get health care with one legislative day? he has to worry about an
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extension for the continuing resolution. >> i think he signalled he knows he can't get it next week. there was no throwing down the gaunt le gau gauntent. he sounded like a guy who is low pressuring saying -- you do this this week, it could gum up the works on the funding bill, you don't want to face a shut down. so it sounded to me like a president who understood that washington is slower than you want sometimes. >> why take on iran, rhetorically, at the same time you're dealing with real nuclear weapons in a real north korea where you have minimal intelligence and you don't know
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where tough is. >> there is -- let me take the iran issue first here. i think some of the iran stuff is posturing, but we do need to remember that he has -- there is a -- more of a drive to figure out how to do a couple things when it comes to iran in this administration that is much different. the obama administration accepted the idea that ryan will be a player in the middle east. there is a lot of people that would like to figure out can you drive a wedge between iran and russia? if you can drive that wedge, can you isolate iran in the middle east. so they would like to see tougher actions, but i think all of this rhetoric was plus ter. they had to affirm the deal. i think they got blow back and they said what they had to say. even the president said "spirit of the deal" never the letter of
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the deal itself. it goes back to the first negligence briefing that president elect trump got. and the first unofficial back and forth on the concern over north korea. this is a concern that has carried over and i think there is just more and more concern, it seems, because of the o opaquness. he smartly ignored it, but that is what policy makers are wondering. is he a fully rational actor. >> it is rational to hold on to your nukes if you watch what happened to moammar gadhafi and others that have given them up. if your mission is survival of a regime, then having nuclear reps that you got from your father --
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>> iran is watching how we deal with north korea. there is plenty of people in the administration and around the world that are all realizing each is watching how the world handles both of their ambitions. >> and much of the world is watching the rhetoric about iran and worrying that as bad as they are, they have elections on may 9th. the last thing you want to do is end up with more radical regime because of anti-american sentiment. >> and that is, you know, here you had the moderate of the group of people that were allowed to run the last time. and that is, that is a concern, and we seem to be more comfortable, this administration seems to be more comfortable taking sides on the proxy wars
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with yemen and bahrain. they were a wink and a nod, but this is more blatant. >> adam schiff said they're back on track, they're scheduling sally yates. getting past the nunes era. the whole russian hacking investigation has all been submerged by the concerns of nuclear weapons, north korea, iran. >> and another reason it has been on the back page, congress is not here. congress comes back, and i think the russia investigation, the committees, you'll start seeing more of that action. there has been a pause because
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they have not been here, not holding as many hearings and things like that. if you're the trump administration by the way you're ending your first 100 days next weekend, and then the sally yates testimony, not the best way to start your second 100 days. this sunday, chuck has an exclusive interview with nancy pelosi. coming up here, hillary clinton staffers fighting back against a new book highlighting the dysfunction in her 2017 campaign. the coauthor, jonathan allen, joining me next here on andrea mitchell presents.
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respond, there was a statement yesterday that disputed some of the facts of the book. this was our live for two years, so to see a sensationalized book with inaccuracies is hard. the rest of the resound social security inwhich we told the authors. an indication that whoever they were speaking to did not know. we understand the book they wrote about a win had to be turned into one about a loss. we don't think this should be cobbled together with sensationalized anecdotes. >> and you said it all in one breath, you get two breaths to respond. as much time as you like. >> we stand by our reporting. i can say that all in one breath. >> is there a call where he said
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i'm sorry? was there two called? how do you -- >> there was two calls. one where the president encouraged her to concede to donald trump. there was a second call that was a consolation call. there was always the white house political director, it preceded the president's call to secretary clinton in which he was trying to indicate to them there was no chance they would win and that the secretary needed to con seize, and there was always a call from president obama to john podesta saying that hillary clinton needed to concede to trump pl up of the calls happened, but you can't drag this out, we spent the last couple months talking about the continuity of democracy. if you drag this out you will under mine that. you see at this moment a celebra
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separation of the two powerful players. back since 2008, she wasn't to work with him as sick tear of state. the moment at which it becomes clear that trump has won the vote, president obama's role and his interest in that is to preserve continuity. her interest was making sure every last vote got counted and if there was any chance of a change happening overnight or through a recount that that was not cut off. that is painful for everyone in the democratic party, and i believe all of the moments in this book that one of the times where she hooks most sympathetic, and any reader should be, is during this period where the calls are going back and forth and there is a realization of a loss. and it hits her that she bears responsibility for the election of trump and there can be debate
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about how much of that falls on her, but this is a real human moment for her, and you know, it -- i'll just leave it at that. >> and standing at the headquarters that night, when john podesta said we're not giving up. by the time i got in the car to go a few blocks back and rejoin everyone onset, she was conceding. clearly something happened between the time that podesta came out, and that was the call from the president saying you have to. >> i think the only thing worse than a campaign written about a winning campaign is a book about a losing campaign. it's hard to r read about everything you might have done
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differently. i'm not surprised they would have a strong reaction to the book, but i thought hillary clinton was sympathetic throughout the book that i read this week. her strength and determination not to make the mistakes like she made in 2008, it is hard not to read it and feel an incredible amount of respect for her. >> but the central issue sheer that she had not changed enough. she brought in new people but layered them. in her view it was up to the people that she hired, you write, she paid to find the right message and she was deeply at odds with the way others built their message argue their gut feelings. >> i'm jonathan, you just said
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ira. all three of us know him, so g through the book and the details of all of these moments that, i mean it is basically what you just said right there, it's reporting. it is she had difficulty with messaging in this campaign and in 2008. she never was able to articulate what her vision for the country was in a way that super seceded
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peoples belief in her interest in power. >> part of being a candidate is having to go through the campaign. vice president biden made a decision not to run because of some intensely personal issues been i felt that you under played the very personal baggage he was carrying throughout that decision making. the time for him. he under went an extraordinary personal tragedy and his life was marked by them. i want to say that hillary clinton, you know, is one of those people and you know this, that people say "if voters could only see what she is like in small meetings. if voters could only see what she is like in private meetings,
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small groups of people, and it is most frustrating in a campaign when you a candidate that is so extraordinarily impressive in small groups, and you can't figure out a way to translate that quality to larger grouches and audiences. so i think again, i'm a democrat, i share that frustration, that we check tily did not manage to elect this candidate. i think jonathan has done a huge amount of reporting but the people in the campaign do know the story best, and they always do. >> anita, thank you, jonathan allen, thank you, and the book of course is shattered. speaking out, we hear from the lawyer for gretchen carlson who took a very tough stand against her former employer, fox news. know was that i had dry, itchy eyes.
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in her lawsuit against roger ailes. thank you for being with us. that was really the end, we didn't know it at the time, but what happened a of that? the accusation is asong somong the other women who have spoken out, after roger ailes was forced out, they didn't clean up the hostile work environment. >> that is the case. i represent a person from fox who when she refused to trash gretchen carlson, was taken off the air. also, she was never interviewed in the interview process. she had a similar story that she was promised a full-time job on "the five," now going to be a primetime show. and when she didn't have sex with roger ailes, she didn't get the job. so that indicates to me that nothing has changed.
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in fact, this week julie raginski wasn't on the air at all. a woman who is suing them for retaliation and sexual harassment is taken off the air. >> tell me your reaction to the payout to bill o'reilly? it's reported to be as much as $25 million. >> it is kind of extraordinary that the harassers like bill o'reilly leaves with $25 million. on the other hand, he is off the air. we have to look at this as the beginning, i think, of the change. as more and more women feel empowered to come out and speak up, that's really the change. and gretchen started that by being extremely brave, because she was on her own. now i think women are learning that banding together, we may be able to change. he is off the air. the amount of money is ridiculous, but he is off the air.
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if he stayed another ten years, he would have made $250 million. so there's good and the bad. >> are there any legal implications for the parent company in terms of the way they've informed or not informed their shareholders about these payouts? >> if the shareholders were not informed, there are some legal implications about hiding sexual harassment settlements. not just because of the amount of the settlements but because of the potential liability, even into the future against the company. and because they have arbitration agreements, most of the employees at fox have arbitration agreements, they're able to keep it secret. these agreements keep women silent, they shut us up and we think we're alone and we don't know there are other victims and the harasser gets to stay in the workplace. so we don't know what was going
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high level delegation. our best wishes to the entire bush family. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." craig melvin is up next. >> best wishes indeed. have a good weekend. and good friday afternoon to you. craig melvin here to you at msnbc headquarters in new york. a lot happening. government shutdown? that possibility looking more likely as the white house doubles down on demands to fund president trump's border wall. and speaking of that border wall, immigration crackdown. the attorney general and homeland security secretary both of them on the border today, vowing to tighten immigration policies and increase detentions. plus, hillary hits trump. the former democratic nominee swinging at the president and his administration during a speech last night. what she's saying about the trump administration's threat to lbgtq americans. we'll get to that in a moment. we start with the countdown to shut
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