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hello again. i'm yasmin vossoughian in new york. happening in cities across the country and around the world, tens of thousands of people are coming together marching for science. the event brings scientists and advocates together wanting lawmakers to use evidence-based data when enacting policies. here in the united states, marchers are protesting president trump's proposed budget cuts to federal agencies that fund scientific research. nbc's morgan radford is in new york city. first to ali vataly in washington, d.c. >> hi there. how are you today? so we're looking at the capital which is where the protest for -- where the march ended up as we were heading from the capitol. and most people have dispersed now so we're definitely seeing a wrap-up at the end of the day. not without a trump tweet. he tweeted in celebration of earth day saying we celebrate our beautiful forests, lakes and land. we stand committed to preserving the natural beauty of our nation. a lot of the people who showed

up here today disagree with how he thinks he's going to do that. a lot of people saying the cuts, two things like the national institute of health, really hurt the ability to research and the cuts he's proposing to the center of disease control. another thing they were out here saying they were not much in agreement with is his stance on climate change. trump tweeted it was a hoax, in his opinion. he has someone at the epa, scott pruitt, who has cast some doubt on the fact that man-made climate change may exist. this is part of the trump administration that people are out here protesting. it was a march that was also a celebration. apolitical in the fact it was celebrating science and that was really the double head of what we saw here in washington today. one of hundreds of protests that were happening internationally today. >> how is the crowd different there today than what you saw last weekend when they were protesting, trying to get

president trump to release his taxes? >> so you and i definitely did speak last week for the tax march. and i think there is the similar idea here of resist. you saw it begin with the women's march in january after the inauguration. you see it carry through to a lot of the protests we've seen of trump over the course of these past 100 days or so. but really, today felt a little more celebratory than last week at the tax march. while the mood has generally been positive and a lot of these protests i've been covering, there was more of a sense they were there to celebrate science and the accomplishments of research as well as the need for that continued science and research. last week was definitely an against trump a the fact he hadn't beetransparent in releasing his t returns among others. this had that simmering in the background but the foreground was science and research. >> i just saw bill nye the science guy. >> he was on msnbc with joy reid earlier.

he is just a celebrity scientist around these parts. people were clamoring for selfies. the crowd went wild when he spoke here. >> he definitely stands out with that bow tie. want to turn to morgan radford in new york city where there was also a sizable turnout today. what are you seeing? >> there were thousands of people here today. as you know it's earth day. the march for science rally has officially ended here. it culminated in the heart of times square. people were really marching for three primary reasons. one, they were talking about climate change and the environment. two, they were talking about health and, three, they were talking about technology. they made the point if we had it publicly invested in our science system, we wouldn't have discovered the internet. for the most part, this was not a partisan issue. this was about the way that we apply rationale to our understanding of the universe. but for other people, they say this was a partisan issue. they felt under president trump's current administration, the sciences were under threat and under attack.

namely, they cited the slash in the proposed budget that president trump put forward which cut things like funding for nasa. we saw things the department of energy, the cdc, and that's what they felt was really a problem. they also cited immigration, saying if they came to full -- >> i think we may have just lost morgan radford. that's what you get with live television. over in washington, d.c., where ali vitali was just was, president trump made a surprise visit to the walter reed medical center. kelly o'donnell is at the white house for us with the latest. >> good afternoon. counting down to the first 100 days in office is sort of a mixed bag here at the trump white house. they know that's a marker by which they are going to be judged. what have they accomplished? what have they done? at the same time, they want to say it's not that important or predictive about what the trump

presidency can ultimately be. most of what we've seen thus far have been executive orders and nothing legislatively in a big picture sense. so this week, they are working hard to try to move the ball on a few things. first of all, government funding to keep the government open. that is a deadline that they must reach by the end of the week. and that's something that congress is working on to try to keep funding but also to provide money for the border wall the president believes is an important priority as well as increasing defense spending. also looking at repeal of the obamacare health care law. that will be much tougher to do. there's progress, they say being made with changes to the bill and more effort, more conversation with house republicans. a big question mark about how soon and how successfully that can move forward. and then the president threw in a surprise on friday saying he wants to unveil tax reform and tax cuts middle of the week. that was not something that was on the plan for senior advisers. but it is part of his campaign plan that he wants to try to deliver on.

so expect something to be unveiled for tax cuts and his tax proposal. it will be a big week. and he will cap it with a visit to pennsylvania. harrisburg, where he will hold a campaignallyext saturday night to mark the 100 days in office. so aone time, he is trying to say it's not that important. the timing doesn't matter that much. and at the same time, he knows there will be a lot of attention and he's going to embrace that marker at the start of his presidency. yasmin? >> not that important but acting like it. kelly o'donnell, thank you. joining me, ron nixon, washington correspondent for "the new york times" and columnist for the boston herald, adriana cohen. thank you for joining me. appreciate it. ron, a government shutdown looming. how is it going to look if the government shuts down in his first 100 days? >> i think it will reflect somewhat badly on the trump administration because republicans control all three branches of government. so you can't then go and say,

well, just democrats are to blame here. and i think that they are aware of that which is why you see this activity, this sort of do something before the deadline. >> for the president doing some wheeling and dealing here as well, he is offering democrats funding for obamacare subsidies in exchange for border wall funding. chuck schumer is like, that is a nonstarter. so is the president here really willing to shut down the government over health care? >> you know, he very well may take that tact given the fac that i agree it's not good optics for republicans, but last me around in 2013 when senator ted cruz, he orchestrated shutting the government down, people thought this would be disastrous. as you remember a year later, they still won the house and controlled congress, both chambers. it proved to nobt dangerous.

so they may be willing to take that risk and play some hard ball with negotiations. but there are certain things we know that democrats will not make concessions on. they politically cannot support the border wall. their base will not tolerate that. also defunding of planned parenthood. but hopefully they will be willing to negotiate with republicans on areas where they can find consensus such as discretionary spending on other domestic policies or increasing defense spending is something i think both parties can agree on given all the grave threats we face around the world. >> you think the health care bill can be pushed through in the next seven days? could there be that much swing of votes from the last time? >> i have to say, i don't feel that confident about it. given the fact that, first of all, we haven't seen the text yet. we have to read what's in it. but as you know, president trump

has said its plan has gotten much better. it's going to give more power to the states to carve out exemptions from essential benefits and so forth. the republican party is so divided between the freedom caucus members and the moderate tuesday group so it remains to be seen whether or not they'll be able to form consensus yet again. >> the biggest foreign policy here for the president right now, obviously, north korea. tuesday being another big anniversary. they could launch another missile test. what are the president's options here if, in fact, that happens? >> you know, it's hard to say because the foreign policy has been so unpredictable. what their options are. general mattis, secretary tillerson, have all laid out various proposals, but in some cases, they seem to be polar opposites of each other. >> not to interrupt but put this in a scheme of 100 days.

a president who has a 100-day mark looming. a foreign policy crisis over his head. north korea possibly launches another missile test. that's his test right there. what does he do? >> well, again, you know, i don't think anyone knows what he will do because the foreign policy has been so unpredictable here. and what are his options? i don't think that a military option is something that they want to pursue. it's just really hard to see what they could actually do and trying to come up with something to claim as a victory in their first 100 days other than the rhetoric that we see going back and forth. >> i wonder if that's going to be an influencer if north korea does launch another missile test. he says i'm going to make a decision to do this or that because i want to make these accomplishments in these first 100 days. adriana, i want to turn to taxes. the president announcing he wants put a tax plan out

there on wednesday. his staff surprised by this. his budget adviser saying a plan wouldn't be ready until may. if that's the case, it's not looking good for president trump right now and his tax plan. >> you're right. there was a pivot there because originally it was going to be well into the summer before we saw comprehensive tax reform proposal being laid out. this is a good move for president trump if he can pass it because most americans believe they are being taxed too much. a recent poll said 55% of americans believe they're being taxed too much. he did promise on the campaign trail to cut taxes and so i think we'll see massive tax cuts. that's what he's proposing. cutting the corporate tax rates from 35% to at least 20%, if not 15%. he's going to reduce the seven tax brackets down to three. i also hope he cuts the individual tax bracket. otherwise it's really bad optics to say you're taking care of corporations but not middle class families. i'd like to see him push through a reduction in taxes for

individuals and then also he should support and cut taxes for small businesses because they are the backbone of our country and our economy. and they help create jobs. so i hope that he's able to find consensus here. he definitely needs a win after the blundered roll-out of the first health care bill. >> if i was in his position and about to put a tax bill out there i'd wanto make insure that anying i putut there would benefit the people who vote forward me and put me in office in the first place. >> ron, we're covering a lot of topics here. attorney general jeff sessions and some local police chiefs got into a fight friday over their threat to cut funding to sanctuary cities. in a press release, sessions said the nypd was soft on crime. that sparked the police commissioner to hold a press conference. let's take a listen to that. >> when i read that statement by doj this afternoon, my blood began to boil. murder is down 82%.

shootings down 81%. overall crime is down 76%. in 2017, murders were down 11 murders. shootings are down. 41. and overall crime is down 5.4%. to say we're soft on crime is absolutely ludicrous. >> republican presidential nominee president trump always put blue first when he was on that campaign trail. now you have attorney general jeff sessions saying the nypd is soft on crime, ron. is this a smart thing to do? >> i think it's a curious tact to take because in addition to the president, attorney general sessions has also been a great poponet of respecting the men and women in law enforcement. and to go after new york city in particular, along with a number of other cities, for not participating with i.c.e. and detaining immigrants who have beenjailed, it is a curious tactic. and you can see them possibly

losing that particular constituency because those people are -- have voted for the president over hillary clinton. and it's just -- it's just curious. i was astonished when i saw the letter go out to those cities. particularly new york city. and as the commissioner mentioned, crime has dropped tremendously there. so i'm not sure that's something that you want to do because at some point, you are going to need their assistance. >> i'm a new yorker, and from what i understand, you do not go after the nypd. thank you both for joining me. up next as all eyes are on north korea, former ambassador bill richardson joining me next. and is the firing of bill o'reilly a major sign of change in corporate america when it

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they've already taken steps which we greatly welcome. intervening in coal shipments and intervening in commercial travel. but we believe china can do more. >> that's vice president mike pence in australia today. woorns ga once again calling on china to is intervene in the north korean situation. also to ramp up diplomatic pressure. joining me now, bill richardson, former ambassador to the united nations and former governor of new mexico. thank you for joining me. very much appreciate it. you actually travelled to north korea to secure the release of two journalists there a few years ago. tell me the mind-set we're dealing with right now. >> it's a mind-set right now of total unpredictability.

new leader kim jong-un, whom i have not met, who is afraid of his own shadow. he is worried about his own internal controls. he wants to show the world he's a major player. he's totally committed to developing nuclear weapons and more missiles. but what distinguishes him most in contrast to his father and grandfather is we don't know where he's coming from. we don't know what he wants. he doesn't talk to anybody. he doesn't talk to china. doesn't try to engage diplomatically. he's out there alarming and scaring the world. so we don't know much. hardly anything about him. >> ambassador if he's not talking to china, why are we relying on them so astutely, so much? >> well, china has enormous leverage over north kore they provide od, economic assistance, energy assistance. they're right on the border. major trading partners. coal, oil.

they have leverage over north korea. in the past, china is not wanting to help us with north korea. to get them to cool down. but it looks like right now china is starting to put some pressure on north korea. they've been offered incentives by the trump administration. they'll not be labeled a currency manipulator. some trade benefits. and north korea in the past has not listened to china but maybe they have been squeezed enough so that they didn't do a nuclear test last week. they did a missile test that -- flat, but still not good. but china is the major player along with us in the region. they are the ones with the leverage. we need to give them a little time to put some real pressure on north korea. >> we just heard vice president mike pence say if china is not willing to play ball we have allies that are. but from what you're saying and from what i've heard, we can't even do a deal with north korea.

there's nothing there if we don't have china on board. >> well, that's true. they are the major players. south korea is having an election soon. south koreans are very scared. 25 million people in seoul. they're worried about a miscalculation being affected. japan. we've got,000 american troops there. they are worried about a missile hitting them, o. i think what we need to do, and i expect north korea to do another missile test very soon. they always do this on anniversaries. and this is not something that makes them unpredictable. they always do this. i think we have to tighten sanctions, banking sanctions through chinese banks. continue the cyberefforts to disrupt their nuclear program. what doesn't make sense now is a preemptive military strike. it would be too costly. >> let's talk quickly, ambassador, about diplomacy. it has worked in the past. it worked during the clinton

era. that being said in the same breath. the state department has so many unfilled slots, so many people at diplomatic stations that have not been appointed to those areas yet. how does that sort of weaken our diplomatic efforts in north korea, and do you think we can still get things done there? >> well, the answer is yes. having no assistant secretary confirmed for east asia, i don't know if we have an ambassador in south korea from the trump administration. many assistant secretaries at state not confirmed. not even appointed. no deputy secretary. this is a problem. i think the state department takes the lead on negotiations. and discussions and diplomacy with north korea. and when you have half the team or most of the team not even propose, it's a problem. now that doesn't mean that we're helpless. i think we have to have a long-term strategy.

we can't just be making threats and talking about preemptive military strikes. i think so far, going ahead with china taking the lead right now makes sense. but having an overall strategy that eventually brings diplomacy, that eventually you're making a deal. you're making a deal like in the clinton administration. you stop your nuclear ballistic program, kucurtail it. in return, maybe you get food, energy assistance. maybe we lift some sanctions. we take the war status off of north korea. we're technically still at war. but the problem is we don't know what this young man wants. he just talks to people like dennis rodman, the basketball player. i don't think any other american has ever talked to him. so it's a problem. >> our president did pen a book entitled "the art of the deal." let's see if he can make one with north korea in mind. ambassador bill richardson, thank you. next -- senator bernie

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let them vent. and to make a down payment on building trust which he said many times will take a lot of time and a lot of effort working down the road. clearly democrats are very united behind the effort to fight trump but still divisions in the party to take more than a week long to heal. >> i know you're at a unification rally. i imagine a lot people supporting a unification of the party in general. keep that in mind when answering this next question, but are you seeing a unification happening? it takes more than just a week and a rally and people touring the country and saying let's unify, but what are you hearing? are they ready? do they want to get on board? do they want fresh blood there? >> there's a diversity of opinions. you'll have a hard core set of bernie sanders supporters who one gentleman felt betray by the party during the presential primary and was not interested in hearing what tom perez had to say.

he came out to hear bernie sanders. you have people from bernie sanders' side, hillary clinton's side who want to unify the party and come together. i spoke to a woman who was a republican who came into the party because of bernie sanders. she became a democrat and has gotten involved locally in democrats and she thinks that bernie sanders' supporters need to come into the fold and not just wait for the party to come to them but to move to the party. it's a big tent. they lost. there's hard feelings. lots of blame and finger pointing to go around. it will be a long process but nothing unites them quite like donald trump. >> that is for sure. alex seitz-wald, very good point made. a major political milestone in france is being overshadowed and possibly changed by the latest act of terror in paris. watch this. [ gunfire ] >> just terrifying video showing the chaos of thursday's killing of a police officer along

champs elysees. france heads to the polls tomorrow to choose a new president. candidate marine le pen drawing international attention for her far right politics and tough talk on muslims and immigrants. she backs a so-called frexit. le pen ready to abandon the euro and is weary of nato. bushe looks at vladimir putin more favorably. donald trump thinks the paris attack will have a big effect though election. he calls le pen the strongest candidate. her main rival is emmanuel macron. >> hello, mr. president. how are you? >> the main message i have is to wish you all the best in the coming days. and make sure that, as you said, you work hard all the way through because you never know. it might be that last day of campaigning that -- >> yeah. i do agree. >> -- makes all the difference. >> we haven't heard a lot from

former president obama, but he certainly has. christopher dickey, world news are editor for the daily beast. thanks for joining me. in the run-up to the elections here in the united states, the orlando pulse nightclub shooting happened. and then candidate trump seized on the pulse glooit club shooting then. is the same thing happening now in paris after this most recent terror attack? >> i think you can go back further than that. i think president trump as a candidate seized on the attacks here in november of 2015. and used that in san bernardino to start to build his credentials as someone theoretically who would be tough on terrorism. here in france, there's been a lot of terrorism over the years. we had the terrible attack in nice just last july and before that, november 13th, and before that charlie hebdo.

fortunately, the attack that took place on the champs elysees just behind me on thursday was a much smaller attack. and while it disturbed people and people are very nervous here, that something else, something bigger will happen, it likes like any of the bigger attacksave been thwarted. how does all that play out? marine le pen has definitely tried to exploit it. definitely taken advantage of what happened on thursday and said this is why we need to close our borders, get out of europe. take anybody who is suspected of being a jihadist and either deport them, throw them in jail or take away their french citizenship. all kinds of measures that are hard-line measures that might appeal to people who are really terrified of the terrorists. but it isn't clear that people are terrified of the terrorists at this point. more likely we're going to have problems with a lot of absentia because people are terrified of the elections themselves. they just don't know who to vote

for. there are 11 candidates. and the top four are very, very different and all of them in some way unsatisfactory to a lot of french voters. so this has really become a crap shoot, but it is not one where the terrorists have set the agenda. >> looking at the results of the elections across the world, theresa may becoming british prime minister last summer with the brexit as well. donald trump winning the elections here, becoming president here. now a possible le pen victory in france if that were to happen. a far right candidate. are we seeing this global trend? >> well, i think that, in fact, this will be the deciding moment in whether this is a global trend or not. france is a big country. it's a rich country. it's an influential country. and it has a longstanding democratic tradition as part of the west. if marine le pen becomes

president, or if jean-lu jean-luc melenchon becomes president, we'll see one far more oriented toward the east. they are very much in bedith vladimir putin. melenchon, thean on the left, talks about renegotiating th borders of europe. putin, his greatest wish is to see the european union weakened and nato weakened and both of those things are very high on the agenda of marine le pen. so this is a deciding moment for the west as we know it. for all the alliances n structures build over 70 years. and i would say people are very nervous about that. here, in europe and i think sensible people in the united states are worried about that, too. >> incredible stuff to watch. all eyes are certainly going to be on the exit polls. christopher dickey for us, thank you. it is one of his biggest initiatives, but critics argue that president trump's buy

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it's america first. you better believe it. >> trump's new policy will make it harder to hire foreign workers. it also for reforms of the hb1 visa. others will not be affected. trump has used the h2b visa program to hire foreign nationals to staff his mar-a-lago resort. there are many loopholes big corporations can exploit at the expense of american workers. john, thanks for joining me. out of the box right here, is this more about show in the first 100 days, get this executive order signed so he can say he did it? >> 100% yes. it is definitely more about show. and the way you know that is by actually looking at the orders themselves and the statements that are made. there's always wiggle room in it. and much of what he's talking about is studies. you're going to study how best to do this or study how big a problem this is rather than

going to core policy. the one thing i keep emphasizing is these are not new issues. i've been covering some of these issues for better part of a quarter century. we kno what the complaints are and challenges are and we also know what a president who wanted to take bold steps could do. this president isn't doing that. he's holding rallies. he's having big events and talking a lot, but when you get to the core of the matters, he still has not taken bold steps he promised on the campaign trail. >> could american jobs be safer under this new executive order? >> they could be, but i like your use of that term. could rather than will. or anything definite. what this order does is it begins many processes of examining how you might make jobs safer and looking at where problems exist and where you might intervene.

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here in australia. president trump's tax plan would slash the corporate rate and reform the tax code to make it simpler, flatter and fairer. >> that's vice president mike pence there taking a moment to plug tax reform while making a tour through asia. tax reform, one of the highest priorities of the trump administration, although it's achieved very little on that issue as it approaches its first 100 days. adding even more pressure on the white house is a looming deadline for a government shutdown. that comes on april 29th. joining us is adolfo franco, former john mccain adviser. and chris, a former chief of staff for senator joe manchin of west virginia. appreciate it. let's take a listen to former white house chief of staff leon panetta, a democrat. he's evaluating president trump's first 100 days. >> i think generally with regards to at least foreign affairs up to this point, he probably gets a "b." with regard to doaffairs,

the ibility to get things done in the congress,xecutive orders that have run into barriers with the courts, he probably is getting a "d." at this point i'd say probably a "c" is what this administration is entitled to. >> i don't think the president is going to like that grade. >> i don't like it either. i think it's an "a" and an "a." we're talking about the domestic agenda. the president has signed executive orders already. he's just signed one to work on simplification of the -- actually the forms that we all have to fill out and the amount of money we have to spend every year at this time of the year to comply with our tax code requirements. the president has signed executive orders to reduce the size of the federal government. the president has released hostages from egypt that were held for three years during the obama administration. the president is now going to embark upon a simplification of

the tax rates and lower taxes for every single american. so i think it's when you get a "d" and a "b" from leon pa net athat's a code word for an "a" or an "a." when you look at the totality, what's happened increasingly by the media and others is a concentration on every administration's challenges and not on the many accomplishments that president trump has done just in literally 90 days. >> adolfo, i'm not surprised you bring up the big "m" word, but i'll leave it there. let's talk first about what adfo addressed when he sd the execute of orders using that as a reason to give him an "a." those are executive orders. it's not legislation. >> that's a pretty low bar. by that bar, i would want him as my professor. i'd get an a-plus every class. i wouldn't have to do any work. here's the fundamental problem that trump is facing. this preceded him winning the

election. he makes big, bold claims. he uses rhetoric to convince everyone that he's accomplishing something and when the proof comes to the pudding, nothing happens. so we're going to repeal obamacare obamacare, but oh wait, we're really not. we're going to make china a currency manipulator, oh, wait, we're not. there's nothing to see here on the russian scandal except there is. i mean, the problem i think with the trump administration is both internally and externally dysfunctional and it's a reflection of the man at the top. if you do not have a stable, consistent leadership style, especially as president, it bleeds down to your staff. and it bleeds through the administration. and so i think that what is going to be the unfortunate part of his administration is the american people have got to get used to this schizophrenic style that is going to create a lot of anxiety and stress every single day. >> adolfo, not much time, go

ahead. >> first of all, curious as president obama governed with just executive orders and everybody thought it was just a great thing the way he was governing. secondly is i think this president is n dysfunctional and certainly this white house is not dysfunctional. >>y every measure it is. >> what we're not doing in this administration is setting out decemb descript as what president obama did and later such as in syria not doing the things the president said that he would do by crossing a red line. what this president -- what this president -- >> don't talk over each other, gentlemen. go ahead. >> yeah, but what this president has done, which isn't getting much media attention is release somebody from egypt. he's attacked syria successfully. and i think sent a very strong message. i think he's also very clear on policies regarding north korea and using china to leverage and apply pressure. >> all right, adolfo, i'm sorry,

i have to interrupt. chris, you got ten seconds because i have to give two for two. ten seconds. >> boy, ten seconds, what can i say? >> there you go. your time's up. >> yeah, basically if that's the measure that basically you can say anything and that is success, yes. president trump is the greatest president that's ever existed already. >> okay. keep people on their toes. >> adolfo, chris, thank you for joining me. we'll be right back everybody. gloria alred up next. you're not taking these. hey, hey, hey! you're not taking those. whoa, whoa! you're not taking that. come with me. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. you're not taking that. mom, i'm taking the subaru. don't be late. even when we're not there to keep them safe, our subaru outback will be. (vo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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bill o'reilly announcing he would not be returning to the network, departure coming amid growing outrage of $13 million in payouts he and fox made to settle sexual harassment claims. in a statement bill o'reilly denied all the claims saying, quote, it is tremendously disheartening that we part ways due to completely unfounded claims. more on this i'm joined by civil rights attorney gloria allred. thank you for joining me. >> thanks for inviting me. >> do you think bill o'reilly losing his gig at fox news about morality or money? >>well, it appears to be a severance agreement in which he's getting substantial payout. and, you know, any corporate employer has to do calculus when allegations of sexual harassment are made. what effect does it have on the brand? what effect does it have on the network? what effect does it have on the victim, the alleged -- the one

who's alleging sexual harassment? what affect does it have on the supervisor, the employer? all these things have to be taken into account. in the end the advertisers spoke and they fled for the door. there was a stampede. and that is why, i think, he is no longer going to be with fox news network. >> when this came down the pipeline, gloria, did you think it was actually going to happen? did you actually predict bill o'reilly losing his job there, considering his popularity, ratings, loyal viewership? >> he was there for a long time. there were reports of allegations of sexual harassment in the news for many years, but finally there was a tipping point. and i give a lot of credit not only to the advertisers, not only to the women who stood outside fox news network and protested, not only to the women who spoke out so bravely, including my daughte but to

every one whoid posts, who wrote to fox news network, it was a movement. and finally there was that breaking point. and now he's no longer with them. and i hope that it sends a message to employers across the country women are now empowered. they will not be silenced anymore. they know they have a right not to be sexually harassed in the workplace and they're going to assert their rights, they're going to have their voice, they're going to speak out and this is going to be a whether or not he will new world for employers. so they better get ready and make sure that women are safe and protected in the workplace because now women have broken out of their fear. and they are fighting back. >> well, let's quickly talk about that because how do you change the culture at places like fox news and other places? quite frankly it's not just happening at fox news. it's happening all throughout the country. you've represented a lot of these women. >> i do. >> in cases like this, how do you create a culture where women are comfortable coming forward, where they don't feel like they're going to necessarily lose their job, where they're not intimidated by their employers or bosses and on the

flip side create a culture where men aren't doing this or where people aren't doing this? >> yes, we are the leading women's rights law firm in the nation and we have been for 40 years and we do a lot of sexual harassment cases. i say, women, if you are victims, consult with an attorney first, see what your rights are, see what your responsibilities are, find out how to go about asserting a claim, know the benefits, know the risks. and after you learn them you can make an informed decision about how you want to proceed, if you want to proceed. and i think it's really important because women do have rights. they have rights not to be retaliated against if that protest sexual harassment. and i think they can assess the proof with their private attorneys in a confidential manner and then they can make a decision about what they want to do. eliminate the fear by knowing what your rights are. and once you have knowledge, knowledge will help you to make the best choice for yourself. >> well, yeah, i think that's a very important point. eliminating the fear by knowing what your rights are. that is so important, something

for so many of us to remember going forward. gloria allred, thank you so much for your work. >> thank you. >> and for joining us as well on this saturday evening. very much appreciate it. >> sure. >> that wraps it up for me this hour here at msnbc. stay tuned for updates and breaking news, joy reid is up next. have a fantastic rest of your weekend. good morning and welcome back to "a.m. joy." this week the democratic party kicked off a unity tour starring senator bernie sanders and new dnc chair tom perez. and here's how that went on day one. >> maybe it's because you love a certain senator from vermont -- you guys, i still have two minutes left, all right? come on. maybe you came though because you're curious about the new dnc chairman and the future of the democratic - [ audience booing ] >> so the come together and