executive pollties. victory on the supreme court, improvising on foreign policy, intervening in syria on a campaign where he pledged the opposite. trump's project overshadowed by the open fbi inquiry into whether his campaign coordinated with russia to swing the election. >> investigating to see whether there was any coordination between people associated with the campaign. >> explicit. >> welcome to the first hundred days of the point. i'm are ay mi melber. we are going to assess the future of government, civil society and free speech in the trump era. we begin with questions facing trump this week, what have you done. "snl" boiled down the issue in a moment that may haunt this white house. >> france is starting to believe i've been president almost 100 days and i've already done so much, it's hard it keep track of it all.

read to me again from the list of my accomplishments. >> of course, sir. nominated neil gorsuch. >> god, i love that list. what a beautiful long list. >> now, that may be why president trump has been tapping down communications. also one accomplishment, supreme court nomination, the sc is what you see there. today white house aides announcing new policy moves by trump in the week ahead. they say he will release new quoterinciples for tax cut weesday. sign a new veteran's executive der wednesday and potentially meet with the entire security council at the white house. that's a big photo op at the least and potentially platform for more multilateral action for syria. one question we're asking is does that busy schedule reflect a rush to get some homework done? some white house officials say yeah, earlier this month, six sources told "politico" the white house is hosting a tense planning session for the hundred-day mark as trump's

communications director discussed thousand package trump's tumultuous days by pitching a rebranding to get trump back on track. telling "politico," the take-away is we have 2 1/2 weeks to turn around everything. trump is playing down that 100-day mark and using it for fund-raising. we could tell you the brand-new pitch this afternoon coming out and asking supporters for a contribution by next weekend an that's the way the quote land your spot on my list of a hundred-day members. historians of "politico"s do fix ate on the hundred day marker. ever since fdr passed 76 bills at the start of his admin sfrags but this period where congress is most likely to act, it matters to real people as well. take jeannette, an undocumented immigrant mother of four. she's been in the u.s. for 20 years but has been hiding in a denver church because she fears new trump policies could separate her from her children. "time" magazine naming her to

the hundred most influential people. or kate, 33-year-old in montana. she is tracking the health debate in washington, everyday she says, because of her stage 3 cancer which she says she only learned about because of coverage she got under obamacare. she asked her cancer doctors to schedule treatments asap in case she loses coverage. take american many trump supporters are pointing to. trump has stressed a warmer relationship with the country's correspondent s correspondent shl leader. bush by contrast fou bipartisan success on education reform which showedem docrats who were willing to work with him and they later did on authorizing the war in iraq. later in the show we will have reporting on trump's bills so far. is he getting through the congress that party controls or are the executive marks working. it is clear most of the nation is not sold on trump yet.

look at the new numbers. president trump on track to be the least popular president in history at the hundred-day mark. that our new nbc poll which could explain why this congress hasn't rushed to push his agenda even as they try to stay out of the crossfire of his social media attacks. obama had honeymoon approval that gave him political capital on the hill. that is just on policy. to say nothing of that most unusual part of this presidency of these hundred days that open inquiry into the very legitimacy of a candidate who won with a murky assist from russia and potential felonies by aides. al alan lickman, who as you may recall, predicted trump would win back in september. peter emmerson, and attorney maya harris, policy adviser to hillary clinton. as well as a fellow with the conservativecato institute and multinational force in iraq.

let me start with you, alan, since you make such good predictions. let's have you look to the past. these hundred days, what's your grade and what stand out to you? >> well, you know, i've since followed up my prediction on trump's victory with a new prediction and new book, the case for impeachment. and while trump certainly hasn't established a case for impeachment yet this has been a very low graded first hundred days. everybody is wrong, though. not that nothing is happened. a lot has happened. but what has happened has divided not united the american people. and caused turmoil, not unity. look at the travel ban. not only was it tied up in courts but president trump was very nixonian in claiming absolute presidential power. attacking and denigrating the courts. look what has happened with his health care bill. it hasn't just that it didn't go through the congress, it was a

horrifically bad bill that would have knocked 24 million people out of coverage and had 17% support from the american people. and as i point out in my book, he has continued his pattern of flagrant lying and destroying the truth. most egregiously, and claiming that his presidedecessor, barac obama, committed serious felony by personally ordering wiretap of trump tower, a claim that he hasn't even backed off. >> since you brought it up, briefly you predict impeachment based on what? >> i think two things are most likely to lead to impeachment. number one, if the russian investigations, and tloo are three of them, shows collusion between the trump team and russians and trump knew about it, that would clearly be impeachable. treeso trison. so far, deny, conceive, conceal.

then when you're caught, claim it was innocuous. just like water gate was third rate. conflict of interest. he didn't divest, as i recommended in his book. he may already be in violation of the constitution. the clause which says you can't take anything of value if you are president. and thirdly, abuse of power as we have seen in his defense of his travel ban. >> ilia, how about all of that? >> most of it is nonsense, i'm afraid. the russia thing, there might be some problems there with russia penetrating our intelligence service answers what not. none of this is impeachable offenses regarding trump. it is a serious issue but doesn't have to do with the legitimacy of the election. the clause issue is a great fund-raiser for the left but a business man can be president or other public official. this is again, a red herring. there are serious policy criqs tbe made. cato is libertarian, t c

conservative. i'm an trump cheerleader. >> you look like it. >> look at abuses of power that might come, if they come, disagreements, but this talk of impeachment or what not, look, "politico" environment hasn't changed, very unique situation where he has his own base of power that not necessarily the same as republicans in congress. so the hundred days is really irrelevant. we will see where he gets after four years. >> it's not irrelevant -- >> nomination of kneneil gorsucs not nothing. >> no, it is not not nothing. the first hundred days is not when big bills are passed, it is usually earlier, not later. listen to reince priebus who says there is a story to tell. >> george bush didn't get major legislation until june. bush 41, a year and after later. reagan, carter, 658 days after

taking office. we have right now, cr negotiating one of the biggest increases in military spending in decades. so he is fulfilling his promises and doing it at breakneck speed. >> peter? >> yes. quite extraordinary. i think the thing that struck me the most today was the quote of president trump himself saying this is a different kind of presidency. this is a different kind of press secretary as well. the truth, facts, which is where i prefer to live, as you do as well, is that george herbert walker bush passed 18 bills in the first hundred days. bill clinton, 24. barack obama, 11. if you measure frum trump's presidency, it is trump zero. >> i also want to do a dive-in on the trump support. whatever the general public thinks, voters that went with trump are sticking by him. 96 % saying the wld voteor

him again. 2% saying they regret their te. that true even as the health care proposeat would hurt places where trump voters live. especially elderly and rural americans by taking away key subsidies. >> counties that voted for you, middle class and working class counties would do far less well than more affluent counties. >> these are going to be negotiated. >> trump acknowledging, it is the same with the budget. eliminating tens of millions for rural airports, heating systems, rural farm and business grants and this headline trump budget slams west virginia. that's in newspapers throughout the state. he won there by 41 point. trump's base holding firm in their support. what do you make as someone advising hillary clinton who got more votes but lost in the key areas at this resilient support?

>> i think it is not terribly surprising that his hard core base is continuing to support him. it is a hundred days in. people are not feeling effects of what he is doing and not doing. and so i think that you know what's really going to be tell the tale as time fogoes on is wt happens when people's health care actually is taken away. right now a conversation had. but because they couldn't get a bill passed, they didn't have it yet taken way. health care from 24 million people. what happens when there are no jobs brought back to coal country. i think the 2018 election will be a good indicator and begin to show whether or not trump's base is crumbling. back to what peter was saying, the hundred-day mark is all about putting point on the board. about moving the needle. about real accomplishments. there is a difference between being busy and being effective. and so if we want to -- >> diddernest hemingway say

never mistake action for motion? >> absolutely. if you want to talk about this administration running around being busy, fine. but there hasn't been a single legislative accomplishment. and they control both houses of congress. and when you look in the past -- >> isn't that wildest part? >> that's partially the whilest part. and to alan's point as well, as soon as -- you can see a shift towards some action against the president. but i would like to compliment trump on something. that is his unpredictability. even though it is predictable, it is totally unpredictable and changed the way america deals with the rest of the world. we don't know if it's going to turn out to be positive. but it has the potential. we have been locked in the same relationship since world war ii. certainly with china and japan after the korean war.

so his unpredictability has almost war-lord like style of leadership, could prove very valuable and positive in terms of changing relationships that have been locked in a dance for decades. >> alan, speak to that and put aside earlier predictive criticize and tell us as a historian, do you see any notion of trump learning on the job and he also made a point of saying he surprised himself with his discipline and he said he thought he would always watch the news about himself and now i is dialling back even that happening. >> i think he has shown signs of learning on the job. one of the chapters of my book is the way out. and how trump could learn and avoid impeachment and avoid these problems. he does seem to have put down his twitter finger for a while. he has recognized how complex the world is. how complex problems like health care are proving to be. maybe he should have known that before. but at least he is recognizing

it now. and you know, i take a totally different approach than most of your panel. i don't believe in putting points on the board. i don't believe in the score card. i believe in looking at the substance of what is being done. and i think it's far better that that health c billot rejected than it would have got accepted. and look what the trump -- >> because we are short on time, let me give ilia the chance on final word. >> i believe it is not about big splashy point on the board. and big twitter thing shiny object up here, but really we have the significant executive actions and signing of congressional review resolutions down here that deregulate whether it is financially, labor department, lot of other sorts of things that nobody's paying attention to. executive actions people are paying attention to are sanctuary cities and travel ban and what not. i think what we will see going forward is a rolling back all of president obama's or a lot of it pen and phone actions which he can do because if you live by executive action you will die by

executive action. >> wow. strong words from our constitutional scholar. thank you for being here. thank you for plugging your book. you got a lot right this election. up next, policy experts step aside and we will get to the politics. one on one debate over the first hundred days with joan walsh an charlie kirk. in the next hour, special point on the point of president trump's first hundred days. he made a lot of pledge answes promises, but has he delivered? to your rheumatologist about a medication... ...this is humira. this is humira helping to relievey pain... ...and protect my joints from further damage. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira works by targeting and helping to... ...block a specific source... ...of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain and... ...stop further joint damage in many adults.

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more americans say they are doubtful when thinking about trump's plans for the country. he does have, however, 7% edge on the issue of syria where americans approve of his air strikes there. so his donald trump squandered the honeymoon period of his first hundred days or is he just getting started? we will get to it with a debate right now with two opinioned "politico"s. joan walsh and whicharlie kirk. thank you both for joining. charlie, what grade do you give trump on these first run hundred days? >> i give him an a for doing what he said would he do. i'm personally frustrated at congress. i don't know why they took a two-week recess these last couple of weeks. i don't know what they need a break from, i would have loved to see them push bills through, very similarly to how past presidents have that luxury. president trump is doing what he said he would do. whether increased border security. whether it be vetting

immigrants. just like he said on the campaign trail, signing an executive order to help our coal miners in west virginia and pennsylvania. he has been very vocal about congress not getting his agenda passed through. we have frustrations, and i agree, where is that key piece of legislation? we're waiting for it. but confirming supreme court justice as seamlessly as he was able to do does deserve credit. but the first hundred days is not the summation of the entire presidency. it is just the beginning. i would give him an "a." >> joan? retty much an "f." charlie, for you to say he has done things he said would he do, he said would he build a wall and mexico would pay for it. we were probably both in crowds where we heard people chant that back to him. what do we do? build a wall. who will pay for it? mexico. we are going to pay for it and they are going to shut the government down to make us pay for it. that is crazy. please don't interrupt me.

in terms of goresuch, your side got a win but i give that to mitch mcconnell who blocked merrick garland and did something unprecedented in the history of senate and i wouldn't say that he has seamlessly got gorsuch approved since senate today change rules to do it. further squandering political capital as well as goodwill from the country. so we are just not feeling it together here. >> charlie, how about that? >> couple points for a response. i'll ask the question, if president trump had a bill, that would build a wall, do you think he would sign it? >> yes. that's more on congress than the actual white house to respond to your point about blowing up the rules, it is important to remember that clarence thomas was confirmed that 52-48 vote in early '90s. whole idea this is an unprecedented hundred-year benchmark of breaking senate rules they only did that because opposition filibustered it for the first time in a hundred

years. and important to know harry reid did that first in 2013. thank you very much harry reid. do you believe he is doing what he said would he do with energy, coal, you might not agree with it but he is doing what he said he would do. you can't say he is doing a flip-flop. >> really denon't. he used to troll barack obama and tell him to not bomb syria, stay out of syria, then he bombs syria. this could shut down the government too. where he is not fighting for actual health care for coal miners that he promised he would do. there is not enough time. the two of us could have this whole two hours. it is ari's show, we won't do that. and go through campaign promises. he has brokene already and some he hasn't gotten to. >> to respond to joan a the other point emerging, is well, anything you don't like is congress and anything do you like is trump. take a look at this on vacancies

he should appoint at the pentagon which is important. there is 150 he can appoint and right now according to nbc reporting, two is what he filled. so that's something where congress is waiting on him for the other 148. >> there is a balance here and i understand that. president trump has to first and foremost make sure he doesn't have people consistently trying to undermine him and his administration. i'm sure you agree from my perspective, leaks that happened in early days of administration and constant undermining of him. why is he going to speed into them, rush into appointments and pentagon when he does have the full cabinet appointed. sonny purdue isn't part of agriculture. i would like to see more action out of congress. and from white house, not filling pentagon positions, question is, wait, if there is consistent leaks and undermining, why should i rush into that and if it isn't

jeopardizing national security and president trump's new action internationally has come with great agreement from our men and women of our outstanding military. >> we are out of time for our debate. hope you both come back. thank you very much. up next, i will answer your questions on-air. show what you i did in new york this week. then we will turn to our special hundred days panel on policing criminal justice reform including the director of the new documentary at this week's tribeca film festival. >> there are fires burning. people being beaten. looting. that is a dangerous night in the city of los angeles.

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letting foreign governments enrich him through his companies which he hasn't divested from. and it julie's question, a whole separa suit by washington wine bar and restaurant, cork, alleging the boo the president gives his hotel violate rules on unfair competition. alleging that hotel and restaurants unfairly competes for customers in relevant pairing and the ability to compete with the hotel on a level playing field. many of the questions i get are about the rule of the press and whether the work we do changed in the trump era. our next question is from a viewer to panel i did this week for aol build series in new york. >> is there no such thing as bad press for donald trump? >> i think part of the premise of your question is, what is the press's role in social change and accountability. and a lot of people skip the middle step and think the press reports things and then things happen. and that's not how it works. the press reports things and then you, the public, or

mechanisms of accountability in society, which can be governmental, which can be cuer toal, capitalistic, make decisions. so there's always that next step. >> now trump may court more controversy than other leaders but it is up to the public to decide what to do about all of the information the press reports. and our last question comis, couldn't the senate committee call on yates to testify? yes, they want the former obama official acting ag under trum t trump to testify. trump officials have not tried to block it. how intel invited yates to testify at a future hearing. that all the questions in my inbox this week. you can e-mail me or tweet. use the hashtag the point and we might answer your question on next week's show. now next week on this very special hundred days edition of the point, policing in america

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the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> donald trump singled out crime and gangs in his first address as president. part of the american carnage he pledged to end but you can see it right there, violent crime as

a matter of statistics is down across the u.s. trump follows a long line for politicians in both parties who talk tough on crime and while many pledges haven't been enacted we covered that today the justice department is one of the busier agencies. he also went to court asking judges to freeze police reforms the obama administration negotiated, lost that battle and reformed packages in 19 other cities now in doubt and while the use of jail time for minor drug possession is criticized across the political spectrum, sessions wants it crato crack d marijuana for recreation says it is not go for lives. meanwhile, white house sends jared kushner to meet with top senators on improving.

meanwhile other part of the government, justice department is supposed to be completely and totally above politics. but it was sessions justice department that picked this odd fight on friday, calling new york city quote, soft on crime in and otherwise routine press release about local police department answe departme departments and sanctuary cities. the nypd didn't take it lying down. police commissioner came out swinging friday, who better to fact check t trump administration on why crime is falling. >> that statement by doj this afternoon, my blood began to boil. murders down 82%. shootings down 81% . overall crime down. murders are down. shooting is down and overall

crime is down 4%. to say we are soft on crime is ludicrous. we have retired nypd sergeant, innocence project, adams, sefbing yeasef serving years in prison and it was overturned. and a new documentary about the rodney king riots. let me start with you, your view on trump calling nypd soft on crime, where does that fit in? >> it doesn't fit in. you could have knocked me over with a feather. i was a cop when they started in the bad old days and i finished in the good old days. he can't compare the two. >> jared, what do you think the changes on trump on law and order so far? >> they are not by accident. they are on purpose.

that purpose is not -- has anything to do with crime and has everything to do with profit and making a dime. one of the first things jeff sessions did is reduce the cap on prison phone calls. how does that have flig to do with tough on crime. prison phone calls is a billion dollar industry. people in prison, they are in prison, but there are certain people who make profits off of it. it is not americans, for sure. not taxpayers. >> that goes to larger construct of sort of where does police reform and criminal justice reform fit in. particularly if you want inmates to get back out on that side. tj, you're looking that the from a historical perspective. let me play a clip from the new documentary. >> tonight we must tell our children that for african-american children and adults, freedom is not yet a

reality in the united states. >> if they cannot get a conviction with the rodney king video available, there can be no justice available in america. >> we the jury find the defendant not guilty. >> today this jury told the world that what we all saw wasn't a crime. >> what everyone saw wasn't a crime. we are living here in an era where there are more videos. a lot on both sides. but when you look at the power of video and redebate, what do you see in the first hundred days? >> yeah. it is hard it say. because essentially the question is, the proliferation of t videos, it is creating us being desense advertised to the images. and i think it would be naive to say there hasn't been some form of progress and also naive to

think that there is equal opportunity amidst different party line groups and groups that are disenfranchised within our society. for us, if there is any value i can bring to the conversation, the intense is to remind ourselves that there are peoples lives at the center of this. if the intepgs of the film is to pull out the middle man, pull out the filter and say, can we remind ourselves that communities that are most at risk are getting lost in the conversation. >> getting lost. and i want to go to folks here on remote. deray, you talk about people getting lost and communities. what does it mean to you when you hear the president as he did in the inaugural address, when there are victims of real crime

and a problem in every community and as we show overstated in terms of the debt. >> with the trump administration, it is like a confetti of crises. there is so much going on. with regard to the police, justice department is slowly stripping away protections that we've had with regard to the justice community with the police specifically so it is really an attack on data. when we think of how he talks about baltimore and chicago and villainizes black people as if black people only participate in crime and i don't need to repeat what he has done around immigration. i think it is a slow burn with this administration until he is out of office. which is probably the most insidious part of it. >> this administration is reer toal. most crime issues are stand elled by local and state law enforcement as it should be.

i'm disconcerted by the heating up of the drug war. there seems to be a building consensus on the need to reduce overcriminalization and overfederalization of crime whether you are talking about the aclu or koch brothers, senators rand lee and paul to reduce asset forfeit you're, policing for profit and things like this. . response to legalization of marijuana. smart policing in those areas. those seem to be moving in wrong directions. it is very early. even executive actions on sanctuary cities or other issues, we're not seeing what is going on yet on the ground. so a lot of it is rhetorical. i don't know why he went after the nypd and not chicago, for example. we will see what the on the ground consequences will be. >> one of the consequences is concern about who ends up in jail, right? are you tough on crime or tough

on poor people who are caught in the criminal justice system. >> i can tell you from experience we can't lock our way out of this problem. we have to educate our way out of this problem. we have to provide resources. when you go inside the communities and most of the people who reside in prison come from, these communities have correlation. their education system is poor. there are no resources. there is a liquor store on every other corner. we cannot lock our way up to a safe society. it never worked. >> when you look at that and see a lot of union leaders and police leaders cheering jeff sessions for basically backing off federal oversight, where is that still popular with so many police leaders we hear from? >> why can't we do both at the same time? we can have both and they don't have to be mutually exclusive. police departments felt under attack the last few years under the obama administration and now

they feel like getting a reprieve. baltimore and other places say they will go through no matter what the doj says. i think the public thinks this also is a plant of reduced crime, but it's not. these consent decrees are supposed to help fix police departments not build better bridges or reduce crime. i think the general public needs to understand that too. >> deray, again on policy, take a look on the screen. we will show some of the executive orders related. task force on crime reduction and public safety, combatting drug cartels to increase intel and share among law enforcement partners and use existing federal law. that's already there to prosecute crimes against police. again what jumps out there is a matter of emphasis as you know and lawyers know there are very strong state and federal protections and enforcement for any crime against police as there should be. the question of why this is the executive order and why this is the emphasis, what do you see there and what do you want to see from jeff sessions? >> yeah, so as we know, 18,000

police departments across the country. policing is mostly a local issue. what the federal government is doing, sessions is doing well, is to make sure we don't have data so we can prove disparities. so the pattern and practice has to be established for consent decree to even go into effect. i this i what we see with the idea police are unfairly attacked or unfairly criticized is this moment is we see police unions are the same they have always been. in our last meeting, police unions were still the last saying there wasn't an issue. we saw police chiefs come around and say we need to do some work. i think the police chiefs across the country like we saw with the nypd are willing to push back on the doj. i'm hopeful that we will see republicans and democrats because like the other panelist say, it was bipartisan agreement we needed to reform stuff, especially with mandatory minimums and way police interacted with community. i'm hopeful we will see that shift back in the next 50 or so days. i'm also hopeful that trump is not president for four areas.

years. >> that's a theme we have had throughout the hour. i wasn't expecting so much impeachment hinting. deray, and joe, ilya, tj, super panel. thank you so much. up next, president trump taking hard line on immigration on national security. policy initiatives have failed thus far which begs the question, is america getting safer? how can we tell? we have an experienced pan toll weigh in on that straight ahead. do you play? ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap, to friends at more banks then ever before. you got next? chase. helping you master what's now and what's next. tech: when your windshield trust safelite autoglass..

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china and the united states in particular under the threat that north korea poses to the region and i think there are areas and concern where we did work together to protect the country. >> working together. first hundred days showing a big learning curve for the trump

administration. charming to china as strategic check on north korea. that's a different tone that candidate trump took. another shift, trump calling for security council meeting at the white house that suggests there's some purpose or role for the u.n. to play. candidate trump said the organization wasn't solving problems. >> the u.s. has such tremendous potential, not living up to its potential. it is not living up. when do you see the united nations solving problems? theyon't. they cause problems. so if it lives up to the potential, it's a great thing. if it doesn't, it is a waste of time an money. >> trump certainly not the first president to change gears in office but first hundred days showing he has one of the least experienced teams since the first president. george washington had to hire a lot of rookies, well because the country was brand-new. as new york times reported, trump hired advisers who like

him were knee why neophytes to government. to prior government experience nor do his secretaries of state, commerce, treasury housing or education. that's made for on-the-job training including confusion about how training including confusion about how to enact some of his more outlandish security ideas. >> the wall is going to be a great wall, and it's going to be a wall negotiated by me. the price is going to come down just like it has on everything else i have negotiated for the government. and we're going to have a wall that works. we're not going to have a wall like they have now, which is either nonexistent or a joke. >> whether the price is coming down or not, trump officials initially said, of course, you probably heard, that mexico could be charged through tariffs and then they backed down and now the president is asking americans, you, to pay for the wall, starting with $2 billion in the budget he unveiled in his first hundred days. that's a big change. because whether people like

something can depend a lot on whether it's free. bernie sanders, for example, ran on free college for everyone, but he said it would cost the government $47 billion a year. imagine if his plan has to have canada pay for the classes. might have been more popular. it's time to see if trump's security policies on a test drive are working or not. joining us now, msnbc political analyst joan walsh who brights for the immigration. and pormassistant to president obama, john walsh and matt colquin defending clients on this issues. joan, your views on whether it's working, the security piece. >> it's tough to understand, ari. he went back and forth on syria, he trashed president obama for threatening to or thinking about bombing. then he bombed. on immigration. if the wall is central to our security that's a terrible thing

because it will never be built. i am sure of that. and then the immigration enforcement has been kind of haphazard. it's almost as though it, you know, people have been chosen for maximum horror -- shock and horror value, there have been so many parents taken away from their children. i don't know that -- i don't think it's making us any safer. i am not somebody who is at the border. but it seems like it's maximizing the reaction of people who love trump love that, and the reaction of those of us who don't are horrified. none of it seems to be part of a bigger strategy. >> john, how do you look at that,articularly given the president yo have advised and the sor of the role of facts or data, we've heard countless stories in the security arena from wiretapping to the dhs standards for vetting where the policy came first and then they asked the agencies for to basically find facts to back it

up. >> your guess is right that we don't have a strategy. we don't even have a functioning government at this point. we have secretaries of defense, state and homeland security but none of the departments have their number two, three, four or five officials appointed let alone confirmed. all the cabinet secretaries are home alone. you see it having a dramatic impact on how the united states is both seen abroad, how our allies see us and how our adversaries see us. on north korea alone we have four different policies. are we prepared to negotiate with north korea? rex tillerson one day says yes and the next day says, no, they have to denuclearize before we agree to negotiate. i have watched north korea for 20 years. i don't know what our policy is. on syria, we made a big show, launched 59 cruise missiles. it hasn't affected the carnage on the ground. are we signalling that assad can stay, can he go. if he has to go, when? >> when you say signaling, what does that mean? trump allies have said it was automatically a good thing

because it showed a strength or willingness to bomb. >> i think it is a good thing that we responded to the use of chemical weapons by using force. it does send a potential signal to assad that he shouldn't use chemical weapons again. what if he does? are we committed to do the same thing? we're going to have to up our game? we have troops on the ground in syria and iraq where they are v vulnerable. what are woo tryie trying to ac other than the president reacting to horrible pictures he see. >> on the results, which is the focus tonight, not the style and drama. on the result, on one hand you have a lot of public movements from the administration to get tougher on immigration. we just showed some of the talk on the wall. on the other hand, the preliminary data on deportations does not suggest a massive change in the numbers or the deportation force. what do you see and what are you advising your clients, the real people who are affected?

>> exactly. what i have seen from the first hundred days is a lot of sizzle and not a lot of steak. president trump has indicated that he intended to use his enforcement resources to -- with laser-like precision go after criminal aliens. there is a very small percentage of individuals that have been taken into custody since he has taken office who are criminal aliens and that's very similar to what we saw under president obama. president obama had a felons, not families, narrative that he tried to advance. when you looked at the data, it was really a lot of families who were being deported, up to 3 million of them with another half million waiting to be deported when he left office. >> that's the amazing part. you take politics and partisan blinkers out of this and you have escalation on deportation in general, congress not doing anything and at this point what looks like rhetoric. joan, the other big feature, the

travel ban. whether you think it was a good idea poorly executed or a bad idea poorly executed, there is not any way to credibly say it wasn't poorly executed. here was donald trump on it. >> we have entire regions of the world destabilized by terrorism and isis. for this reason i issued an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration from places where it cannot safely occur. >> joan, if it had focused just on those places, for example, a targeted look at saudi arabia, who knows what people would have thought. it didn't do that at all. >> no. it didn't actually target places where we know people have come and done us harm. it targeted a lot of places where people had not and we know that most of the people who want to do us harm who are in this country have been here for a generation. we haven't assimilated them, whatever the story is. speaking as a new yorker, ari,

we have to feel less safe when jeff sessions is feuding with our police chief and our police chief is the one who is speaking truth to that kind of power. i mean, the way that they've handled the sanctuary city situation also makes us less safe. it's bad all around. >> joan walsh. john and matthew, thank you very much for digging in on the policy. a lot more coming up on our special edition of "the point." including the special report on trump's first hundred days. the pledges, promises and scandals and a look at the rocky relationship between trump and the press. a special panel including the return of gay talese. can't argue with that. stay with us.

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i'm ari melber. welcome back to the hundred day special on "the point." now to the new report i mentioned last hour. what has president trump achieved in the first hundred days. we combed through every promise