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. this sunday president trump and the first 100 days. he is rejecting the deadline calling it ridiculous and at the same time rushing to meet it. >> no administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days. >> no vick toik like tory like obama care. >> but he got his man on the supreme court. >> the most important thing is appointing people to the united states supreme course. >> plus, our brand new nbc news
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wall street journal poll. what the voters think of president trump. the numbers are record setting. also, who should be happy about that georgia special election? democrats who came close? >> we have defied the odds. >> or the republicans that forced a runoff. and the o'reilly factor. what bill o'reilly did for the conservative movement and what his departure could do now. >> joining me are savanna guthrie. peggy nunan, and cornell belcher. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press." >> the longest running show in
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television history, celebrating our 70th year. >> good sunday morning, after being elected mayor of new york, he walked the streets saying how am i doing. president traump has dismissed the 100 day mark and also raced to meet it. we have a new poll to tell us howmericans thinkthe president is doing. in short, not well. % of those polled approve of his performance so far. and by far the lowest we have recorded at this stage of any presidency in our 25 year history of this poll. 64% say he is off to a fair or poor star. and finally 46% say they feel
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more hopeful with president trump, 52% say they feel more doubtful. compare that to obama's 64-30 split on that question. most of mr. trump's term is still ahead of him. he has plenty of time to turn things around, but he is waiting for a big win to allow him to declare 100 day victory. >> no particular rush, we'll see what happens. >> friday he tried to minimize the 100 day benchmark calling it a ridiculous standard. that didn't stop him from announcing a big rally in pennsylvania on the 100 day mark. >> no administration has michig accomplished more in the first 90 days. >> candidate trump promised to introduce ten specific pieces of
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legislation and fight for their passage. >> we're going to have the biggest tax cut since ronald reagan. >> the repeal and replace obama care act. >> impenetrable, tall, beautiful, southern border wall. >> we will cancel every obama l illegal executive order. >> but they have failed to pass any significant piece of legislation. the obama care repeal was yanked from the house floor. his travel ban is stalled in the kours, and tax reform has been pushed from the summer to the end of the year. his one big accomplishment, neil gorsuch waslargely delivered by mitch mcconnell. confidence in mr. trp's presidential qualities has eroded even on the attributes where he performs best. he is down seven points on being
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firm and decisive, down six on changing washington. now the president is scrambling for a legislative victory on health care but signaling it it might not get done. still in an interview, he promised to roll out a massive tax cut next week. >> we'll have a big announcement on wednesday with tax reform, but capitol hill will be focused on funding the government that shuts down at midnight on friday, the 99th day in office, unless congress can pass a spending bill. a jittery republican congress is returning to washington after two weeks of facing down constituents at town halls. >> i want to make sure you have health care. >> and increasingly republicans have become comfortable criticizing their own president.
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>> i do wish he would spend more time in washington dc. that is what we have the white house for. >> and joining me now is president trump's chief of staff reince priebus. welcome back. the president did tweet this on friday, no matter how much i accomplish in the ridiculous standard of the first 100 days, it has been a lot, including sc, media will kill. and maybe that will be your response to me question here, but just before the election, he made these legislative promises. ethics reform, more funding for the military, dealing with crime and drugs, they were all supposed to be legislative action that was announced, not necessarily passed, but only one of those legislative priorities has even come close.
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why does he say it is ridiculous and them promise all of this action. >> first of all, if you look at the promises he made on immigration, border crossings down by 70%. you look at tpp, one of the first executive orders he signed, look at ethics, every employee of the west wing signed an ethics pledge. you're never going to lobby when you leave this place and never for a foreign country. look at neil gorsuch. first time a supreme court judge has been sworn in since 1881. the idea of major legislation not being passed in the first 100 days. barack obama had a vague stimulus package -- that was prebaked. george bush didn't get any my jor legislation until june.
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bush 41 a year and a half later. nixon, one year, johnson 225 days. here is the deal, the president signed over 28 bills already, health care may happen next week, it may not. we're hope physical it will. as far as border security, the military. we have them negotiating one of the biggest increases in military spending. >> one standard that really is, i would think potentially troubling, for senate confirmation, just filling the jobs, the empty positions in government, he has nominated 45. george w bush hat 95 nominations, what is taking so long for you guys to just fill the political appointments. you're way down here. >> actually not. let me clear this up. first of all, chuck schumer and
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the democrats have done something that many democrats and democratic leading pundants said is inexcusable. they're holding up nominees -- >> these are not nominated. if you had 190 nominated and -- >> let me finish. look. even on david schilken who passed 100-0 in the senate, schumer still took up three hours of debate. you can't clear someone for nomination into the senate. so when you talk about who we have for assistant as secretary of hud or the state department, they have been chosen. however when you choose one of those people, the process is you have to send that person to the
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office of government clearance. you can't get the clearance for 30 or 40 days after you choose the person. they're in que. >> so you acknowledge you're behind. >> but but because of historical unbelievable obstruction from senato senators acting -- >> i president said, you look at rex tillerson, the secretary of state has direct authority over the people he chooses to fill the positions within the department of state. if he gets picked, he gets submitted in december, he doesn't get confirmed until later in the year. a secretary of commerce that was chosen in november, not confirmed until february. they will take the time to choose who his under secretaries are. the under secretaries chosen need 30 days to go through clearance. >> i have to move on because -- >> it is easy.
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>> it doesn't make sense. >> how does it make sense. these folks are not preparing for their own staff to decide who they're coming into office. let me ask you about the government shut down, run out of money, if a bill is not passed by the end of the week. your budget director said you want to have a down payment on the border wall in that government funding bill. if you don't get it, will the president veto the funding bill? >> we already have seen progress in regard to getting money for border security in the cr. i'm confidence that we will get something complimentary to the president. >> but it may not be the wall itself? >> it will be enough in the negotiation for us to move forward with the construction or the planning or enough of us to move forward through accept for
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us to get through -- >> and speaker ryan said it's not going to gum up getting this funding bill done? >> no, we expect the priorities to be reflective in the cr. we expect a massive increase in military spending. we expect money for border security in this bill, and there ought to be. the president won overwhemingly. >> are you okay if the money is not designated for security but not the wall. >> i think as long as the president's priorities are reflected, and the rebuilding of our military, and there is enough as far as flexibility for the border wall and border security, i think we're okay with that, but we're still negotiating with appropriators. >> health care, are you okay if
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speaker ryan says we need more time to find votes? >> i would like to have a vote this week, but on monday we'll still be here working for the american people, whether or not health care repeal and replace comes on friday, saturday, or sunday, it's a marathon not a sprint. we're hopeful for this week, but it doesn't have to happen to define our success. >> has the president taken sides. is he unofficially hoping marine le pen gets in the run off? >> he will support whoever the winner is. we have a long term relationship that is historical with the french people and government. and no matter who wins that relationship will continue. >> so his tweet is not him >> no, i think he may have some opinions as far as who he thinks might win, but certainly not a preference --
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>> other than a right-center person that believes in free markets. >> it costs $200,000 to be a member of mar-a-lago. the other club is $300,000. shouldn't the american public know who they are if they have bought memberships since the president took office? >> no, this is a private business and organization. it is a private club. >> so if someone decides this is the best way to get access to you or the pakistan there is nothing the american people can do about it? >> president trump, he is the boss. they listed 20 people with access, some of them the president doesn't even talk to, he talks to a lot of people but that doesn't change his views. if you look at him talking about trade in the 1908 and the 1990s,
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she no different. people like to talk about, argue about who is talking to him, who is influencing him to make decisions, it's trump, it has always been his agenda and it will always be his agenda. he will be delivering to the american people, putting america first. >> i will leave it there. i know you a busy week ahead of you. the government will stay open? >> i believe it will. >> joining me now is nancy pelosi, thank you for being here. >> thank you from texas. >> you're coming from a state that might be impacted by a border wall, is there any scenario that you will support or that incomes will help keep the government open if there is money to build the wall?
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>> the democrats do not support the wall. i think the republicans on the border states do not support the wall. they had the votes in the house, the senate, and the white house. the burden to keep it open is on the republicans. theunmoral, expensive, and unwise. he didn't say he would pass billions of cost for the wall on the american people. >> elections have consequences, republicans are in charge as you just pointed out, but there are some democratic spending priorities that you want to push for, including making sure that while obama care is still law it is fully functioning. what is wrong with giving the president his money far border wall in exchange for a priority that is not his, keeping obama care facultyully functional.
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what is wrong with that horse trading? >> what is wrong with that scenario is the wall. he talks about how tall it is, how will pay for it, and all of the rest of that. you have to understand this part if is a border. the president, i think, talking about this wall, is expressing a sign of weakness. he is saying i can't control our borders, i have to build a wall. we would certainly like to. we have a responsibility to control our borders with b building a wall is not an answer right here. >> the majority of whether or not it is a good thing or a bad thing for the party, is the energy in the democratic party a bit overstated if john ossoff gets the same number in that
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district? >> hillary clinton was a famous person running for president of the united states in high profile election. he ran and is running an off season election. low turn out for the rest. a young man we're proud of that an someone that attracted such support. it is about him and the commitment he made to the people of that district. >> what should unify the democratic party. what should make someone a democrat or not a democrat. there has been a lot of back and forth among abortion rights activists about supporting a democrat in omaha that happens to be pro life. at some point, the democratic national committee chairman actually had to put out the t l
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following statement, he said i fundamentally disagree with either mello's personal beliefs about women's reproduck tiff health, it is a promising step that the candidate now shares the party's position on fundamental rights. each candidate that runs as a democrat should do the same. every woman should be able to make her own health choices about that. can you be a democrat and the support of the democratic party if you're pro-life? >> of course. i have served for many years in congress with members who have not shared my very positive, my family would say, aggressive position on promoting a woman's right to choose. what you asked at the first part is about what unifies democrats. people say to me all of the time, you do such a good job june if iing the house democrating and i say i don't. our values unify us. we're unified with our
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commitment to america's working families. that is job creation. budget policies, that invest in the future, good paying jobs, and that's what we like to see for the debate. for the president of the united states. show us the jobs, where is the infrastructure bill? there is many promises made, promises unbroke -- broken. and what where the infrastructure bill. the president was supposed to have a strong infrastructure bill coming. the infrastructure bill is one of the biggest secrets in washington dc, second only to the president not showing his tax returns. we need to see those so we can see how his tax policy will affect his own tax situation. we need to see them so question see what is the hold that the russians have on him politically, financially, personally. this is about job creation. job creation for the middle
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class and working families who aspire to is and that aspire to it. >> i want to show two clips of tv adds run in montana and georgia, take a look. >> nancy pelosi put america $20 trillion in debt and john ossoff is on her side. >> can you trust quist and pelosi with your money? >> are you at all concerned that you could play a outsized role that if you're more unpop familiar a specif ular in a specific district you could hurt a democrat. >> these ads show the wrups bany of their own initiatives, but since you brought it up and i'm glad you did. i think it is important for the voters in those districts to know who the candidates will be
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voting with. will they be voting with paul ryan whoments to eliminate the private care if is not a question of the president, it's a question of the policy. if you want to vote for someone like paul ryan for speaker, it is a vote to dismantle medicaid and to eliminate the guarantee of medicare. medicare is a guarantee. you take away the guarantee, you eliminate medicare as we know it, and to move on to private -- by the way, those views are shared by the president's appointees to his cabinet. >> i will leave it there. i have more questions but never enough time. coming from texas, thank you. >> coming up, russia, syria, and
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we are back here. cornell belcher is joini us. savanna guthrie, co-anchor of "the today show" and robert costa who has just been named a new moderator. first 100 days, everyone loves to talk about it when they run, hate it when it happens, how should we look at it?
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>> i think, look, for one thing, we all love politics, we focus on it every day. so we're watching literally every day he is up, down, on the side. we're seeing lots of trends. i think it's fair to say of those that support the president, they're event horizon is longer, they're taking the long view. i didn't find the poll today to be that dramatic. i kind of thought after the first 100 days he had, not so bad. the big thing was in the tape opening the show. neil gorsuch worked brilliantly, went straight through. implications for a generation. big win. failure legislatively of the health care, obama care replacement. a bit disastrous. now i think what is most threatening at the end of 100 days is the sense of confusion. is the white house talking to congress? is there a tax bill being put
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together. a sense of wow, what is going on here. >> i was shocked by those numbers. you look at these unprecedented numbers in a honeymoon period, there is time to recover, but historically no, we don't have their numbers getting better after the honey moon period. 44% polarity think that he is less educaffective than other presidents, and you have a real erosion of his brand, some of his brand and decisiveness and strength. all of those numbers are down, chuck, and if i'm the white house, i'm looking and i'm shocked. and the 25% honesty number, we have never seen that before. >> let me point to something that you eluded to here, paul cain, you will enjoy this. the model of strategic chaos, worked well in the campaign, but
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in government it doesn't work. there is a good chance that the week ahead becomes a lot of sound and theory. >> that is the issue, and bob can speak to it better than i can, but is he talking to congress? do they have a legislative path out there? it is kind of shocking, but nothing is shocking any more that on friday he says a big tax reform deal, and according to reports surprised even people in the administration. that gets me back to the 100 days of the obama administration or frankly any administration. they say don't hold us to this stupid standard. these 100 days. count it as another flip-flop, but it is ridiculous standard. too bad for him he embraced it all through the cam tan up until and including when neil gorsuch was sworn in and he said this was in 100 days.
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>> they're all grumbling. they're trying to move on taxes, health care, and trying to keep the government funded. on health care the white house is negotiating with the hardline freedom caucus. on tax reform, they're probably just looking at tax cuts. and government funding, that alone is a major issue for this coming week. >> peggy, let's say -- i heard flexible in reince. he was very careful what he said about the border wall. border security. it was clear to me he would never say the word wall. >> they don't want to add to their problems in the government shut down. it would make no sense for anybody. i don't think that will happen. can i say however that part of the context here, you mentioned it is extraordinary that mr. trump has these numbers in these
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hon honeymoon, i don't think he ever had a honeymoon. this was brace yourself. it was nutty from the beginning. and it is a most historical moment and i will just say it doesn't compare well poll wise with other previous moments, that's all i will say. >> i think that is fair, but fwhoo we're in a unique unpopular president. he has not been helping and expanding his base. his base is sticking with him, but we agree that he needs to expand that. >> okay, we will pause the conversation, we have a lot to get to. we'll get to it after the break. when we come back, the president's record on foreign president's record on foreign policy and we'll speak with when this bell rings... ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business,
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welcome back, president trump's first almost 100 days in office have been marked by a series of foreign policy reversals. to acknowledge nato's relevance.
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all of which makes him look like a president that wants to preserve the status quo rather than break them up. senator rubio, welcome back to the show, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> before i get to foreign policy, i want to talk about two foreign columbian presidents going to mar-a-lago, meeting with president trump, having a meeting about the current government. the questions are about how did they get this meeting with the president? who set it up? the "miami harold" said you were involved in setting it up, you denied. >> no, you'll have to ask the white house if there was even a white house, and the former
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presidents. one who is now is sitting senator. i met with foreign heads of state in my travel abroad. i'm not sure what the big deal was. i didn't even know they were in florida. >> is it something the u.s. government should play a role in deciding whether or not this deal is approved in columbia? >> no, that belongs to the vote in columbia. they have elections in that country and it was accountable to those people there. and do i have concerns about american funds winding up in hands of foreign officials. i have concerns about officials becoming members of congress because now they're guaranteed a certain number of seats, and they're traveling to the united states of diplomatic visas.
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our rip with lcolumbia is important and strong and i will continue to support it. >> i want to move on here. i am curious, your democratic colleague mark warner said this earlier this week of trump's foreign policy. they are recalibrating their strategies. you can't deny it, because they don't have any idea of how trump could respond. that could be great in the short term, but it is not a long-term strategy. do you find anything to disagree with on that? >> i disagree in the sense that from that statement it implies there is no long-term strategy. the national security county till -- council is going back. and i had a conversation about the western himself here.
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so we have had a lot of debates about tactics. the tactics should be driven by the strategy. i don't anticipate that in a year from now you're able to say the any thing. >> on this finish of nato, the decision to strike syria, the reversals are in some ways probably comforting to you on the specifics. how do we know he will will not reverse himself again? do you just take more comfort in the fact that he is coming to the status quo or could he flip again. >> there is one lens you may few the world through. then you get elected and you get good people and they bring you facts. here is what is going on. here is what happens when you do
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this and when you do that, and that is starting to assert itself. you have to make decisions that have real impact and consequence. that's what i think you're seeing here. >> you think he is moving away from the isolationi isist retii? >> i think he is dealing with the reality of being president of the united states. it is a choice between two less than ideal options and you're trying to find out least harmful of the two. this whole flip-flop thing is political, something that people use in campaigns, but in every other aspect of their lives, people make different decisions that are perhaps different from what they thought. why should that not be the case for something as important as the presidency. >> does that mean you will never run a flip-flop add against an opponent ever again.
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>> i didn't hear that? i'm half teasing, but saying you will never use flip-flopping against an opponent again. it apearing president trump and former president obama are expressing a preference in who wins in france. >> i have not heard the president express a preference. i think he expressed a belief that he thinks the terrorist attacks help a particular candidate. i doubt whether my opinion, the president's opinion, the former president's opinion have a influence on how they vote and there will be a run off between two candidates, it looks like with very different points of view, and we'll need to react in one way or the other in terms of how it impacts our relationship
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with them. i'm not sure we'll have much swai over a french election. >> there is a lot of evidence that the russians are playing a role in the french election like they did in the u.s. election. are you investigating that as well in the intelligence committee the role that the russians having. >> i think there is plenty of open source reporting. i inforwas in france two months and they're involving in under minding macron, an independent running there, and they're dropping to prop up le pen. she took out massive loans. it is something that we're focused on in foreign relations and in the intelligence committee. that is not new, that is always.
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i have no doubt the measures existed for a long time, i think they have been weapon sized for a greater ex-te eer extent beca internet, social media, and fake news outlets. you saw that in the intelligence committee, but frankly multiple committees are looking at that stuff. >> all right, senator marco rubio, thank you for coming on. wish we could have done more. time is of the essence. you have probably seen this picture from the white house this week. some people are not there, including
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divide for fa dabases, democrat are most likely to be tennis fans followed by basketball, football, and baseball. nascar fans are most likely to be republican, and then hock. incide independents are most likely to be hockey fans. on the issues, nascar fans think president trump is doing the best job. basketball fans that like obamacare the most, and tagains the travel ban. if you're a basketball fan, you're likely to democrat, if you're a nascar fan, you're probably part of his base. you probably live in rural, southern, or conservative eri. and football, the most broad fan bait it slightly leans
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democratic. all of it is great news for political reporters, why? because the best way to measure his support this fall may simply just to be to show up at football stadiums. we're taking "meet the press" to lambeau. when we come back. what is more important to democrats? democrats? economic justice or abortion my sweetheart's gone sayonara. this scarf all that's left to rememb... what. she washed this like a month ago! the long lasting scent of gain. now available in matching scents across your entire laundry routine.
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back now with the panel. the democrats, what looked like the start of a graeat week for the democrats, and then i look at these headlines between the dnc, chair tom perez. san san sanity sour. bernie sanders unity tour. why is the democratic party appearing with someone that is not a democratic? >> because they share a lot of the same ideals and values. there is a disconnect between what you see as a grass rooms uprising and energy on the left. they put out a poll this week that shows enthusiasm advantage for democrats, but there is a disconnect and i think the democratic party, the dnc in
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particular, they have to work really hard to reach out and bring in young voters that were obama voters, not these necessarily direct voemocratic and bring them back in. tom perez spent his week having to backtrack on it. >> it is interesting, tom perez that is close to a purity test saying if you're a democrat you have to hold pro choice views. democrats have to work out these politics for themselves. they're going through something the republicans have and are arguably still going through. the grass roots, the energies on the far right, but will you win elections like that? >> there is a donor voter splint too, peggy. >> that is the real story. if i can put it this way, those
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that profit from women's health services, they give a lot of money to the democratic party. they should say thank you but we're going back to being a big tent party, broad, on social issues we're declaring go with your heart if you truly feel you're pro life and a democrat, go for it. the democratic party has, i think, been hurt very badly in terms of it's national reputation with the narrow sort of "you can't be in our party if you don't hold the right views on portion if would be a brilliant political move if they opened up. >> challenge for the democrats and i saw it up close in atlanta this week covering the special house election, how do win suburban voters, young professionals, young parents,
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and they're skittish about president trump. at the same time they want to win over and win back wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan. they need the bernie sanders energy. it will be a balance. >> i think what i took away from georgia is it is real. southern suburbia is the battleground for 2018. >> in 2006, we had a lot of pro-choice democrats. -- pro life democrats win. this will have to happen. it is absurd for them to be having this conversation. it looks like these districts where you have you know a fluent college educated white group of voters, because those voters, hi hillary did better. if you look at kansas and georgia, there is a double digit
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swing. there are still a few republican districts that i think will do well in georgia, but this swing should be troubling going into the midterm. >> we saw a lot of fights in the republican party. maybe they'll have a fight and win. >> i just think it is better for the country when each party looks like it stands for something serious for big things, but they're not narrow, and they're not bought. >> i agree. can we please someone speak up for the radical middle here. i think it is great to have competitive districts that can swing back. >> swing voter you want back? >> you fwhknow swhawhat is toug looking ahead, where is the candidates and where is the recruitment. >> and if you shut the door you limit people that may want to
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back now with "end game," a sea change in our media landscape. peggy, you wrote about this a bit. you said this about fox news and ayles and o'reilly. "i don't know what was in the water over there but it wasn't good, it was poisonous, and i'm glad they're doing environmental cleanup." at some point you referred to it as pigish. >> yes. we're having journalistic or ideological looks that we're taking at what has happened at fox news in the past year. but i think the big headline actually is it was a serious setback for sexual harassment in the workplace. that is a cliche, but it is a
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story that continues, and i think sexual harassment took it right on the chin with the fall of bill o'reilly and i'm happy about it. >> there are some that say that all that money means he didn't pay a price. >> you mean the money he got -- >> the payout. the golden chute for it. >> if you are against sexual harassment, you have to take your victories where you can. i'll quote peggy too. she said pigishness is not conservative. we have to get past where being against sexual harassment -- >> is somehow part of the political correctness -- >> some partisan category. can we just be against it? i think to quote peggy again, i think that's what the victory was this week. >> you cannot, though, not look at what's going on over at fox and say, look, bill o'reilly and roger ailes, jim pinkerton writes a provocative article at breitbart. he essentially said they understand how to talk to the trump voter before trump figured it out and now they're not there. >> when you look at barry
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goldwater and so many conservatives coming up with ronald reagan in the '60s, '70s, '80s, the republican party, conservatives were ideological. it's become in many parts because of fox news a grievance politics oriented movement, more about political correctness railing against the media than any kind of ideology, and that's where the republican party has found its trouble in recent years. it doesn't have this cohesive ideology anymore. >> and the question is will that be there anymore. i wish we had more time, but we don't. sorry. before we go, you'll get it on twitter, i promise, we'd like to mention that new york women in communications are going to honor my pal over here, savannah guthrie, tomorrow weather the matrix award. >> thank you. >> other winners have included may recall stre meryl streep and again ifill. congratulations. >> thank you. >> that's all we have for today. we'll be backek. thanks for coming in. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >> you can see more "end game
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