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president trump is willing to delay funding for his boarding wall. we're set to hear from the president on capitol hill this hour. the speech is a significant one, as he tries to overcome controversies surrounding his relationship with the jewish community. as north korea conducts another large scale military drill this morning, the pentagon is raising the stakes by flexing its own military muscle. is the north going to back down? first daughter ivanka trump gets a chilly reception in germany on her first international trip as a member of the administration. the crowd booing as ivanka tries to defend her father's advocacy record on families. good morning. i'm ali velshi. president trump scheduled to be heading to capitol hill in 20 minutes. he'll deliver the keynote address at the u.s. holocaust memorial museum's days of remembrance ceremony. it's held in the ro th tundra. every president has participated
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until the s in the ceremony. the president is now signaling that he is willing to delay the fight over funding his border wall to avoid a government shutdown at midnight on friday. notably, that will be the eve of his 100th day in office. and on the foreign policy front this morning, a new challenge by north korea, conducting what is being called a large scale, live fire drill, as it marks another important anniversary. that as u.s. warships, including a guided warship submarine arrives at the korean peninsula with a the show of force. we have our correspondents on the korean peninsula and at the white house. let's start with peter alexander at the white house. good morning. the president, it seems, backing away from a showdown over funding the border wall. same time, he's continuing to insist that it gets built. >> that's exactly the case right now. the president days ago had said the demand for this budget resolution, this spending bill
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that had to get passed this week to avoid a government shutdown, that it must include money to build that wall. now, in a conversation with some conservative reporters late yesterday, he said, well, if it doesn't happen this week, it's okay if it happens this fall. to be clear, the white house and white house aids es insist the border wall is a top priority for the president. the president tweeting about the topic moments ago. he did it earlier this morning. don't let the fake media tell you i've changed my position on the wall. it will get built and help stop drugs, human trafficking, et cetera. but this is a softening of the president's position. not so much about the wall but the timing of it. it appears he's trying to calm some jitters not just in washington but nationwide as the potential for a shutdown was approaching. remember, it would have happened as early as the end of this week. notably, saturday, which also marks his 100th day in office. ali? >> peter, the president putting me in an uncomfortable position
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here. he's starting a fight with canada. i'm canadian. what's going on here? >> this is not personal to you, but this is not the first time he's been talking about canada. in wisconsin last week, he was upset about what he described as a one-sided trade deal where canada is getting all the benefits out of this. yesterday in his conversation with conservative reporters, he proposed the idea of imposing a 20% tariff on soft wood lumber. he wrote today about his effort to push back, help support american dairy farmers. this is what he tweeted a short time ago, as well. this was after a conversation with the governor of wisconsin, scott walker. he wrote, canada has made business for our dairy farmers in wisconsin and other border states difficult. we will not stand for this. he accused the canadians of doing some, quote, very unfair things during that speech last week in wisconsin. wilbur ross, his commerce secretary, has been outspoken on this. there is bipartisan agreement on this. chuck schumer, the senate's top
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democrat, tweeted effectively in support of president trump's comments, saying he's been trying to do the same to help support the dairy farmers in new york. >> good to see you. thanks. we'll talk to you later. peter alexander at the white house. let's g to noro to north korea. the country marks a major anniversary. the 85th anniversary of the founding of north korea's army. nbc's kelly cobiella joins us from south korea. she's in seoul. kelly, good day to you. display of fire power by north korea's military, but no missile launch, no nuclear test and no sightings of kim jong-un. what's going on there? >> that's right. well, we expected something. analysts expected something, so did u.s. officials, frankly, on this day. some sort of show of force from the north korean regime. what we saw, although we haven't seen the pictures yet, ali, is signs of this massive artillery exercise in the east, in a city in the east close to a military
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pace there in north korea. according to media reports, there are about 300 to 400 pieces of long-range artillery fired off in this military exercise. there are also reports that kim jong-un was there. again, the state media hasn't put out any pictures, so we really can't verify any of that for ourselves. but as you mentioned, no nuclear test, no missile test. make no mistake, it's not because those two things aren't going to happen in the future. that's what this big debate internationally is all about. the north koreans have made clear they're moving forward with their nuclear program. just didn't happen today. it may be because of the u.s. military buildup and the heated rhetoric and the involvement of china on this right now. we simply don't know. a lot of this reading tea leaves happens when it comes to north korea, as you know. >> yeah. all right. kelly, we're going to keep on top of the story with you. kelly cobiella live in seoul,
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south korea. i want to bring in bruce, a senior research fellow at the heritage foundation. previously spent 20 years with the cia and the defense intelligence agency, including as the cia's deputy division chief for north korea. bruce, you know a lot about this. in an opinion piece for u.s. news and world report last week, you said president trump's policy for handling north korea appears to be strong, but the implementation so far has been weak. what do you mean by that? >> well, in my discussions with administration officials, it looks like they've got a good policy, the parameters of which restrengthen the u.s. military to offset the degradation because of budget cuts, augmenting military defense and no longer pulling punches on targeted financial measures against north korea. then having the door open for diplomat to diplomat talks but not going back to negotiations until north korea shows it is willing to negotiate. >> bruce, i'm letting the
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viewers know, on the left side of the screen, what you're seeing is president trump arr e arriving at capitol hill for the ceremony he will be taking part in, scheduled for 15 minutes from now. we're keeping a close eye on it. what you're looking at now, the president's vehicle is arriving. he will be walking in. this has taken place since the holocaust museum has been open in 1993. every president attended this holocaust memorial day event. we are expecting highly scripted comments from the president as he tries to mend the impression that he has given some that he has a problem with the jewish community. we'll keep a close eye on that. bruce, back to you. you also wrote in that same op-ed, contrary to widespread misconceptions that north korea is the most heavily sanctions, most cut off country on earth as president barack obama asserted, there is still much the u.s. can do to press lev lederage on the regime. iran was integrated into the
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rest of the world. north korea, 90% plus of its economy is dependent on trade with china. >> right. well, the thing is, the u.s. has pulled its punches. you talk to sanctions officials in the government. they said they have a list of chinese and north korean entities in the drawer that they have evidence that they were told to hold back on enforcing it. it is pull out a few entities every north korean provocation and save the rest for later. last year was the first year the u.s. sanctioned as many north korean entities as we had sanctioned s eed zimbabwe entit. the u.s. imposed $12 billion in fines on european banks for including money laundering for iran. we haven't touched a single chinese bank yet, and we know they're involved in facilitating north korea's prohibited nuclear
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programs. >> jason shchaffetz has taken t mic. >> the final determination, again, will have to come from the department of the army, as well as the department of defense. but as a former military officer, you simply cannot take money from russia, turkey or anybody else. it appears as if he did take that money. it was inappropriate. there are repercussions for the violation of law. >> good morning. i'd just like to read a very short statement. i want to be very careful because we are coming out of a classified briefing. first, we have just come from this briefing with the defense intelligence agency. they provided documents for us to review relating to general flynn. as you know, general flynn previouslynia and served as a national security
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adviser before he was fired by president trump. right now, we cannot discuss the contents of the documents we just saw because they are classified. but we can say this. they are extremely troubling. we have concerns. i believe these documents should be declassified to the fullest extent possible without compromising sources and methods. i want to thank chairman chaffetz, who joined our request for these documents. i believe that he feels the same. that the american people should be able to see these documents for themselves. second, we've been trying for several months to obtain general flynn's security clearance information to the chaian, whethehe purported payments he received for his trip to russia in 2015 when he designed with the russian president. we've now obtained general
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flynn's application to renew his security clearance in january 2016. this form is called an sf-86. general flynn filed his sf-86 a month after he traveled to moscow. however, there is no evidence, as the chairman said, anywhere in these documents that reported the funds he received for this trip. there's also no evidence that he sought permission to obtain these funds from a foreign source. this is a major problem. as the sf-86 explains, and i quote, all questions on this form must be answered completely and truthfully. it also says this, and let me quote directly, the united states criminal code title 18 section 1001 provides that kn
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knowingly falsifying or concealing a material fact is a felony, which may result in fines up to five years in imprisonment. paced on these documents, i believe we as the oversight committee should be holding a hearing with general flynn. i am seeing the chairman, and we talked briefly about this, and it seems that this is perhaps the purview of the intelligence committe and i understand that, mr. chairman. but we need to have the opportunity to ask general flynn directly why he concealed these foreign payments from the defense department. finally, let me say this, as part of our investigation, the chairman and i sent a bipartisan request. the white house chief of staff requesting a wide range of documents, including any, and i quote, referring or relating to lieutenant general flynn's
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contacts with foreign nationals. despite all of these very troubling developments, last wednesday on april 19th, we received a response from the white house refusing to provide any of the documents we requested. so we received no internal documents relating to what general flynn reported to the white house when they vetted him to become national security adviser. we received no documents relating to his termination, national security adviser, for concealing his discussion with the russian ambassador. in short, the white house refused to provide the committee with a single piece of paper in response to our bipartisan requests. that's simply unacceptable. today, i'm releasing the white house letter to you.
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i hope our committee will press upon the need to pvide the documents we are seeking. >> congressman? >> yes. >> from what you've seen so far, do you believe michael flynn broke the law by not disclosing the information on the security clearance or not giving the information about the foreign payments? >> personally, i see no information or no data to support the notion that general flynn complied with the law, and that is he was supposed to seek permission and receive permission from both the secretary of state and the secretary of the army prior to travel to russia to not only accept the payment but to engage in the activity. i see no evidence he actually did that. >> is it punishable up to five years -- >> that's why i cited the code. it is going to be left up to others to decide. just wanted to know what his exposure is. clearly, i agree with the
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chairman. i mean, he was supposed to get permission and he was supposed to report and he didn't. period. i mean, there's no evidence of it. >> we're not here to make the final determination. >> right. >> what we're going to do jointly is send the letter to the department of the army, the comptroller, specifically, as well as the inspector general there at the department of defense. at some point, they need to make that final determination. one of the remedies is to recover the money that was paid. above and beyond that, i don't know. >> is there any evidence in the files that general flynn's contacts went beyond russia and turkey? >> it's really not something we specifically looked at today. >> mr. chairman, do you think the white house is obstructing your investigation into these things by not rpondg to letter? >> no. this is something general flynn, before he ever joined the trump administration, this is something general flynn was supposed to do as a former
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officer. i don't know -- in fact, i'm fair ly curious as to how widespread this is. no military officer is allowed to accept foreign payments from a government. my guess is this isn't the first time it's happened, and it concerns me. >> mr. cummings, same question to you. do you think the white house is obstructing your investigation? >> we haven't got -- as i said at the end of my statement, we haven't gotten certain information that we've asked for. i can't -- i wouldn't call it obstruction. these things happen. and as far as the documents are concerned, hopefully we'll get them. by the way, it's interesting, the -- a lot of people were totally unfamiliar with the clause of the constitution, but it is something i talked about a long time ago and said, we should be able to avoid some of the problems we've had. it wouldn't have been avoidable here because this was done long
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before president trump came into office. but that is a clause that is very significant. it does not only apply to people like general flynn but, of course, to the president and his folks, too. >> mr. chairman, can you clarify how many documents were looked at today? >> i can't get into the details. >> you know better than that. >> a lot of it was a verbal briefing, too. >> can you clarify [ inaudible ]? >> look, the lead and investigative body is the select committee on intelligence. we have been pursuing this portion of it, the payments that happened prior to the inauguration of president trump. but the lead on this general investigation is the select committee on intelligence. i'll support what the select committee needs. we can play a role in certain parts but it is more of a supportive role than anything else. >> [ inaudible ]?
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>> i highly doubt it. >> will you issue subpoenas to get these records you're looking for? >> we haven't had to issue a subpoena so far. they've been cooperative at the department of defense and the state department and the white house. but in this particular case, the law requires him to seek peissit the -- from the secretary of state and from the department of defense. those are the entities of which we've been seeking information and have received information. the response we're getting is there is no information. that, we believe, is the potential violation. >> thank you all very much. >> thanks very much. >> we're going to get kasie hunt to give us some analysis on this. i'll give you a couple pieces of context i couldn't give you as jason chaffetz started speaking. jason chaffetz, the chairman, and elijah cummings, the chairman of the oversight committee, came out of a briefing. they couldn't give us the classified part of it.
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the non-classified part is they continue to -- they worded it backwards. it's not that they've seen evidence that michael flynn has done something wrong. there is no evidence that michael flynn, who was obliged to seek clearance for and report that he was taking money from a foreign government, did so, something that jason chaffetz was asked directly about. do you believe he broke the law? his response is there was no information he complied with the law. the white house declined a request in writing from the committee to provide information, specifically to documents relating to general flynn's contacts wh foreign nationals, including communication between general flynn and foreign representatives and affiliates. the white house said, that's classified. you can't have it. jason and elijah were saying the information should be declassified. i think we have kasie hunt available to give us more
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analysis. i was trying to do your job as well as you do, describing what just happened. fill in the blanks for me and tell me what you make of this. >> you were doing a great job of it, ali. this is pretty remarkable, to have both the chairman and ranking member of this oversight committee come out together. it's not something we see very often. and say they have a problem with what has gone on here, which is that the white house has declined to provide any documents that this committee demanded in a bipartisan way related to what you were outlining, whether michael flynn had inappropriate contacts or inappropriately accepted money from a foreign government. the one gok yudocument in parti is an sf-86. to apply for a security cheer clearance from the government, you have to fill out a very long document, detailing your past, your friends, if you've been overseas, any contacts you've had with people overseas.
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so that's the information that they're looking for. the white house, of course, would have that document. the white house though has referred them to the department of defense. essentially said, sorry, we can't help you with this. that's what you heard chaffetz and cummings saying was unacceptable right there. i think you were talking a little bit about whether or not michael flynn had broken the law. in talking to the chairman, chaf chaffetz, over the course of the last couple weeks and months on this issue, this is something they've been focused on for a while, the concern is around that payment that he received to speak from rt, which is a state-related media enterprise in russia. chaffetz's thinking is flynn as a former military officer shouldn't be allowed to accept payments on behalf of a forei government. so you heard chaffetz talking a litt bit about that the at the end of the press conference. the other piece of think find interesting, ali, is you'll
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remember jason chaffetz made an announcement last week he is not going to run for re-election. meaning he will step down from the committee. elijah cummings said they received the information on wednesday that this was not going to be provided. chaffetz's announcement came on friday. we have no concrete evidence it is connected. >> we have no clear answer why chaffetz is not running again and says he may leave early. though elijah cummings and jason chaffetz have shared a good relationship on the committee. >> they have. >> president trump has arrived a few moments ago at capitol hill for a ceremony. tell us a bit about that. >> that's right, ali. this is a holocaust remembrance ceremony. it is a regular event at the united states capitol. a somber occasion. we're down in this hallway because the president walked by here a few moments ago on his way up to the rotunda.
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of course, the ceremonial center of the u.s. capitol where the ceremony will take place. there have been some controversies surrounding the trump administration's way of communicating around the holocaust and all that went with it. so i think he'll be watched very closely today to see how he approaches this particular question and this somber speech. we do also know, of course, that he declared a week of holocaust remembrance this week. so clearly, the white house trying to make sure they are focused on this in the appropriate way. ali? >> all right. we are just watching the assembled groups there in preparation for the president's comment. we understand, kasie, that given the fraught nature of his comments, or lack thereof, about the holoust and relating to the threats to jewish community centers and things like that, that the expectation here is that the president will stay on
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script and be very disciplined in his message. >> i think that makes a lot of sense, ali. i mean, as you point out, they have come under criticism for, you know, not -- the critical statement against the jewish people relating to thie issue. there was the period of time for the threats against the jewish community centers and the white house was criticized for their lack of response to that. the president will probably stay close to script. he has on the ceremonial occasions at the capitol, it seems largely stayed on the scripts. h i think today there is a more intense imperative than ever to do that. ali? >> kasie, i'll take a break. i probably want to come back and talk to you about the possibility of the government shutdown. you've got a lot on your plate this week. kasie hunt at the capitol. we'll take a quick break.
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when we come back, all eyes will remain on the capitol where president trump will soon deliver remarks at the u.s. holocast memorial museum, days of remembrance, taking place in the capitol's rotundra. we'll take you his remarks live when they begin.
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we are keeping an eagle eye on the capitol there on the left side of your screen. that's the rotunda. president trump will soon deliver remarks at the u.s. holocaust memorial museum's days of remembrance.
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this is an annual holocaust remembrance event. now, here is donald trump, the president of the united states, about to make his comments. let's listen in. >> thank you very much. thank you. friends, members of congress, ambassadors, veterans and most especially to the survivors here with us today, it's an honor to join you on this very, very solemn occasion. i'm deeply moved to stand before those who survived history's
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darkest hour. your cherished presence transforms this place into a sacred gathering. thank you, tom bernstein, allen holt, sarah bloomfield and everyone at the holocaust memorial counsel and museum for your vital work and tireless contributions. we are privileged to be joined by israel's ambassador to the united states, friend of mine. he's done a great job and said some wonderful words, ron dermer. the state of israel is an eternal d eternal monument to the undying strength of the jewish people. the dream that burned in the hearts of the oppressed is now filled with the breath of life and the star of david waves atop
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a great nation, arisen from the desert. to those in the audience who have served america in uniform, our country eternally thanks you. we are proud and grateful to be joined today by veterans of the second world war who liberated survivors from the camps. your sacrifice helped save freedom for the world, for the entire world. sadly, this year marks the first day of remembrance since the passing of elie wiesel, a great person, a great man.
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his absence leaves an empty space in our hearts, but his spirit fills this room. it is the kind of gentle spirit of an angel who lived through hell and whose courage still lights the path from darkness. though elie's story is very well-known by so many people, it's always worth repeating. he suffered the unthinkable horrors of the holocaust. his mother and sister perished in auschwitz. he watched his father slowly dying before his own young eyes. he live tld through an endless nightmare of murder and death, and he enscriinscribed on our collective conscious the duty we have to remember that long, dark
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night, so as never to again repeat it. the survivors in this hall, through their testimony, fulfilled the righteous duty to never forget and engrave into the world's memory the nazi genocide of the jewish people. your witnessed evil and what you saw is beyond description. beyond any description. many of you lost your entire family, everything and everyone you loved, gone. you saw mothers and children led to mass slaughter. you saw the starvation and the torture. you saw the organized attempt at the extermination of an entire
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peop people, and great people, i must add. you survived the ghettos, the concentration camps and the death camps. and you persevered to tell your stories. you tell of these living nightmares because despite your great pain, you believe in elie's famous plea that, for the ad and the living, we must bear witness. that is why we are here today. to remember and to bear witness. to make sure that humanity never, ever forgets, the nazis massacre, 6 million jews. 2 out of every 3 jews in europe were murdered in the genocide. millions more innocent people
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were imprisoned and executed by the nazis without mercy, without even a sign of mercy. yet even today, there are those who want to forget the past. or still, there are even those filled with such hate, total hate, that they want to erase the holocaust from history. those who deny the holocaust are an accomplice to this horrible evil and wie'll never be silent. we just won't. we will never, ever be silent in the face of evil again. [ applause ]
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denying the holocaust is only one of many forms of dangerous anti-semitism that continues all around the world. we've seen anti-semitism on university campuses, in the public square and in threats against jewish citizens. even worse, it's been on display in the most sinister manner, when terrorists attack jewish communities, or when aggressors threaten israel with total and complete destruction. this is my pledge to you, we will confront anti-semitism. [ applause ] we will stamp out prejudice.
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we will condemn hate rred. we will bear witness and we will act. as president of the united states, i will always stand with the jewish people. and i will always stand with our great friend, and partner, the state of israel. [ applause ] so today, we remember the 6 million jewish men, women and children whose lives and dreams were stolen from this earth. we remember the millions of other innocent victims t nazis so brutally targeted and so p t brutally killed. we remember the survivors who bore more than we can imagine. we remember the hatred and evil
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that sought to extinguish human life, dignity and freedom. but we also remember the light that shone through the darkness. we remember sisters and brothers who gave everything to those they loved. survivors like steven springfield, who in the long death march, carried his brother on his back. as he said, yours tru"i just co give in." we remember the brave souls who banded together to save the lives of their neighbors, even at the risk of their own life. and we remember those first, hopeful moments of liberation, when at lost last, the american soldiers arrived in camps and cities throughout occupied europe, waving the same, beautiful flags before us today,
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speaking those three glorious words, "you are free." it is this love of freedom, this embrace of human dignity, this call to courage in the face of evil, that is survivors here today have helped torite on to our hearts. the jewish people have endured oppression, persecution and those who have sought and planned their destruction. yet through the suffering, they have persevered. they have thrived. and they have enlightened the world. we stand in awe of the unbreakable spirit of the jewish people. i want to close with a story enshrined in the museum that captures the moment of
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liberation in the final days of the war. it is the story of gerda klein. a young jewish woman from poland. some of you know her. gerda's family was murdered by the nazis. she spent three years in prison in labor camps. the last four months of the war on a terrible death march. she assumed it was over. at the end, on the eve of her 21st birthday, her hair had lost all of its color. she weighed a mere 68 pounds. yet she had the will to live another day. it was tough. gerda later recalled the moment she realized that her long-awaited deliverance had arrived. she saw a car coming towards
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her. many cars had driven up before, but this one was different. on its hood, in place of that wretch wretched swastika, was a bright, beautiful, bloodstreamgleaming . two american soldiers got up. one walked up to her. the first thing gerda said was what she had been trained to say. "we are jewish, you know. we are jewish." and then he said, "so am i." it was a beautiful moment after so much darkness. after so much evil. as gerda took this soldier to see other prisoners, the american did something she had long forgotten to even expect. he opened the door for her.
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in gerda's words, that was the moment of restoration of humanity, of humanness, of dignity and of freedom. but the story does not end there. because as some of you know, that young american soldier, who liberated her, and who showed her such decency, would soon become her husband. a year later, they were married. in her words, he opened not only the door for me, but the door to my life and to my future. gerda has since spent her life telling the wrorld of what she witnessed. she, like those survivors, were among us today. has dedicated her life to shining a light of hope through the dark of night.
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your courage strengthens us. your voices inspire us. and your stories remind us that we must never, ever shrink away from telling the truth about evil in our time. evil is always seeking to wage against the innocent and to destroy all that is good and beautiful about our common humanity. but evil can only thrive in darkness. and what you have brought us today is so much more powerful than evil. you have brought us hope. hope that love will conquer hatred. that right will defeat wrong. and that peace will rise from the ashes of war. each survivor here today is a
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be beacon of light, and it only takes one light to illuminate even the darkest space. just like it takes only one truth to crush a thousand lies. and one hero to change the course of history. we know that in the end, good will triumph over evil. and that as long as we refuse to close our eyes or to silence our voices, we know that justice will ultimately prevail. so today, we mourn, we remember, we pray and we pledge, never again. thank you. god bless you. and god bless america. thank you very much. thank you. >> president trump at the
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capitol rotunda for the u.s. holocaust museum's an alldaynua of remembrance ceremony. i'm joined by the columnist now for the daily beast. he started off stiff. he was soft. as he sort of felt more comfortable in his own skin, he leaned in. the end of that sounded a lot more like donald trump. but this has been a long learning curve for him. >> yeah. >> talking to jews about the holocaust, making reference to the fact that there were jews in the holocaust. his administration and he have become wrapped around their own axle on this one a number of times. what's your -- do you think this is now behind them? >> well, this was a very good speech. it's probably the best speech that donald trump has ever given. he said something that needed to be said. it's important to hear these words from an american president. i think they help in the fight
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against holocaust deniers, and there are quite a number of donald trump supporters around the world and nationalist movements abroad and here at home who are, if not holocaust deniers, anti-semites. jewish reporters, including myself, hear from these people all the time. >> yeah. >> trump people who besiege us with anti-semitic material. so this was an important and good speech because i think it said to them, i'm not with you. i'm president. you're supposed to be for me. i'm not endorsing these ideas. it does begin to put behind him these problems he had where first they issued a statement on holocaust remembrance day that did not include any reference to jews. instead of apologizing for it, they doubled down on it. >> it want to put that on the screen. the statement read, it is impossible to fully fathom the depravity and horror inflicted
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on innocent people. you need to say the jews were in the holocaust. >> this is black historyto blac. this happened at the beginning of his administration. they doubled down on it, said there was no mistake made. at a press conference, he bit the head off. >> it was a relatively friendly question. >> he had dug himself into a hole on this. i think he began to dig himself out today. >> yeah. >> it is important to remember that the same time, his people are saying good things about marine le pen in france. this is -- >> and her movement, the right-wing movement in france -- >> is anti-semitic. >> steve bannon said proudly that breitbart was a platform of the alt-right. it is a anti-semitic movement
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where they were doing the -- when they thought reporters had left. >> adviser to the president -- >> another example. >> claims to be a member of an organization which is believed to be an anti-semitic right-wing organization. >> not believed to be, it was. he said that was my father who belonged to it. >> but he wore the pin. >> yeah. >> has not repudiated that movement. so there are these continuing issues. the most important line in the speech, i thought, beyond, never forget, is when he said, we need to embrace human dignity. >> mm-hmm. >> if donald trump can get that ide in all of its rems, not just as it relates to jews but as it relates to human beings in general, and move back to a respect for human dignity, a basic respect for other people, his presidency will be much improved. >> jonathan, we appreciate your analysis of this. your thoughtful analysis.
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debut on the women's stage at an event promoting women's economic impowerment. she said she was proud of her father's advocacy for working families. listen closely, it's hard to hear. >> he has been a tremendous champion of supporting families and enabling them to thrive in the new reality of -- >> you, you hear the reaction from the audience so i need to address one more point, some attitudes towards women, in former times, he might lev one women questioning whether or not he is really all that empowering for women. how are things changing? >> i certainly heard the criticism for the media and it has been perpetuated, but i know from personal experience, and i think the thousands of women that have worked with and for my
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father for decades when he was in the private sector are a testament to his belief and solid conviction in the potential of women. >> joining me now to get into this is liz winstead. on that stage, angela miracle, probably the most powerful woman in the world, kristine legard. one of the most powerful journalists and now a politician in the world, and -- >> and clothing designer ivanka trump. >> is this the woman that should be representing the united states on a major important global stage talking about women's issues? >> no, especially since all of those women got there because they had to, in some way shape or form, create policies that work. see the policies implemented.
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trermny has one of the most incredible policies when it comes to women in the workplace, and what she was laying out about her dad, making it a media conspira conspiracy, he says my father thinks women have great potential. >> that was an interesti ining t for her, saying i heard that, and that has been perpetuated. it is so interesting to me every single time, people really love mess up, they don't get better if we deny they're messing up, and we watch it time and time again. so for her to be one of the number one advocatn the ear of this person, who is tone deaf
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on issues. it does us no service, and she does no service. >> for someone, a woman that has some accomplishments in that she has one some things, does she have a roll to play in making trump understand the issues that women face and ways to support them? does she play a role? >> if she is put in a position to do that, yes. if she doesn't understand who working women are, low income women, women of color, that are struggling under what these -- what her father lobs on, she should probably go back to the clothing business. >> she wrote an op-ed saying that more needs to be done to
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empower women economically. here is the quote. we need to redistribute care work, and offer programs to trained female entrepreneurs. we need to develop new legal and regulatory frameworks to boost productivity. if she means it, wrote it, and can have influence on the president so support that stuff, you're a businesswoman, this is what people need. >> that is what people with an mba going into business need? they also need access to their destiny. the first thing in an economic freedom path is access to birth control. >> and you don't think, if she doesn't come out and support maintaining funding or allowing states to continue to fund planned parenthood. >> that is all crap to me. if you do not see her economic free, especially out of college,
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low income, deciding if you want kids or more kids, if that's not first then she is deaf to that. >> separately from that. do you in the first 100 days, has he been better or worse for women based on what you expected. >> he gave license to a lot of things that -- i thought it was bad, i didn't know it was -- i am just one of those people who thought it is getting worse and worse. i think gorsuch on the court is terrifying. as we talk about will roe v wade be overturned, a lot of states are creating, if it does get overturned, terrifying models of what their laws will look like. alabama just passed a law that
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said borks wi-- abortion will b abolished in their state. >> what is your message? >> that we're trying to help communities who can help create community around the clinics that are doing good work. help them advocate and learn for themselves. there is nothing better than to rally them with a comedy show. we think we can grow great advocates. >> cocreator of "the daily show" and fiekter for women's p reproductive rights. right now on msnbc, andrea mitchell resports. >> thank you and right now,
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stonewalled. the white house refusing a bipartisan white house request for documents that show that michael flin did not disclose payments from russian and turkish governments when submitting to security clearance last year. >> personally i see no information or data that he complied with the law. >> we need the opportunity to ask general flin directly why he concealed these foreign payments from the defense department. >> borderlines, facing a potential government shut down at the end of the week, the president climbs down from the border wall. >> if the threat of the wall is removed, as i hope is the case, we can continue. >> i look forward to m