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stonewalled. the white house refusing a bipartisan white house request for documents that show that michael flin did not disclose payments from russian and turkish governments when submitting to security clearance last year. >> personally i see no information or data that he complied with the law. >> we need the opportunity to ask general flin directly why he concealed these foreign payments from the defense department. >> borderlines, facing a potential government shut down at the end of the week, the president climbs down from the border wall. >> if the threat of the wall is removed, as i hope is the case, we can continue. >> i look forward to more
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productive conversation with our senators and colleagues in the house to we can get this important work done soon. >> and the berlin wall, ivanka trump runs into a tough crowd when she praises her father at an audience in germany. >> you hear the reaction from the audience, so -- >> coming up, our conversation about women, power, and the workplace with anita hill who changed the conversation a quarter century ago. and good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the white house refusing the request for white house documents. receiving payments from groups tied to russiand turkey. kristen welker is at the white
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house. you see the camera trained there on the holocaust memorial event. let's talk about chairman chaffetz saying mike flynn may have violated rules regarding his financial disclosures. >> that's right, he didn't disclose the payments he got from russia. did not disclose the information about meetings he had with russian officials, and that the white house stonewalled their request for more information. let me read you the letter that was sent. he said it is unclear how such documented would be relevant that was meant to determine disclosure of payments that occurred in 2015 and 2016 prior
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to his service in the white house. the white house saying they didn't possess all of the documents being requested. bottom line here is this continues to cast a cloud from the administration and the times from the president's perspective could not be worse. he is about to mark his 100th dain office. he wants to talk about his accomplishments and this was a big problem in the beginning of his administration. he essentially fired mike flynn, and this is something that press secretary sean spicer will be pressed on when he gives us his daily briefing at 2:00 p.m. i have been reaching out to white house officials in personperson, on the phone, they're still digesting this and trying to put out a reaction.
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again, no immediate reaction from the white house to that press conference you sicited. >> and let me play a little bit of what jason said to kacie hunt. >> it doesn't appear that he complied with the law. >> that is a very careful statement, i know you're waiting for the possibility of the president to walk by, let's get your take away, this is as committees on both sides are trying to develop information, they have been accused of show walking their information, and here in the house they're just getting under way. >> that's right they are holding that rare bipartisan press conference. they asked for documents relating to his they said okay
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then, we'll just go on to the department of armynd defense to try to figure out the answers to our questions. he said it looks like general flin just didn't do what he was supposed to do and so there was no paper work included. i think we're potentially seeing the president walking this way. we'll keep an eye on it for you. but i think at the end of the day here, clearly there is increasing pressure on the white house to do more to try and help these committees figure out what they need for this investigation. they both said they play a supporting role in this and it is coming as there is increase
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grumblings where they're saying the information is not good enough. we have heard agreement that they are working well, and they're hoping it could unfold in a participant way. that is the other thing that we're watching on this. we're going to wait and see if the comes back, but meanwhile the foreign policy front, the president is acknowledging that th north korea is a "big problem." kelly, thank you for being with us today. you have a lot of things happening simultaneously. you have the arrival in the region of the carl vincent. yo a submarine pulling in on surfaces there as well, and now
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the drills tay in north korea. what else are we seeing from the north koreans? >> we're seeing the typical threats that we have seen in the past several weeks now. threats saying that, you know, the north koreans will devastate u.s. ships, that they will sink the uss carl vincent, and also this large artillery exercise on the east coast of north korea. no nuclear test, no missile test yet, just this live fire exercise. what does this mean? what kind of symbol or messages is the north korean leader trying to send, it is a mystery that lots of people are trying to figure out, but no nuclear test yet and that was pretty key. >> and no nuclear test, no missile test, and we're waiting
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to see what they might do next any day now. we see all of the preparations and if it is more bluster or if they will really test. as we continue to wait for the president to leave the hill, i want to bring in david cohen who was in charge of sanctions against iran and russia in the ukraine crisis. let's talk first, we have a situation on capitol hill evolving as we speak where mike flynn, the national security advisor who had a top current clearance, and applied for and received security clearances, apparently according to the paperwork they have seen so far from the pentagon and the state department, did not realize he got money for peaches to
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agencies connected to turkey. what is the potential legal issue here? i know you're a lower, too. >> i will say the purpose of those forms is so the security clearance can be adjudicated. you're required to disclose all of your foreign contacts and payments from foreign parties to that a decision can be made on whether or not to grant the security clearance. that's the basic purpose of the form. i don't know what was general flynn's form, but that is what is required. >> and he was very late to disclose that he was a foreign agent for turkey at a time when he was having meetings and po phone calls, setting up meetings with the president elect at the time. so there a lot of conflict issues that are permanent.
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they are saying we're not going to act on this it proceeded his tenure at the white house. >> so the question here is is this for the white house or general flynn, being an agent for a foreign power or getting paid, that is all information relevant to the security clearance and adjudication process. >> you wrote a provocative article this weekend about ways the administration can avoid a military confrontation. just the other night the president had another conversation with president xi. and president xi is telling the north koreans to back down, but also wants the president to back down. and you have a suggestion for a way out to use secondary
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sanctions that would hit china hard, explain. >> what the administration is doing is trying to build leverage for a negotiation. their new maximum pressure strategy is similar to the strategy that the obama administration pursued with respect to iran. building up leverage with the threat of military action, all of the signaling on the military side is part of it, but my junction is that there is more question do to impose economic and financial pressure. the tool that we used in the obama administration with respect to iran was the secondary sanctions that put financial institutions to a choice. they have access to the u.s. financial system, but they can't
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do both. >> and basically you're telling the chinese banks, you know, either prop up north korea, which you claim you don't really want to do, or if you're going to continue to do that, you cannot do business in the international collar economy. that is a big deal. >> and the way that north korea is still able to ak esz the international economy is threw these company that's are set up in china and have bank accounts. and the secondary sanctions would require the chinese banks to make a decision. do they want to continue to host accounts, or do they want access to the international financial system. this worked extraordinarily well with respect to iran. even in china, there was a bank that was doing business with a sanctioned iranian bank. we went to the chinese and said you should have them stop this.
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they essentially said we're not paying attention to this, it is not a u.n. security council. the chinese, they issued a process, and they worked to ensure that bank stopped working with iran. it was a mid size chinese bank, and i think you could squeeze the economy. play on the scene between kim jong-un and the elite, for his critical hold on power. and it is a way that we can develop leverage. >> thank you so very much. a way to get out of the crisis without firing guns and missiles. thank you for being here. trip advisor. why a touting of the president's
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today, state department officials are cleaning up a mess over a three-week old blog postsawing the mar-a-lago resort
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the winter white house. it was intended to inform the public about where the president has been hosting world leaders. it is a private club, and there is something in the constitution, and joining me now is david and carol lee the poich points that pumping up mar-a-lago, it is owned by trump. he still owns all of the trump businesses, and it costs $200,000 a year to be a member. club members get to smooze and visit with visiting heads of state. >> right and what you saw with the state department's postis they mixed this very private club with something that had any involvement with the government, and it doesn't.
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we have seen the cost for membership double, and also that he spends a lot of time there meeting with people that the public doesn't necessarily know he is meeting with. he had a meeting with two former heads in columbia. when we travel with the president while he is in florida we don't know who is bending his here on various things. the president runs into people, and he just so happens to bump into people. if he was having these feelings at the white house, you could not give that excuse because it is very intentional. to say that hi is childhooding to run into people, there is a
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casualness. there is a number of quest about the president, it is obvious, they have all of these businesses and this is something that will constant i will be an issue throughout his presidency. >> president abe, and president xi. he is using mar-a-lago, and we hear he will also use a golf resort in new jersey this summer, not spending a lot of weekends in washington. >> i think it is not surprising that this president, like others, would choose some place to have meetings with foreign leaders and others. richard nixon did that, almost eve every president does this. trump doesn't seem to understand
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the tell case problem of straddling public and private in the case of this profit making private club. it is important, the public should not be commanding that he stop going there, but there should be clearer rules so there is no benefit to doing public business. it seems so obvious and the white house three months in still doesn't get it. >> i want to play part of ivanka trump. there with very prominent and accomplished women. kristine legard to the -- this is what happened, there was booing from the audience, she talked about her father.
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>> he has been a champion of families, and enabling them to thrive in the new reality of -- >> you hear the reaction from the audience. i need to address one more point. your father has publicly displayed in former times might leave one questioning where she such an empowerer for women. ho does he relate to that? are things changing? >> i heard the criticism from the media and it h been perpetuated, but i know from personal experience and i think the thousands of women who have worked with and for my father for decades and the belief and solid conviction and potential of women, and their ability to
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do the job as well as any man. >> it comes at a time when the budget is hitting planned parentfood aparen parenthood and a lot of issues in play for his administration. >> first, kudos to the moderator on that panel because it seemed like ivanka trump want going to just talk through it. he is not necessarily popular overseas. we're seeing that reflected in ivanka trump's trip. in terms of the president's views on women. i think it is interesting that she created the nar rativenarra. but the president does believe in women, wants to empower
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women, and has a history of empowering women and promoting them. and it is what you will hear from her going forward. >> thank you so much to carol lee and david ignacious. hitting a wall, a campaign promise getting put on the back burp burner for now. senator joe manchan joining us next. if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance
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. and while president trump down plays the first 100 days in office, sean spicer is also coming under the micro scocrmic. we look at the highs and lows. >> a rocky start for the new white house press secretary. this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period. >> berating reporters. >> these attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong. >> he may have the toughest job in washington, speaking for a president who insiders say
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demands loyalty over all else. >> an honor to do this, and yes i believe that we have to be honest with the american people. i think we can sometimes disagree about the facts. >> with controversies often leads to just that. a disagreement on basic facts. >> even general flynn of the campaign. >> thisit is why part of the da press briefing has become at times a battle royal. stop shaking your head again. >> and must see tv. >> from word games. >> he is using the words that the media is using. >> has he himself call it'd a ban. >> to offensive defense of policy. >> someone as despicable as
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hitler. >> spicy is going bye bye i need a big boy nap. >> in reality, spicer is speaking to an audience of one, the president. >> keep the confidence of the president, his most important audience, but we can't lose credibility with the others that have to listen to him. >> carr says he is reassured that spicer is learning to apologize. >> i let the president down. that definitely goes down as not a good day in my history. >> nicole wallace, the communication corrector for president bush knows firsthand what it's like to stand up for the president. >> the worst moments are when he knowingly or inadvertently uses
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the podium to tell something less than the truth. >>picer has earned a gold star in trump's book saying he is not firing him because that guy "gets great ratings" everyone tunes in. >> and joining me now are people with great ratingratings, katie jean, jean, who is now the wall street bureau deputy chief, congratulations. the first 100 days, the president is backing down on clearly the health care promise. things that he promised. me made the big deal out of 100 days, then not so much. the tax overhaul. you can't deliver that kind of major economic plan in 100 days. >> no. >> perhaps not even the first year. >> he has done a lot of announcing, and the white house is trying to have it both ways.
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donald trump is trying to say this 100 day construct is a fabricated thing by the media, but at the same time he has done more than any other president has done in his first 100 days. he set the bar very high for himself, and he started doing it long ago on the campaign trail. he listed a contract he would have with the american voter he would have if they voted him into office. and he has gotten some of those things done, he lifted the block on the keystone pipeline. lifted regulations on the coal industry, and he nominated and got confirmed neil gorsuch. at the same time he gave himself a host of others that are almost impossible to do and that he has not been able to do. one of them was a tax overhaul. calling china a currency
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manipulator. now he is saying that china is helping us with the north korea threat. also renegotiating nafta. we have not seen that happen so far, and it has almost 100 days, and he has not done that yet. it could happen down the line, but not in the first 100 days. he said he would tear it up on day one. also blocking syrianrefugees, so he made these grand promises on the campaign trail, in the transition, and in the early teena stages of presidency, but so far the bar he set for himself has been a little tie hioo high for to reach. >> and you have empty corridors, reince priebus pushed back on
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this. so mark murray from our political team went to the public partnership, the private partnership, the data on this, 58 people have been nominated 58 people. 25 of the 58 have been confirmed. where is the bottleneck? >> it is really at the white house. they have not put forth the number of names and people that they need to fill these positions. as we stand right now, there are only two departments in the entire government that have more than one person sitting at one nominee now in office. so only two departments have two people at the top. everywhere else, one person. they simply have not named the people that will going to fill these positions.
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one bottleneck can be the office of government ethics that has to review their financials, and the bottom neck there, you have 20 or 30 people in that pipeline for the trump administration. at this point for the obama administration, you had more than 200 because they had just named more people and put them in the nominating process. >> and they also have much more complex financial backgrounds. >> it is really thoking. the office of government ethics rates them 1 to 5. obama's was one to two. the vast majority for trump are four and fives. >> billionaires? >> yes. >> thank you very much. >> coming up, more problems for national security advisor michael flynn. the latest on that, and the russian investigation, coming up, senator joe manchin.
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as a former military officer, you can't take money from turkey or russia or anyone else. there are repercussions for the violation of law. >> more mike flynn criticism.
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senator, welcome and good to see you. >> good to be with you. talk about mike flynn, the argument is that he should have disclosed the connections to russia and turkey, do you expect to be briefed on this? >> we'll have a briefing this afternoon, yes we expect to be briefed on that. we know that mike flynn has done work for the countries you described there, and we know that he cannot file with the justice department. whether he didn't think he had to, there is some kind of a disconnect there. we're going to find out to what degree this is a how much he wants to go forward with it, but it is serious. >> there is criticisms that the senate committee is not moving ahead as quickly as they hoped it would. how is it being resolved? >> we are all anticipating, we want this thing to move as fast
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as possible. you can be a show horse or a workhorse. i think they're going behind the and it doing this case. we can go out with all of the flash, bring out all of the people you hear about in the press, or build up from the base to give us something con degree. they are not going to be coming in and acting like know thing we have all of the intell. >> but what about the criticism that the staff doesn't have prosecutors or people that have the energy to do the huge job. >> i understand it has been requested and granted. finding the right people, i can't give you that, how far we're under staffed at this time, but we have a very
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professional staff. they are working diligently on this. we want to share what we find, our findings that we can share with you and we think that they will do something more thorough temperatures. >> the president is willing to postpone his demand for money for the wall to mexico until a later part of the cycle to get past this deadline. >> there should never be talk about a shut down. we should stay long enough here to do our job. i don't know why everyone thinks you you have to go home at a certain time. i have talked to president trump and my big conrn is the miner
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protection act which they worked for and negotiated for and they will be set. they said i would force a shut down, i'm not forcing a shut down, i will require they not leave until we fish this. he says they support the miners, they sported him and they want to get it issued once and for all. >> thank you for being with us today. coming up, a new message for women. she joins us next here on andrea mitchell resports. reports. protect business,
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change? >> i'm not so sure it will ever change until more women -- >> that was close to midnight, 1991, it had been a dramatic day of hearings for clarence thomas. thomas denied the charges and called the or deal a high class lynching. now a quarter century later, the conversation about women in the workplace is once again front and center. profession hill, very good to see you again, thank you for joining us. >> it is good to be with you today, andrea. >> i wanted to play a little bit of your testimony from back then. and talk about what has
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happened. this is what you said back in 1991. >> it would have been more comfortable to remain silent. it took no initiative to inform anyone. i took to initiative, but when i was asked to report my experience i felt i had to tell the truth and i could not keep silent. >> how much has changed and how much has not change more importantly for women in the workplace since your system? >> i would just disagree spliegtly that what has changes is as important as what has not
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changed. we have a pub tlak lic that is behind the issue. in 1991 deniers, including some members of the senate judiciary committee. we also have people who understand now that sexual harassment is a violation of civil ghts laws and individuals who are victims are actually hurt in ter of their work place opportunity and educational opportunities. so that's important. that's a moment. the reason it's important is because i think that's what's going to happen get to the things that haven't changed. women are still not coming forward to press charges or bring complaints in the work place. as much as 70, 80% of the women who experience harassment fail to complain. we haven't figured out exactly
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how we can take into account the structures that keep the problem in place, how do we build into our systems the kinds of processes that are fair to victims of harassment and help build in misunderstandings about the problems, how do we, in fact, take into account other identity factors that can exacerbate the problem or make it harder for people to come -- for women to come forward. like the status in the work place, like class issues and racial issues and sexual identity issues that inhibit people from coming forward. so, there are some things that we are still learning, but i do want to applaud the progress that we've made. >> bill o'reilly in a podcast came out and said he would be
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vindicated and rejecting all the accusations against him. are you surprised at the culture that was exposed, certainly by -- and by paying these settlements, obviously fox news is acknowledging that this culture existed? >> i think that a lot is gained through the recognition of a system as large as fox network. once we know that this is happening in places that maybe we wouldn't expect it to happen or we can begin to understand how much power is at play here, and not simply just individual behavior, but also how the fox network structures kept the harassment in place by buying people or paying women who had been harassed, who brought complaints, and also keeping
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those complaints secret. these are -- this is where the system sort of steps in. and i think there's a lot to be learned from that. and people will move forward because of this. we learn not only from women who have bravely come forward like those women with fox, like the women who are still coming forward like the three african-american women now who have come forward, we also learn from individual chose claims have come forward and haven't prevailed. i was on a panel a week ago with alan powell who in silicon valley raised a claim against cliner perkins she didn't prevail but we learned from that as well and we also learned that in particular that silicon valley has a problem with under representation and failure to include women. and like you -- like was heard
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on the tape earlier the fact that we don't have women in leadership power, in full representation of women in leadership power, is one of the things that is keeping us from moving forward. >> and it's banking, it's broadcasting, clearly, it's silicon valley as you point out, certainly in academia there have been issues over the years. there are a lot of industries where there are power relationships, women and people of color are underrepresented and don't feel empowered but they do have legal rights. >> we have legal rights, but they're -- one of the fears that people have is that there will be retaliation. and the laws that protect against retaliation, do exist. somehow we still don't trust them enough to examine forward. there's an eeoc report, committee report, that came out
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last summer that talks about the failure of our structures to instill confidence in the people who have been harassed, and we have to work on that. that's a cultural problem. that occurs because, for whatever reason, the leadership has not instilled in their employees the fact that we are -- that sexual harassment is against the law and that the leadership wants to stop it from occurring. the leadership in corporations and education, whether it's corporation on the east coast ors on the west coast, fox news, fox network, silicon valley, no matter where it is, the leadership has to make sure that they are valuing each employee, not just those who are in positions of power, but the rank and file employees and those who are not in power.
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and here is savannah guthrie accepting her matrix award yesterday. >> no, i'm not the tough as nails, blazer wearing, '80s working woman who for me growing you up was the stereotypical image of feminism. i am a combo platter of anxiety and calm, confidence, and doubt,
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fear and courage, vulnerability and invincibility. fragileness and solid granite strength. i am all of these things at once. what i believe as a woman in this business, it's good to be tough, but it's even better to be you. >> and thanks to savannah guthrie and thanks to you. chris jansing is up next on msnbc. >> great words from savannah. thank you so much. good afternoon i am chris jansing at msnbc headquarters in new york. right now russia refusal. leaders of the house oversight committee in a standoff with the white house. the administration refusing a request for documents about michael flynn. will that paperwor prove fnn broke the law? first ughter diplomacy. ivanka trump booed in berlin at the g20 women's summit and what she told nbc in her exclusive