our most he important number of the day. that also does it for this hour. i'm steve corn actikornacki. "mtp daily" starts right now. >> if it's wednesday, the big tax plan revealed turns out to be more of a cliffhanger. tonight, president trump's big tax plan. there's a lot we don't know. >> we are moving as quickly as we can. we are working with the house and senate on all the details. >> and how much is real and how much is simply for show in the first 100 days? later, the north korea strategy. >> we want to bring kim jong-un to his senses, not to his knees. >> so what is the next move? senators from both sides of the aisle jones me fresh off the big senate briefing at the white house.

and the democratic evolution. >> i think the democratic party is reimagining itself. >> he jones me on what it means to be a trump era democrat. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. i'm chuck todd in washington. welcome. president trump's tax cuts, the biggest. the reductions, massive. the reform package, the largest in history. never mind the could not flicks in interest, the awkwardment onics or who will pay for it and how does it get through congress? it is to show case something big, the white house rolled out a tax reform plan with gary cohn and steve mnuchin that ends up raising a lot more questions and certainly raises major obstacles. first off, it bears little

resemblance to populist middle class warrior donald trump that he branded himself in the campaign. there are tons of items that wealthy individuals have been lobbying for. the top tax rate, slashld. alternative minute tax repealed. to be fair, it is not all geared just toward the wealthy. there is a one time too. overseas profits could be used the pay for things including this tax cut. there are commitmentes to close loopholes for the wealthy. like much of the plan, the details are fuzzy no, doubt intentionally so today. bottom lien, this appears to be a tax line that they don't want to touch. how does this benefit president's sprawling business interests? >> a lot of what you've presented here today could say the president benefits his own businesses. >> let me comment. what this is about is creating jobs and economic growth. that's what massive tax cuts and

massive tax reform in simplifying the system what we're going to do. >> or for a president who promises to eliminate debt, how do you pay for these tax cuts? >> we're going to eliminate on the personal side everything other than mortgage interest and charitable deductions. >> for what it's worth, gary cohn had said retirement deductions would be protected as well. we've asked for clarification but we have not heard back. that means popular deductions for state and local tafls, student loan interest, tax preparation fees, medical and dental expenses, job expenses will all be eliminated. and resistance against any one of them could threaten this plan. that's how washington works. then there are the details. here's how gary cohn talked

about how this would affect taxes for an average middle class family. >> we'll let you know the specific details at the appropriate moment. we'll give you more details as we have them. >> one could argue that the rollout was supposed to be the moment that you have the details. we haven't even talked about the optics of having them both. a plan that cuts a lot of taxes for the wealthy, it appears to be another dramatic departure for mr. truch's campaign rhetoric. >> do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy? >> do i. i do. including myself. i do. wall street has caused tremendous problems for us. we're going to tax wall street. continuing guys at goldman sachs. they have total control over him just like they have total control over hillary clinton. but they have no control, they have no control over donald

trump. >> all right. that's the they know with trump. there's always something from the campaign that does seem to have him talking circles. i didn't realize i the didn't need my coffee today because i'm talking to cramer. all right, brother. let's start with, when you look at the broad outlines of this plan, do you as an investor say great plan? and do you as somebody -- >> i think the corporate side is a great plan. literally we are not competitive and it would create jobs. the personal side is such a mess. i don't even know where to go with it. all i can really say is it is indeed massive. this was not hyperbole. this was radical. and i think too radical for our country. >> why do you say it is too radical? in some ways, okay, we go from seven tax rates to three but it is still a progressive tax

system. it is not a flat tax. you can't even argue they're trying for a flatter tax. >> the seven to three is fine. it is these deductions. each of these has a constituency that is so powerful that you would be playing whackamole for the next six, ten months. i don't know if you can stop all of them. will we have growth? yes. will it pay for itself? that's the kind of thing that you can answer better than i can. we'll have tons of growth but not versus the trillions that we will not get for the treasury. >> who is the big winner here and who is the big loser? >> i'm going to take it at face value, if you don't make a lot of moan, the politics of guaranteed money. those people will benefit. and i think people who are in these states that do not have high taxes, this is fabulous. i don't want to move to pennsylvania and take that very

long commute. if you could go to a state that has low taxes, what a fabulous windfall. if your corporation pays 35, 36, which there are some. typically retailers, some of the entertainment companies. they win too, and their shareholders will do great. >> you always see story after story. there was a story in the miami times about how the company for florida power and light hasn't paid anyataxes in nine years because of the various deductions. is that era ever going to end? should we assume that this plan would actually end that era where we wouldn't have stories like that? this company paid an effective tax rate of nothing for a decade? >> no. you have to make that it it is like 25 pages. to get different kinds of

depreciation, typically it makes it so you can figure out a way to get around the tax code. with this idea that you have this pass-through where you go from 15% from much higher. we'll be trying to figure out whether we have our own llc. maybe we should form a company together. we can radically cut our zpaxs may be they find out that we did it and maybe they don't. >> i was going to and you, isn't this incentivizing every individual to become an llc? >> he was asking my accountant how i would do. i'll get killed on the deduction. in terms of businesses i have that could be llc, scene me ign. >> after my show, you know where folks are tuning in. their tuning in to you.

>> it's tough to top cramer in getting fired up. but michael steele, is this a die hard republican, you look at what you see today? is this exactly what you've dreamed of sense reagan? >> i know a lot of folks are very, very happy. particularly on the corporate side and even on the individual side. they're going to be populations within various communities will do better than others. i think the real challenge will be on the deduction side. people will have a real problem. and at the end of the day -- >> i have a whole list of them. >> yeah. it's a pretty extensive list. >> these popular tax deductions. it is radical to go down that road. everybody is staying away from that dance. they don't want foth we'll take these deductions away. donald trump is at least putting it on the table.

they wouldn't even talk about the idea that they may change the percentage of your mortgage deduction. they know this could die with a thousand cuts. >> right. i think what is important to understand, what the white house put out today was a one-page, they called it a plan but it was essentially, guidelines to congress for when congress writes tax reform legislation which will be enormously complicated. and house speaker paul ryan has a border adjustment tax. not because he's a huge fan of the measure but he doesn't want to blow a hole in the budget. this doesn't address anything like that. so i think when congress tully takes this up, it will become. much more complicated. these should be thought of as guide lines. not a plan. >> the difficulty for democrats in the past has been, you can sit there and pick at these tax cut plans.

over time you might be able to win individual arguments. but yeah. cut taxes. do you think the politics of this has changed enough where you can win a fight to say that tax cut is too big? >> yeah. i think politics have dramatically changed because we lived through bush era. we had large scale tax cuts and we were promised large scale growth because of it. and i think there were a lot of promises during the campaign. he committed to another traditional republican argument to not have gigantic deficits and debt. and i find it fascinating that blowing this gigantic hole in the debt is not an issue anymore. and these, cutting taxes on corporations, massive tax cuts for the wealthy. that's not where the working class people who voted for donald trump did not think, they

thought they were themselves getting massive tax cuts. they weren't voting for wealthy people around the country. >> the republicans won over the class because they basically treet the working class as aspirational. >> barack obama raised taxes in 2009 and 2012 and he got re-electioned. >> and he promised to cut it from 28 to 25%. and we know the politics of that. for democrats to take the position taxes are not good for anybody. i don't think the american people are looking at it. i think they are looking at me, mine and ours. what's happening in my household, will i benefit. corporations will get what corporations will get. i think the real battle lines will be, to her point, over those proposed points in deductions.

>> it is weird that they may get rid of the tax deduction on health at the same time they start trying to repeal obamacare. that seems to be politics that is totally in contradiction with each other. >> the other they know that's note worthy, i think this is first time that the white house is taking the lead, spearheading a policy initiative. it is the opposite of what happened with health care where they let congress take the lead. i think they saw that doesn't quite work. and i think congress is quite happy to have the white house out fighting for something. and for them, for the republicans in congress to follow one something a little more moderate. >> and we are going to learn, i have to wrap here. who are the real hawks? that's what this tax plan will show. the real ones from the phony ones. all right. you're-stick around.

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relations committee and ranking member. welcome, sir. >> thank you. >> what did you learn and is it anything you didn't know? >> well, i was glad to hear them talk more about diplomacy. that was heartening. but at the same time, it was in the context of a talk about 10:00 military exercises in that region. and my concerns remain the same of what are our communications with the north koreans to make sure we don't get into an accidental war so it doesn't escalate quickly? we were told there isn't a close communication mechanism that exists right now. i think that's a dangerous situation. and then what are the pre conditions for us directly talking to north korea? that's not clear. and that's what the chinese

want. they want to us directly talk to the north koreans to find a diplomatic resolution of the issue. >> in both my conversations with various administration officials over the last ten days and in comments we've heard publicly, there is been a hint or an indication that the chinese promised to do something more. or they've been doing something more that we don't know about. what are they doing now that they haven't done before? >> we had no specifics about what the chinese are doing more except in terms of coal imports from north korea. between january 16 and 2017, there was a 37% increase in trade between china and north korea. increase. so we need more evidence to prove that the chinese reactually tightening their grip on the north korean economy and

i didn't hear that additional evidence, given the 37% increase in trade over the last year. >> you brought up the idea of figuring out, it sounds like you're saying there is to equivalent of a red phone. did you get the idea that they're seeking a way to have bilateral conversations with the north koreans? >> not at this time. they are ruling out communication with the norths korean at this time, waiting for the proper conditions to finally be created. but they're not clear about what those proper conditions are for direct talks. my concern would be during the interim, that an increase in bellicose talk on both sides doesn't result in an accidental military confrontation because of the highly militarized nature of the north korea/south korea

border. >> to bring it up to date on, something like this, but gathering it together, was there an ask by the administration? were they looking for rhetorical patience? did they have an ask? >> i would say that was a good way of describing it. rhetorical patience. i think it is important for the senate to play its traditional role and ask the questions the american people want answered. they clearly don't want there to be an accidental war in korea. and we have to make sure that no action we take doesn't elicit a specifically calibrated response from the north koreans. and right now without direct communications and very limited ways of talking to the north koreans and the paranoia we're

trying to induce in the north korea leadership, we could go over a trip wire without even knowing it. >> the president has made it clear numerous times, if china wants better trade relationship with the united states, its actions in north korea could impact that. is this a serious part of the negotiation with indeising china's involvement, that we're using u.s. trade policy as a carrot? >> they are making it very clear that their conversations with president xi in china is an integral part of developing a strategy on put pressure on north korea. but again, the evidence of what the chinese are doing in order to ratchet up the pressure, to put a chokehold on the north korean economy, is not there. thus far. and that increase of 37% in

trade between the chinese and the north koreans is the best evidence of that. >> all right. senator markey, i'll leave it there. just last hour, my colleague spoke with chris coombs about the meeting. here's what he said. >> this was a very clear-eyed and sober briefing, the national security adviser, the secretary of national defense, president trump stopped by briefly at the outset to thank us for coming to the white house and to frame what he intended for the briefing. but the vast majority of the talking was done by the four gentlemen i just reference asked many nazr got the opportunity on and questions. frankly, the briefing on the threat, the threat is real. and i was encourage that had they're taking it very, very seriously. >> let's go to the other side of

the aisle. he sits on foreign relations and is a member of the senate leadership team. senator, welcome, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> let me start with the basic. did you learn anything that changed your view about the north korean threat? >> i've just gotten back from china, meeting with the leaders. the number two, three and four leaders there. also with leaders in japan. so this is a very consequential meeting i thought today at the white house. it was one where we had the secretary of defense, the secretary of state, the director of national intelligence as well as the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. joining the president and the vice president just to talk about what is happening with north korea's increased capacity and the point that the days of strategic patience have to be over, and that i believe china has exactly that same opinion. when they look at what north korea has the potential to do.

you have to and, can they or can't they, rather than will they or won't they? i think china is very concerned because they now know the capacity of north korea act in a way with a murderous dictator who could hurt china as well as south korea and japan and ultimately the united states. >> how confident are you on intelligence when it comes to knowing the north korean capabilities? where i thought, what the public thought north korea's capabilities were, say, six months ago. you read "the new york times" 24 hours ago and it is a program is either rapidly expanding or we don't know the real state of their program. >> it has been widely reported internationally that they moved from liquid fuel to solid rocket fuel. we know that they have nuclear capacity and their rocketry is improving. what you're right, absolutely about is you look at the

satellite images from outer space at night. north korea is totally dark tochbl place on land that is that way. so the capacity is limited to get information out of that country. when you look at the changes and the mobile launchers that they have, they've gone from wheels so they had to stay on roads to now they have tracks so they can go just about anywhere. their capacity is increasing and has increased significantly and that's intel from around the globe. >> this afternoon your colleague john mccain said you don't rule out a military option or the idea of a preemptive strike. how realistic is that, a preemptive strike? is it something you say but extraordinarily difficult to imagine how that plays out? >> well, i think it is extraordinarily difficult to see how that scenario plays out. i'm looking for a peaceful

resolution. you have diplomacy but also you use sanctions and increasing sanctions. what i've seen in my trip to china and he to specifically in beijing, talking to the leadership there. they seem to be fundamentally reassessing their position toward north korea and they're concerned with the entire korean peninsula having nuclear weapons there. and i think we're seeing unity between the united states and china saying we don't want nuclear weapons there, period. >> we've been sanctioning they will for over a decade. it hasn't changed behavior at all of there are many who say the sanctions ought to be slammed on chinese businessmen. what say you? >> i say you're right about needing to increase sanctions and china is the one that can do that better than any other. not just the chinese business people but truly limiting the supply of oil.

limiting what they buy in materials of coal. so china is reassessing how they deal with north korea. by limiting coal purchases from north korea, it will be a significant sign to me at least that china is very serious about putting the impact on north korea and forcing them to a point of giving up nuclear womewome weapons. that's the tension because they have a dictator who seems rational but always murderer and a thug. >> let me and you, this idea that the president has maintained that china's trade policy with the united states is up for negotiation depending on their actions when it comes to north korea. should that be the carrot we use with china? are you comfortable using

essentially america's economy as one of the carrots to induce china? >> well, a couple things. i got very good reports while in china about the meeting with had occurred in mar-a-lago between the president and president xi. he had just arrived back in china. we did talk about trade. from the standpoint of wyoming, we talked about soda, beef, i think we need to be trading actively. when we export american products, we're exporting american influence. i'm very committed to trade. >> and you're comfortable with having it be a part of north korean discussions? >> north korea has to do with security of the homeland. the number one role of government is to protect the people at home. that has to be number one. >> okay. i think i understand your answers there. thank you for coming on. still ahead, is it high time

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this afternoon i sat down with john hickenlooper. i began by asking where he thinks the trump administration is on whether to enforce federal law in states that have legalized marijuana? >> i think we approached attorney general sessions with that notion, if we're going to make changes, we should do it together and collaborate on this. and i was quick to opponent out as i have to you, i took an oath to uphold the constitution. he is very direct. he didn't beat around the bush. basically he feels strongly that more people smoking more marijuana or doing any kind of drugs is unhealthy for the country and wants to make sure that will be a constant refrain when he speaks whrgs he talks, very concerned about a tendency toward more drug consumption. but he certainly listened. we haven't seen a big spike in

consumption. we haven't seen the increase in teenage consumption or any of these things. and he was directed, he said they have a lot of priorities. at one point he said, well, you haven't seen us cracking down, have you? no. >> so what does that mean? >> i interpreted that that he has his hands full with heroin, methamphetamines, cocaine, other things even more significant. but it doesn't mean that he feels he should be cutting any slack to marijuana. he is very clear. he is anti-drugs in all forms and he won't encourage anyone to start a marijuana business, to think it is a great idea or even safe to do it. he didn't give me any reason to think he would come down. >> but there's still a fog here over the federal government's role in this. and at any moment. how do you operate a business if

you're not sure if the federal government will crack down? >> certainly, one thing that i think a normal business person would take away, if they're going on run their business, they'd better be clean. >> another issue between federal government and state and local, the issue of defining what a sanctuary city is. you were both a mayor, now a governor. the san francisco judge blocked this executive order that was targeting so-called sanctuary cities. you take issue with what does that mean? you take issue with the term. >> yeah. i think there are a number of court cases that limit local municipalities' ability to use local resources to fulfill what are traditionally and legally federal responsibilities. and i think many, very conservative chiefs of police have been very clear on that. so i don't think we were a sanctuary city. it has become a more politically

charged term. if you say you're not a sanctuary city, some people take that to be you the want to have everybody deported which is not the case. >> what's that line? i understand the argument, hey, we're not here to do the federal government's bidding. we're not a federal government law enforcement entity. however, what is the responsibility of local and state to enforce federal law? >> that's a gray area. it is interesting. we talk about marijuana and immigration. in both cases you have laws that the vast majority of people, or many, many people are not paying attention to or skirting. i think what attorney general sessions is trying to figure out, how do we get ourselves back to where people are obeying the law? and i think a reasonable way, we should all be saying, how do we get congress to dhaeng law so we can get back to a system, a fair

system where we monitor immigration? >> you sound like secretary kelly who came on and said he wants congress to fix this gray area. >> if you want to have a system of rules, that's fair, everyone's legitimate expectation, then congress is really where it has to start. may be there's enough turbulence and anxiety right now so maybe will make compromise and get to some sort of legislative compromise that allows us to go forward. with laws at work. >> i want to and you, if you've been paying some attention to this debate end side the democratic party. what is a democrat, is there room for pro-life democrats, i'm sure you're wanting to know, is there room for pro gun democrats in the democratic party. it seemed there was a kerfuffle over whether they should support a pro-life democrat mayor from open landfall where are you on this issue? >> i followed from a distance

and i don't know the details. i am generally speaking a large the tent democrat. i am pretty fiscally conservative, probably more so thanle democratic elected officials. but i don't think that makes me any less of a democrat. nibble social justice, civil rights, protecting the environment. as strongly as almost any democrat. but i'm a big believe that we have to create jobs and be pro business. high ethical standards. there's no reason to me that democrats are excluded from being pro business. and yet there are those who say you're too pro business. you shouldn't be a democrat. >> what do you tell abortion rights community that says look at energy, the resources, folks that fight on the choice issue and then democrats had turn around and support life candidates who muddle that message in. >> i would say that's a rare exception and again, i don't

know the details of the person running for mayor of omaha. but i do think that sometimes you take, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water. sometimes you tolerate a political situation that you're not in complete agreement. sometimes you can be opposed. ultimately it gives your party the strength. and let's say in nebraska, they're trying get, this mayor will help get more house or state senate seats, right? one that will ultimately help, make sure that women do have the right to make their own choices. we have to work through that as a democratic party. we're a big tent. >> all right. we have to leave it there. thanks for visiting and dealing with the state/federal divide that happens. >> had to do one marijuana pun, right? it's colorado. you can see my full interview on meet the press.com. we love elections here.

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tonight i'm obsessed with a statement sean spicer released. not the just any judge. san francisco judge, you liberals know what that means. and yesterday spicer denounced it as egregious overreach by an

unelected judge. think about that. by the way, most judges are unelected but not all of them. president trump cites his election of neil gorsuch as perhaps his biggest accomplishment hooflt elected him? while 22 states do electricity supreme court justices, there's a reason we generally have shied away from the idea of electing judges. it is corrupting even if you don't want to be corrupted. once they go up for election, they have to raise money. make you make deals. maybe you make promises. do you really want to go against someone who contributed $500,000 to a judge. so let's stop this dising of the judges. who will decide in the case then? nine unelected judges. but please, the most corrupting they know in elections lately has been this lower level election of judges. tell me how this is fair to anybody that goes in front of

those judges? we'll be back.

how is the wall going to get paid for if we have members of congress who behind closed doors -- and i know this for a fact -- are laughing about the idea of a wall getting built? how do we convince them to do the right thing on this? >> well, they're going to lose the trust of our base if we don't keep our promises. our base is going to walk away. and they're going to feel like, hey, you said one thing on the campaign trail to get elected and then you didn't act on it. >> that was the chair of the rnc mcdaniel warning republicans about abandoning the president on the border wall promise. time for the lid. panel is back, he wi. michael, this is not the first time this successor of yours, successor, successor, successor, two removed here, has thrown a warning shot at republicans in congress, hey, guys, if you're

going to break your promise on repeal and replace, break your promise on the wall, she's not saying where she sits on these issues. she's looking at it as a pure organizer, you're going to make my job harder. >> it's how we got here 2006, 2008, et cetera, because of the promises that were broken. remember we all were at the closing ceremony for the department of education. >> is that right? >> remember how we were told we were going to shut down the department of education in the '80s, that ceremony went well. with we were going to get a supreme court to reverse roe versus wade. that's the reality for the party and the base they feel they've been lied to and the chairman is absolutely right. if you cannot get repeal and replace done, meaning full repeal, if you cannot come to the table with a comprehensive tax reform package, and if you cannot build the wall, you're going to have a problem in '18 and beyond. >> i don't think that she's totally right, though, in what she said. i actually think that obamacare

and building the wall are related in a certain way in that what republicans are proposing with obamacare is not a literal repeal of obamacare. and they can get away with that. in the same way that i think the trump administration can get away with not literally building a wall on the border. i think if they beef up border enforcement and beef up workplace enforcement and build a physical barrier, you know, in some ways, i think if they take action, you know, the american people feel to some extent there is increased enforcement, i think they can get away with that. >> speaker paul ryan and chief of staff reince priebus hope you're correct. >> yes. >> but that's the thing. i think that's where there is a disconnect. >> i think the challenge on these issues are really just the wedge or squeeze between the 60% and the 40%. it does seem like the base of the republican party really cares about that wall. >> right. >> but the majority of the country isn't into the wall. just like the majority of the country wants to now keep the

affordable care act. at the time it was the most popular, 60%, 65%, keep, have little fixes. now they're making the affordable care act with their replacement much, much worse. >> to me it seems as if you have to pick between those two at midterm election, it's not -- >> it's a choice. you have to go with the base. >> you have to go with the base. otherwise you're not going to pass any of this. >> exactly. >> very much as we saw in 2010 and before, so, yeah, it's a problem. >> i still think, you know, the frustration among conservatives, republicans, the base has not been that there is not a literal wall on the border. it's been that there's no trust that immigration laws will be enforced before there is reform. so i do think if there is a sense these laws are beginning to be enforced and that there is some gesture towards that from the attorney general and from the trump administration, and there is some rebuilt trust there, that will go a long way. >> before i let you go, is there any part of this bernie sanders

tour that went well for the democratic party? >> no comment. you know, i think -- i think it's good that it happened now and not a year from now. there is that optimistic sense of it. >> this was just not well thought out? >> well, no, look, at the end of the day, i hope that this was a way for bernie sanders to bring some of his people into the party and i hope that that's where it lands up. >> all right, thank you for that. as usual, honest nera. you don't ever get it -- no pulling punches there. thank you all. after the break, a grand slam in the bush, romney rivalry. stay tuned. okay, let's go. find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. that's amazing!

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