the discretion for how they enforce it who will decide how they enforce it, what is true about this amendment is that it affected very liberal churches and very conservative ones. is it a free for all, or will it be particular ways that this is enforced. what this was today, i think, is not what religious conservatives were really hoping for. >> we will see if it is a down payment on what will happen and what details are. thank you so much for watching this with us, and staying with us to give us your side of the story. a lot of concerns even among the religious community as many on right are celebrating this. that does it for me, we're going to hand it over to andrea

mitchell who has just been at the white house. >> right now, second opinion, how republicans taking another whack at obamacare today. can they find a cure? i think you will see a vote today on the floor. >> church and state. signing their latest executive order promising change to their evangelical supporters. >> we will not allow people of faith to be targeted, bullied, or silenced any more. adding this big announcement. >> my first foreign trip as president of the united states will be to saudi arabia, then i israel, and then to a place my cardinals love very much, rome.

these visits will take place ahead of the nato g 7 meetings and will begin with a truly historic gathering in saudi araise ya with leaders from all across the muslim world. >> and the kremlin connection. the fbi warning russians are still meddling in u.s. politics today. >> what do you feel is the current threat. >> my view of the greatest threat of any nation on earth, given their intention and capability. >> good day, everyone. i'm ahead of what could be the biggest legislative victory for the trump administration.

the big question from critics, do republican lawmakers even know what is in it. joining me now from the rose garden, and michael steele with me welcome the former press secretary, and speaker ryan during his vice presidential run. and nbc news medical correspondent dr. john torres. first you to, kelly, at the white house. they're looking forward to a victory in the house. they would not know if they have the votes as well as anybody. what is the real long-term gain from their perspective. >> this is a day to chuck alk u win. they think there is a cushion on the vote count. people that are faith based and

politically active. michelle bachman. i was told that the president and the house speaker spoke about the vote. we know this is just an incremental piece in trying to change or repeal the health care law. after a very high profile failure in march to get a bill passed, the changes that have happened with president trump and vice president pence to talk tonight and try to bring them together. going home for members that were able to talk to people in their home communities was able to bring together the most conservative members and enough of the moderates here they're predicting a victory today with that hopeful tone, but we know it is a long way to go.

we expect the president to claim some victory with his own personal involvement. >> of course then they could blame the senate if it falls apart there. but why ask house republicans to walk the plank and then face the voters in 2018 for something that may not pass congress and get to the president's desk. >> yeah, as an extension from the white house. there is an adage around here for quite some time. a win is a win. let me tell you the process has been herky jerky. in the last three days, much of it happened behind closed doors. they brought up vice president pence, a former member of the house of representatives himself. he was here monday, tuesday,

wednesday. president trump hosting members at the white house. republican leaders in the white house are putting together a very brave face. this very morning with the rank and file, it is still a touch and go affair. the medical community, the patient community, and the process. the republicans said read the bill, it was only online for public consumption last night at 8:00. >> here with me is michael steele, we heard boehner and ryan saying why are you passing

it. pelosi's soundbite that said we can read it later. why the hurry? >> this is a huge win. it is something we have been working on since the bill passed in the first place. this plan is based on the better way agenda that house republicans put together last year and ran on in november, and it has been broadly known for quite some times. the process has been a great process of conservatives say tlg is a better way. some moderates saying it is great. b but. >> i want to bring in dr. torres. while they say this last amendment, this fix from congressman upton and others

protects people with pre-existing conditions, it still let's states opt out. it puts them in a high risk pool, premiums will be active. women's groups that care about contraception and other impacts. they have everything to do with women's health, they are -- >> yeah, a big question is what does it mean that they are covering precan existing conditions. ensure insurers were not allowed to charge different things for people who had pre-existing conditions or not. they're putting $8 billion in there to pickup, but they're saying it is a band aid

approach. pre-existing conditions exist in one of two americans. even people with work sponsors insurance plans, 50% of them, one in two, have a pre-existing condition as well. a large number of people with preexisting conditions. they're saying benefits may not be covered in some states. if that happens, some of the basic things that we take for granted, the basic procedures that can keep us healthy might not be available. and their big concern is making sure that patients are being taken care of. they're not sure this will help. >> and lindsey graham just tweeted out a bill just provided

yesterday. not costed out yet. three hours of final debate should be views with caution. >> i think that senator graham should be very excited because the senate is about to have the ability to work there on the final legislative product. >> michael steele, thank you so much. dr. john torres, and mike and kelly. ron wyden is the top senate on the committee that has to deal with this as well. i want to talk to you first about this health care bill. >> the senate is not going to turn back the clock and go back to the days when health care was for the healthy and wealthy. the reality is in a no matter how much money they have promised in the house, that is what the house bill does. when you green light

discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions, it dramatically changes american health care for the worse. and millions of people will be walking on an economic tight rope. they won't be able to pay cancer bills, and they will not regard that has an idea that even has a pulse. >> the president just anounls it'd in the rose garden opinion and interesting his first foreign trip will be to an arab summit. now all of this before he goes to the g7 and to nato. the white house officials say that the saiudis reached out, despite all of the negative

commentary about the muslim ban and other things, the arab leaders in the gulf states do see president trump as an alternative, a better alternative to president obama. someone they can lane on and work with to isolate iron into that seems to be the strategy. they want to isolate iran. they want to stop the flows of money to isis and other terror groups, and work on a larger strategy with all of these arab leaders backing it in a context where you have a fairly weak l palestinian leadership. >> i'm in favor of people talking, but i already heard this morning the president say "well, this probably is not as complicated as people have thought." i can tell you a lot of thoughtful people on both sides of the aisle have spent time on the middle east. i need to know a little more

about what he is talking about because i think based on his initial comments it is a bigger lift than he thinks. >> there is a lot of talk about jim comey's talk. covering up the reopening of the clinton e-mail investigation would have been catastrophic. he felt he had to disclose it even though it was 11 days before the election even though they had not sought the warrant. what is wrong with his argument? >> my sense is despite the verbal contortions that we heard from the fbidirect sere thor is there is a double standard. we had a real challenge at the

beginning of the year when i asked about public source information. i said look, we're getting all of these comments, and he said i could not possibly comment on anything that. eneveryone remembers what happened 11 days before the lx. >> and you been a big advocate for the rights of the community. they moderated the 702 program. if someone is mentioned or references that u.s. citizen e-mails can be collected and retrieved later if necessary. so as i understand this, it is still, if there is an e-mail or a call to that person, or from that person, that would still be collected but not the just

mention of a person. does that satisfy you? >> no, i want to make sure no one tries to roll back what was done last friday. ly introduce legislation to codify it. the reality is that we're trying to show that security and liberty are not mutually exclusive. we can have policies that have both. james comey has been interesting in weakening encryption. we want to make sure that congress can see how many law abiding americans are swept up

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greatest of any threat on earth given their capability. >> saying that the russians are still interfering with our election and that he is defending his decision to reopen the investigation into hillary clinton 11 days before the election. he said he had no choice. it gave him a mile sense of nausea. what was your reaction after watching comey's explanation. >>. >> he didn't have a answer to the simplest of questions. but he refuses to expose

information so why treat one dan case one but and the other candidate the other way. that is a question the american people deserve as an to. >> and he did reveal a little more about why they were why they were play a little bit of that as well. >> somehow her e-mails are being forwarded to anthony weiner, including classified information by her assistant, and they found thousands of new e-mails and they said we found a lot of new stuff, we did not find anything that changes our view of her intent. so we're in the same place we were in july, it has not changed our view. i said okay, if that's where you

are, we have to tell congress that we're done. it makes me mildly nauseous to think that we may have had an impact on the election, but it doesn't change the decision. >> j. >> when he said we have to inform congress that we're done if. >> yeah, he said it took them only a week to come back and say there is nothing new here, there is nothing that changes our result. they allow that story to dominate the closing week of the campaign, and still we don't have a -- he was talking about it with hillary clinton. he was withholding information on the investigation into donald trump. why would he talk about one another when i think we have not heard an answer to that question. >> at the same time hillary clinton focusing on wikileaks,

russia, and it all had an impact. we can't say how determined it was, but not having done to wibz, not campaigning tooner in mississippi. >> i think that is a mississippi reading by what she said in the interview, she started by taking personal responsibility. all of us that worked on the campaign feel that we have to take responsibility for the outcome, but she went on to say there was factors beyond her control, and it is just a mathematical fact that the comey letter 11 days before the election changed votes by between 1% and 4%. hillary lost pennsylvania, wisconsin, all by less less than 1%. it doesn't change the fact that

we made mistakes in the campaign. >> i want to ask you about the announcement today that the president is going to start in saudi arab ya, and they say it is a restart from what they kr failed obama policy. reengaging with the world and being better connected to the arab leaders and potentially having a path way to middle east peace and bigger resolutions. and it is a policy of the iranian engagement that you were directly involved in. >>. >> i think what they will discover is that the way that president obama was conducting his policy, they continue a very

similar strategy. i think when they find negotiations, they will run into the same obstacles. but it wasn't for a lack of trying. they made significant efforts to try to bring about a peace deal. words are important, but the real test of whether or not the president is serious is if he will look to our saady friends in the eye and say you need to work with us to cut that off. >> jake sullivan, thank you for being here. >> coming up, women's health advocates ramping up to fight the trump administration on several fronts. stay with us.

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the vote on that bill is slated for the next richards. here is cecil, we're here on the rooft rooftop. this vote is likely to pass the house and it does defund planned parenthood which means all of your clinics around the country for women's health. >>. >> it is a devastating day for the millions of women that come for cancer screenings and for birth control. women will lose access to a lot of benefits they have had in the last eight years. it will create chaos for women in america that depend on us for affordable health care and we will fight to make sure the bill never passes the united states senate. >> what weapons do you have though, it's a republican senate, a republican house, and

while lindsey graham indicated there is questions, they want to see the cbo score, they may be more concerned about the budget impact of this rather than the health benefits you're so concerned habit. >> there are republicans in the united states senate already. they expressed grave concerns about the impact of women losing access to health care. and there are many senators that i spoke to that say this bill that is passing the house today will never pass the united states senate. but what we're seeing, too around the country is that women are speaking out in record numbers. they're going to town hall meetings, calling members of congress saying they will not go back to a time of reproductive health in america. and i think it is incredibly important that folks in the

united states in the vote. >> the president signed an executive order and one of the provisions in that order does follow up on a supreme court ruling in the hobby lobby case and the sisters of the poor cases, and restricts contraceptive advice own oththe aspects of women and men's health. >> it is incredible that this is a day that an administration that has taken aim at women's health care from dwomen on day one. it is signing whether or not you can get birth control coverage from your boss as an employee. it is crazy, we're so proud of planned parentfood. we're at a record low. we're at a 30 year low for unintended pregnancy among

women. what the president is doing is to make birth control less available to women takes us backwards. i hope that women are certainly not going to go there. we have seen it across the country. women will engaged and speaking up and folks need to listen. >> cecil richards on capitol hill. meanwhile today, president obama weighed in on the french election in a video statement that the former president formally endorsed emanuel macron over marine le pen. >> i have admired the campaign that macron has run. he put together an important role for what need around the world. because of how important it is, i want you to know that i'm supporting emanuel macron to

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you made the point that you had other choices. you could have said nothing, and you could have review thad you were investigating the collusion between the trump campaign and the russian hacking. >> that's right, and there wasn't a lot said. we have received reports since but not then. i think the point was this is a classic october surprise. i don't think he had to do it. he could have started the investigation. he could have probably started it earlier, and gotten a look at what was in the commuteputer, ae would have found there was nothing new. there was not o 30,000, there was 3,000. 12 were classified and they were all part of the prior case. so it was a classic pocket

surprise. and i hold director comey to a very high standard, and most of the time he meets it, but this, in my view, he did not. >> what did you think of the choice he would face left him with a mild case of nausea, the fact that he might be impacting the election. >> i thought there would be a better expression for his feelings, but i guess mild case is what it was. there was a lot of rumors that circulated around that. that there was in the fbi itself. and that he was getting some very strong commentary, particularly out of new york.

i do know that 11 days before the campaign, and when i spoke to secretary clinton about this, she was convinced it did affect it. they had polls, and certain areas dropped where people were looking at her, thinking about it, maybe not as committed as in other places and the vote dropped. it is what it was. but it is also hard because i think when you respect somebody like i comey, and do, it is hard when something like this happens. and a whole presidential election changed when there was no big announcement. russian hacking into the political systems and they are releasing e-mails that would damage possibly secretary

clinton. so he chose one, but he didn't choose the other. and that also concerned me. >> he also did say that russia is now the greatest through of any nation on earth in terms of their ability and their hacking, do you agree with that? >> i agree with it, particularly with respect to the hacking. it is diabolical. it can be comprehensive. they are very good at it, and they use it in a very moconcerng way. i believe this is something that president trump may be able to deal with president trump well on. he is basic. he will say exactly what he thinks and i think coming from trump, who many thought would be

an ally for pew tin, this might be helpful. >>. >> i was at a are briefing there, and they said he is deliberately going there first, and aseptember following through on israel and going on to rome, the vatican, and the pope, to try to a broad strategy, if you will, to try to get them through middle east piece. >> i think that is a good agenda. i think the saa saudis have bee

close to the united states, and i think will will try to soofl a huge schism that exists, and i think we have a foreign pin ster in saudi arabia. he speaks well, he is very smart, and he might be very helpful in being able to narrow the breach instead of iron it. i think that is the big dapger in the middle east, that we end up where this ends with a huge breech that just continues civil war in an even more vicious way if that is possible. >> i want to ask you one question on domestic issues. the house in the next hour is probably going to do final pa passage on health care. there is a lot of objections to

the way it handles reconditions. is that what you think is claiming the senate. >> i think senators will want to see the score unlike the house. there is no score. we don't fwhoe specificity what the costs are. we put a billion in, which i understand is the only change to try to reconcile leaving out pre-existing conditions, but that won't do it i'm told. so the number of people that will be disgorged is still high and the cost is enormous. we will still end up with 24 million people. that is not a measure that should be passed by the united states senate.

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and on the house floor, the debate is still going on. they are getting ready next hour to repeal and replace obamacare. the first step for a major legislative victory for president trump. joining me ashley parker, "washington post" white house reporter and sam stein senior politics editor and msnbc contributor. well, first, ashley, why now go ahead with this, the house members are voting for something that may well not pass the senate and it's going to be, you know, hanging around their necks in the mid-terms and forever. >> it almost certainly will not pass the senate without some significant modifications. but i think the reason why now is, they're hoping third time is the charm. and at this point the trump white house desperately wants a win on this. house republicans realize after seven years of promising to repeal and replace obamacare and voting on it they need to do

something and i think there is an effort to at least just get it out of the house, prove they can do something and at least shunt the blame to the senate for a brief period. >> but after all of the campaign adds that had nancy pelosi saying we'll read it later or whatever the quote was when they passed obamacare. >> yeah. >> once we pass it we'll find out what's in it they don't know what's in it. i heard an interview with a member saying my staff read it. >> new language so they month know that because it's been barely posted. a cbo score has not been made. this is a messy process and makes the process for passage of the affordable care act look open and transparent an it kind of was. it was a 17-month process, multiple hearings and cbo scores and so forth. but to that point it all begs the question why now. why the rush. and the answer is, is that they are petrified of going back to their districts yet again saying listen, you gave us both

chambers of congress, you gave us the presidency, after seven years of promising to repeal and replace this bill they couldn't do that. they need to pass something to at least show a modicum of progress. might not go anywhere but they have to show progress. >> women's groups may rally around this. remains to be seen, only hearing from the opponents right now, we're hearing, of course, from planned parenthood which gets defunded but hearing from health care advocates who say this will impact not just on people with preexisting conditions who may end up being placed in high risk pools and states can still opt out but from a lot of people concerned about women's health clinics. >> absolutely. it's an open -- you know, the lack of a congressional budget office score is sort of just an emblem of all the unknowns about the bill and we don't know how those high risk pools will work, if the $8 billion added over five years will be enough to help some of these individuals.

and i do think it is a risky strategy, just as for the democrats to pass something and once you sort of own that vote and legislation find out oh, this was an unintended effect i didn't realize what happened. >> but it is remarkable. patient groups, hospitals, doctors, aarp, all of them against this bill. you rarely see such a collective force of lobbying against the legislation that looks like it's bound to pass and we know how high risk pools work. they work poorly. $8 billion to high risk pools is nothing compared to the $880 billion taken out of medicaid. like less than 1% of the money taken out of medicaid going back to high risk pools. i put out a tweet asking for what was a good substantive supporting article on the merits of the legislation from a conservative there are none. very few enjoy this policy. this is about a political win. >> it will save money? >> yes. it will save money and that will be plowed into tax reform. >> well, which i prefer not to

call tax reform, actually. >> it's a tax cut. >> it's a tax cut. >> correct. yes. >> there are impacts because the states that opt out are probably the states that decide that they are less concerned about surveying the -- serving the under insured communities. >> those are states that already those communities are already high risk and this will potentially put them at more risk. you hear of these states where there's no abortion clinics anymore, or it's already difficult to get access to those sorts of issues and so i think those people, many trump voters, may be disproportionately hurt by the bill if it becomes law. >> we look at west virginia and other states like that. >> kentucky. >> kentucky. >> iowa is a great example of this. iowa has one insurer in the private market and starting to leave because the market is poor, a lot of rural communities, not many customers, one customer who has $1 million a month in premiums he has to get covered. that's a state you can see a governor saying listen this isn't working for us, we need to

waves these conditions that force us to cover people with preexisting conditions and so on and so forth and then you end up in a system you're not covering these, premiums could go up but people with preexisting conditions wouldn't get the coverage they need. a state like that is where you see something. >> is the debate too much in the weeds for consumers and voters to grasp the impact because the advertising and messages from supporters is we're taking care -- >> i don't think so. i think in the end it's simple. people like -- even though they complain a lot about health care systems they generally do like the health care they receive and they feel threatened by the idea that it could be compromised or taken away. that's why when you passed obamacare it was difficult for democrats. hard to sell, hard to explain the benefits because people just felt you were messing with their system. now it's in the inverse. people say i like what i have, i like the ability to know that if i have something happen to me i can get coverage and you're going to xroe place that. that's a tough political sell

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and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on-line on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports. craig melvin is up next on msnbc. >> good to see you. good afternoon to you as well. craig melvin at msnbc headquarters in new york.

we start with that breaking news coming out of the nation's capital at this hour. any moment now, house republicans hoping the third time might be the charm. they are engaged in a series of debates right now which they hope will lead to a successful vote on health care reform. possibly later this hour we are being told. republicans today sounding convinced they finally have the votes at least to get it out of the house. >> faubl. >> absolutely? >> yes. >> we do have the votes. there's a lot of un nam nimty today. >> the line of the day was, you know, out of braveheart. freedom! it's good stuff. >> are you concerned about the score? >> no. we've actually had individual studies to look at it so we feel real good it's going to lower premiums. >> my only concern is the u.s. senate. >> what changes concern you most? >> moving away from a 218 vote that was t