democrats say this will be the signature issue they run against republicans on ten years later in 2018. 2602. our most important number of the day. that will do it for this hour. our coverage continues on a very major day in politics. "mtp daily" starts right now. >> if it is thursday, a short material win but a long term victory? tonight, the republican house passes its repeal and replace obamacare bill. and president trump takes a victory lap. >> we won and we'll finish it off. >> what will it take to get it across the senate line? >> it is a big day but just one step in this process. >> we'll talk to two republican congressmen with different takes on whether this is a good bill or good politics. plus, they taught them by

singing about it. >> they all seemed to burst into song. >> this as the bill heads to the gauntlet of the senate. we'll hear from democrat chris kuhns. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. >> good evening. welcome to mtp daly. for all the talk about getting thins done, republicans in the house have handed him his first legislative w. >> make no mistake, this is a repeal and a replace of obamacare. make no mistake about it. make no mistake. >> and for a president in desperate need of a victory, the white house was swift to claim the win. >> we've really been doing this for eight weeks, if you think about it.

this is a real plan. this is a great plan. there is a lot of talent standing behind me. an unbelievable amount of talent. that i can tell you. and coming from a different world, and only being a politician for a short period of time, how am i doing? am i doing okay? i'm president. hey! >> the president just wrapped up a celebration with house republicans at the white house. he is now on his way to new york for an event this evening. we can't deny that this is an achievement for the white house. that said, this version of the bill is far from becoming law. it now faces an up-hill battle in the senate where moderate republicans and all democrats expected to oppose it. democrats are clearly looking to use this against republicans in the 2018 mid terms. >> they have this vote tattooed on them. this is a scar they will carry. so it isn't, it is their vote.

it is not the senate vote. it is their vote they taking. >> and take a listen to house democrats during the vote. [ singing ] >> they're singing, hey, hey, hey, goodbye. they think this gives their party a leg up with voters because the bill aims to do away with some of the most popular elements of obamacare. in a move to bring on more conservative members, the bill passed gives states the topgs allow insurers not to cover what's known as essential health benefits like maternity care, mental health care and hospital stays. it now allows sicker people and people with pre-existing conditions more. that upset moderates. so in an effort to bring them on board, this provides over $8 billion over five years to people with pre-existing conditions to help them afford

care. but despite all that maneuvering, the celebrations are pre mature. yes, the president and the republicans scored a win but it may be a short term victory. this bill is nowhere near a law and it could conceivably cost some republican members their seats in 2018. let's bring it all in. mike viqueira and mark murray. mike, walk us through it. lot of last-minute discussion. >> as of last week, i think any long time people in congress, if they saw how this was heading, people even on monday when they lost two key members on the republican side. they thought look, this won't happen for they will. it is rare to see it come back as it did. when they gave up the pros expects or the efforts to put it on the floor of the house. it is rare to see something revived like this.

i can't remember when it has actually happened. over the course of the last couple days, and yes, due to much of the pressure and effort on the part, not tonight gop leaders and he the whip team and steve and patrick mchenry, but also the white house. vice president pence coming up monday, tuesday and wednesday, twisting arms behind closed doors. i think you put your finger on it. is this a long term momentum builder toward ultimate passage of the are coveted goal since 2010? if not a full out repeal of obamacare? certainly an alteration of their liking. or is it a short term sugar high? now the hard part comes after all the back and forth. the to'ing and the fro'ing. we have a list of senators expressing reservations and saying it will have to come one a different product. rand paul, ron portman.

he was just reelected. john cornyn says we're going to take our time and it is going to take a while. so whether that momentum sort of peters out by the time senate gets to it, that's a key question. >> you're saying a lot when you say now is the hard part. it will be very hard as you lay it out to get to the senate. so let's talk about 2018. mark murray, what is 2018 going to be like for the republicans? how much risk are they taking? >> it would always be a pretty tough environment when your party drols white house and all of government. you are going to have a very hard mid-term cycle. and what we are seeing right now with this vote today, one, make sure that health care is going to be may be the dominant political domestic issue for the 2018 mid-term. but also it force someday republicans to take some very tough votes that otherwise, they might not have. when you look, of the 23

republican who's sit in congressional districts that hillary clinton carried in 2016, 14 of them actually voted for today's legislation. and then among 35 house republicans who are in competitive districts by the cook political report, 25 of those 35 ended up voting yes. so while some house republicans were able to probably inoculate themselves and say this is not good for my district. i think this is problematic for me. we saw a lot of tough votes today that you can see easily how democrats will try to score points and political ads and other messaging in the year and a half before the mid terms. >> and no doubt they'll use the images we saw today of republicans celebrating this in the rose garden, at the white house, taking buss to get to the white house. they're celebrating the passage of a bill in the house. this is a bill not signed into law yet. what are the political ramifications potentially, mike

viqueira, of celebrating so soon? >> it is the conventional wisdom has congealed in the last few hours that it was an odd event and out of place. i'm going to have to disagree a little bit. i think they're trying create this perception. i don't know if people will hold that against them. certainly the republican base in their hearts and minds, probably right next to them celebrating. the question now isn't necessarily the republican base. it is those vulnerable members the swing districts now helping republicans. i don't see it as the big sort of loser that a lot of people think it is. i think we've been underestimating this from president trump for quite a while now and i'm not necessarily on board with the whole idea that it was that out of place. >> you have a good point. a couple days ago everybody was talking about how this bill would not go anywhere. that it was doa. republicans were hemorrhaging support and today they can pass it in the house at the very least. on capitol hill, thank you very much. mark murray in our washington

newsroom. thank you. >> now let's go to the panel. amy holmes, political analyst, and the former speech writer for bill frist. elise jordan, political analyst and former adviser for senator rand paul's campaign, and msnbc contributor and national reporter for the "new york times." so what do you think about this? going out and celebrating before this law. >> it is great politics. they're just trying message the narrative that we repealed obamacare and it doesn't matter what is in it. we repealed it. that was our promise. we did it. we're going forward. they haven't yet repealed it. they're trying on make he have one think they did. let's see how they fair with the smoke and mirrors of this being the big repeal does play with the public. >> it is also that they were dealing with their progress. let's make this the political

environment. they had obamacare reform effort that was a debacle a couple months ago. then they went through a budget process that made a lot of conservatives and base voters extremely unhappy. they needed this political win. i understand going to the rose garden saying we delivered on our promises and that's what house speaker paul ryan risked today. >> do they run the risk that this is ball sxolt not a bill will make lives better? >> i don't think so. i've been throughout in ohio and all these places where supporters are really wanting something, a big win, wanting to feel that the person who is the successful businessman. i think this will resonate. they feel and i would imagine a lot of people feel like this is a big step forward. that people are saying wouldn't happen and it really helps that people are saying for the last week that that won't be revived. they'll never get the votes. it goes into the narrative that the media are against donald trump.

>> "the new york times," using the score and a number of medical associations who have analyzed this, graded and it commented on it. the winners are upper middle class people, two middle class people without pre-existing conditions, large employers, high income earners. the losers, people wh pre-existing conditions, sick people. hospitals as well. this i problematic down the line if it turns out that the coverage is not quite what it was promised to be. >> right. and there is danger of overpromising. i can tell you the reports that the high water number for actual repeal of obamacare was at 40% and steadily going down. the majority of likely voters, they wanted piece male reform efforts. they didn't want the dramatic. when you're looking at analysis of winners and losers you just had on your report that thement

on out of these very elaborate health care plans, that somehow it would be unpopular because they are unpopular items in the plans. they're only unpopular if you use them and they become more unpopular. the proof is in the premiums. >> i chafe at this saying winners and losers. this is health care and people who are, need health care because of pre-existing conditions. >> it is not clear but it is not clear that it does. why did they not wait for a cbo score on this? >> they didn't really have time to read the bills. i worked on the campaign and that was a huge applause line. in congress, they actually read the bills. >> isn't there like a three-day waiting period? they ce more about the political win than the policy. their really counting on the

senate to take the load here and to take this hot potato that they're passing along and to reform the bill and make it into something. >> so the freedom caucus can say we did what we said we would do. we signed because we have this upton amendment nouflt they go in and slash and burn this thing. maybe even starts a new which there's some talk about that. is the house inoculating itself? >> they can blame the senate now. they can say we actually took action. and then those who stood firm and said they wouldn't support the legislation can say, hey, i didn't go form at the end of the day. >> any chance rand paul signs on to any form of health insurance reform? >> no. not in this form. >> when you talk about health care, it is a very personal thing that people will understand very quickly. so i think republicans run the risk, it really becomes very clear that people with

pre-existing conditions somehow cannot afford this health care or it really hurts women. or it really hurts low income people. "the new york times" thinks it will do. that runs the risk of alienating the people who put donald trump in power. the question is whether or not they'll feel it before 2018 or 2020. it might be a while before ty realize what they voted for will make their lives harder. >> the previous administration before the election said premiums will go down 25% this 39 states. one in five consumers of plans outside the workplace. they'll only have one insurer to pick from. we saw aetna just dropped virginia. so republicans are trying on address those problems. >> and it puts red state senators in a bind. >> we had senator joe manchin on the program the other day. he called president trump and he said voters won't remember who gave them health care.

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today in new york city, protesters are rallying against president trump. you can see the president is about to board marine -- he's leaving marine one to go to his home town since taking office. there he is. emerging from marine one. this happens to be on the same day his health care bill clears e house. the vote further stirring emotions of many protesters.

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when obamacare was first being created, there was a lot of talk about not being transparent enough. take a listen to what your leadership said back then. >> i don't think we should pass bills that we haven't read, we don't know what they cost. >> we're left with party line votes in the middle of the night a couple of sweetheart deals to get it over the finish line, in a truly outraged public. >> and look how this bill was written. can you say it was done openly with transparency and accountability? without back room deals struck behind closed doors? hidden from the people? hell no, you can't. have you read the bill? have you read reconciliation bill? have you read the managers amendment? hell, no, you haven't. >> you can just change their

names and i feel like i can hear exactly the same criticism coming from democrats today. what is the deal, congressman? there's no cbo score on this bill. this was a party line vote. a slim majority at that. sweetheart deals. we had the upton amendment, $8 billion yesterday after upton met with president trump. 50% of americans are not confident in this bill it sound just like what your republican leadership said back then. >> i couldn't disagree more. we've been on this bill for over six years. ever since obamacare came in, we've been passing bills and marking up bills that then came together into what we now call the american health care act. but this was not done over a two-week or a three-week period. this has been six years of hard work as we knew obamacare would fail and failing and fail it

has. wave cbo score saving well over $100 billion. sure, there were a couple of tweaks at the end. we'll get a final score that may knock a couple percent off that but we're comfortable that we know there's huge savings. by the time the senate is working with this, we will have the final score. so savings over $100 billion. guaranteed cost savings when it comes to premiums of 10%. a bill we've been working on for years. so this is so very different than what happened with obamacare. and of course we had a party line vote. there's no wayer nancy pelosi would let a single member of the conference vote to repeal obamacare. >> wasn't just a party line vote. there were a number of republicans. 20 republicans. >> we had people in% of our conference on board. 93%. and we're talking about states like new jersey, california and pennsylvania which are entirely different than mississippi,

louisiana, florida and texas. >> do those republican voters not matter in those states? >> everyone matters. all politics are local. we did have 20 members, for one reason or another. some from the freedom caucus, some from the tuesday group, some not in either group. but we have people 93% come tog. it was a campaign promise the president made and everyone of us made to replace the failure of obamacare. today, 94 out of 99 counties in iowa don't have an insurance carrier at all. >> part of reason is because of the lack of confidence in obamacare because of the way that republicans have gone about gutting regulation and also saying that they would repeal it. part of reason there's only one health care provider or no health care providers is because of the insurance markets and insurance providers pulling out because of the rhetoric they were putting forth and what they

were doing. >> you can't say that. they pulled out when they thought hillary clinton was going to be elected. this didn't happen in the last four months. you go back a year ago and you look at what happened in arizona. with president obama and the expectation that hillary clinton would be elected and they were down to one, only one insurance carrier in arizona. and even yet later during the year. others pulled out. so no, this was the abject failure of obamacare. it has nothing to do, and you can't say that they pulled out because a few months back, we elected president trump. you can't connect those. >> what do you say to the aarp, the american medical association, to the american hospital association, all of which have said that this bill is not one that is going to protect those with pre-existing conditions, it is not going to protect the elderly. they're concerned about it. it won't protect the poor. are they wrong in their assessment? >> they're absolutely wrong. clearly they have not read the

bill. >> have you given them time to read the bill? >> well, sure. our bill has been out there for over a month. they're very small amendments. when you look at pre-existing conditions, those folks are covered. they will continue to be covered. and again, this is an exaggeration that is not based on any reality that i'm living in. first of all, anyone who has insuranceill continue to have insurance. >> cgressman -- >> so those who may have a pre-existing condition under obamacare continue to have that coverage. >> i have yet to see a single piece of analysis that says the $8 billion upton amendment is enough to make sure those with pre-existing conditions in states that do choose to get a waiver and are amoved for a waiver, that that is enough to

cover all the patients might have pre-existing conditions. have you seen different analysis than i have? >> certainly do. let's talk about what it is. these are not people that are currently insured who have catastrophic health conditions like cancer or health insurance. what are we talking about? the individual and challenge which is only 7% of america. it would have to be a state thatment onned into the waiver. we're not sure any states willment on in and if they didment on in for the waiver, this would have to be a person who currently is not insured. someone who is subsequently diagnosed with cancer or some other condition. and then what we have is money to backstop the extra cost that could be charged in a waiver state for a maximum of 12 months. that's the most it can be charged. anyone who has actually read the bill, to protect the individuals who don't have insurance.

they live in a state where they might have a waiver and then uld have to pay a higher cost for up to 12 months. they would not be paying it. it would come out of that pool so we have absolutely protected those that subsequently would be diagnosed with a pre-existing condition. those that currently have it are already insured. >> can you 100% guarantee that? yes or no? >> yes. >> thank you. always good to be with you. house republican leaders are making some big republicans today about what this health care bill will do. >> that's what it is all about. it makes health care more affordable. it takes care of our most vulnerable. and it shifts power from washington back to the states. >> we talked a lot about protecting people with pre-existing conditions in the context of this bill. and there are so many things. multiple, multiple layers in our bill that we passed today that not only protect people with pre-existing conditions, but

actually focus real targeted money on lowering premiums for families with pre-existing conditions. >> we're going to unshackle, build an economy, let people have greater choice. >> joining me now, hillary clinton won narrowly in his district and he voted against the bill today. congressman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> so your colleagues and republican leadership, they say that absolutely pre-existing conditions will be covered. you just heard congressman collins garon tight. it won't make the premiums rise. do you agree with that assessment? >> chris collins is a close friend of mine and certainly we all want to make sure that nobody is denialed coverage based on a pre-existing condition. i prefd the original language and be the language voted today on the floor of the house. >> what was that original language? >> the original language said

there would be no denial of coverage based upon a pre-existing condition. it did not modify in any way the original language in the legislation that was passed in 2010. >> so when your republican colleagues come out and they guarantee that, they say the high risk pools will work, that $8 billion is enough to cover pre-existing conditions, you don't agree with that. do you go to them and do you say, listen, i'm really concerned about this. i am concerned about the promise we made to voters, that we'll make sure they stay covered. how can there be such a disagreement within your own caucus? >> i mope the senate will address this issue and i'm sure that the bill as it proceeds through senate will be different from the current version that passed the house today. i also would urge our democratic colleagues to come to the table to work with us. other so far only one party has

done it. i think there's a responsibility to will come together in a bipartisan capacity to improve the system. as you know, the exchanges are not doing well in many parts of the united states nflt do you believe this legislation was too rushed? >> i think that we should have awaited a cbo score. >> republicans say they got two cbo scores on this. i just got a message from a staffer and a republican for one of the congressmen saying no, they had two cbo scores on this. did they have two adequate scores on this legislation? >> the original score that i read indicated that there would be many challenges with the legislation and that was the principle reason that i didn't favor it. i would like to see up to date cbo score and i hope as this moves in the senate, proceeds to the other side of the capital, that there can be an update. >> so in 2010 you voted a bunch of times repeal obamacare. and parts of it.

so if did you that so many times back when republicans were not in charge of this, why are you not doing it today? what's the difference? >> the difference is we have a republican president to work with us. i wanted to get president obama's attention that they were not working well and he was not willing to work with us. the majority in the house and the senate to try to improve the situation and president trump wants to improve the situation, as do i. now we're trying to work with the white house. and i hope that our democratic colleagues here capitol hill will work with us as well. >> last year, when you were voting to repeal this bill, you said this. i believe it was important that congress keep its promise to the american people and take the repeal effort all the way to the end of the process under our constitution. that doesn't seem to jive with what you just said. >> i think we do have the

responsibility to improve the situation. and certainly, i think that we have to work the president of the united states. and i think it was unfortunate during obama presidency that the bill was passed on a party line vote. i hope that we can learn from that lesson. i would imagine in the senate that there will have to be by m bipartisan cooperation will. >> if you believe that, why did the president not reach out to anybody on the democratic side of the house to say, hey, listen, let's find something that works for both sides. >> i think that the president is trying to reach out to both sides, as he has said. >> when did he do that? >> i would imagine as we move to the senate, i would imagine he would try to work the democrats. the democrats, katy, have to be willing to work with him. i thought it was very unthe fortune, unthe fortunate when the democrats were channelling on the floor of the house. not in the tradition of bynum cooperation.

when i was in a similar situation, in 2010, i certainly would not have conducted myself that way. >> would you have gone to the rose garden to celebrate a legislative win even before it is signed into law? even before it goes to the senate? >> i was not invited to the rose garden because he was one of 20 republicans not to vote for the legislation. i think that there should be bipartisan cooperation. that will require the actions, not only the majority leader but the minority leader as well. >> thank you very much, congressman, appreciate your time. >> thank you very much. we have a lot more to unpack on the future of the health care bill. when this bell rings... ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions,

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as we've been saying, the republican backed american health care act passed its first legislative hurdle today in the house. now it is on to the senate where the bill will need to clear a few more high hurdles to get to the president's desk.

the bill can pass with a simple majority which means the republicans can pass i had with two defections as long as it doesn't raise the deficit for ten years. but that's easier said than done. ted cruz, rand paul and mike lee have said they will support nothing except a repeal. and others have voiced opposition to the medicaid cuts in the bill. to get it through upper chal better, it is likely to go through a legislative makeover. >> what are the chances that this bill passes the senate? >> i think it has very long chances. this is about people. about health care. and about how this change tthe affordable care act would impact tens of millions. even hubs of millions who would end up paying more.

as you outlined. $the 80 billion taken out of medicare. nothing less than a complete repeal of the affordable care act. within the republican caucus, will be a very tricky undertaking indeed. >> this bill does cover pre-existing conditions. i lowers costs. he said it will offer better costs. they will offer coverage for those who do not have insurance. >> without a cbo score. >> i'm not sure how an $80 billion amendment is a small minor amendment. >> $8 billion technically. >> i'll take him at his word that he understands the bill. let's say by a number of other

estimates, this will drive somewhere between 20 and 24 million people off health insurance. for those who have gotten it improved, it was through consumer protections of the affordable care act. many of those will go away. particularly in states that apply for and get a waiver if this republican version actually becomes law. >> will the democrats vote in a unified block if there are no changes? >> yes. i expect we woflt more importantly, dozen have reached out since the beginning of this year and offered to work together on improving the affordable care act if republican there's step back from their misguided attempt to completely repeal it. so far they've said no to every offer we've made. so they'll have to figure out a way if they want to move ahead to do this with exactly 51 republican votes. and i think that will be very difficult. once folks realize how much this

will harm they wim, through the health care, i don't think there will be 51 votes. >> are the democrats coming up with a plan to fix obamacare? with some sort of completion they can to go their moderate republican colleagues and say we've got something? let's work together on this particular draft that we have that we're working at the moment? >> i was a co-sponsor of several bills in the last congress. we only had democratic co-sponsors but they were bills to address the specific challenges with the affordable care act. in terms of the opportunity for small business owners to provide health care to their employees. i know there are other ideas that other democrats have floated but frankly, until we see what the republicans come forward with in the senate, which i think will be an almost complete rewrite based on what we've seen, it is hard to know what path we'll be able to follow. >> nancy pelosi said that universal health care is not a plan that will work for

democrats. do you agree with her? should universal health care be a platform for democrats going forward? >> well, i think our goal has been to steadily increase the number of americans who have access to affordable quality insurance. it is certain lay long term go we would have universal access. in many states where there is only one insurance company providing coverage on the markets, providing an earn thety public option would make a lot of sense to me. in this environment where we're going to be fighting tooth and nail to stave consumer protections, and to save the affordability and access to health insurance that working families and seniors all got through the affordable care act, i think we're going to have our hands full defending the progress that we made tunneled aca. >> do you think health care will be a central issue in 2018? are you worried about some of your democratic senators? senators heller, or potentially, will you be going after senators

heller and flake? >> i do think it will be very difficult at the ballot box. if this bill ever passes through republican-controlled senate, and actually does take away health care from tens of millions of americans and reduced the quality and the affordability of health insurance that hundreds of millions get through their employers. i think that will be a very tough pill for the average american to swallow once they real pies trump care took away some of the great benefits under obamacare. >> do democrats bear some of the responsibility with the way obamacare was sold? it didn't have on it your platform. should you have done so? should you have trumpeted it more to make the public more aware? not aware of it but make them lying it more so wasn't such a distaste for it so that republicans could run and win on this idea of repealing it? >> i think one of our biggest failures as a party in terms of of standing behind the affordable care act was to help the hundreds of millions of

meerns get their insurance through their employer. to understand the ways in which the consumer protections of the aca dramatically improved the quality of the health insurance they were getting. so the end of discrimination against those with pre-existing conditions. the ability eep your kids on your insurance through age 26. the end of the ability to discriminate by insurance companies against older americans and against women. the average american didn't realize that was a benefit they got. the debate focused more narrowly on the tens of millions who didn't have health nshls at all and who got it through the aca. that was a big important advance. it didn't touch as many americans as those a got better care. >> appreciate your time. >> thank you. still ahead, our round table digs deep entire the resistance and how today's votes will play

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go, mississippi, alabama, louisiana, kentucky. that's concerning, isn't it, for the trump white house? >> well, in mississippi the market place is already basically fallen apart. i think there is one insurer left who is willing to under obamacare offer insurance to mississippians. so, something has to be done. i don't think that this bill is particularly the answer. i think it's a politically expedient answer to just do something which seems to be congress following in the white house foot step of passing a bill that is essentially not probably going to go anywhere, but something has to be done clearly. >> who are you going to watch in the senate? >> i think i'm going to watch -- i feel like i'm going to watch moderate republicans of course. and i think i'm going to watch the democrats. even though the democrats are going to be making a lot of noise in terms of kind of making -- putting the senate on call saying that they basically -- it's their reason they have to pull it back that they have to really -- it's really their homework, i should say, to pull this back. i think that i've been talking

to a lot of people who want to make the case they should already be going all the way left on health care. i'm looking at what democrats do and what they pin on the moderate senators. >> if the democrats one day, not in the future, came out with this single payer plan, do you think that would just torpedo them? i'm going to get the reporter before i get the stats. >> i don't think it would torpedo them. i think if we believe what bernie sanders is saying and we believe that the democratic party is going to be going on his line, this is what democrats really want, and that the people that -- even the ones that were moderates and that were getting behind hillary clinton, they really wanted what bernie sanders was pitching. they just were too scared people weren't going to get on board. i think the democrats are now learning a lesson from bernie sanders saying they can be as liberal as they want to be and people will come on board. >> why don't republicans say health care is san absolute right? >> because i think they're saying that different people want different things from the health care system. so, for example, of course you had republican opposition to the mandate. this bill that was just voted on

the house -- >> people say i don't want health care period? >> they're saying we don't want the government to coerce us into buying a health care plan. that is the flip side of is health care right versus is it your responsibility. republicans were campaigning, barack obama was campaigning in 2008 saying you shouldn't require people to buy it if they can't afford it. the bill that was just passed in the house, apparently this mandate is going to be rescinded. there is no longer going to be a tax penalty if you don't buy it. but again, i think the proof is in the premiums and in the details. if it gets passed in the senate, i would tell you i would keep my eye on both susan collins on the moderate side and ted cruz, your former boss senator paul. if those two sides come together. we saw the first time-out on the house, moderates and conservatives could not. >> is donald trump going to take rand paul golfing again. that will be the question. >> he could beat him any day. >> you said he's much better than him at golf. we have to go. thank you, ladies, very much. appreciate your time.

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in case you missed it, it looks like the lights on capitol hill are going to stay on, amidst all the fanfare over health care vote today. the senate relatively quiet passed the $1.1 trillion spending bill needed to keep the government running through september. and since we're pretty sure you did miss it, you might be surprised to hear that all 18 of the no votes came from republicans. the bill now goes to the white

house for president trump's signature. that would have been pretty big news today, but we were busy with health care, which admittedly is a lot further from the president's desk. that will do for me tonight. we'll be back again tomorrow with more mtp daily. you can find me every day also at 2:00 p.m. here on msnbc. for the record with greta starts right now. hi, greta. >> thanks, katey. >> i never miss 2:00 p.m. every day on msnbc. you are looking live at jfk airport. any minute president trump will land. he is headed home to the big apple. he might not like what he will see. he is expected to be greeted by protests. the president headed to the aircraft museum, the intrepid docked at new york city. in the rose garden at the white house, president trump selling the passage in the house of the gop health care bill. >> and this is a great plan. i actually think it will get even better, and this is, make no mistake,s is a repeal and ala