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plus, frankly speaking, we'll talk to former congressman barney fwrank tim pending repeal and rollback of another obama era law. the dodd frank banking regulations. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. i'm katy tur in new york in for chuck todd. republicans are gloating, democrats are literally singing. both seemed to see yesterday's house vote as a massive victory for their side but they cannot both be right. everyone is trying to make sense of the political fallout after the house pass ad controversial republican bill to replace obamacare. publics are hailing it as an historic 56th that will cure what ails american health care. >> yes, premiums will be coming down. yes, deductibles will be coming down. let's go out.

short little shots for each one of us and let's say how good this plan is. >> i guarantee, it will be a lot better than obamacare. >> anybody with a pre-existing illness or injury isn't prevented from getting what they want for themselves. >> so everyone a pre-existing nditn right now who is covered der obamaca will continue to have coverage. >> absolutely. >> but that same legislation has effectively been declared doa by some top republicans in the senate who say major changes are like needed before it can pass. some democrats downright giddy about what happened yesterday. a group of them taunltd republicans on the house floor in song during the vote. and within minutes, democrats were cutting health care ads like this one. >> in congress, i voted for obamacare because it was wrong that a million virginians weren't covered while insurance

companies had all the power. we'll make sure this never happens virginia. >> it's significant because he lost his sneet part because he supported obamacare snflt have the government takeover of health care. tom towed the party line every sent time. >> for two years, he's been a rubber stamp for the obama/pelosi agenda. two years of damage. can we really afford two more in. >> supporting obamacare was a liability then but he believes it is an asset now. nancy pelosi said democrats will, quote, tap to this vote. after all that strategy helped republicans when full control of congress in 2014. >> we will tattoo obamacare each of their foreheads and that will be what 2014 is all about. they want it to be about obamacare. we'll make about it obamacare. >> everything old is new again.

i'm joined by chris van hollen of maryland. he is the cheryl of the campaign arm. it is his job to lead to fight to defend democratic senate seats in 2018. he was the cheryl of the house democrats campaign arm during that devastating 2010 cycle. i'm sorry to remind you of that. >> that was a rough cycle. go to 2008. that was a great cycle. >> well, let's remember that if you like. do you believe the house is now in play? >> i think so. first of all you have all this energy around the company, resounding and resisting the agenda to turn back the clock and exhibit a in that effort is their effort to blow up the affordable care act. and the difference now is, katie, people around the country are now living the benefits of the affordable care act which is why the congressional budget office, a nonpartisan entity, concluded that 24 million

americans would lose access to affordable care if you blew it up as the house bill does and they took it one step further and made it even worse. so i think this is going to be a really tough vote for republicans to defend. more importantly for the country, it will be really bad for health care throughout the united states. >> so what did you learn from that in 2010? and what is the strategy going forward? is it the same strategy republicans used? >> i think the strategy, katie, is to continue to harness the energy out there. look. i think tens of millions of americans are very nevls about the fact donald trump is that this administration, together republicans in the house and the senate, are literally trying to turn back the clock on lots of progress in the united states of america. and trump, having sat on the campaign trail, that he was out there for working men and women, has put forward just the opposite agenda. look at the health care bill. a lot of people are focused on

the affordable care act exchanges. but it actually cuts medicaid by $800 billion while giving a big tax break of about $800 billion. mostly to powerful interests and very wealthy people. that's not what donald trump campaigned on but that's what they're going to have to defend. >> so you say you want to harness the energy. given that, what are democrats going to stand for? are they going on stand for single payer? >> well, let me be clear. they want to fix the problems with obamacare specifically within the and challenges. i believe it is creating a public option, a medicare type option within the affordable care act exchanges. that would create more competition. it would ensure a plan in every part of this countr we're going to ten to put forward ideas to fix it. but the republican goal is not

to fix it. >> is that a hybrid of the single payer/obamacare plan? is that what you're trying to say? >> well, within the exchanges, it would create medicare action. it was debated at the time in the house. many of us wanted to push this forward. before it under folded in the congress, that wasn't possible. a clear fix to this challenge. it makes it worse and it does these things. medicaid will be devastated. that will harm tens of millions of people. and all for what reason? to give the big tax cuts to wealthy people. that will be very difficult to defend and it is one reason republican senators are rightfully nervous about the house bill.

we should be nervous that they want to find a way to make sxhangs pass it through senate. >> so you're saying this is the destruction of health care. given that, is it appropriate for house democrats to be singing on the house floor, for them to be cheering this on? what message does that send to the american people when they are singing? this is something for many, for some at least, literally life and death he? >> i not sure i would have recommended that response like would not have recommended that republican house members tromp down to the white house and have a beer party when they're taking away health care for tens of millions of americans. you're right. this is a serious issue and we should debate it on the merits. and it is on the merits and the substance where i think this will be a big liability for people who are trying to defend this vote in the house and for senators, who are now considering what to do going

forward. i urge every american to weigh in. we know only 17% of the country supported the earlier house bill. that's what they've sent to the senate. it is really important that everybody in the country weigh in on this issue. it is not a surprise that every patient advocacy group, the american cancer society, the american heart association, the american lung association, kids groups, doctors, hospitals, the aarp, they're all dead set against this. it is not because they're weighing in on a partisan basis. their patients are republicans, democrats, independents. >> why should americans trust democrats to fix this? >> well, the democrats have put forward a proposal that the congressional budget office has looked at and they say not only wod the public option save

money for the taxpayers, it would also have the effect of driving down the costs within these exchanges. so the republican approach was not to read the analysis of their proposal. because they didn't want to know facts as they went forward. i hope they will embrace it. we've put forward the cost of prescription drugs. blowing up the affordable care act entirely will impose huge costs on the public. >> appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you. i'm joined now by congressman mark sanford of south carolina who is a member of the house caucus. he switched his vote to yes after first opposing it. thank you for joining me i want to get your retook senator chris

van hollen. he believes because of this house, the house will be in play for democrats in 2018. do you see his, do you see that? are you concerned about it? >> it is certainly the talk of the town if it is the case. if the bill makes its way through and produces a tangible result in terms of lowering health care premiums and still preserving pre-existing conditions, and the needs of people who have profound health care needs, i think it could be a plus for republicans. if it sells in the senate, and it goes nowhere, i suspect it is more of a liability. >> if it does go through senate, you have a lot of big promises to live up to. i know it is your position obamacare is failing. let's put that to the side. everyone with a pre-existing conditions is still going to be

covered. no one will lose insurance. it will cost less. can this bill live up to those promises? >> it won't necessarily cost less. the whole idea behind the pooling arrangements, it was originally $15 billion in the palmer amendment and then $8 billion got added with the upton amendment in terms of protecting people with high risk status. so there is real status. what we're doing now with the affordable care act is a hidden cost shift from many people who are healthy and perhaps, two within the individual health care marketplace over to people who have more pro found health care needs. what we're saying is let health care be health care insurance for the pronls of the marketplace. so it can be priced in a w that, two people are induced to participate. and for people who do have health care needs, let's be

overt about helping them. >> can you promise that that $8 billion will be enough to cover those with high risk pools? >> what i can promise is if wasn't enough, it will be adjusted. there's a clear societaler accord that we're going to cover in this country people with pre-existing conditions and for folks, kids, two people to the age of 26, who can stay on their parents' plan. i'm sorry. go ahead. >> i'm sorry. there are so many advocacy groups and independent groups and medical group that's are against this bill. you have the american medical association, the american hospital association, the america's health insurance plans, aarp, all of them are concerned about the cost to consumers for this bill. the cost of those looking for health care and the coverage. is it not a liability to have so many groups say hold on. we don't believe this will be better for you.

this is n is this not a liability for republicans? >> it may well be. that's why i was one of the holdouts when it came back in march. on three republicans voted no. i happen to be one of the three. and i was among the holdout that's stalled bill so we ended up with three additional amendment that's came from march until now. and ultimately the question we had to and at this point in e debate was srgs it worthy of even handing off to the senate so they might continue this debate on where we go next to health care? i think that those three amendments improved it enough so it was worth handing off to the senate. i don't think that was the case before. the senate are do what it will do and it will come back to the house and it will have a vote in conference. we're on the first round of a three-step process.

so proponents i don't think need to get ahead of themselves declaring victory. and opponents need to say wait a minute. let's take a breath. there's a lot more debate to come on something that's pivotal and crucial in people's lives. >> so it is just the first step. the senate is likely going to change it. you signed on because of the mac arthur amendment. if they water that down, are you going to be a yes for this bill when it goes back to the house? >> that's a crazy hypothetical. i don't know what they'll come up with. i have to look at -- >> so what's the deal breaker for you? >> what's the deal breaker? >> two things. living up to the promise that has been made with the promise of helping people with pre-existing conditions and covering them. the other deal breaker is helping people in the individual marketplace so that you actually reduce premiums. that'sltimately what this bill is all about and what ts larger idea is about.

if y look at what happened in virginia this week with regard to aetna dropping out of the exchanges, if you look at south carolina where premiums went up by 30%. if you look at 95 out of 99 states in ohio. in maryland, premiums going up by 60%. something who is the give. how do we do something to help that small business person throughout struggling with the increasing cost of health care, while could not currently helping somebody with dire health care needs, is ultimately the what this debate is all about. and those are the deal breakers for me. >> congressman, thank you very much for joining us. >> yes, ma'am. thank you. >> let's bring in the panel. a fight for a black middle class. snick an msnbc criticalor and a report we are "the new york times." and a republican strategist. let's start right there with

mark sanford. he said it was a crazy hypothetical to talk about the mac arthur getting watered down. >> it is not crazy at all. the amendment does not protect people with pre-existing conditions which is what so many republican politicians say that it does. we know that states will be able to and for waivers and convinced some states will and for waivers. and some people with pre-existing conditions will probably be confront with premium increases that are higher than they can afford. >> scott walker said this afternoon that he is thinking of pulling wisconsin out of requirement that's the some version passes. if you get rid of the community rating, the rule that says you can't charge more than other people on the plan with these conditions. you basically open the door to hiked prices. so they might have access to an insurance plan with you they can't afford it. >> so both sides are declaring

victory. the republicans are saying we got something done. the democrats are saying we're going to pin this on you. we're going to do to you what you did to us in 2010. >> the difference there is that the democrats passed obamacare. in both houses. it became law. right now they're going to try to pin something on the republicans no, sir way going to resemble a final piece of legislation. >> will there be a final piece of legislation by 2018? >> i believe so. what the win was in the house was a win not to have a primary on the right of them come 2018. there's a lot of time between now -- >> so this is just politics. >> it gets them to the point where they got to vote for not really repealing. even though that's the language everybody is using. but they're basically drastically changing obamacare and that's the promise they went to. don't forget, 75% of the republicans in congress only came in after obamacare was law.

so they're just learning how to govern. this is the closest they've gotten so far. so let's see what happens when it goes to the senate and comes back to them. i think the economy will be a key thing. president trump, where he is, will be another key thing. right now most importantly to a lot of republicans, they don't see a republican primary. >> democrats really want to use this to their advantage. >> you have to give him credit. is this something that republican there's weather document 2018 mid terms? or will they wash over them? especially in those democrat leaning districts. the cook report is saying a number of districts that are leaning forward. >> i think they might as well have celebrated the way that they did. all the things going forward

will be bad news from a republican perspective. you'll hear about all the groups you've been talking about, national groups on posed to the legislation. you'll hear about horror stories in terms of health care. >> what horror stories? it's not law. you want to talk about horror stories. >> i'm talking about the coverage. the coverage will be about families. >> but the coverage won't be in place so howan there be a horror story? >> because continuing news business. because the news folks will go out there and cover individuals and families who did not have health insurance before obamacare and who will say that obamacare saved their lives. and if you take this away from them, terrible things will happen. >> why are we not making more of an effort in congress to find bipartisan support? otherwise, is it going to ping pong back and forth between republicans and democrats every time there is a change in the

presidency? i think democrats view this as immoral. there's a fundamental difference of opinion. >> but republicans are not signing on for most part to the idea that there will be a complete repeal of health care. >> i think there's room for deal making down the line because democrats have basically won the intellectual war on the issue. as a duty of government torsion provide insurance for people who can't provide it for themselves. that was not always the main stream gop position five, ten years ago. until republicans would bargain in good faith to patch the problems, you will not see any

deal making. >> i think one of the most important aspects of , and he mentioned. this this is an enormous, one of the greast transfers of wealth in the poor and the middle class to the wealthy that has ever been contained in a single piece of legislation. and you have cuts to medicaid approaching a trillion dollars and medicaid is what provides health care for the poor and the disabled. >> in four months, we'll have a completely different conversation. because the piece of legislation, the bill that the house sent over is not what the senate will go on. so we'll have to modify it. >> we'll leave it there for just now. we can debate this further. coming up, health care consequences. how yesterday's house vote could give democrats a shot in the

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unpopular law. the gop won the majority that election. and they have controlled the house ever since. the gop health care bill was bonl 27 hours ago. but it has had some small reverberations already. the cook political report changed the ratings of 20 republican held seats to be far more favorable for democrats. and the democratic fundraising outlet had act blue says they've raised $4.2 million since yesterday. joining me, the senator for politics at the university of virginia and the keeper of the political crystal ball. i know it is really early but i'm going to get your opinion on this. what there be electoral consequence of. vote yesterday? >> i wish you had mentioned that it is really early. because that is critical. it is 18 months until the congressional election. let's remember, the presidential race flipped in the last 12 days

so anything can happen. look. democrats at least to this point are energized by anti-trump sentiment which is deep a strong and i don't think it will fade very much. and now they have a second reason to turn out in the 2018 mid-term elections. that is opposition to what the republicans have just done on health care. and look, regardless of what happens in the senate, regardless of whether the congress as a hole is able to repeal in any fashion obamacare, you have the vote taken yesterday by the 23 republican who's are in districts that hillary clinton carried. you can be pretty sure that i think it was 14 of them voted for the republican bill. you can be sure those 14 are all going to be targeted by the democrats. let me add one other the point. in 2010 when the democrats lost 63 seats, we found out that it doesn't help you very much if

you are a member of your party that votes against the party bill. tons of democrats who voted against obamacare still lost in november. why in because they have a d next to their name. >> so the republican who's didn't vote for this bill are still not safe. because it will get painted with a broad brush. >> exactly. people vote today on party lines. it is a question of which side energized for the 2018 elections. today democrats more energized than republicans. who knowshat will be in 18 months. >> it seems a bit like deja vu. you have the republican party tying themselves to an unbomb hard health care bill. it will be eight years later in 2018. do political parties not learn from history? >> well, they learn if history. that's why so many republicans didn't want to vote for and it had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the altar to vote

for it. and it is why it only got 217 votes when republicans control a lot more seats in the house. so they got it. they were between a sxrrock and hard place. they had sworn they were going to repeal and replace obamacare. >> but they did not. >> and lo and behold, they control and everything they have to do it. >> they ran on repealing more than replacing and they did not do that. talk to me about the georgian election. how much of a role is this vote going to play in their june run-off? >> well, this has to help ossoff, i would think. i'm sure they're putting together some ads and communications to voters that will help again to energize. not just the democratic base but some of the republicans in that highly educated district who don't like donald trump and probably aren't thrilled with the republican health care bill.

>> why is the first mid-term also a coup for the other party? >> well, it isn't ways. >> 2002, isn't that the only one? other than that. >> 1962 with john f. kennedy's first and only mid material. they were expected to lose in congress because of the cuban missile crisis. that's why i urge caution. you never know what will happen in the fall of 2018th. but the best estimates on what we know today, they were really, really bad years for the president's party in the first mid-term. >> with a good reminder that politics was definitely turned on its head in 2016. and any prediction is probably a bad prediction this far out. thank you very much. >> thank you. still ahead, could another key piece of obama legislation

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the affordable care act wasn't the only one of president obama's signature pieces of legislation if republican cross hairs just this week alone. house republicans took step toward disntling dodd frank, e sprawling walltreet reform bill passed bongress after the 2008 financial crisis. the house financial services committee approved a bill yesterday to gut some of the biggest parts of. law. all the democrats on the committee voted against it. according to the hill, the debate lasted more than 24 hours over the course of three days. during which lawmakers fought oh, quote, the true cause of the 2008 crisis, the federalist papers, the founding of the united states, russia's influence on the 2016 presidential election, president trump's potential conflicts of interest, and the emoluments clause of the constitution. i would like to get into the politics behind the always

contentious bill. thank you for being here, congressman. are you surprise that had republicans are targeting this? >> no. when we voted on it in 2009 and 2010 to the disappointment of both of us, we got zero republican cooperation. we wanted to work with them of ironically, and in the end, by the way, the republicans voted overwhelmingly not to amend the bill. but simply not to do anything. in the final vote on the house of representatives in 2010, when they had a chance to offer their version of what they wanted, they offered a version that struck everything. and in the end, only three out of 200 republicans voted for it. same in the senate. chris dodd had aeeting scheduled and he said, let's have amendments and let's talk about it. and he was told by the republican leader we're just not

into it. what is ironic, it was truly bipartisan. it began in 2008 when we the democrats took control of the congress, and the bush administration had some very reasonable administrators. secretary paulson, fed chairman bernanke, fdic chair, it really came out of a bipartisan consense us about what to do. on the other hand you have, not on the other hand but what you have is ideological rigidity on the part of some republicans who simply did not learn the lesson that regulation can be helpful. but you have the, one of the few lessons of the health care bill is that right wing control of the republican party is alive and well. a bill comes up a month ago and

it has some problems with some of the more centrist republicans. and what they did was call on the right wing republicans and say how can we satisfy you? and we do everything to satisfy all the right wing republicans. all the opposition came from some moderates. that's what's going on with the financial reform bill. this is not a case of trying to say, what chains can we make? some of which i've supported. this is a right wing ideological rejection of any government role in regulating the financial industry. >> well, now that you mention, that you do say there were some flaws to dodd frank. and i think you pointed to the extra super vision over the banks with $50 billion in assets. you wod bump that to $125 billion or more. right? >> of course. i got dressed this morning and i noticed, i have, i gave up my search for flawlessness in

complicated things many years ago. i do think that -- what? >> i'm sorry. on the question of flaws, and this is the heart of, if we're going to talk about health care, you brought it up a moment ago. admitting that obamacare needed to be fixed, did that enable republicans to seize on messaging? did it give them an opening to say, we've got to fix it, we've got to do something. >> i would get the notion. we have a complicated process, and you go at things and you are doing them for the first time. and the notion that having done something that was complicated a year or two or three down road, you might want to alter this or that piece. that's not admitting anything. that's an inherent part of the process. i know of no one who has the arrogance and the stupidity to believe that you can do something of enormous complexity

and get it perfect the first time. and acknowledging that is no admission. and the tactics of it, if you find something that you got wrong, the refusal to fix it opens you up. one of the things that i want to change wasn't a flaw originally. it hasn't worked out. here's the deal. smaller banks. >> reporter: spending too much money on things won't protect them. >> i think with regard to the banks less than $10 billion, i did not anticipate that they would overcomply with the law in effect. so i would fix that. but with herring or financial reform or anything complex. yes, of course. do you the best you can the first time. and you recognize with

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because that's easy. tas had happen always in the news. new reporting from nbc news says the senate intelligence committee has requested some information from carter page, but specifically all of the communications he may have had with russia. does that mean "the new york times" is reporting to do the same for paul manafort and roger stone, does this mean that the senate intelligence committee is back on track after those reports of infighting, bob? >> it is an indication they might be back on track, but i have one question for carter page. why is he ever on television? what is the matter with -- >> you wonder if he has a lawyer that wants to like pull him back. >> exactly. >> and say what are you doing. >> are you kidding? this is serious investigation. he's facing potential serious problems. and the first thg a lawyer tes you z stop talking. >> let's get his response. he said any records i may have saved a private citizen with limited technology capabilities will be minuscule in comparison to the full database of information which has already been collected under the direction of the obama administration during last

year's completely unjustified fisa warrant. he said it was a hate crime because he's a catholic. putting that to the side -- [ laughter ] >> yeah, putting that to the side. but the investigation, this is still something that is -- it may not be in the headlines, but is something that is still ongoing. what obligation does the senate have to keep this as low-key as they can in order to avoid the partisan accusations? they had a few of them i think last week or a couple weeks ago. how do they make sure that they can do this and convince the public that they can do this in a bipartisan way? >> it doesn't start out well with the investigation. they came out strong, they did a joint statement, the ranking member and chairman pairing together answering questions along the same tune. i think this issuance of subpoenas -- i'm sorry, of a request for information jointly is a good step for them.

the hard part is they have to subpoena anything. if you get joint agreement for that subpoena, i think it's important, though, that they share the same goals, which is to get to the bottom of what actually happened regard less o who it helps or hurts. >> given the out thereness -- if that's a word, what sort of witness is carter page? is he effectively by going on television and saying these things and being so far out there, basically undercutting his own credibility as somebody who may have been an important player in the trump campaign? >> if he had any credibility -- he has any credibility to go forward. >> can we say this guy has nothing to do with this? >> there are other names that come forward. then i hear paul manafort, you hear roger stone, you hear michael flynn. so, those are the things that we really, i think, are going to be hearing a lot more about, and that will be credible and when they testify in front of the senate. to answer your earlier question about are they more back on track, absolutely, because when

they -- when the republicans sent a letter to susan rice without a democrat signing on board, she refused to come in and answer questions because there wasn't bipartisan support. so, the republicans learned a lesson there. they know that they have to have bipartisan support. carter page is a problem because he just doesn't know how to shut up. so, it will be a problem for the trump administration. but not a significant impact on the investigation. >> i will say, katie, carter page is the kind of person who arrives at a campaign when the campaign is like kind of under dog campaign or a bit not traditional and they attract people who would normally not get within 30 feet of an advisory committee. i did some reporting on this, and perhaps is convennt,ut people who worked in the trump campaign cannot recall him being in many meetings or briefing the now president ever. he did attend a couple of the group meetings. it's not clear what real role he ever had. he obviously wants to present himself at different points as an important player. >> maybe that's why he was a

target for the russians to begin with. >> maybe that's why he's on tv. >> he wasn't somebody we saw on a daily basis at the campaign at their side. he wasn't as visible as the high profile players of the trump campaign. >> their actual security advisor was working with -- >> why he shouldn't be given this much attention. frankly we do need to have a real conversation about what happened, but not with carter page. >> susan, i appreciate your time. guys, happy friday. i hope you have a wonderful weekend. after the break why president trump isn't going to mar-a-lago any more. stay tuned.

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finally tonight, in case you missed it, president trump won't be returning to mar-a-lago any time soon. that's because what he calls the winter white house is closing for the season. but don't worry, the president has another get away called bedminster, and that's where he's spending time this weekend. of course mar-a-lago is more than just the trump family's florida vacation home. it is also a private club with golf, food, entertainment for members, and the chance to hob nob with the president all for an initiation fee of $200,000. that price doubled reportedly since election day. in case you missed it, bedminster is also a private club and there are varyi reports about how much it costs. but reportedly, it is one of the mo expensive of the trump golf clubs. so, no matter the season, you, too, could mingle with the president of the united states, that is, if you can afford it.

that's all for tonight. we'll be back monday with more mtp daily and if it's sunday catch meet the press on your local nbc station and remember you can catch me every week day at 2:00 p.m. here on msnbc. for the record with greta starts right now. hi, greta, happy friday. >> hello, katie, how are you? what a weekend it's going to be for all of us. we have an unbelievable story this hour. residents of flint, michigan facing foreclosure because of unpaid water bills. that's right, that toxic water poisoning many of their children, that's coming up. but we begin tonight with the breaking news at key russian investigation witness is now bucking the u.s. senate. the leaders of the senate intelligence committee saying they are no longer sure if foreign trump foreign policy carter page is cooperating with their investigation. now that stunning announcement after "the new york times" reported that the intel committee has asked several people connected to the trump campaign, including carter page, to hand over e-mails and other records of communications and dealings with russian officials and business