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ambassador sergey kislyak, all for the purposes of flynn to read. "the washington post" says senior members of the president's transition team warned flynn his conversations with kislyak were most certainly being monitored by u.s. intelligence agencies if on open lines. nbc also learned last night the obama team was so wary of the trump campaign's ties to russia, it gave them only hours' notice before retaliating against russia for the election interference with sanctions. now, the news comes just days before former acting attorney general sally yates testifies before a senate panel investigating russia's inrference in the u.s. election. meanwhile the white house is throwing its weight in montana's special congressional election later this month, which is to replace the secretary of the interior of the secretary. vice president mike pence will be campaigning for the state's only seat in the u.s. house of representatives. president trump trump will be at his personally branded new jersey golf resort and putting

pressure on the senate to pass the house's health care bill. here is part of president's weekly address. >> it will be great health care and your premiums will come down and your deductibles will come do down. you'll have better health care at a lower cost. now i'm calling on the senate to take action. >> want to go now to branchburg, new jersey where kelly o'connell has the latest from the trump team. any fallouts from the latest revelations about michael flynn and what the transition team was asking about ambassador kislyak? >> reporter: the trump administration is just not talking about it thom marks as you might expect. these are complicated issues that they do not want to have additional exposure to. the on going investigation is happening. none of this is particularly flattering to the trump team. you laid it out very clearly

there, there were concerns during the transition from a member of the trump transition with foreign policy expertise, concerned that michael flynn who had been an advisor to the president, that he did not have a full grass of the fact that the ambassador from russia to the united states according to the intelligence community may have ties to russia's intelligence community. so speaking to him is not like speaking to a typical diplomat, was a part of their concern that it might be communicating to russian intelligence, something that should be kind of a high warning sigh for the new administration. so these details that are coming out about this reporting from the associated press and "the new york times" and "the washington post" and some of our own as well, leads up to the big hearings that will be happening related to the investigation where some of this information may be part of a public hearing,

some of it behind closed doors as the senate is looking at russian ties to the trump organization as well as interference by russia during the 2016 election. that's the backdrop for all of us. of course, michael flynn had those conversations with the russian ambassador that ended up costing him his position because it was later made clear he had not been fully forthcoming about his conversations about sanctions with russia in those conversation, something that was highly sensitive at the time. so we're getting a window as well that the obama administration as a part of its work on the transition was wear of the trump organization and whether they would somehow tip-off russia about sanctions which is why the window of time when they notified trump about the incoming team, was narrowed to a very small window, concern about the possibility that word could be passed to them. at was a concern. there was no evidence presented that would have taken place.

that's the backdrop for all of us. for the trump white house and the president spending time here in new jersey this weekend, all of that is something they hoped would end with the dismissal of michael flynn. we've seen that's not been the case. the questions keep coming up and the investigation continues and it could go on for months to come as the senate intelligence committee and those on the house side as well are looking at this in addition to what the fbi is also examining as well. >> especially with sally yates about to testify. thank you, kelly. we witnessed a victory lap in the rose garden after the american health care act squeaked through congress. members heading back to their home districts. congressman tom reid who represents western new york outside of buffalo, holding a down hall meeting in dunkirk. nbc's beth bowie is there.

what kind of questions will tom reid be facing today? what's the atmosphere like, beth? >> reporter: thomas, the town hall meeting has just gotten under way. congressman tom reid speaking to his constituents. take a look at this large crowd here. this is a very rural part of the state of new york. these folks are here in full force. congressman reid is the only republican congressman we could find out who is actually even holding town hall meetings. they took that vote on thursday, went back home for recess, but aren't holing these types of meetings with their constituents to get their feedback. tom reid is certainly getting feedback now. i want to bring in a guest, audrey dowling. she's here, has the sign talking about her voters not liking his plan. she's going to talk to me about why she's here. audrey, why are you here? >> i'm here because i'm very concerned about friends who have

pre-existing conditions. i am tired of hearing friends cry. people are scared out here and i thk they have very good reason to be sred. we do not like the vote that was just taken by tom reid. we are compassionate people. we take care of each other, try to take care of each other and we want to see this not happen. thank you. >> reporter: thanks, audrey. that's a lot of what we've been hearing from folks in the audience. they want to talk about the health care vote, but other things, too, the russia investigation and general concerns they have about the trump administration. >> keep us posted, beth. we'll check back with you later in the day. i want to get a democrats' perspective on health care after thursday's vote. joining me in studio is new york congresswoman carolyn maloney. great to see you. >> good to see you. >> your reaction to what took

place in d.c.? you're disappointed. >> i'm greatly disappointed. an assault on working americans, removing over 23 million people who have health care now from the roles. it will increase costs for americans. it imposes an age tax and guts the protections of pre-existing conditions, and i can tell you one of the pre-existing conditions i heard about in my office is pregnancy. many women could not get coverage or health care to are the birth of a child because they had a pre-existing condition, pregnancy. >> women are particularly hurt through this more than men will be. why is that? weren't there republican women in the house that were working on what was being crafted? weren't they giving input? >> the affordable care act is particularly good for women.

planned apparent hood provides essential health care to women who need it across the country. without it there is no other health care for them. it provides for contraception, provides for pregnancy. even the playing field between men and women -- women's insurance used to be five times, ten mes morhan men. this treated them equally. so there were huge gains in this bill for women. i predict my colleague and good friend mr. reid is going to have an earful from women and men who want pre-existing conditions to be covered. i would say the rumors of their success are greatly exaggerated. they should not have been having this ceremony at the white house because my friends in the senate are telling them that it is dead on arrival, they're starting all over. more importantly than my friends in the senate, people across this country who have benefited under the affordable health

care, who liked getting their prescription drugs covered, who have liked having pregnancy covered and their illnesses, common illnesses like asthma, that's a pre-existing condition. >> do you agree with the point of the aca, where obamacare was right now, the reforms, tweaks, updates needed to keep insurers involved, to make sure premiums remain low and to keep folks rs not just only having access, but to make sure they're properly insured, you agree there needs to be reform? >> absolutely. i agree completely, thomas. what we should do is sit down at a table and work it out. take the framework and protect pre-existing conditions, but also modernize it, streamline it, make it more efficient. there's certain ways -- every law can be improved. we do it every year for practically everything, modernize it. we should work together to come

up with a health care plan instead of barking at each other across the room and not really moving forward in a positive way for america. >> so this is doa on the senate side and maybe it goes back to square one for the house, with not being on board with what the senate is going to come up with, are you willing to work with the other side of the aisle and come up with -- >> absolutely. >> maybe the third time is the charm if it gets back to you over there under a trump administration. would you be open to trying to find a way to forge forward? >> i would say the best legislation is bipartisan. if it's not bipartisan, we always swing back and forth in the country. you see what we're seeing now, the new power coming in and throwing out what the democrats did. then the democrats will get in and throw out what the republicans did. we should sit down, take the best ideas from both sides of the aisle and come up with a

workable plan for americans. we are such a successful country, we can come forward, together with a plan that is workable, affordable, has access and protection for all of our people, our rich, our poor, our middle class. everyone should have health care in the wealthiest country on earth. it should be a birth right actually. when i was a youngster working in politics, our goal was to have affordable health care and health care for all. we finally achieved it. every president in my lifetime has called for affordable health care for all. we finally have it. let's keep it, make it better, improve it in various ways, but let's move forward. >> i think you're still a youngster with that dream, because it's not perfect in this country right now. there's much more work to be done. a step closer with what happened under president obama and we'll see what happens with the senate

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i'm gonna just go back to doing what i was doing. find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. i've never seen someone so hands-on. >> i want to thank the president of the united states for his steadfast leadership. >> we wouldn't be here today without the work and the help of the president and the vice president of the united states. >> there we have lots of love for the president from republicans after the american health care act squeaked through the house this week. the bill is being widely criticized by leading health care associations and faces an uphill battle as it heads to the senate.

joining me now, yamiche alcindor and francesca chambers. yamiche, is it really a victory for becomes? they did something, the house agreed on something, why isn't that a small victory? >> i think it's a small victory because there were so many people who didn't think the bill would make it, the third time they had been talking about voting because it was canceled the first two times and scrapped entirely. i think there is something to say they are having a moment and they are able to get something through the house. of course, the problem is now most people know that the senate and a lot of the senators, republican senators saying, hey, wait a minute, we don't know what's in the bill. we have a lot of questions and we'll come up with our own bill and figure out how this works. i think while house republicansing and the president can say we got something done and this is the first step to repealing and replacing obamacare, in reality, this is

aa super small step. >> they proved they can square dance a bit over on the house side together locked in arm, again, razor thin. francesca, i want to play senator john mccain. take a listen. >> we promised the american people and i promised the people of arizona we would repeal and replace obamacare. >> do you like the house bill? >> frankly i haven't paid that much attention. really, there's no reason for me to because we will take it up here. >> they want to repeal and replace obamacare, they have had umpteen votes over president obama's term and now with president trump in office. and yet there seems to be no physical plan to realize -- now that the house has one, it seems as though the senate wants to go back to square one. why is that. >> there's a lot of things the senate doesn't like in this bill. it's not just democrats.

there are also republicans, senators in swing states who definitely do not want to do that because it would hurt their constituents. the house bill limits people between the ages of 50 and 65. that's not something republicans in the senate want to do either. going back to what you're saying about the time to come up with something, this is what the president said earlier this week, he was surprised by the fact that they took all this time and took so many votes and didn't have a better ll. what happened here is the president said he would repeal and replace obamacare on day one. it put up this artificial timeline to get something done quickly. they started scrambling to get something done in the first 100 day, felt like they had to have a victory and perhaps put up a bill that maybe isn't the best it could be and definitely isn't something that the senate wants to take up as is.

>> we know, yamiche, talking about the other aspects, nbc cob firming that the senate intelligence agency has asked carter page to turn e-mails over, other communications with russian contacts. do you think he's going to comply? if so, what's the public going to learn? >> it's hard to say what the public is going to learn until we hear what the contexts are. i suspect he'll co-comply mainly because, with all that's going on, i think he's going to find himself without ooh choice to comply. this goes to the idea that you'll see sally yates talking about russian contacts and talking about this idea of what she warned the president about when it came to michael flynn. what it goes to is this idea that russia continues to be an issue that this administration

has the people surrounding donald trump had all these contacts with russia and now you have multiple investigations trying to get to the bottom of it. i think carter page will have to comply or he'll find himself at a different end with both of these committees. >> meanwhile, francesca, what do you make of the fact that certainly mike flynn had knowledge of the ceo being hired and then fired by president obama, but working within the intelligence community and the trump folks had asked for information about kislyak to be able to provide to flynn. wouldn't flynn have knowledge about kislyak, the long-time russian ambassador stationed here? >> that would seem to be the case. i also wanted to comment on the carter page thing and say he has been very, very open about talking to the media and talking about the context that he did or didn't have, said he wasn't a

foreign agent. he has openly on national television repeatedly talked about this. it would make sense to also go before this committee and say those exact things. if he's innocent, he's innocent. >> you're right. he will take a sit-down here and there and express himself about what his connections were as well as direct access within the trump team. now we have the issues, yamiche of the former deputy attorney general sally yates. she's going to testify. how much do you think of what sally yates is going to come to talk about is going to be solely based on the working knowledge of kislyak, flynn and other members of the trump transition team that are expected of having some alleged russian ties. >> her whole testimony from my understanding is going to be about this issue, about how much

the trump administration knew about michael flynn, even when they put him into office and officially made him the head of that agency, i think the idea is going to be what did he know -- the experts say they gave him this profile on who this person was. at the same time it's unclear whether or not he read it, unclear whether or not he actually understood that. sally yates has said and other people have said -- not sally yates, but other people have said he knew the ambassador's contacts were being recorded and monitored. if he knew talking to this person, there was going to be a transcript. why then turn around and lie to the vice president of the united states. >> isn't this also going to be, yamiche, an issue for jeff sessions because of their meeting, kislyak having meetings with jeff sessions who has had to recuse himself as ag over this. >> she's someone who because of the fact that she made this very bold move to say i'm not going

to really defend all these executive orders, this is someone who i think will be very open to givg information about jeff sessions and about the white house. i think unlike some people, i would say when james comey was testifying, sally yates to me is going to be real political theater, will be one of the most open people that goes before this committee. it's going to be i think a very interesting monday. >> finally, francesca, you have reporting about a reduced role for omerosa in the white house. what did you learn? >> well, there was a report this week that she and other members of the senior staff were being kept out of oval office meetings now because they were trying to limit the number of people in there to make them more efficient. while that has been happening, they are reducing the number of people in some of these meetings, they're saying it's not specifically about her, that she is not being kept out of any meetings that she was in before, that this is very specifically

about really getting the trains running efficiently and back on time. >> and also, a senior level source told me she doesn't have an office in the west wing, she's over in the eisenhower building. she's not that close to begin with. her office is in eisenhower, correct, francesca? >> i'm not entirely sure about that. one thing i was also told about this is that you have to recall that she's known president trump for a long time, longer than some of these other people because they were on "the apprentice" together. she is someone who helped in the campaign with his blackoutreach. if president trump wants to call someone into the oval office or call them on the phone to have a discussion, he's going to do that. there's not anyone who will stop him in the west wing. >> it's so funny when you say they were on "the apprentice" together. >> my sources told me she is a gatekeeper to a lot of african-american republicans, there are a lot of hires going through omerosa, a lot of people

say she's very close to the president, he trusts her and believes in her loyalty. this is someone who has taken fire for president trump, the idea that she was head of the blackoutreach when he was going to no black communities, when he went to one black church, the fact that he had to deal with that and defend those stances. she did that and stayed on to go to the white house tells you something about the level of respect that the president has for her. >> she is tough and a sur vf vor. we all know that. yamiche and francesca, thank you for your time. more fallout following the passing of this new health care bill in the house. what's going to happen to it over in the senate? we'll discuss after this.

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michael flynn and russian ambassador sergey kislyak. it went as far back as late november. this is according to the ap, marshall billingsley, a former pentagon official working for flynn asked for kislyak's profile and, quote, seemed concerned. i want to bring in former congressman pete hoax stra, republican of michigan and former ranking member of the house intelligence committee. what do you make of the report and people with the trump team were so concerned about this, why didn't they really make sure flynn knew the person he was dealing with? >> i look at this story and i don't see much content in here. as a former director of defense intelligence, of the defense intelligence agency, general flynn would have -- i would guess would be very aware that the russian ambassador would have clo ties to the russian

intelligence organizations, that he would anticipates and expect that the ambassador would be a target and any phone conversations and other meetings would be a primary target for the u.s. intelligence community and there's a good chance that the communications would be intercepted. and so that doesn't seem new to me, that michael flynn should have known and probably did know all of that. >> so you're saying that michael flynn then would be guilty of doing something illegal basically within the transition time period, talking with the ambassador about lifting sanctions on behalf of president trump. do you think he's done something illegal and should be prosecuted for it? >> no. absolutely, i don't think he did anything illegal. i would think in that transition period from the election to -- >> if you're saying the general due to his work under president obama and rank within the

intelligence community was fully assumed knowledge of kislyak and ties to russian intelligence and willfully spoke to him based on sanctions of an incoming administration and then being lifted and then lying about it to vice president pence and then being fired, you don't find any of that to be illegal or espionage category or treason. >> well, let's break this down piece by piece here, all right? number one, flynn would have known about the ambassador's ties to the intelligence community, whatever they may have been. >> okay. >> he would have been aware that the communications were being monitored. talking with the russian ambassador would not be an illegal activity. i would think in that transition period of time the next national security adviser would be reaching out to communicate with the russians, with the chinese,

the egyptians, israelis, german, brits. >> i'm talking about president obama's sanctions on russia and those being lifted under a trump administration and as general flynn was representing the administration in the transition of national security, speaking to kislyak about raising those sanctions and then lying to vice president pence, do you find that to beny act of espionage or treason? >> i wouldn't g to espionage or treason. i think it would be ill advised for an incoming national security advisor to say during that period of time that, well, hey, don't worry. we're going to have a different approach, you can go there. specifically -- we don't know what was in that content, but to specifically say this is going to be the trump policy when we take office on january 20. if it was just talking about a different ap proep, it wouldn't be a whole lot different than

what president obama said prior to the 2012 election, leading over to a russian official, instead give me a little latitude or be a little patient because after the election i'm going to have more flexibility. so that wouldn't have been a problem either. >> because video and sound existed there and president obama didn't try to distort his way out of what that conversation was, everybody could see and listen to how that made sense. obviously sally yates brought information to the white house based on kislyak and flynn's conversations and the fact that flynn didn't report those appropriately, meaning that kislyak could compromise him in some way because of the fact that sanctions did come up. flynn lied about it and that way he could be somehow blackmailed. does that concern you at all, that he would have been compromised -- >> obviously i think -- i'm not sure about the blackmail part. >> isn't that what the point -- isn't that exactly what kislyak does, the fact that he's well known in d.c. circles for trying to pump people for information.

isn't that what intelligence is all about, getting other people's secrets to use them against them? >> pumping people for information is one thing. saying that flynn was put into a position where he was now fully a target for a concerted blackmail attempt is something else. i am troubled and again, i don't know the content of the conversations between general flynn and the vice president, but obviously if the president believed that general flynn had misled him about the communications that he had had with the russians, with the russian ambassador, that is a point of concern because general flynn works for the vice president, he works for the presidt. he has to be fully truful and open with these individuals about his activities, and it appears that he was not and it cost him his job. >> yeah, the consequence for all of that was him being fired. sir, great to have you with me. we appreciate your time and your insight. former congressman pete hoekstra, thank you, sir. >> thank you. my next guest is saying the

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everyone with a pre-existing condition right now covered under obamacare will continue to have cho raj. >> everyone. >> everyone. >> everyone. >> will the rates be more affordable even though there's more flexibility for insurance companies state by state. >> their rates will remain affordable. >> the policy and political debates over health care have ramped upover the past 48 hours. critics of the house health care bill including former administrator for the centers for medicare and medicaid services seeing this as a loss for the american people. andy slavitt is senior adviser

at the bipartisan policy center. i've been reading the op ed you put up in "usa today" about this and really saying is a loss for the american people and not what president trump campaigned on. you did hear what congressman scalise said there. do you think it's easy to make the promise on pre-existing conditions than deliver on it? >> as it turns out, the house gop just changed their website to change the wording of their promise on pre-existing conditions. with all due respect to representative scalise, if he believed that, i think that's not the action they just took. really, if he truly believed that this bill was going to be good for the american public and th0 million-plus people wouldn't lose coverage and rates wouldn't go up, they would have simply waited a few more days for the impartial cbo to give them that evaluation and tell that to the american public.

i think they knew that would be horrific for them. i wouldn't take one pundit's side on this. that's why we have an i'm martial cbo. >> that's what we're waiting on, to see what that score means, where folks will fall. the initial reaction is making it seem as if it's going to be worse when it comes to premium, what folks are going to be covered for. but republicans are now on the record, at least on the house side on this. we know senate republicans as well as democrats are looking to go back to square one on this? do you think -- as you know washington and how it all works, what are the red flags for the sn senate, that they are going to go back to square one on that kind of makes what the house did thrown out the window. >> i think there's a couple of big questions, thomas. the first one is the question of medicaid. i think a lot of attention is being paid now to the fact that

people are going to lose pre-existing protections, they are. 20 million people will lose coverage, they are. insurance premiums will go up by 15%. all that is right. but because the senate, a lot of money flowing the the states to take care of people in the medicaid program, because the medicaid program takes care of about half of the births in this country, a lot of senior care, a lot of people with disabilities, $800 billion plus is going to be cut from medicaid would be incredibly painful to the states. that's going to be their first big issue. the second question is whether or not the things that the republicans in the house voted for, such as the elimination of pre-existing conditions, are not going to be allowed to be voted for. they're going to have to start from square one and try to find something palatable from those parameters. >> when we think about right now as it stands and the house bill

moving forward the way it is say the senate wrap their minds around all this, who are the biggest losers in america based on this? >> so i think -- this is a bill that impacts so many people. half the population has a pre-existing condition. i think all those people are extremely worried. we're all seeing them on twitter and all over the level of energy and intensity is probably higher than even i would have guessed. secondly people who are older, my age, 50, once you get to 50, there's an age tax in this bill that makes the cost of premiums shoot up and tax credits to go down for people with lower incomes. that's going to be very tough to swallow. you very rarely see the patient groups, consumer groups, hospitals and nurses all come out and say this is not good for

the health care system. this is not good for people. i think that's because this affects so many people across so many circumstances. >> it's a big thing to take a swing at and try to reform and repair as opposed to repeal and replace which is what this is trying to say it's doing. andy slavitt, thanks for being with us. democrats think republicans are tone deaf about health care. did their musical message strike the right cord?

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subpoena anyone who doesn't comply. bring in jonathan alter, msnbc analyst, "daily beast" columnist and author of "the center holds obama and his enemies." do you think they will comply? >> if they don't comply, they will be subpoenaed. stone said he would comply. page and manafort are being dodgier but they will have to turn over, you know, their e-mails and other contacts. we'll see where that investigation leads. i think democrats need to be cautious about jumping to conclusions that somehow once they are subpoenaed there's going to be some kind of smoking gun that's going to lead to the resignation or impeachment of donald trump but they will find out more about what actually happened and what these russian contacts -- >> folks need to calm down and

not come up with a firm cloogs and find the facts to fill in to support that. it's got to really be the reverse on this, carrie. we know there's been evidence, the fact that flynn got fired from the trump folks and lied to the vice president about his contacts with sergei kislyakisl the content of the conversation and even the obama team on kislyak to brief flynn. do you feel the trump team really let down flynn and now they have let him get shoved under the bus? >> it's hard to know this. we really do need a lot more information to come out. i agree with you and jonathan that we need more facts and shouldn't jump to conclusions. the trump team, some revelations make it appear as though they were worried he was misinformed or being naive going into these conversations. that's a very different story and different situation than the idea that he was concludlluding

him. i agree we should revisit this thanh topic another time caution we don't have the facts and we need to wait for those to come back. >> another topic year after year, health care for all in the country. now we have the house moving forward with its version of repeal and replace, now moving over to the senate. where do you think it goes from here? is this just a hot potato back and forth? >> no. i actually think those who are being confident that the senate will kill this horrible house bill need to look back alt just a week when people were saying the house wouldn't pass anything. any time there's another step in the process, it builds momentum for a bill. so i think when people are very concerned, those like me who have pre-existing conditions that we could lose our insurance or be forced to pay 20 times as much as we do now, those are very, very legitimate concerns.

now, wouldn't necessarily apply to everybody in every state, but there will be millions and millions of people who if this bill in this form goes through, or even somewhere close to this form, will be thrown into what i call medical apartheid, separate and unequal. the thing that's great about obamacare, it treats everybody equal. it doesn't discriminate against people who have been sick. that's wrong -- >> let me ask carrie really fast. do you think the republicans really performed and provided for themselves a win in this, provided a win for the american poem. >> every person that says thechb helped by obamacare, two say they have been hurt by it. >> that's not true. >> yes, it is. it's a gallup poll. >> that's not true. >> you've got millions of americans who lost their

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