82. this sunday, health care fallout, president trump is not afraid to glout. >> democrats can't stop the obamacare repeal. >> and senators aren't afraid to make predictions, republicans. >>. >> dead on arrival. over in the senate. >> we have the obamacare repeal

vote covered on all sides. and the democrats response with senator diane feinstein. democrats lost the house, after voting for obamacare, and what happens to those who kill it? why u.s. intel believes the russians are at it again. joining me for inside and analysis, rich lowry of the national review. christian welker, nbc news white house correspondent. and matt bai, and e liana johnson. >> this is "meet the press." >> good sunday morning.

it subject often you see the passage of a bill that merely made it through the house. after their health care win, president trump, and house speaker paul ryan were happy to spike the football. even if there is a lot of green grass between them and the end zone. the house handed a bill, not read by most of those who voted for it. and counts among the winners, those with high incomes, wealthy people without pre-existing conditions. the young and large employers. oldser americans, those with pre-existing conditions, those counting on obamacare's benefits. the president as he has done so many times before, proved people wrong.

>> theayes. >> a white house celebration. >> am i doing okay, i am president. do you tbl? >> they vetoed on thursday to scale back health care for millions, bending if not breaking promises mr. trump has made. >> i want to keep pre-existing condition. i think we need it. >> the house bill would allow states to op it out, on rising rates with those with pre-existing conditions. president trump said there will be no cuts, but the first version of the bill, federal funding for medication would drop by $880 billion. president-elect trump promised insurance for everybody. >> i don't care if it costs me votes or not, i am going to take care of everybody.

>>illions will loseealth care, the hou bill eliminates e hlth benefits requirement. meaning insurance companies could chose not to cover mental health, maternity, and health services. >> you will have better health care at a lower cost. >> it ends funding for planned parenthood. they have to wrestle a bill through the senate. some senators say, the house bill falls short. don't support the bill as constructed, and more questions than answers. now with a 13-member senate committee will write a new bill. >> that law can't be changed. >> after this emotional plea. >> no parent should ever have to decide if they can afford to save their child's life. >> with a child born with a

heart disease be able to get he or she can get in that first year of life? i want to pass the jimmy kimmel test. >> taunting republicans on the house floor. >> the political report changed 20 health seats to show new opportunities for democrats. within an hour, the democrat running for the governor of virginia, blaming republicans for crushing affordable healthcare. >> joining me now is the secretary of health and human service, tom price. thank you very much for being with us mr. secretary. >> thank you, so much. good to be with us today. >> good to be with you. talk about the health care bill as passed by the house, the president promised he would take care of pre-existing conditions, critics say, this bill does not.

>> i think it is true that president is fulfilling his promise to the american people to make sure that every american has access to the kind of coverage they want for themselves and their family. not that government forces them to buy, and ensure that those with pre-existing injuries and conditions are covered. covered in a way that they want. not that washington forces them. >> access at what price? are you pricing people out of the market. 84% of those 55 and older, according to your department's own study, vipre-existing conditions, can they afford the price set? states can op it out, there will be no requirement it is affordable. >> we think it will be more affordable. look at the people are talking about. if you have medicare, medicaid, insurance tricare, or through your employer, nonof it affects

you in the pre-existing illness or discussion that we are having. if you do have a pre-existing condition, in the exchange market, many, many people have increasing premiums and deductibles, in an area where it is one insurer offering coverage or some places, none. those can't get any care at all. they may have an experience card, they can't get care. this is a system that not working for patients that is what we are trying to fix. >> let me stipulate, we know in iowa, now in virginia there, are insurance market issues, that could be fixed, stipulate that that still needs to be fixed. what about the issue of pre-existing conditions, 22 major health care groups, let our viewers, 22 groups, ama, doctors, the american lung association, the academy of

pediatrics, the childrens hospital association, 22 group, aarp, nurses, all of them are against the way the house passed this bill. are they wrong? >> well, what i believe, they are not recognizing this is a different and we believe a better way to cover pre-existing illnesses and injury, it allows for everybody to gettet access to the kind of coverage they want. nobody wants folks who have a pre-existing condition not to be covered. we want to do it at a low are price. and see the doctor they want to see, able to go to the hospital they want to go to, the clinic, not that washington forces them to participate n yes, it is a different way. it is a way that we believe to be better and more comprehensivive to get the coverage and care they want. just because we stipulate there is only one insurer or no insurer, that is a major

problem, that is what we are trying to fix. >> you say people are not going to lose what they are getting now. >> on the other hand, this plan, they may five five times more. going in the wrong direction ployees. >> it is the health status s important to preciate. >> raising the cost on the sicker people, to pay for the people who are healthy. >> what we are trying to do is make certain that every person has health coverage. 20 million people in this country right now, said to the federal government, said to the previous administration, nonsense, i am not going to participate. i will pay a fine or get a waiver. that is 20 million who don't have coverage, why don't they and try to fix it. the fact of the matter is, those individuals who are sicker,

older, who are poorer, they will get larger subsidities able to gain the coverage they need and want for themselves and for their family. our desire is to have a system that works for patient, not for government, not fur insurance companies, but for patients. >> we looked at maps for those under the age of 65 with pre-existing conditions, the highest rates of those are in state that is voted for president trump. what do you say to your own voters? >> i say to them, and the president has a commitment to make sure certain they have the coverage they want. this is a different way to do things, there is no way, we believe it is a better way, it puts patients and doctors, in charge of health care, not washington, d.c. this is a change, in how we would imagine to allow for individuals to gain the coverage they want. we understand that it sometimes, change can be disconcerting to

folks, i suggest that list of groups you had up earlier say they oppose it the fact of the matter is, they are not focusing on the kinds of things to improve the system for patients and doctors, not to make it so government or insurance companies are not in charge. >> there was no diversity there. women's health issues will be affected. obama care provides for mammograms, birth control, screenings, all of this under a package, no longer required under the house bill. >> look at that picture. congresswoman, diane black, i was standing next to her. the administrator of csm, standing next to her. >> out of a group of dozens of

people, two or three women? >> these are prominent individuals who are leading, leading in this area of health care. the goal, as i mentioned is to make sure that every american, men, women, rich, poor, old, young, have the kind of coverage that they want for themselves and for their families, not that the government forces them to buy. that is the change. >> l, talk about not only women, but what president promised. i want to play for you what the president promised about medicaid during the campaign. >> there is a percentage of fairly large percentage, who can't afford it. that is wrong. we will take care of that through the medicaid system, we have no choice. we are not going to let people die in the streets. >> medicaid will be cut, they rushed it through before getting the accounting from the

accounting and budgeting office. 880 billion cut from medicaid. that goes against the president's promise not to cut medica medicaid? >> no, it says there is a better way to do things. imagine a system, if you have insurance through your employer, you fall on tough time, and fall into the medicaid market, that transition is seamless. if you go from medicaid to employer sponsored insurance, that is seamless. medicaid to the individual market or exchange market. right now, there are holes in these thing, we don't want to -- >> you found 880 billion, isn't this just another way to come up with a trillion dollars, the president said as much on fox business, you are finding a trillion dollars in order to pay a tax cut that is revenue neutral? >> in the medicaid system right

now, 1 out of every three physicians in this nation, who should be seeing in patients in med cades are not. we are as a society, ask why is that case and fix that the medicaid population is four demographic iblgs, seniors, disabled, healthy moms and kids. what the federal government stipulate, they need to be cared for in the same manner as the seniors and the disabled. that makes no sense to anybody. we are trying to improve the medicaid system, make it more responsive to patients, there are more resources to be able to utilize for the disabled and the aging. that makes a lot of sense. >> a lot of people don't understand how taking $8,000 billion out of a system, out of something s going to put more resources in it let me ask you a final question about health

care, the offense of drug policy, drug control. we have an opyoid emdemic in this country. >> the president has a commitment to making certain that we fight the opiod crisis in this country. $485 million in grants to states just two weeks ago. moving around the country, this coming week to go to states where we want to make certain they are allowed and have the resources to address this crisis. this is a scourge in our country. 33,000 deaths last year, due to overdose, we cannot tolerate that. and the department of health and human services have it as a priority. whether it is through a department, agent, government, i don't think the american people

care. what they care about is that we are addressing the crisis in the most aggressive and effective manner possible. >> we will have to leave it there. >> thanks. >> the house health care bill does face an uncertain future in the senate. republicans can afford to lose only two votes, there is a gap between what hard liners want, and what the rest will accept. >> joining us on meet the press, start with something that secretary price said. he will improve medicaid by cutting, at least in the first version of this bill. we don't have a score from the congressional budget office, how much would be cut from this bill. $880 billion, making it better? the president doesn't propose something he likes like the military, will be made cutting almost a trillion from the military. he wants to spend more. >> we were on the path to spend

a trillion dollars, the only addition that is significant health care coverage, under obamacare are people who got expanded medicaid as part of that the system is not working. the individual market is collapsing and has been. >> why not fix those market issues? why not do the fixes, rather than taking medicaid and slashing it, and addressing pre-existing conditions by basically saying it is not a requirement. insurers can price it out of the market for people? >> the goal should be to include people in the system that aren't in it yet. to give more choices to create competition. i don't talk to anybody that doesbelieve there is a way that is better than the current system, for those who have pre-existing conditions continue to be covered, and the states to have more options is a good thing, not a bad thing. every state is different. it is a huge budget issue in

every state. people need something like a medical home, you have a place to go. coverage is different than access. and both in the insurance access where, a lot of people have coverage, nobody has a place to go, the deductible is so high. or in medicaid, doctors don't want to take medicate patients, those are the problems we should be solving. >> some of your republican senators spoke out against it rob portman, the house bill does not do enough to protect the population. >> lindsey agreement says, it has to be looked at with suspicion. >> not dead on arrival, not taking the house bill, and bringing it immediately to the floor. taking what the house was able to do, looking at that carefully, and coming up with what senate things the senate can do. this is the way legislation used to be pass the.

a house bill, a senate bill. the intricacies of what they are doing, and come up with a bill that can go to the president's desk. i hope that is what we do here. >> read what you are, woing on, and actually get a congressional budget score. the house didn't wait. >> from the house perspective. they added a few things late. the senate will have to have the kind of score they need to move it forward. the senate will be looking at this to see what they can do, look at what house did. look what we can do to improve that in our view. and then, see if that is a bill in all likelihood you have to go back to the house, here is what you think, here is what i think, get more access, solve the problems of obamacare. a third of the counties in america have one insurance company willing to offer insurance on the market.

one company, something, dramatically wrong with the current system. i saw one of my colleagues said this system isn't working. maybe willing to be part of a repeal and replace strategy, we need to hear and see more of that. >> will you be able to do something that satisfies susan collins on planned parenthood issue, and the caucus that you have something that goes to a conference committee with the house. >> 50 senator and the vice president, or 60 senators for even more broad base change. we should be looking at both options. >> the senate intelligence committee, you serve on the committee, it has now written letters asking for a number of former associates republican operatives involved in the campaign, like paul mannafort, the campaign manager, asking what their contacts with the

russians were. are you going to get to the bottom of this possible russian connection that fbi started -- >> there is no question we had russian interference with the elections, like in france and germany. russians trying to interfere. we have to look at that, that is one issue. and one way that better prepares us for 2018, 2020. and in terms of bringing everybody in that should be talked to. the senate intelligence committee is the one committee asked to reach conclusions here. that conclusion needs to include talking to anybody a reasonable person thinks we should talk to. looking at anything that a reasonable person thinks we should have looked at. and biparsan consensus, the indication that that process, now, bringing individuals in, after a tremendous background

effort to see what we should be asking is happening. >> and sally yates, testifying tomorrow, what do you want to hear from sally yates. there is indications that trump transition was warned about mike flynn, the connections and the conversations with the russian ambassador. >> in terms of the transition team, and the new national security advisor. >> what was particularly wrong, general flynn not being truthful about the substance of what he said. and the campaign was apparently, the transition, rather, was apparently concerned about that early on. it appears they should have been. >> the fact that you say that russians were involved. the president has still not accepted that reality, why want? >> i think that the president, i don't know what the president's view of this would be. i haven't talked to him about

it. >> everything said publicly, is to deny it and call it a witch hunt. >> what he is talking about is collusion. we are going to determine if there was any or not. where the facts lead us. i am not sure that there is any reason for the president to believe that there was collusion in his campaign. the president has to understand at this point, the russians were doing things to both increase their influence, the russians couldn't be happier, to have us on a sunday, when the french elections are going on. again, the russians have figured to punch above their weight. this is a country that struggles economically. resents the current role in the world that it has now. and getting involved in the elections is one way to re-assert itself in ways it is not otherwise able to. it is unfortunate for any

democracy, like it has been for a decade in europe. the world should have been more concerned about this, when the little countries were fighting back, as the russians tried to involve themselves in their elections. >> thank you very much for being with us on "meet the press." democrats say they have no intention of passing a bill -- will the same thing happen to house republicans after voting to repeal obama care. >> one democrat is using it to barb republicans. u could use the savings to buy a decent suit. i got this jaime. ♪ you could throw shade all day ♪ ♪ but it'll never land ♪ 'cause we got the name your price tool ♪ in the palm of our h-a-a-and ♪

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kristen, the democrats are celebrating, they are seizing the advantage, putting out ads already. are they jumping to conclusions too quickly? the republicans know how to message, you heard tom price on message, we're improving it, it's failing. that's what they're going to say. >> no doubt they're jumping the gun, trying to capitalize on this moment. one democratic group preparing to put out a six-figure ad buy tomorrow, targeting 24 members of congress. i spoke to one top democratic operative who said the challenge is, they need not to just run against something but for something. republicans are gearing up for a top of fight. mitch mcconnell telling his team, let's bear down and get to work and they'll be targeting the preexisting conditions, andrea, they'll change that. >> matt bayh, look at what

republican congressman mo brooks had to say about the health care vote. >> you're talking about a class of people, for whatever reason, either they lack the resources or want to game the system, they've decided not to have insurance. then they get sick and want other people to pay for it. >> so let's talk about this. he also already said the whole problem with people with preexisting conditions, people are sick because they didn't live healthy lives, it's their own fault if they're sick. >> the idea of people having insurance so other people don't have to pay for it is not a new idea, it's the guiding principle behind the obama health care program. we've had three straight presidents where the president has lost either one chamber during their first term, or both, and have lost both chambers during the course of their presidency. we've never had that before in our presidency. so we have a volatile midterm climate every time. that's one problem.

and we have never seen a party try to roll back a major social program on this scale. we don't know what that looks like from a public point of view. when we talk about a messaging perspective, i heard secretary price. it was a lot of good rhetoric. he had very few specifics. it was basically a campaign kind of interview. i think they have to be very, very careful with the unknowns here. it's a very volatile issue and a very volatile political climate. >> i think one of the challenges you're seeing republicans grapple with here is they are trying to do something historic, which is to roll back a social program. the challenge is, they're trying to do that without actually taking anything away from anybody who got something that they now like. that's what you'll see the senate grapple with. i am sort of puzzled by this assumption underlying the conversation that this is supposed to be a political victory for republicans. when you saw democrats pass obamacare in 2010, it was hugely unpopular and they paid an enormous price at the ballot box in 2010.

i think the president, obama at that time, made the calculation that it was worth it because this was something democrats believed in. i wonder if republicans are going into this thinking that there's a price, that it's worth paying a price at the ballot box if this is something they believe in. i don't know that these things are supposed to be cost-free politically. and this is rich, the fact is they're already running into some problems back in the districts. raul labrador on friday was at a town hall meeting, and i think we have a bit of tape of the exchange from the audience when he claimed that this was not going to take anything away from them. >> you are mandating people on medicaid accept dying. you are making -- >> no. you know, that line is so indefensible. nobody dies because they don't have access to health care. [ crowd shouting ] >> you can see why there's

partisanship. >> medicaid is not good health insurance. it's better than nothing but it's harder to prove that than you would think. it provides a better sense of financial security, which is important to people. but it's a system that needs to be reformed. the politics on preexisting conditions are horrible. but it's disproportionate to the nature of the change they're proposing, which is allowing some states to get a waiver on certain conditions, including that you're not going to get charged more if you're continuously covered, states have to have a high risk pool to catch people falling through the cracks. but the politics are so terrible, i wouldn't be surprised if the senate ends up dumping this provision. >> but rich, you've got to be able to pay for that. what's cynical about this bill, and like everybody who voted for it, i haven't read the entire bill, but it's pushing everything to the states. you decide how to get out from under these protections and you figure out how to pay for it. >> you have governors saying, we're not doing that, we're not taking this, and we're not going to go along with these kinds of

cutbacks in medicaid. >> that's right. and you asked the question, is this bill doa in the senate. i am told it's not, but again, the preexisting conditions portion of it may be doa. they think the politics of it are very difficult. they think practice kickly it's very difficult. and even though you hear them say, look, we're not under any deadline, the reality is there is a bit of a deadline, because come september they have to deal with the spending bill, they have to deal potentially with the debt ceiling. i'm told if they don't get something done by july or august, it's going to be much more difficult. >> the president acknowledged this is to create a pool of money for the tax cut, because what they're proposing on taxes is $1 trillion. >> democrats passed a -- basically a transfer program, a social program that was masquerading as an economic growth measure. republicans have passed a pure tax cut that is masquerading as a health care measure. >> that's not a secret. i think that's what republicans said all along. they wanted to tackle health care first so they could then

tackle tax reform. i think, you know, rich's point about medicaid being equated with, you know, good health insurance, is valid. and i think what you're going to see the senate do, the goal is to get people on private insurance which has better proven results. the challenge with the house bill is it supplants medicaid over time with a tax subsidy that doesn't allow people to afford private insurance when it's substituted out. that's really dangerous politics for republicans. >> we'll leave it there for now, we'll pick it up in a moment. later in the broadcast, hillary clinton taking on james comey, vladimir putin, wikileaks, and the media stream media in explaining why she lost the presidential election. but up next, senator dianne feinstein on james comey. and

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welcome back. when fbi director comey testified before the senate judiciary committee this week, he defended his decision to announce days before the 2016 election that the bureau had discovered new clinton e-mails and had reopened its investigation. >> if i were not to speak about that it would be a disastrous, catastrophic concealment. it was incredibly painful choice, but actually not all that hard between very bad and catastrophic. i had to tell congress that we were taking these additional steps.

i prayed to find a third door, i couldn't find it. >> senator dianne feinstein is not at all convinced that there was no third door. and she says the fbi director's october surprise helped sink hillary clinton's campaign. senator feinstein joins me here in washington. i want to talk about what comey said and the sally yates testimony tomorrow. but first, let's talk about health care. they passed it without reading it. but there are legitimate problems -- big problems with obamacare. the fact that some of the insurers, aetna and others are pulling out. virginia is now going to be affected. iowa doesn't have choice. don't they have a point? >> well, there is a point, yes. but i want to say something. 20 million more people are insured post the beginning of obamacare today. this bill which looks like this and is complicated to read. i have been rye thing to read it over the weekend. and this is the manager's package that has the series of

amendments. this is just come over to the senate. it has no score. it's probably one of the biggest bills that the senate will ever consider. we don't know its breadth and depth as analyzed professionally. we don't know its cost as analyzed professionally. and there are a lot of major changes which are going to have a dramatic impact on the health care marketplace which is now one-fifth of the economy. i think i was reading the chief economist at barclay's this morning, andrea, and pointed out that this is going to have major impact on the economy. if it goes through. so i don't want to monopolize. >> no, i'm intrigued by your comments about this. you think that something can come out of the senate. can enough democrats go over or enough moderate republicans be

persuaded that they should vote for something or what has to come out of the bill for you -- >> yeah, first i don't know what the leader mcconnell has in mind. i don't know what the 13 white men when you have five republican women who are excluded from that -- these 13 men are supposed to sit down -- >> you're speaking of the working group. it's all male. >> it's all male. and women's health is a big part of this. and women are a majority of the population. and their health interests deserve to be contemplated in any reform. any position is -- my position is and i believe this is the democratic position, don't repeal obamacare. take those sections like the individual market, which has some problems with it and deal with it and fix those sections. and it can be done. i'm really very worried that in the rush to judgment we create a major health care problem for

people. and we lose a lot of jobs in so doing and we create a whole atmosphere of unpredictability. >> i want to ask you about the fbi director's testimony. he said he was mildly nauseous at thinking he had impacted the election, but he thought he had no choice. you disagree. >> i disagree with him. i think you look before you leap. the fbi has a policy of not announcing october surprises. this was 11 days before the election. what he could have done is said, let's just be sure. let's get a search warrant. let's look at the weiner computer and let's see what there is. and if he did that, he would have the information that, well, there's no need for another investigation. we have all of this material already. 3,000 e-mails, 12 classified. we have already looked at them. so there was no need. so what he did was authorize

what i believe to be a needless investigation, 11 days which i have no doubt and i believe that the clinton campaign's polls show this that it made a big difference. and the fbi should not do that. so i don't understand the march to do this immediately when he could have gotten the search warrant first. >> what do you want to hear from sally yates? she was fired, she was the acting attorney general. she's going to be testifying tomorrow morning for the first time in public. >> well, sally yates is very much respected. she's a professional. she's not a politician. she's spent a lot of time in the department. she is very widely respected. and she apparently has some information as to who knew when. that she is willing to share and that would be what she knew

about michael flynn's connections to russia. and exactly what she knew they were. i don't want to in any way say that i know what she's going to say because i don't. but there are so many questions here as to who knew what when, what was done with this. why did russia that always responds to sanctions, when president obama, png'd 35 russian -- >> kicked them out of the country. >> right. immediately. there was no response from russia, and that in itself was a message because russia always responds. this time they didn't. what changed? that's what we need to know. >> what we now know is that the trump transition was warned about michael flynn. why was he hired then as the national security adviser?

>> i wouldn't know the answer to that. >> does it raise suspicions in your mind? >> it raises suspicions because he was fired by jim clapper from his job running an intelligence agency. signal. when i saw a three star general shouting lock her up, i thought oh, my goodness. this would never happen. never happened before. this is a three star general of the united states military doing this with no evidence. and it made a big impression on me. >> dianne feinstein, we have to leave it there. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you for coming in on "meet the press." when we come back, republican members of the house celebrated the passage of the obamacare dad like, how many more weeks are you going to be using my car? until my insurance claim goes through this is our car. mr. parker, my parents have allstate.

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and welcome back. it's "data download" time. every political action has a reaction usually from the voters themselves and that goes for the republican vote to repeal and replace obamacare. so how will both yes and no votes play in republican districts across the country? currently, there are 23 republican house members in districts carried by hillary clinton. nine of those voted no on the health care bill and 14 voted

yes. and of those yes votes seven were from the state of california alone. a state clinton won by more than 4 million votes. what's more, a 41 competitive republican districts, 31 members voted yes while ten members voted no. this could be an incredibly risky move for some of those house republicans whose districts are far more moderate than the average gop district. by one measure since the health care vote, the cook report has already moved 20 house seats currently held by republicans one step in the democrat's favor, including some tossups. one of them mike kaufman didn't vote for the bill, but the cook report believes the mere hesitation will hurt him. a lot of republicans seem to be keenly aware of the political dangers this bill poses. of the 20 gop no votes, 14 come from suburban districts including four from the greater philadelphia area. and virginia congresswoman

barbara comstock from suburban washington, d.c. the inability of this health care bill to win support from these districts may be another sign the republican party is struggling to find policies that appeal to those politically valuable areas. when we come back, it's "end game" time. the latest election hacking being tied to russia and the real reason that hillary clinton said she lost the 2017 presidential election. >> coming up, "meet the press" "end game" and "postgame" are allergies holding you back? break through your allergies. try new flonase sensimist instead of allergy pills. it's more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist you may not even notice. using unique mistpro technology, new flonase sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms. most allergy pills only block one. and six is greater than one. break through your allergies. new flonase sensimist on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree.

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"meet the press" "end game" is brought to you by boeing. always working to build something better. >> and we're back with the panel. hillary clinton this week in her most candid expression of why she thinks she lost. let's watch. >> did i make mistakes, oh, my gosh, yes. but the reason why i believe we lost were the intervening events in the last ten days. you know if the election had been on october 27th, i would have been your president. it wasn't. it was own october 28th. there was a lot of funny business going on around that. >> there was a lot of funny business, matt bai. >> yeah. i'm not sure what the utility of a continuing to -- of her continuing to talk about this. look, i never lost a national election so i'm sure it's a -- >> one that you thought -- >> i'm sure you could, matt. >> i'm sure you could if you try. >> i appreciate that compliment. >> one that you thought you were going to win. >> even harder to figure out. >> and to trump. >> and i agree with joe biden and what david axelrod said on

this. she did not lose because of comey's press conference. comey put the attention back on her. he may have made it more of a referendum on her. reminded people she was running for president. by all rights it should have been that referendum all along. she ran out a certainout operation, not a campaign. she did not run an assertive campaign. argumentative campaign. she hoped her opponent would implode and spare her having to do that. that was a huge gamble that's why she lost. >> well, you were there. we were on every minute of that campaign. she points to nate silver and others that the polling was going all the way up. and then 11 days out comey and it starts to plateau and go down. >> when you think of the momentum i think everyone agrees there were a whole host of reasons she lost, her message and not campaigning enough in michigan. and wisconsin. i was on the plane with her that day. her campaign had just announced

she'd expand into arizona a traditionally red state. she was going to actually visit arizona. and then moments later on the plane, she learned the campaign learned the press corps learned about this comey revelation. you could feel the momentum -- in a single moment. >> trump said that the election would be rigged if he lost and democrats recoiled from this. but it's been rigging arguments almost every single day. yes, she was vulnerable to any number of intervening events in the last ten days because this election was so close and it was so close because her campaign was so uninspired and basically incompetent. >> what's amazing to me is that, you know, these were supposedly her most candid remarks but she sounded like a broken record since the election about why she lost and i think proved and driven home the point of why she lost the election. she sounds terrible. but trump also has continued to talk and talk and talk about why

he won the election. driving home the point that he won the election. they both remain in a state of shock. trump that he actually won. and clinton that she actually lost. so they continue to talk about it. i do think the country at this point is still sort of grappling with the new political reality. and the changing political -- >> it's extraordinary that everyone who votes the oval office lately, you have seen the pictures, the president is handing out the electoral map to try to offset and deflect in the fact that he lost the popular vote. >> pointing out the flaw -- >> because the job is a lot harder than he thought. >> i think he had a panic period and then i think the first 100 days which we keep talking about was more of a traditional transition, okay, how do you do this? i think we're just starting to get a sense of the trump presidency because of that jolt of him winning the election. to him too. >> and kristen, sally yates is going to testify tomorrow. there's a lot of shadows hanging

over this white house. what do we think is going to come out of this testimony? >> well, it's going to be extraordinary, andrea. it will be the first time that we hear sally yates talk about this. of course there's been so much reporting. the anticipation is she's going to say that she warned the trump white house days before flynn was actually fired, that he may have had an inappropriate conversation with the russian ambassador. but just how loud was that alarm bell, i think that's one of the questions that a lot of folks want answered. and on the other side i think the trump administration is bracing to paint this in political terms i am told. they're going to say, hey, if this was such a big problem why did she just keep it to that conversation? why didn't she speak out more publicly? so i think you're going to see a very fierce push back. this is an administration that wants to turn the page and they want to be focused on the health care victory and moving forward and russia continues to overshadow. >> we have to leave it there. you have the last word, kristen welker. that's all for today.

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