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behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons, into a world of chaos and danger. now the scenes you've never seen. built in 1852 and home to california's death row, san quentin state prison was bursting at the seams due to overcrowding. when we shot our extended stay series, san quentin had a program designed to discourage troubled teens.
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through the program, they shed their experience with teenagers who already had run ins with the law. >> close the gate. >> what we need you to understand, you in san quentin this morning. you are in a place no kid should ever want to be in. you should be out playing in the park. you here because of something you did. >> what is your name? >> angel. >> angel? >> yeah. >> how old are you? >> 13. >> 16. >> jonathan, i'm 16, too. >> you have the opportunity to leave out of this place and never come back. >> let me introduce myself to you guys. my name is david. i'm about to be 25 years old. i have been in prison since i was 15 years old for murders. >> david monroe is serving 15 years to live after having pled
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guilty to murder. >> i banged before. i been on the streets before. i'm from stockton. i did it all, all of it. everything you did, everything you did, we did it. it's just about us not scolding the kids. it's not a scare straight, but we try to give you the communication like look thrks is what i did and this is where it got me. this is the trophy i tried to earn. do you want to come to jail at 15 years old? do you want to come to prison and be on the yard? stand-up. let me see how tall you are. this was me. >> my size? >> this was me when i came to prison. i was 15. they look at me like, are you serious? 15 years old, they locked you up? can they do that? >> at 15, monroe's involvement in gang violence changed his life forever. >> they say you have a gurney,
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you going to carry a gun. >> having fun talking. >> i seen somebody walking by. a asked questions about his gang affiliation, if he had a problem with my color red. he said yes. me trying to prove myself to my peers, i'll show you i'm down, i reacted and shot him six times. i murdered him for a color. i never planned for his future or committing attempted murder. it came about by the behavior and lifestyle we chose. say you do a robbery, what do you think is going to happen? >> you go to juvy. >> what about your mom? >> she's going to be sad and cry. >> you shaking your head. you know it can happen to your mother, too? >> yeah. >> if y'all know this, why do you put yourself in a situation?
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>> maybe you have to take a risk sometimes. >> take a risk sometimes? >> yeah. >> that's the part about being a juvenile, you are not thinking about what you are doing. you are trying to be cool and fit in. >> i'm offended by what you said. i put myself in your momma's shoes right now. you gonna sell your mom out. >> it's worth it if you really want it. you take a risk and do it. >> i don't care what you say,itis not worth it. you not paying attention to how you hurting your mom. >> monroe never realized how his crimes would hurt his own mother, until the day he was sentenced. >> the judge said you are a cold-blooded murderer, you are being sent to prison for life. my mom screamed. it was horrible. >> i put my head in my lap and i cried. >> the boys are also given a
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preview of the stark conditions they might face if they ever enter the california prison system. >> i want you to get a good look at this restroom. this is where you are going to use the restroom. look how they take care of this place. do you want to use this restroom? you come to prison, this is what you are putting yourself in. you have no privacy. that's what you are coming to. >> what i got out of it is i don't want to end up in jail. i have to start watching what i'm doing and make better choices. one messed up choice could ruin my whole life. >> the thing i learn is a whole lot of stuff. it ain't a good place to be. >> it has to come within you. you have to change. >> this is for my victim. i can't give him his life back, but i can save somebody else's life because of what i did. i hope this family knows what happened to him is not in vain
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anymore. some people are being saved. >> take care. hopefully we don't see you again. that's the hope, we don't see you again. >> san quentin is one of numerous prisons and jails where inmates and staff provide cautionary tales for troubled youth. at the suffolk county jail in boston, massachusetts, we encountered another program called jailbreak. >> remember, when you visiting here, you are going to get experience of what it's like to be in jail. make sure you take everything out of your pockets. hat. take your hat off. show respect. take everything out of your pockets. >> when we film in a prison or jail, we do our best to be a fly on the wall. in the case of jailbreak, you know, these kids came in and, yeah, they were definitely aware of the camera. >> are you scared? are you scared?
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how about you? >> no. >> you're not scared right now? >> no. >> there's no reason to be scared, to tell you the truth. >> i don't think it was necessarily the camera that affected them in the way they had an attitude or brava toe. i think it was relating to age. >> everybody stand-up. right over there. right now, all you have to do is empty your pockets, take your jacket off. nothing should be around your wrist, in your ears or pockets. everybody over here. put these uniforms on over your clothes. hurry up. >> these kids are from the boston public schools. they were suspended from school because of something that they did. >> tuck your shirts inside. everybody tuck your shirt inside. >> once they have the uniform on and start yelling at them and talking to them in a way they know i'm in control, they don't know what to do so they break down. you are 12 years old, dude!
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12 years old and you want to cut somebody, assault somebody. keep your mouth shut. >> 16-year-old damon pope, however, who recently was caught with marijuana, appeared determined to not break down. >> you are in jail right now. 16. you'll be 17 in a month. you have this attitude like you are too good to be in this place. you are going to run this place. are you kidding me? are you kidding me? you think you're that good? >> tell me about your goals. >> my goals, trying to entrepreneur, you know. possibly take over this jail, you know? be at home like donald trump, collecting money, writing checks, possibly writing you a check. you know? >> that sounds great. >> i tell you what your goals are. get in one of these unit ifs you continue to do what you are doing. in a month. i give you less than that. you are 17 years old. you will not leave. you understand me?
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you will not leave. that's going to happen to you. that's where you are going. everybody arms out, thumbs down. all the way out. i don't have anything for him. a piece of string to tie his arms together. he thought he was strong enough to break that. they are not made for comfort. >> i'm not here -- >> get used to it. >> why are you so rude? >> i don't like punk kids coming to my jail thinking it's cool. >> i don't disrespect you. >> i don't care. keep your mouth shut. that's what i want dwrou do right now, okay. that's what i want you to do right now. pick up your feet and move. this is life you want to have? they are escorted to jail alone. >> are you making your mother proud? >> no. >> are you going to change your ways? >> yes. >> you have a friend coming,
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right? you got a roommate. are you ready for him? oh, you are? you're ready for him? >> take his sneakers off. tough guy. >> the kids meet the inmates. >> smoking weed is going to end you in jail. nts on centurylink to keep their global campus connected. and why a pro football team chose us to deliver fiber-enabled broadband to more than 65,000 fans. and why a leading car brand counts on us to keep their dealer network streamlined and nimble. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink. before fibromyalgia, i was a doer. i was active. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. she also prescribed lyrica. fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves.
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during our extended stay shoot at the suffolk county jail in boston, three inmates preselected by jail staff were about to introduce themselves to four young men. >> the 12-year-old in cell one is here for cutting his teacher. >> what's up? what's up? >> we have two fireworks in school. >> what you in here for?
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>> marijuana in three. [ bleep ]. >> funny, huh? >> and marijuana in four. >> this is a game. you think this is a game? huh? >> one in four is 16, birthday is next month. he's a heart beat away from being in here. >> money and smoking weed is going to end you in jail. either or. take your sneakers off right now. take your sneakers off, mother [ bleep ]. tough guy. they always take their shoes away. we tell them, you come to jail, you're going to lose your shoes. >> take your sneakers off. >> spend your mother's money on weed, huh? >> what you crying for? take that smile off your face. why you crying now? >> how did it feel to you? >> i don't know. >> it didn't scare you?
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>> kind of. >> kind of what? >> kind of scared and all that. just kind of. >> i saw you crying. >> no i wasn't. >> did he cry? >> he did. >> why you crying now? you weren't crying when you cut your teacher. >> you cut your teacher? [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> you ain't getting it. >> this is what you want to come to jail for, right? >> whose sneakers are these? these are yours? i'm keeping them. you can have those. take those. you can have those. these are mine. you want them, come take them. let me see you take them. yeah. that's what happens in here. that's what happens in here. i'll take your [ bleep ], i'll take yours and you won't do nothing about it. you understand? you understand me?
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>> yes. >> i can't hear you. do you understand me? >> yes. >> hurry up, let's go. >> it's not often you see the inmates working together toward a common cause. when the kids were brought to the unit, you could tell everyone was there to put the fear inside them. >> you and me gonna play, all right? >> while the three younger boys seemed shaken at times, 16-year-old damon maintained his nonchalant attitude. >> can you tell me the time? >> why, you got somewhere to go? keep your mouth shut. i don't give a [ bleep ] how much you paid. you are in jail. welcome to jail.
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back to the wall. >> we followed the kids up to the housing unit to see where one of their next bedrooms could be. i think that was one of the scariest parts for the kids, the idea of being locked up inside a cell. >> get in there. welcome home. oh, there's only two beds, you have to share beds. have a seat. make yourself comfortable. that's where you gonna be. you want to cut people, huh? you want to cut people? >> they can't let you out the door when you want to go home. go, i'm going to put you in with them. i'm going to put you in with them. >> he's going in. you want to go in there? huh? let's go. you got a bed for him? >> he's going to sleep with me.
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that's my new -- >> this will be you. this is it. this is you right here. right here. >> that's your bed. >> you have to stay in one room the whole time for every day of the year for how long you're here for. that's crazy. >> everybody else go that way. >> whose sneakers are those? those were yours, right? they are his now. ask him if you can have your sneakers back. you don't want to ask him. grab your shoes. merry christmas, get out of here. >> if they keep doing what they doing, yeah. >> go into the bathroom. you are going to take my uniforms off, fold them and bring them to me. everybody understand, right?
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keep on making those noises. keep making noises. >> i'm not -- >> because you walking out the front door, you won't be back in this place. three weeks, remember that. remember that. he's going to end up in this place if he doesn't change. he's going to end up here. he's so close to 17. at 17, you will end up in this place. he doesn't understand that. he thinks it's a joke and he can do this. >> you are a good dude. you do your job well. >> hopefully i don't have to do my job with you. the other three, i think they learned their lesson. >> pope might have as well. nearly a year after the shoot, he had not returned to the suffolk county jail. coming up, ain't done no
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depending on the inmate, doing time can result in endless boredom or inspire new heights of creativity. a v twin motor. >> this inmate, what only asked to be identified by his nickname lucky, used his time to create intricate models from soap, oil and paper. >> i carve it out. that's the tread of the tire, made out of soap. it takes a long time. i have been doing it for, like six years. it keeps me from being depressed and angry and everything else. >> what do these bikes mean to you? what do they represent?
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>> i don't know. i guess freedom. tough be free to ride them. >> lucky's models were more than a hobby. he made one special bike as a gift for his daughter, who he never met. >> she's 9 years old. she never met her dad. i want to give her something she don't have. >> in some cases, prison sentence allows an inmate to discover a talent he might never have known he had. for clay lopez, a california state prison, corcoran, doing time led him to the harmonica. >> i'm almost 50 years old. i'll be over 50 when i get out, so, i don't have a career or anything, so i thought if i learn to play the harmonica, i can pay my own rent. if i'm sober, i think i'll do
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okay. ♪ >> you can play what you feel without reading music and i've tried to play guitar, piano, all kind of stuff. i never went anywhere. not that i'm going anywhere with this, but i know a few songs, mostly hymnals, gospel songs and a few of my own. >> low e pez was serving a 20 year sentence on 20 counts burglary. it's expo sure to inmates paying life terms. >> i want to do something for the lifers. >> i can sing the last verse and it speaks for itself it goes --
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