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this as they start a new week. according to a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, 29% of the decision to remove comey and 38% disapprove and 32% at the moment, no opinion. when asked my president trump fired james comey they're saying that 46% agree that the president did it to slow down the russia investigation. 38% saying it's because of comey's handling of the clinton e-mail investigation. which is what the president has been saying. but has it hurt the president's approval rating? it now stands at 39%. that's one percentage lower than last month's poll. well within the poll's margin of error so little movement there. that is the back drop of an acti active search of eight names for the next director. let's go to kelly o'donnell, she
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has been following this. weekends have been very busy here, kelly. when we look at the names even merrick garland being added to the list, although we don't know i think whether he's actually been interviewed. >> he has not been interviewed and that was the suggestion of mike lee as an olive branch. he had led the oklahoma city bombing investigation so he has a legit background to be considered. he's not part of the search based on our sources. you had the eight faces on the screen, they draw from a legal law enforcement intelligence and some political experience. and that political piece elective office is a question mark now because of the environment that we're in broadly. and the sort of abrupt nature of the firing of james comey. there are those who believe that given the ongoing russian investigation and the circumstances they're advising the president not to choose someone from an elective office background. a specific partisan.
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that advice coming from the outside is actually coming from a prominent democrat and prominent republican among others. but here's how chuck schumer who's the top democrat in the senate described it and lindsey graham who is running one of the investigations in congress about russia. he's a republican of south carolina. >> i think it's now time to pick somebody that comes from within the ranks or such reputation that has no political background at all. >> certainly somebody not of the partisan background. skernly someone of great experience and certainly somebody of courage. >> reporter: so those are good qualities, experience and courage. but partisan piece, we don't know where the president's thinking is on that. on the list, john cornyn, the number two republican in the senate. he has been a long-time obviously republican senator from texas. but previously had been a judge so he has experience that would be relevant. the other name is former
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michigan congressman mike rogers who served as the chair of the house intelligence committee. at one time was on the short list to be cia director in trump world so his name has been tossed apart before for other high profile openings. each has elective office experience and the other candidates come from different areas. will that hurt them, we don't know. there is suggestions coming from capitol hill, don't know if president trump will take that advice. as best we know he has not conducted any interviews personally yet. timetable for a decision, he said quickly. he didn't put a date on it. didn't say when. perhaps this week is the best we've got right now. richard? >> all right, thank you so much, kelly o'donnell at the white house on a sunday. thank you. new reporting also on this sunday on the president's inner circle. a potential staff shakeup at the white house and it could be a big one, according to axios. they're reporting that the president is considering a huge
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reboot. one that could leave chief strategist steve bannon, reince priebus, counsel dan leggen and sean spicer looking for new jobs. according to the nbc news team, the small inner circle is shrinking further, fuelling suspicion and paranoia inside the west wing. bannon's influence is waning. priebus trying to make sure he's kept in the loop and as for spicer he's been the rumor of persistent firing rumors for months and now his allies acknowledge this time feels a bit different. joining me is darren samuelsson, white house reporter at politico and max cutter in from "newsweek." what are you hearing, dan -- darren in terms of what's happening at the white house? axios has a new reporting that there's a potential huge new reboot. >> yeah. there's been a lot of talk for a while now. a lot of different staffers going back for weeks have been
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sort of on death watch time from reince priebus as you mentioned to steve bannon. a lot of them have seen their stock go down. it's gone back up and down again. this last week and that the president has been on his heels dealing with the comey firing, how the communication staff was put on their heels as well where the president undermined them, talking about on twitter how you can't trust what they're saying and what he's saying is really the final call. all of those are signs that we're going to see a reboot. whether it happens in next week or so before he lives on the big trip i have a hard time seeing that happen. he's looking hard for the fbi director. i would think that first. >> how does that feel different to you this time though? you have seen the discussions happen. you have heard the rumors. is this time -- in terms of defcon level higher by significant amount? >> it feels about the same, honestly. i mean, again, we have been watching patiently, you know, for bannon to be fired.
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we were watching for reince priebus in the early going to be ousted when the health care bill collapsed. it urge a bit of caution. this isn't going to happen as quickly as it sounds. main it won't be as big as being reported today. a lot of constituencies would be satisfied as he hires new people. keep that in mind. ivanka and jared kushner are part of the inner circle. >> max you have been saying, you have to understand this because of the way that this administration and this president operates, traditionally is he likes to say, hey, there's all -- the apprentice theory, that he likes to see folks out there and feel that challenge. feel like they could be cut at any moment. it works to his benefit. >> richard, this is a president who talks about polls and ratings and still is talking about the votes from november so clearly he cares about the public perception.
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surely he does want the public to think this is a white house in disarray, however, it gets to the point that we've watching the apprentice. he tends to tease out the firings or the hirings, whether it's from him or surrogates. you know, this started during the campaign when he released a document talking about the 21 supreme court nominees who he could -- you know, name. his short list. so we've got this during the campaign. we heard it a month or two ago even with former fbi director comey. he was saying it's not too late to fire comey. his words were it's going to be interesting. we'll see what happens. he was teasing it out. so he doesn't seem to be teasing this round, this reporting this morning out that way, but it's still in that model. >> ratings are different than approval ratings here, max. >> right. >> look at the ratings of watching or following someone on twitter and the reporting now at least is that from old long time
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friends, from those folks that he calls late at night after -- if you will the white house has the lid on and things have shut down, that he's getting advice to go big. and that might be a different sort of thematic at least this time. >> yes. but even this, we have heard before we heard that there was going to be a big shakeup after the -- i believe it was after the health care bill initially did not pass. we heard this after the syria missile incident. this happened. we heard it during the campaign. so we have heard kind of this big talk before. i think a lot of voters ares find that very entertaining. of course, as your own polls are showing, it is negatively impacting the -- his polling. >> yeah. they do not equal each other. >> right. >> folks watching versus support. darren in one of your latest articles, you have said hey, if your suggestion or indmation in the market, lawyer up, if you're
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in the white house and you're involved in the day to day, why? >> this is serious stuff. we see grand jury subpoenas going to associates of michael flynn. we have the senate intelligence committee also subpoenaing michael flynn. we know that there's an ongoing and active fbi investigation and when you do that, you do a lot of fact checking interviews. you talk to people. you ask them, you know, the story behind the story. so that means that white house staffers, people who worked on the campaign now as president trump intoned last week maybe he fired jim comey a lodge time before he -- he had the idea a long time over the russian investigation. that brings a lot of staffers into play who might know the who, when, where, why and how. and the reason for the lawyers is oftentimes it's really -- you know, the washington axiom it's not the crime that's the problem, but the cover-up. it's the way that you explain or you trip up or perjure yourself or you find yourself in the obstruction of justice situation. looking back in that story that
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you pointed out there, we talked to the people from the watergate and the valerie plame and whitewater investigations and people end up getting indicted because they made a mistake. they forget about a meeting that they were supposed to have or they destroy a document they weren't supposed to destroy. that's why you need, you know, some legal counsel to advise you what to say, what not to play. >> plan early is what you're saying. >> exactly. >> to you, max, if that does happen, if that is the suggestion that is well taken by the white house staff. does a reboot remove that risk because clearly -- and at the same time, give the restart that the president may want right now? because we have seen it in previous administrations. >> i think that's what president trump would be hoping with that sort -- >> with this president will it work? >> right. i think anyone who was part of the issues would then be part of any sort of investigation or any sort of legal fallout that would continue whether or not they're on white house staff. >> all right.
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max, thank you. darren, you both have a good sunday. north korea also a big story today. firing off another missile test last night. thought to be a new type of intermediate range projectile. it was fired from the northwestern which of kusong. it reportedly travelled about 430 miles before dropping in the sea of japan. it was aiming closer to russia than japan, actually. missile experts said that's far enough to reach the u.s. military bases on guam. that's america's most furthest west base. the timing comes justs day after the swearing-in of the new south korean president moon jae-in on wednesday who called the action a reckless provocation and promised a decisive response. stopping cyber attacks around the world. the one thing that investigators now know after stopping a strike that struck more than 150
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we're in the face of an escalating threat. the numbers are going up, i'm worried about how the numbers will continue to grow when people go to work and turn the machines on monday morning. >> that was the director of europe poll's cross border police agency discussing friday's unprecedented global cyber attack. the numbers are quite large. 150 countries affected. 200,000 people affected. thousands of businesses. it was 100,000 i believe organizations all said. they're all disrupted by a piece of software that says you better give me money, otherwise you
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won't get your data. >> of course there are amounts that have been demanded in this case relatively small amounts. $300, rising to $600 if you don't pay within three days. remarkably few payments so far that we have noticed as we're tracking it. so most people are not paying this. >> cyber security researchers in the uk and the u.s. discovered a kill switch that stopped the spread of the virus, but the investigators fear there could be another wave of attacks on monday when businesses and people work willing turn on that switch and go to work. for now, more on that. we are joined by john henry, president and chief security officer at crowd strike and an msnbc contributor. thanks for being here with us today. what is this -- all right. it starts with wannacry code. what is this? >> ransom ware is a particular time of malware that actually when it's deployed on a computer encrypts all of the files on
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that computer, rendering it inoperable or inaccessible. for the operator to get access back to the files they have got to -- they have to pay a ransom. this is the modern day equivalent of a kidnapping or an extortion that someone is holding your files for ransom rather than a person. >> is this the biggest and the largest of this type of thing before this ransom ware, wanna cry stuff? >> i think it probably is. certainly in recent times. back in the early 2000s was saw the large scale cyber attacks and this particular one, because of the way that it's spreading not only is it spreading through traditional infection where you might open up a pdf file or quick a clink, but it's spreading through an exploit in microsoft where allowing for file sharing to occur across domains. that's why you're seeing these attacks in hundreds of countries because they're hitting multinational corporations that
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have computers spread out all around the world. >> so should people not turn on their computer until their i.t. department says it's okay? >> i think that's a good practice. what happened is a lot of these computers that are being infected have failed to patch the flaw in the microsoft operating system. if they turn on their computers monday morning, the code executes without the flaw being remediated they'll infect themselves. they have to have that patched otherwise they're going to find themselves in a pretty bad place, richard. >> so it comes up on screen. you better pay otherwise i'm not going to give you back your data. you pay through bitcoin. a lot of critics of bitcoin say this is why it's not good. >> they're using bitcoin because of the ability to remain anonymous. in the past what we have seen is actual money exchanges through western union and other sorts of
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bank account deposits, but those can be tracked. using bitcoin the actors or the attackers are able to hide where they're located. they're able to remain anonymous. and that allows them to continue this type of activity. >> all right. sean henry, thank you as always, my friend. >> thanks, richard. changing times could mean changes at your local dmv. the debate to recognize people from all walks of life. and also calling the firing of james comey a constitutional crisis is that really the case? we'll talk to a presidential historian who predicted that donald trump would win his presidency and his thought on what that is, constitutional crisis. (vo) pro plan bright mind
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if he appoints somebody who is perceived to be a crony, this will become a major constitutional crisis. >> it is a looming constitutional crisis. >> a couple of your democratic colleagues senate and house have called what we're in right now what happened today a constitutional crisis. that's a heavy term. do you agree with it? >> i think it's the appropriate term. this is very similar to the saturday night massacre during the nixon administration. >> there you heard it. the towards constitutional crisis have been used a lot this past week. all after president trump's firing of jim comey, the fbi
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director. the president's mentioning russia in that interview including the firing, but what defines a constitutional crisis? fivethirtyeight.com says five ways that a scandal can reach being called that. number one if the constitution does not say what to do. if the constitution's meaning is in question. third, if it says what to do but that's not politically feasible. or finally, if the institutions themselves fail along the way. it says comey's firing can fall loosely into three of those four categories. the civil war it notes easily became a constitutional crisis. by their definition. but the head of the national constitution center says, even the impeachments of andrew johnson and bill clinton could hardly meet those scenarios. joining us now, allan lichtman from american university.
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this is something you know well, my friend. allan, first off, the definition that 530 put out, is that the way you would teach it? >> well, a little bit. maybe the last one. look as i point out in my book "the case for impeachment" you have a constitutional crisis when our institution -- our democratic institutions are being threatened and our checks and balances aren't working. now, the framers understood that a rogue president could crash through our checks and balances and in their wisdom they provided an ultimate safeguard to avoid a constitutional crisis. and that is a constitutional, peaceful remedy, the remedy of impeachment. it is time to begin the impeachment study.
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not a prosecutor who would serve at trump's pleasure and they take years to do their work and i would say to president trump if you are telling the truth, and there is nothing to any of these allegations against you, then come clean to the house judiciary committee and encourage all of members of your team to testify under oath. release fully all material including any white house tapes if they exist. >> so allan, what you're saying here then is a special prosecutor no that's not what you would want looking at history and the precedence thereof. you would instead like to see the impeachment process begin because that would satisfy and avoid what's called a constitutional crisis. >> absolutely. a special prosecutor might do nothing more than delay the constitutional crisis. nixon fired his special prosecutor, which is what the saturday night massacre was all
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about. we were lucky to get a second one who was willing to zealously pursue the investigation. they take years to do their work. they only focus on the criminality not necessarily abuse of power. >> how close are we to the constitutional crisis? far away, pretty close? >> i think we're at the beginning of a constitutional crisis. it's not just the firing of comey and all that goes with it. that suggests there may be probable cause for obstruction of justice. let's look at other things. the likely collusion between the white house and representative nunes to derail the congressional investigation. undermining checks and balances. if it is true that trump asked director comey to pledge personal loyalty to him, that also edges up to obstruction of justice. let's not forget throughout this process, the white house has not come clean. they have engaged in a nixon type cover-up. deny. delay.
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deceive. above all, deflect. then when you call it oh, say it any contact with the russians was innocuous and the attorney of the united states was lying to the senate until he was caught. >> i can listen to you for a long time and we'd laugh to take any of the courts you might teach at the current moment. >> you're welcome any time. >> put a lot of meat on that bone for us. professor allan lichtman thank you so much. >> take care. oregon could become the first state in the country to offer a gender neutral driver's license. this change if approved follows the history making case of army veteran jamie shoop. shoop's birth certificate reads male. shoop did not feel comfortable identifying as either male or female. so shoop first transitioned to female. now has transitioned to what is called nonbinary and shoop going on further, going to court to me ticks for that very designation
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of nonbinary getting that on to driver's licenses. a judge ruled in shoop's favor last year, paving the way for the department of motor vehicles to explore the x-option for residents. joining me is a reporter for nbc out, our new vertical here at nbc news and msnbc. thanks for being here right now. >> thank you. >> did we -- mary, when we look at this designation as it moves forward for shoop and that's the case that so many are focused on now has this definition been used in other places other than driver's license? >> well, the -- what's happening right now is the historic moment in u.s. history. we never had a legal -- legally a gender other than male or female. we have people who identify as other than male or female who fall into the third sex category. but this is first state in the u.s. to offer the option to have
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your identify document say "x" rather than "m" for "f." that would give people the option to have driver's license or an i.d. that accurately reflects their gender. >> what's the argument against it that's being said by critics? >> well, there's not that much of an argument against it in oregon. the last i talked with david house of the oregon department of transportation was on friday. he told me at this week's hearing in portland and last week's hearing in eugene, oregon, the only oppositional argument was a couple of people asking about how much it's going to cost. but other than that really no one has an issue with it which is kind of incredible. so in -- if everything goes as planned on june 15th, the oregon transportation commission will vote to make this change. and then starting july 3rd which is the first monday in july you'll be able to go into the dmv anywhere in the state of oregon and get an i.d. that says
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"x." >> how many folks here would this affect? this designation, either in oregon or across the country and what would be the cost if we have any understanding for the logistics behind it really. >> well, the cost is actually pretty small. when you're looking at a statewide bureaucratic change, it's costing the department of motor vehicles only $39,000. >> $39,000? >> just for the department of motor vehicles. a change like this encompasses so many different statewide bush confederate -- bureaucratic agencies. i think for the oregon state police i think the cost is $100,000. the most expensive one is the oregon department of corrections. it's costing them about $300,000 to make the change. but all of those agencies together it's going to be less than half a million dollars. >> all right. mary, thank you so much. we'll watch. it's upcoming in just weeks. so mary emily o'hara, thank you,
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attention to the campaigns they saw the fights at the rallies. saw the rise of the alt-right and white supremacist groups standing up for donald trump but i talked to folks all across the country, if there was a time to protect yourself it's now. let's take a listen. everything's birthed from a foundation. and that's the difference between black and white. all we knew was the white man had the gun. if we had it, we had to hide them. because there were times where they did not allow us. the system did not allow african-americans to even possess them. so now we're catching up and that's really what we're playing right now -- catch-up. >> while no one keeps track of gun sales by race, firearm dealers across the nation have reported a rise in the number of african-americans buying guns since the election of donald trump. >> racism is alive and well in the u.s. of a.
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and mr. trump's election had a lot to do with race. it was already there. it just brought it to the head and now we're seeing the results of it with the guns and more people arming themselves. >> who here is like -- had zero experience with shooting? all right. >> the concern over safety and security is so personal that fellowship church of god now offers safety courses for gun owners. pastor jones is one of the first students. >> people feel like they don't have a voice in the government and that the government is changed to a point where it doesn't care about protecting them. it cares about something else completely. and another group of people and so when you have that, you're going to have people losing confidence in police protection, losing confidence in their political structure. >> when we're talking about
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though dealing with the police, don't mention the scary g-word of gun. use words like i'm licensed to carry. this is not about your rights. this is about your survival. just that simple. >> we are legitimate members of this community. and not all the time do others always recognize that. they talk about martin luther king himself, he applied for a conceal carry license. many civil rights organizations carried firearms for protection. the black panthers were some of the reasoning behind some of these gun laws that were put into place. because we were utilizing our second amendment rights. we have been a part of this
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community for a very long time. we just haven't been a huge voice. that's what we're claiming right know. we're claiming our voice back. >> i thought i had more than i thought. >> many of jones' students are women. >> there it is. don't go fast. go easy. >> i'm not a novice to guns. i mean, i had a gun before. but now it's been 25 years and i haven't had one. but with the flavor of the way that things are going right now, i'm not comfortable anymore. now with social media, we're seeing things that are happening to people, so it would only be wise that i do something to protect myself. >> a frightening call from her daughter after donald trump's election convinced green to buy a gun. >> as soon as he came in one of the things i was faced with i have a daughter at cincinnati university who went outside the
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next day and she found people on the campus passing out documents so you could sign up to be a white nationalist. and for her, being raised in the environment where her mom is half white and half black, it's like we don't deal with racism. now she's faced with it. and it's been very hurtful to see some of the things she's had to deal with it so it's a little scary right now. ♪ >> any great move in the black community has always began in the church house. all the way back from slavery. >> racially motivated church attacks like the one in charleston, south carolina, which left a parishioner and eight dead has caused some to pray for peace while packing pistols in the pews. >> there are some that have mental problems and they are
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going after churches. they feel it is a vulnerable place, a place where there will be no retribution, but times are changing. you just can't come up in churches anymore and attack churches no more. don't expect that you may get some push back. some people say god is only a god of love. no, god was a god of war. god ask a god of vengeance. very few people like to talk about god in his totality. god took judgment. several times. he's told his people to protect yourselves. he told them to look out for the enemy. so we have no problem with that when people come and say, oh, the church -- no, the god that i serve was a god of wrath, vengeance, protection. watching out for his own. >> tremayne lee, an interesting segment of our american population here. how are they being talked about within the context as gun owners there as you're reporting on in the context of the nra? >> tell you what, richard. the folks i spoke to said that
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the nra leadership, the president down, there's an honest effort to kind of bring new people into the fold. but many say when they go to gun shows, when they go to gun shops, to the ranges they'll see confederate flags hanging on the wall. they'll see targets with colin kaepernick's face on it as a target. so it's still a group that wants to be embraced. they say they're as american as everyone else, they hold their second amendment rights dearly and still a long way to. >> i want to get to this because you were doing such great reporting on ferguson, but your stuff has been specifically within the recent days -- folks on edward crawford that reportedly committed suicide. the second prominent protester now dead. what are you finding out on that? >> you know what, there's a dark cloud hanging over that city after season after season after protest and rebellion and taking to the streets and holding truth to power. as the media like malls we go into brighter lights now.
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everyone has left the city. there are so many people still fighting there on the ground. and have a young man in darren seals, shot and killed, found in the burning car and crawford apparently dead from the suicide, but it seems inexplicable that a young man who emerged as a leader and a voice in the protest is dead. some people have conspiracy theories that people are picking people off. the loudest voices are getting snuffed out. on the other hand, this is a place that's got a very troubled past. very troubled present. and the weight and pressure of being a star in the movement and being the standard-bearer for a movement, some folks say many are depressed, they turn to each other for help because there's too much pressure for them to bear. >> nbc's tremayne lee, thank you for your reporting. >> thank you. on this mother's day, two women will tell us what they're doing to stop gun violence on the streets of chicago and the personal story of how they got involved. stick around. 's that? p3 planters nuts, jerky and seeds. i like a variety in my protein.
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today we turn to the mothers in chicago what they're doing is taking a bold step here to stop the violence in their communities. the group mothers against senseless killings patrol the streets of chicago. they wear these, as you can see, bright pink t-shirts on those t-shirts i had reads, moms on patrol. and their mission, to help save the lives of children lost to gun violence. there are many of them. so far this yeeshgs the homicide total in chicago aloernne, 207 deaths. last year, 700 mothers lost their loved ones. those numbers bring in the average now to at least 50 killings per month, substantial numbers. these mothers want to stop. joining me now from claug is tamara manessa and maria pike, a mother who lost her son to gun violence. i thank you both for speaking us to day. on these walks, as you're out there wearing these bold
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t-shirts, mom onz patrol, what is the reaction to that? >> love. it's love. people love to see us coming. when you see a mom or you see a group of moms walking down the street in hot pink t-shirts, you know that is love. we're not wearing blue. we're wearing pink. you know this is the face and the shirt of someone who loves you, who is there to protect you. that's what we get. it's love. >> tamara, you lost your son ricky to gun -- marie yashgs rather, you lost your son rick why to gun violence. what happened to ricky? and why are you involved in this group and what is the story you're now telling? >> my son ricky had just moved out of my house and he was trying to park in front of his new apartment and he was approached by another young man who shot him dead. we found reasonable cause. >> how old was he? >> he was 24 years old.
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and he was a very popular young chef who was starting working during the day and starting alt night. >> whether you walk along with tamara, what is it you're telling folks? >> well, in this fight, we both the killer and the kill and the mothers of both of them are going to live with, you know, the grieving or one being in jail and the other one, you know, not wk us anymobeing with. my voice is of peace. i want peace on the streets. i realized after he passed away, he was killed that there were a lot of things that were causing the kids, the young kids to stray through no fault of their own. i do believe that children are not born bad. and it is our responsibility as
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their old area duler adults to that they're on the right track. >> tamara, how is maria doing? you've been walking with her. the two of you have been doing some good work here. >> maria is doing a wonderful job. i don't know if i could be half the person that maria is under the circumstances, you know, she's been faced w she's amazing. and so many mothers like her walk with us every day and sit out us with and cook and they love other people's children, even they they're own have been taken. but that's what we're supposed to do as a village. that's what we're supposed to do to rebuild our community. that's what we see a lot of. we see a lot of mother that's take the experiences of their own loss and bring it into the community to a tool to help rebuild. a toofl outlet for that love. >> how many moms do you have, tamara? >> it's quite a few of us f we need to get the pink t-shirt brigade together, we k it's not just all moms. it's men as well. so we have so many people that come out.
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sometimes we have too many volunteers and we have to send people home. we really have that many people. >> what kind of impact has it had? we gave some unfortunate numbers. >> that's unfortunate. that's for the rest of chicago. the one square mile area that the lap area that we patrol, so far we've had a dramatic drop in violent crimes in the past two years like nothing has happened there. you would be hard pressed to even get a fistfight out of that area now. it's all because -- it's not just because we're there, but it's love. it's a presence of love into a neighborhood with people don't get so much of. that they get patrol but they don't get love. that's what people need. >> marie yasha, talk about love. today is mother's day wlachlt would you say to you and the bold work you're doing right now? he would say, mom -- what? >> he would say, mom, you're doing good. i know he loved his friends and he loved children.
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and that's what i i'm doing. i'm trying to save as many children as possible. because we are responsible for those children. we mothers, all of us, are responsible for our community and the children within our community. >> right. >> maria, tamara, thank you so much. >> thank you for having us, richard. >> moms on patrol on this important day, mother's day. i appreciate it. thank you for your time. stick around
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