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hallie jackson, thank you. right now on msnbc, tale of the tapes. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle call for president trump to turn over any recordings he may have of his krfrgconversati with ousted fbi director james comey. plus, recording history. new reports say president trump has for a long time secretly recorded phone conversations when he was in private business. the reporter who broke the story will tell us what the president's former associates say and what it could mean for staffers now. and breaking right now, cyber chaos. the largest cyber attack ever is spreading by the minute, stealing information and demanding ransom from hundreds of thousands of users across more than 150 countries. what you need to do to protect yourself. good morning, everyone. i'm chris jansing in beautiful washington, d.c. this morning, democrats are ratcheting up their pressure on president trump on not one but two fronts. for starters, demanding any takes the president may have of
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his conversations with fired fbi director james comey. and fired up republicans are backing that up. >> if they are not provided willingly, congress should subpoena them. and if this is another fabrication by the president, he needs to come clean about it. >> democrats are also threatening to block any nominee to replace james comey unless and until a special prosecutor is named to handle the russia investigation. and there's a new poll out to show the vast majority of americans don't think congress is the one to handle it. it could all come to a head soon because the president has signaled his choice to replace comey could be announced this week. will the president have something to say about all of this later this hour? we'll hear from president trump as he addresses the 36th annual peace officers memorial day service here on capitol hill. and as we await the president, i'm joined now by nbc's peter alexander at the white house.
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last week was regarded the worst of the presidency, and now a series of polls show new lows and approval ratings for president trump. any reaction there to what has been an onslaught of criticisms, frankly for both sides of the aisle? >> reporter: yeah, the polls to which you refer to show his approval rating below 40%, 54% of americans disapproving the president's handling of his job, his responsibilities as president of the united states. what is striking is the numbers are not too far removed from where the unfavorable numbers were on election day. last year the president and his allies are quick to point this out as well, but be fair, the president is not focusing on the negative headlines. doing what is best publicly to ignore issues regarding his comments about the tape. sean spicer we heard last week say frankly they had nothing nothing further about it. he'll face other questions as democrats try to make an issue out of this right now. widely the administration is
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focusing on what they view a potential president. the president's first foreign trip heading overseas later this week, departure scheduled for friday, this is an opportunity to show they can successfully execute on the significant issue of great significance, given the fact it will be on the world stage, they view this as a unique, quote, global moment, as described to us. whetherist? >> and in the meantime, even before he leaves for that big trip, we may hear about a new fbi director, eight candidates we are interviewed over the weekend by attorney general jeff sessions and deputy attorney general jeff rosenstein, what do we hear could happen before he gets on air force one. >> reporter: it seems unlikely they will get this done over the course of the next five days before he departs. of the eight interviews conducted by the attorney general and the deputy attorney general, president trump has not participated in any of the in-person interviews to take place. he'll likely only be involved with interviewing in person,
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some of the finalists, whenever that may or may not occur. though the president himself said he expects this will be a, quote, fast decision that could come before the end of this week. you showed some of the names. we heard from the group, the association that represents current and former fbi agents, they are putting their efforts behind the former congressman, mike rogers, formally the chair of the house intelligence committee, also a former special agent with the fbi. they believe he would be the best pick, andrew mccabe, the acting fbi director at the moment. what is striking is you have eight politicians, senator john cornyn, excuse me, of texas, a big trump supporter, lindsey graham, another republican, saying under different circumstances that would be a good pick, but right now the president should go with someone who is not a partisan politician. chris? >> peter alexander at the white house, thanks to you. over to mike baquero there at
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capitol hill now, donald trump posted, james comey better hope that there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. and it seems democrats and republicans agree if there are tapes, the president should turn them over. what can you tell us about where congress is on this right now? >> well, chris, it's the latest time the president's tweets have put the president in a position, where you talk aut tapes and recordings harkening back to water gate. we have heard from aumber of republicans very unseizure wieae tweets, including a couple on the sunday shows, when asked, if, in fact, president trump should be turning over many of the tape recordings, if they exist. >> if there are any tapes, they have to be turned over. you can't be cued about tapes. >> if there are such recordings, i think that be subpoenaed and probably have to turn them over. >> i've asked to make sure the tapes are preserved if they
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exist. >> if there are tapes, the president should turn them over immediately, of course. >> reporter: so you saw two republicans there, lindsey graham of texas, mike lee of utah, lindsey graham is one thing off and marching to the beat of his own drummer. he's not in lock-step with the party line on many occasions, but when you have a conservative like mike lee from utah demanding the release of the tapes, or at least suggesting that if they exist, they should be turned over, that's a bad sign for this white house. chris? >> let me go on to what the ranking senate mike warner said, he thinks it's going to be very tough to get democratic support for a new fbi director. are wet ts early stage gettg any sense that democrats are unid on the front? >> the democrats are united. the one thing against democrats not in their favor is the math here in the senate. 52 republicans, 48 democrats. they don't have a majority to do that. so like other big ticket items
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or high profile items or controversial items, we'll see these time and time again, whether it be health care or the republicans looking into the russian meddling or work in tandem with what is already going on in the senate intelligence committee. incidentally, rod rosenstein was invited by mitch mcconnell to brief all senators in a closed-door session about the progress of the investigation on the fbi side. no date yet set for that. chris? >> mike baquero, thank you for that. let's bring in mark fisher, co-author of the biography "trump revealed." also joining us, white house correspondent for reuters, aisha rasco and mike schmidt. you have been talking about
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james comey, you better hope there are no tapes of the conversation, brought about your article that said the president actually has a history of secretly recorded calls. tell us about it. >> reporter: yeah, this goes all the way back to the early years in trump tower where he had a recording system installed in his office on the 26th floor. and he was able to record his visitors when they came in for meetings. we had numerous reports through the years of people discovering this. in addition, his secretaries sitting outside his office would often listen in on both telephone calls and meetings in the office. and this was brought home to us during one of our visits to trump tower to talk to donald trump, where with no one else in the room, he offered, my co-author and i, some drinks and without ever raising his voice or asking someone to bring them in, they magically appeared 30 seconds later. and we ran into a lot of people who had that experience of knowing that they were being listened to while they were
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visiting with donald trump. >> so he didn't push a button, he didn't pick up the phone, everything just appeared. >> right. and he's been up front on this through the years. in fact, during the reporting for the book, he told several of my colleagues that he was recording their conversations when they were doing phone interviews with him. >> so aisha, you were talking about the calls now to turn over the tapes, are we looking at a showdown potentially here? >> well, if there are tapes, it seems like they will have pressure to actually turn them over to produce them. if they are not, then it seems like this could be a bit of an embarrassment for the white house. this is something that president trump brought up on his own. as senator graham said, he said you can't be cute about tapes. so he's going to have to, the white house is going to have to address this one way or another, you would think. >> in the meantime, michael, our new nbc news/wall street journal poll finds that just 15% think
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congress should be the ones to handle the russia investigation. this other number is astonishing to me. 78% are calling for an independent commission or a special prosecutor. the question is, will there be any movement on the republican side? i don't know, those town halls where we have been seeing people sort of switching a little bit from talking about health care to getting upset about the comey firing. what are you hearing? >> well, whatever political impact there has been on the firing of comey with the russia investigation, the new details we have learned, it doesn't seem like it's enough to push the issue forward, to push the republicans to feel like they need tind po push the independe investigation. it fills out the story more about whether there was collusion with russia to actually put enough pressure on the republicans. because at this point we have learned a lot about what the government knows about this. and it's clear that they are going to hold steady and not go forward with it.
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>> mark, 29% of americans approve of president trump's decision to fire comey, 38% disapprove, but 32% don't have it on their radar. what do you make of that? >> i think a lot of people in the country don't follow washington news as closely as viewers here might. and when you go out to trump rallies and talk to people, they are only tuning in sporadically. and when they tune in, they tune in because the president is achieving something they wanted in the first place. so there's a lot of controversies like this one that registers as just more washington noise, more washington backfighting, to a lot of people who are political observers. >> meantime, michael, the article that you wrote on friday continued to have reaction. you elaborated on your reporting that at that big january 27th dinner at the white house, president trump demanded essentially loyalty from then fbi director comey.
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i want to play what the president said when asked about that in an interview that aired over the weekend. >> apparently "the new york times" is selling that you asked comey whether or not you had his loyalty was possible inappropriate. >> i read that article. i don't think it is inappropriate. >> did you ask that question? >> no, no, i didn't, but i don't think it would be a bad question to ask. i think loyalty to the country, loyal tty to the united states important. depends how you define loyalty. number two, i don't know how that got there. because i didn't ask that question. >> so michael, what did you think when you saw that? the president's reaction to what you wrote? >> well, you know, either the president doesn't recall what happened in that meeting or he's trying to portray his question of loyalty to a larger thing about the country. but our understanding from talking to several people that have spoken to mr. comey about this is that it was a question whether mr. comey would be loyal
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to mr. trump. mr. trump came back to it two times in the meeting. and by the end of it said to mr. comey, well, do i have your honest loyalty? comey said, you have my honest loyalty but comey understood he wasn't giving loyalty to trump that trump really wanted. if you study comey, you know that trump takes loyalty extremely seriously and comey, for whatever you think about his judgment, takes his independence very seriously. so we probably should have seen this, you know, break up coming earlier than we did. >> well, mark, as someone who has studied trump, as michael wright, should we have seen this coming? and what do you make of the whole loyalty thing? >> loyalty is very important to donald trump. it always has been. he's really worked throughout his career until joining or entering the white house with a very tight inner circle of literally no more than half a dozen executives who have immediate and constant access to him. those people are -- >> he didn't get that the fbi
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director has to be independent? >> no, because the way he's always worked with the tight circle of people, they have been loyal to him and he shows loyalty to them. they tend to stay with him for 20, 30 years at a time. so the idea that he's disloyal and that he just discards people is really not the case. what happens is, though, there's a second tier of people around him, and they are essentially road kill as far as he is concerned. straight out, unless you are in the inner circle, he really doesn't feel he owes a great deal of loyalty to those people. and to comey, he obviously fits in the latter category. he's not in there every day nor should he be as fbi director. >> i see where the white house is, they have the know, his aidss have to know what a bad week it is for him, do they think they can turn the page with the trip he's taking, turn the page if he names a nominee for fbi director, maybe he can get bipartisan support?
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>> i think that's the idea. they will try to move forward as much as they can. that they will try to focus on this trip. the trip will give him the opportunity to be very presidential. he's going to be meeting with foreign dignitaries. so it gives them a chance to be on foreign soil and kind of get away from all the troubles they have had on u.s. soil recently. and to kind of present a more dignified image of president trump. of course, with all of this going on, the question is, how much has he been able to prepare for these meetings? how much has he been able to prepare for this trip, because that can open up another can of worms if he gets over there and there are issues. >> there have been a few diversions. ayesha rascoe, thank you, michael schmidt, appreciate it. next up, log in and lookout. right now, vicious ransomware is demanding users pay for information. we'll have tips on how to protect yourself and explain why this attack is particularly dangerous, threatening banks,
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the historic cyber attack affecting several computers is affecting thousands of people as they log in for work.
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this affected hospitals, schools and companies worldwide by encrypting the files and demanding payment to unlock them. now two versions are being detected. nbc's kelly cobiella is here. what do we know about how fast this is spreading and where? >> reporter: companies and organizations in asia have been pretty hard-hit this morning. but that may just be a question of timing. a lot of the companies and organizations were already at the end of business friday when this started spreading. so maybe a case of those booting up their computers for the first time and finding out they have been infected. now, having said that, there are some new versions of this virus coming out now, china has detected a version. they say it spreads much faster and is harder to kill than the first one we saw on friday. but so far we're not hearing about secondary waves of attacks. nothing reported in europe or
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the united states, but american computers along with the rest of the world could still be at risk. the big key here is whether or not your computers or computer networks have been updated with the latest security patches from microsoft. chris? >> meantime, a researcher who is believed to have stopped the attack over the weekend is talking about how he did it. what do we know? >> reporter: yeah, it's a little bit technical when you get into the weeds about how exactly he activated this kill-switch. but he's a 22-year-old cyber security researcher. he says he first noticed the attack friday morning, didn't think much of it at first, until he saw it spreading across hospitals in england and scotland. he says he found a domain name that was linked to this malware. he registered it and noticed the virus slowed down in how quickly it was spreading. he also said, chris, that he was surprised by its lack of sophistication. he said it looked like something that someone had written in their free time, which may offer
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some clues as to who may have started this. >> or how bad the security systems are in some of these places. kelly cobiella, thank you. i want to bring in a firm that specializes and preventing and investigating cyber breaches. i just want to go to what she just said, which is if it's true, that this wasn't very sophisticated, but it's having this global impact, what are the implications here? >> it doesn't need to be that sophisticated as long as it is efficient and getting the job done. i think that is probably the biggest problem is that this code doesn't need to be that complex just to do a simple test. >> that's pretty scary when you think what could happen as a result that the carmaker had to shut down. i mean, why are people looking at this and saying, this is horrible. this is the worst we have ever seen?
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>> no, it's that it spreads by itself. in most previous cases, you would actually get an e-mail, you would have to click on the e-mail or click on a link and become infected. in this case, it can spread from computer to computer by itself. it doesn't need any help, doesn't need any user interaction, which makes it so dangerous. >> what do we know about where it may have come from? vladimir putin said the virus originated from u.s. intelligent services and that launching the viruses could backfire on those who created them. any indication this is from u.s. intelligence services? >> well, it's complex. no, i think he's referring to the fact that the vulnerability that he's using to spread from computer to computer was part of a release that has been allegedly tied to the u.s. intelligence service. writing the code, the malware, written and publicly released has been used to spread the malware from system to system. >> if you open your computer and
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it is already there as opposed to most of us becoming pretty savvy on not opening things we don't know, what do you do to protect yourself? >> we have the ch pa, make sure you have the latest security patches. now this patch for the microsoft operative system was leased a month ago. unfortunately in the health care sector, they have system that is can't be rebooted and this patch actually requires a reboot in order to take effect. so the patching and making sure you have the patches deployed as quickly as possible is critical. without that, you'll be in a lot of trouble. >> always back up what you have, right? because doesn't it take something like this. you said also don't pay because there's a question about if you need the stuff, should you pay? >> we are not even sure yet if they are releasing files when you pay. there's been mixed reporting about that. so, yeah, not paying is two-fold. one, because if you pay, then you'll have to continue the attacks. and two, there's no guarantee that if you pay you'll get data back. >> adam myers from crowd strike,
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good to see you. thank you for coming in. new turbulence if you can believe it for united airlines today. a major security breach there putting pilots and flight attendants on alert worldwide. information posted online that is having global ramifications. and any moment on capitol hill, president trump will give remarks at the national peace officer's remoral service. we'll bring that to you live. violence against police is an issue. the president discussed it this morning while signing a proclamation at the white house. >> last year 118 officers died in the line of duty. and of those, 66 were victims of malicious attacks. these attacks increased by nearly 40% from the year 2015. this must end.
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we're back now with the supreme court turning down the north carolina voting rights case. pete williams is joining us, what are you learning? >> reporter: now that the supreme court declined to take
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up an appeal from the state. the appeals court had struck down the law saying it was passed by the republican legislature in the words of the ruling, with almost surgical precision to discriminate against african-american and minority voters. it imposed a tough new voter i.d. photo i.d. standard. it shaved seven days off the time for early voting. the appeals court said that was pro dominantly used by african-americans. it restricted the ability to pre-register before they were old enough to vote. and if they mistakenly voted out of precinct, your vote wouldn't count. it was repealed by the naacp and the obama administration. and today the supreme court said it would not appeal to overturn the rulings. the trump administration had not signed on and taken any position one way or the other about this case. so because of the supreme court's actions, it's dead. now the one thing i would note
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here, chris, is there was a bit of a change in how north carolina viewed its own law. it was passed by the republican legislature, signed by the previous governor who was a republican, but as you know, there's now a democratic governor, he and his attorney general declined to defend this law, but the republican legislature said, nonetheless, they should be able to carry on the appeal. the chief justice john roberts today said because of the blizzard of filings, it was hard to tell where it stood. and he simply noted that because the supreme court declined to hear it, it doesn't mean it was ruling on the merits. he earlier indicated he would allow an appeal or allow the state to enforce the law while it was on appeal. but the supreme court when it declines these cases, you don't get a vote, you don't get a reason for declining to hear it. but in any event, this was the final blow to that law. >> nbc justice correspondent pete williams with the big ruling from north carolina from the supreme court. thank you so much. meantime, united airlines is issuing a safety alert to pilots
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and flight attendants worldwide after a major breach in security protocols. united's procedures for gaining access to the cockpit were compromised. tom costello is joining me, what have you learned? >> reporter: chris, good morning. united like airlines carefully safeguards the information about how people can gain access to the flight deck. in other words, the keyboard pads. somehow that information got out. now the airline is quickly trying to fix that problem while reiterated two its entire staff that information, that security information, is very sensitive and should never be shared. this morning united airlines insists it's not a hack, but the procedures for gaining access to the flight deck were leaked. now the airline is moving fast to shore up its procedures. that could mean reprogramming the keypads on every united cockpit door with new access codes. veteran pilot captain john cox.
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>> something like this information getting in the wrong hands is something that they are dealing with very quickly. >> reporter: since 9/11, every flight deck door on every commercial aircraft has been reinforced with steel. new planes come off the assembly lines with tougher fortified doors. to gain access to the cockpit, crew members must enter a secret keypad code. and airlines have their own confidential procedures for opening the door to flight attendants while in the air. if a pilot leaves the cockpit to use the restroom, many airlines require flight attendants to block the aisle with a food cart. >> so this is on our mind all the time. we are trained to be individuvi and our procedures are to remain in constant contact with the cabin. >> reporter: in a statement, united airlines tells nbc news the safety of our customers and crew is our top priority. and united utilizes a number of measures to keep our flight deck secure beyond door access information. in the interim this protocol ensures our cockpits remain
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secure. critical since the united planes take off with passengers 4,500 each day. united says its notified the faa of the security breach. there is no reason to believe according to security officials that terrorists have gained access to this information, but they simply could take no chances. chris, back to you. >> nbc's tom costello, thank you for that. in less than an hour, the ninth sir kucircuit court of ap will hear whether they should reinstate president trump's travel ban. we'll speak to the first attorney general who filed a lawsuit against the original ban. we are also watching capitol hill where donald trump will speak at the memorial for fallen officers. will he stay on script or go rogue? he's done it before. we'll have that live.
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trail. joining me is the man who filed the first appeal against this. let's go to look at what rudy giuliani said about this in the past. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete showdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> when he first announced it, he said muslim ban. he called me up and said, put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally. >> now the administration argues that the hawaii judge's ruling was, quote, fundamentally wrong. partially because the revised order does not mention religion. what is your argument? >> well, our argument from the beginning and the reasons why the court struck down the original travel ban is because the statements are relevant to determining whether or not a
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motivated factor behind the original travel ban and the revised travel ban was against the muslims. you can look at the context and the principles of the words involved, and the words speak repeatly clearly about what the intent was about. >> that's the intent of the man who is now president, but this three-judge panel is made up of appointees to former president clinton. he spoke out against the climate against muslims in this country. i want to play that for you. >> tough talking realism is all about how this group is a threat, that group is a threat and another group is a threat. does it mean we shouldn't be tough on terrorism committed by islamic radicals? of course not. but it means we shouldn't go around in a blind stupor mixing apples and oranges and terrifying some of the most talented, devoted people in this country who want to make their contribution and to help make us better. >> is broader public sentiment
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and former president clinton, if he's right n particular, is that relevant to this case? >> what is relevant to the case is the constitution and the motivation behind creating the original muslim ban and the revised muslim ban. and it's clear from statements by and you aired them, the president and his advisers, what they intended to do, and take my word for it, there are federal judges appointed by democratic presidents and republican presidents who agreed that the statements are relevant. >> i want to get ahead or don't want to get ahead of the ninth circuit court. but what are your feelings about it? >> the arguments based on the con con city tush will be appealing to judges of all sorts. there's a reason why president trump did not appear our victories in the federal courts of the original travel ban to
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the u.s. supreme court because frankly he knew he would lose. so the arguments are good, to challenge the revised travel ban, but you're right, it will be decided by the u.s. supreme court. >> i want to ask you quickly about another topic because you were one of the 19 other attorneys, among 19 attorneys general, last week requesting the independent investigation into the russian involvement. the latest poll showed 15% of americans essentially trust congress to do this, but realistically, you know how politics works, do you see this happening? >> that's a really good question. it is certainly my hope that folks on both sides of the aisle will see if this issue transcends politics. that this is a threat to the constitutional framework. my hope is certainly that republicans in the senate and congress will come to the realization and support the effort, which is so critical right now. >> so that is your hope, but what is your expectation? >> you know, if i had to bet my life on it, i think it will happen. i think folks in congress will
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recognize how fundamental this is to a threat to our framework and democracy. i spent my life working as a member of the attorney general and not of congress, but that's my expectation. >> bob ferguson, thank you so much, we appreciate it. >> thank you, appreciate it. this morning north korea says the ballistic missile can carry a large nuclear warhead following a successful launch over the weekend. check out this video of kim jong-un watching and celebrating the country's seventh test this year. the state-run news agency says kim is claiming the rocket can reach the u.s. military bases in the pacific, even the american mainland. the pentagon says the type of missile fired is not consistent with an intercontinental weapon. the u.n. security council is meeting tomorrow to discuss north korea and its missile program. still to come, a white house staff shake-up. could that be looming? a new report says president trump is looking to revamp his administration. it could affect top officials from the chief of staff reince priebus to press secretary sean
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going to fire you and replace him with sarah. >> oh, bless your heart, this is the first i've heard of that. >> get out! i have to find trump. i'm going to new york. the press interview is over! they are saying you're going to replace me with sarah. >> sean, come on, i would never do that. she doesn't have your special spice. salt and pepper. a little bit of sugar. >> melissa mccarthy and alec baldwin with their phenomenally popular take on sean spicer and president trump on "saturday night live." and though it was all for laughs on tv, there are reports that president trump is increasingly frustrated over the recent fallout stemming from the firing the of fbi director james comey and that he has been seriously considering potentially a seismic shake-up of white house staff. joining me now for the daily briefing on politic, mark murray and michael shear, white house correspondent for "the new york times." okay, mark, what do we know so far about the possibility of the white house shakeup? certainly, the name sean spicer
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has been out there for months, nothing's happened yet. >> yeah, chris, according to the white house team, there's definitely smoke to all the stories that there does seem to be a mood for the shakeup. in addition to the white house, press secretary sean spicer, steve bannon, the top strategist as well as white house chief of staff reince priebus, but one really big factor to consider with all the talk is president trump's upcoming trip abroad where it is very unlikely that he would have just a wholesale of changes right before he goes on his first and biggest trip as president. and also, if you have all the people who were replaced, the question is who replaces them? right now we have seen a white house staff that there are people in place like deputy press secretary sarah huckabee sanders, but there aren't a whole lot of names particularly in the republican party bench who may be eager to join the white house. >> i mean, that's part of the problem, michael, isn't it?
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because whether you're somebody who is being spoofed, and some might argue, maybe to the extreme on "saturday night live." or you're just somebody who is constantly taking it from the president when he gets gets frustrated, who wants to walk into that who has any kind of qualifications? >> i mean i think that's right. the sort of sense of chaos that has been here from day one from the moment he was elected during the transition and was inaugurated you know, the trump white house has been chaotic. that's why we have to take some of the reports with a grain of salt. it's possible tomorrow there could be a wholesale shake-up or it could be another day of chaos and more confrontation between sean spicer and the press and the whole thing continues. i think -- i don't quite think we know where -- what it's going to be. it would be a very strange time to do it two or three days before he takes office. >> timing has never been a strong suit of this white house. alex connen, the former white
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house adviser for marco rubio talked about how this and how trump treats his communications people. he said, "trump is putting a lot on the backs of his spokespeople while simultaneously cutting their legs out from underneath them. there is nothing more discouraging or embarrassing for a spokesman than to have your boss contradict you." now, at the risk of your twitter feed blowing up, i mean, they are in a horrible position. >> i agree with alex totally. >> which never excuses that anybody in a communications department should lie. >> exactly. and previous press secretaries who i've covered have been careful not to come out to that podium especially with the seal of the white house right there and say, you know, and say something they know not to be true. but look, the stories that are shifting inside of this white house are shifting because the president is shifting them. and you know, so if the president sets out a message and then the vice president goes and repeats it and other members of
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the cabinet repeat it and the press secretary sean spicer walks out there and repeats that, if it all changes later, it's real difficult for sean spicer. that is the dynamic that played out so dramatically last week with the firing of jim comey. i think that put a fine point on the whole problem. >> you still have, mark murray, so many positions that are open, ambassadorships not the least of them now family we have been hearing there's a possibility that ha callista gingrich, the wife of newt gingrich, could be going to the vatican or as it's its formerly called u.s. ambassador to the holy see. >> she is newt gingrichs wife and a devout catholic. it would be seen as a reward for someone like newt gingrich who was a top surrogate for the trump campaign certainly ended up defending them. sometimes made some critical comments. for the most part, a pretty big ally of president trump. if she got the plum position it
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would be a reward. you do hit on an important point here is that this is not the most important of ambassadorships. the fact that we're starting to get word that this is a pick, instead of the more hot spot ambassadors and even more importantly, a lot of the important assistant secretaries, many of the people who would end up running the government in the next year or two still haven't been appointed yet. i think there's a good question on what this administration is prioritizing and what it's not. >> yeah, and what they have done and haven't done. now the president himself talking about getting rid of press briefings. i mean, do we think he's serious about that? >> it's hard to say. look, there was a question about this question of press briefings. they floated the idea maybe they would not have them. they did. there's a long tradition. i think typically white houses see them as valuable to them as well as because it's a way for them to get out their an message
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and speak directly to the american public. i would be surprised if it goes away completely but i wouldn't be surprised if they make changes that diminish the traditional press and focus on press more friendly to them. >> mark, what do you make of that? there's been talk they could change the way it's held, maybe they would do it in smaller groups which is the way it was done at one point. they also had the traditional briefing. there is no modern precedent, is there, for not holding a pretty regular press briefing? especially i would think for someone who has been like it or not, pretty accessible. and that is this president. >> the white house press briefing is a way in which the news organizations and the american public is able to hold at a white house or administration accountable. if that goes and even if it's changed or tinkered, i think that would be kind of a blow to the public service and certainly the scrutiny that the media is able to apply. i would note while president
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trump has held several bilateral news conferences and those are news conferences with two world leaders where each gets about two questions each, he still has only given one full-fledged news conference so far in his tenure as president. when he was talking about well, maybe i need to actually go out and do it a little bit more, i think a lot of us would like to see him answering more and more questions since he is the one who is better able to speak for his white house and administration more than a lot of other of his aides and associates. >> yeah, and the other point i guess is that when he goes out with somebody like lester holt, who is very well prepared he finds himself in an even more difficult situation post interview. so we shall see. but there is a press briefing scheduled today, right, michael? >> there is. we'll be there. >> mark murray, michael shear, appreciate it. we are now moments away. they're running a little late. the president speaking on capitol hill. we'll be right back.
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just a short distance from where i am at the capitol, there's the president and vice president at a memorial service that will honor law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty over the past year. we were expecting comments from the president about 20 minutes ago. obviously, they're running a little bit behind. president, as you know, has gone off script at events like this and spoken about current event topics but we will see what he has to say. we'll have those remarks for you
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when they happen. that does it for this hour. i'm chris jansing here on a beautiful spring day. joining me now kristen welker hosting "andrea mitchell reports." >> another busy monday. good to see you. thank you. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the replacement less than a week after the president suddenly fired the fbi director. the interview process has begun to find his successor. ob capitol hill, even some republicans are insisting the pick should not be political. >> i think it's now time to pick somebody that comes from within the ranks or is such a reputation that has no political battleground at all that can go into the job on day one. >> tale of the waps. president trump dropped the hint he may have recorded his conversations with james comey. if that's true, could he be forced to release them? >> if they exist, congress needs to get them. if they're not provided willingly, congress should subpoena them. if they're not in existence, if