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time ts out. he said he would welcome them according to officials familiar with his thinking to nbc news. the congress, congressional republicans and democrats both want to find out if there are tapes. people are talking about subpoenas now. lots of news developing at this hour. my colleague stephanie ruehl picks things up. >> today's white house briefing just wrapped up and an analysis is majorly important because it was an important afternoon west heard about everything from the wiretap to the tapes. with the best team in the business. kristenweller joins us now. ari melber, kristen i have to start wuflt you just stepped outside of that briefing rule. it always seems heated and this is only monday.
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>> it is only monday. a couple things stood out to me. the press secretary got a number of questions the president floating the notion there might be recordings of his conversations with former fbi director james comey. he was pressed on that repeatly including by our own hallie jackson. and he continuals to repeat this talking point that he wouldn't add anything to the president's tweet. it was striking because there was a lot of pressure over the weekend from democrats, from republicans, for the white house to fill in the blanks there. and of course you heard lawmakers say if there are tapes, the presses needs to turn them over. or recordings. so spicer is still giving that same line only very controversial topic. then he was pressed on the ninth circuit court proceedings which are underway. the fact one of the jts hjustic,
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has the president walked down that the the muslim ban? and he has been questioned about this in frequent days. in the days running up to the federal court proceedings. and the administration not saying definitively, yes, the president walks back those terms. so those were two things that really struck me. for the president to pick a now fbi director, sean spicer indicating that he could in fact start to interview people as early as this week before he leaves for his big foreign trim at the end of the week. at this point it is still in the hands of the doj. >> we know lindsey graham said, if you have times, show them to us. is there any sort of legal obligation? while the president wasn't clear about it, he definitely floated it out there.
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with the exception of talking points no, one is saying anything. so this could be sean spicer not wanting the president to be outed here in his art of the deal negotiations. he mable bullying james comey and doesn't have anything behind it. is there anything claulawmakers do to say great, show us the tape? >> the truth and the law should not be up for negotiation. who knows what sean spicer is getting watt the nondenial denials. number one, if the times exist, they have to be maintained, they cannot be destroyed while there is an ongoing investigation which could include former or current aides to the president. unlike the previous administration, they don't even release the visitor logs so we don't know who has been back in the white house. so you cannot for various
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reasons destroy the times. unfortunately for donald trump, he created this. he brought this all up. this requires me as lawyer and journalist to cite us v nixon. it ruled against the president claiming executive privilege to not turn over secret white house recordings. the peril sell eerie, whether the president meant to imply it or not. so under the law of the land, it would be highly like if the tapes exist and this was ultimately tested and there were requests for subpoenas to turn them over, barring classified information, some form of that would force white house to turn them over. if anyone is watching in the white house, if you're asked to destroy any evidence, don't do it. that would be illegal. and sooner or later, the president will have to clear up the mess he created. >> those in the white house
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leaking out, maybe members of the president's team are talking or seeking their own legal advice. why would they need to do that? >> this is something with former watergate counsel john deen this weekend msnbc. he was a lawyer and he had an obligation to president nixonon but ultimately he became a witness and then a defend in the situation around watergate. let me be clear. we're not there yet based on evidence. we may or may not hear from james comey. sources telling nbc news, he will speak out. we know that form he aides have retained counsel. so there is no magic being in or out of government. no magic as to whether you have a job there. the question is with all these inquiries going, you need to think about your obligations beyond the government employee but your obligations to the law
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if you were asked to testify. do you want to claim that you shouldn't testify because of self-incrimination reasons and do you want lawyer to help see that through? i myself have worked in government before. 8 real professional empathy for people who take an oath to support the constitution, they work in a political or civil service position, they're just destroying to do a good job. this is one of those types where i would say given the number of inquiries, donald trump himself telling nbc news quote russia thing was on his mind when he removed the fbi director, yeah, if you're in government, you think to have about at what point do you not only look to your day-to-day job duties but whether you might be a witness in the proceedings? >> i want to get the pentagon position. sean spicer spoke about china
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and russia following missile tests over the weekend. i want to get this correct. what did sean spicer say? >> what we've seen the administration turn to china and more recently russia, to try ramp up the pressure on north korea, of course, we had that missile test over the weekend. we know that it land uncomfortably close the russia. based with officials here. so it stands to reason that would be part of strategy now to try to get north korea to scale back and to essentially end these nuclear provocations. but tfg question is, will this administration and how seriously is the president thinking about potentially a preemptive strike? they have continued to say that is a last resort.
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certainly it only adds to the tensions between the united states and north korea and will only turn up the pressure on allies in that region. >> from the pentagon's position, do we know, did president trump speak to xi jinping over the weekend? sean spicer saying well, there's pressure that russia and china need impose new sanctions and the president and the administration liked the talk about what a good meeting they had at mar-a-lago. real stuff is happening. another missile test over the weekend. >> right now, the mathematicians. they're trying to figure out the tell emtriof the missile. >> did you just say telemetry? >> i did. i think i'm getting closer to the understanding. it is a serious point. they want to understand whether or not the reentry of this missile was a success? was it controlled reentry? that would mark massive step
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change that the north koreans have in their ability to potentially deliver an intercontinental ballistic missile? we've always talked about that. not difficult to find someone better at math than me. i won't put you in that category, stephanie, but that's what they're focused on. one quick point to cysten's. so far this has been a china centered strategy. what we just heard was the addition to russia on that. there is a dispute. the u.s. is saying this missile plopped down in the ocean. the north koreans saying it is further away. there's been a concerted effort to make this point this is in russia's backyard as well. we have heard from president putin. he was in china speaking a couple hours ago and he seemed to not be that bothered by it and is criticizing the states
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for trying on intimidate north korea. >> in terms of intimidation kurks spell telemetry? >> it is with a t. >> in terms of new reporting out, it goes back to bank rex tillerson interview yesterday. we have not seen the same people that we really saw during the campaign west haven't seen senior white house officials. we saw nikki haleigh. a form he titan of industry, a guy at xonl for over 40 years, looking at chuck todd saying, every day i need to win the president over and earn his respect and get on his team. i didn't seem like the rex tillerson at exxon would have known for years. wharl do you think is happening?
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>> i think it speaks to the discomfort that senior staffers feel behind the scenes at the white house. we know that the president was not pleased with the messaging around his firing of fbi director james comey. of course he did take the blame for that. he said look, my staffers can't be expected to know everything that i'm thinking, they can't be expected to speak with 100% accuracy. who did that impact is this someone like reince priebus, sean spicer, there have been persist tent rumors that sean spicer's job could be under threat. we know that sarah huckabee sanders did very well last week had she stood at the podium and then of course there is steve bannon who learned about the president's final decision about comey after the fact costly there be a major shake-up? it's possible. and of course these rumors
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continue to regenerate themselves. this seems more likely we might see a few heads roll. there's that foreign trip on friday. a chance for the president and for this administration to reset its messaging, its agenda, to put the focus back on foreign policy. does the president hold his fire until after that trip and then change his mind with some of these staff positions? that's the big question mark. it is our sense there won't be a big overhaul. >> we know that since steve bannon had the, shall i say, kerfuffle, within the white house, he hasn't had one on time with the president. better safe to keep steve bannon in the white house than outside. fueling something like bright b.a.r.t. and to your point, steve only learned about the comey firing from watching it on tv like the
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majority of the senior staff within the white house. wasn't everybody caught flat footed with the exception of jared, ivanka and a couple others? >> a great point just because steve bannon hasn't been in the loop on all these key issues, i think you raise the key the point. does the president think it is better to keep him in the administration than to have him on the outside throwing bombs? one other point to consider. who would fill the top positions. there has been a fair amount of uncertainty. based on my reporting, there are a lot of jitters about sgoomico into the fold. how stable would one's job be? so throws some of the thorny issues the president undoubtedly is considering as he takes hard look at his staff. >> reince priebus has a really
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calls are growing for the ouster of president trump. another mental of congress wants
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him impeached. al green said the president obstructed justice and no one is above the law. he joins me now from houston, texas. we know that nancy pelosi just announced she wants deputy a.j. rod rosenstein to brief the house on james comey's firing. he is already going to be speaking to the senate bust will be closed. so nancy pelosi wants to hear from him. she plans to force a vote. we've heard. so about this to investigate russia's involvement in the electio election. do you think either of these things will happen? take out what you deal and tell me what you think will happen. >> high hope is that i think they will happen. i'm very pleased to work leader pelosi. she is quite right the and for the independent commission. this is something would give some degree of credibility to a
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process that is currently less than credible. >> but what's the ability to get it actually done? >> i'm hoping that it can be done. a lot of this will hinge upon the way the american people will respond. the american people will have the last word. if the american people make it known they desire these things, it will happen. many of these meerns are taking recalsitrant positions, if they will let they will know how they feel, you will see a difference. >> tomorrow marks one week since james comey was fired by the president and you are calling for the president's impeachment. i realize, it is not just that. there are so many issues swirling around all of this. in terms of wanting the president to be impeached, do you think that's going to happen here? given, you're saying. we need the american people to take a stand. that won't happen for quite some time.
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would you need your republican counter parts to get on the same page you are. are you doing anything would move that agenda forward? >> first, let me explain that impeachment is not the finding of guilt. it is important for people to know house impeacheses and the senate can have a trial where the president may or may not be found guilty. this is something that i'm calling to the attention of the public. i plan to approach my colleagues when we return to washington, d.c. we've been working in our districts. i think it is a very possible option. the public will have the last word. the president has committed pacts are impeachable. you don't fire the person who is investigating you and then say, i did it and i thought about the investigation at the time that i did it. and then go on to tweet what may
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be an intimidating commentary. all of these together would cause one to could not clues this is subject to impeachment in the house. i would assure people, if this impeachment takes place, i believe the president will be found guilty if we get it to the senate. this president has done some atrocious things to. add insult to the injury that he has caused by firing comey tunneled circumstances that he fired him, he then decided he would hobnob with two of the character that's are the subject of the some of the consternation that we are experiencing. one attorney general thood recuse himself because of this. mr. flynn has been fired because of his association with the ambassador. these are things we cannot overlook. and impeachment is a proper process to engage in.
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the constitution permits it and we should engage. >> congressman al green from the state of texas. we'll take a break. when we come back, it is spreading like a disease. a bad one. an assault on computer systems across the globe. part of a large scale ransom operation. as the malware multiplies, worries that this could be the tip of the iceberg. if you're not afraid of the cyber attack, get afraid.
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the u.s. infection rate has been lower than many parts of the world but we may still see additional impacts as these malware attacks change. it appears less than $70,000 has been paid this ransoms and we are not aware of payment that's led to any data recovery. >> that was homeland security adviser talking about the crippling cyber attack. today nissan and tech company
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hitta hittachi reported problems. the biggest cyber make the history started friday. more than two hundred,000 systems in 150 countries were affected. we are following developments from london. the initial attack on friday was stopped. what can you tell us about these two new strings? >> well, at least one of them appears to spread. faster than torch version. according to the chinese who discovered it, it isn't affected by the kill switch that a pair of kribler security researchers found over the weekend. so potentially, a very dangerous varant of this malware. that kill switch slowed down the president is of the first iteration of this virus but the risk is still there. thousands of computers in japan and china were affected i know what some in germany and colombia. what isn't clear is whether or not they were infected or how
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many were infected with one of these new var yanlts. a lot of companies and organizations hit on friday. in first wave are still struggling to fully recover. seven of the 47 hospitals affected in brit an are still having problems with their computers. and the french car maker renault said they kept a factory closed today as a caution to make sure the network was contained. the search for culprits is continuing. >> all right. keeping an eye on this story from london. for more, i want to bring in michael daniel, the coordinator for president obama and he heads up the kribler threat alliance. this ransom ware is asking doims pay to recover files. we already heard from tom bossert, even the money paid, i think he said $70,000 has not resulted in recovery any files. should people be paying? >> i think right now we don't
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have any confirmed instances of people who have paid, getting a dekripgs key that would enable them to recover their files. i certainly couldn't urge that people pay. instead, i would urge people to be and restore their systems from back-ups. >> microsoft president said he used exploits stolen from the national security agency. what does that mean? >> i can't comment on the specifics of whether or not this particular set of exploits was taken from the national security agency. what we do know is that the wannacry malware seems to be a cut and paste job from some exploits that were released on to the web by the shadow brokers group in mid-april. they claim to have gotten those from nsa. i can't speak to the veracity of that. >> he also wrote this in a blog
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post saying this attack provides yet another example of why the stockpiling of vulnerabilities by governments is such a problem. what does that mean? and do you agree? for many of us who haven't -- i'm going on jinx myself and get attacked tonight. we feel disconnected from this. how dangerous is this? what does it mean? >> the argument that brad was laying out in that particular post is this idea the u.s. government and other governments around the world, research and discover vulnerabilities in software systems, and then hoard them in some sort of stockpile of them inside the government for use by intelligence agencies. that's not how it works. the government has a very strong bias toward disclosure. it is in their interests to
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actually disclose vulnerabilities. after all, the government depends on the economy functioning well, it depends on businesses functioning well. the government relies on all these systems for national security purposes. so it is just not in the government's interest to stockpile a large number of vulnerabilities. >> while you're not inside the administration so you don't have all the information. can you put into perspective for us, how does this attack compare to what we've seen in the past? >> it is a new variant. the combination of ransom ware with a worm, you could call it a ransom worm. it is the first time we've seen these two things put together in this kind of fashion. we've saecertainly seen larger volume ts, greater impacts across the world. but this is certainly a very, very significant development and
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a very, very significant threat to a lot of systems. >> all right. thank you for sharing your thoughts today. >> michael daniel, the former cyber security analyst from the obama administration. when we come back, the james comey saga is far from over. the search for his replacement is already underway hooflt will it be? we'll give you eight names after the break. plus, miss d.c., district of columbia, was the winner of this year's miss usa pageant but it was what she said before the pageant that is getting all the attention. do you think affordable care act is a right or a privilege for all americans? >> i am going to say it is a privilege. as a government employee, i will granted health care and i see first hand that for one to have health care, you need to have jobs so we need to cultivate this sprirmt we're given the opportunities of health care as
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and the search for the replacement continues. at the white house today, the president said they are moving very rapidly on it. i'm joined by the former fbi drektor, mr. murphy, first i want to talk about rod rosenstein speaking before the senators. what should they be asking him? >> i think they'll and for the reasons behind the memo and the reasons behind dismissing director comey. what position is rod in here? >> it might be a little bit of a difficult position and some hard questioning. to come in with two weeks on the job and make determination and the recommendation of the white house, i think there are a lot of unanswered questions. it is a difficult position to be in. knowing his back ground, similar to director comey's, very well thought of, very ethical, i think you'll get a lot of straight answers.
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what do you think of the eight potential candidates that interviewed? >> it is a process. you will see a number of candidates. having been up close and personal to this process in the mueller got to leave. there will be a number of people that come on recommendation from the department. justice, from the white house, this president has a business back ground. i'm sure he has individuals weighing in on who the next person would be, the best fit for the fbi director. so you're going to see a number of names. probably the first round. we're under tim pregs there have been a number of interviews taking place and many say the administration and the filibuster and the new director would be in a no-win situation. and i kind of disagree with that. i think there's potential for what i would call a triple win, for the american public, the administration and a win for the fbi if the right person is selected. >> what kind of person is that? to get a triple win?
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>> i think the characteristics and attributes are similar to the directors there. i think you have senator graham, senator shochumer both calling r a nonpartisan pick. someone when they take an oath of office, the loyalty, the constitution, civil liberties, the rule of law, they really understand that. that's the foundation for the fbi. >> so you disagree. >> i think in this environment the right schois one with law enforcement experience, former fbi or someone extremely knowledgeable about the fbi. i think you need intelligence experience, without experience, media experience, hill experience, understanding the department of justice. if you look at those characteristics, you start to fair tow window. >> you have to add one more thing on to that.
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the president has made it the bundleantly clear, he likes people who will pledge their loyalty to him. that's not what he got from james comey. it is what he got from mike flynn who he continued to defend after firing him. it is what we always heard from the kellyanne conways of the world. so can you find a candidate who will pledge their loyalty to the president? >> i don't know that pledging loyalty to the president. but loyalty can be described in many different ways. for the fbi director, you're loyal to the president of the united states. he is the ultimate boss. if he says like what happened to director mueller, don't let another attack happen. you xaer mission out. if you're ever asked to do anything unethical or criminal, that's where the loyalty lies that you need to stand up and speak about it. so i think loyalty means many different things to many different people. blind loyalty, absolutely not. but you have a loyalty to the fbi, the american people, the
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president of the united states, but not where you're overlooking things shbl investigated further. >> the characteristics sound like someone who would then and for full transparency. from let's stay president and the administration. regarding all of these questions, swirling around the president's ties to russia. >> well, look. if you become fbi director, you need to be internally focused. especially in this environment, domestically and internationally. 35,000, 36,000 people, need a strong leader, internally focused. as far as transparency, you don't owe that. that's not loyalty to the president of the united states. loyalty to the president of the united states is not sprg view into criminal investigations that are ongoing. that's loyalty. you end up protecting the presidency. protecting the united states and the democratic process.
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that's loyalty. i doesn't mean blind loyalty that you'll be open and transparent about everything going on. >> do you think we'll get a new fbi director nominated and confirmed before the summer recess? there are a number of people inside the trump administration and people inside the administration who said great, let's get down to business. health care reform, tax reform, let's create jobs. now this monkey wrench is in the system. when do you think we'll be moving forward? >> they seem to be moving fast. i would like them to take a little more time. potentially, this is for a ten-year term. you want to pick the right person. you may miss something that you wouldn't have thought of. i would rather see them take a little time. it is very resilient. we're okay in the meantime to have an interim director. those leaders at the top will move that forward. we have a little time. i would rather see you take more
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time make the perfect choice. >> thanks, tim murphy. coming up after yet another launch, north korea said the new missile can carry a heavy nuclear warhead. what that means for them and the united states and what we believe they can always do. you hear these stories
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welcome back to msnbc. the threat continues to grow following north korea's latest missile test. u.s. officials are calling the launch serious after the country claims that its new missile can carry a heavy nuclear warhead. i'm joined now by john finer, there's an emergency security council meeting tomorrow due to this latest test. is there anything more the counsel can do? >> actually there is. there's quite a lot of rule to continue, both the security council and the united states congress in areas like the financial institutions that perform transactions on behalf of the nuclear program or the shipping lien that's help deliver materials into north
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korea. and i think it would be appropriate for the security council to take stronger action. for the congress to take up these issues as well. there hasn't been a lot of attention in congress in the the reason months. the other real problem is implementing. because china, north korea's main economic partner does not always 100% implement the sanctions, you see trade with china and north korea increasing. those need to tighten up as well. >> if we are not seeing the ones already in place being enforced, earlier, sean spicer called upon china and russia to put on new sanctions. take a listen. >> north korea tens to threaten the u.s., our allies and neighbors, including both china and russia. we are calling on all of those folks in the region, particularly china and russia to do everything they can in terms
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of sanctions to help resolve the situation and bring stability to the peninsula. >> so what levers do we have to get them to do it? we're calling on them to get the snangss place and there are already sxanganctions and they' not getting done, what do you do? >> this will require some carrots and some steks. with the steicks, has the optio to sanction not just north korean individuals and business entities but also businesses and entities from countries that do business. whether they are chinese, russian or from another country. that's not a step of the united states. it is called secondary sanctions. that's an option on the table or to threaten the possibility if they want to get clean and russia to focus going ahead. i think it is important to have carrots. not closing the door entirely to
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diplomacy. even as the pressure is increasing. that means getting the right officials had place. so far the administration has been very slow to get for example, its asian into positio they can actually start doing this work with our partners and allies in the region. >> all right, john, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts today. appreciate it. >> thank you. we will be back in a moment with a story many of you are talks about today. miss usa and health care. is it a privilege or a right? we've got two former beauty queens standing by. it's time your the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. michael is a frustrated musician turned urban wine maker. he started started a restaurant, a winery and a music venue. he's taken the leap expanding now to foive cities. for more, watch "your business"
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miss usa 2017 is -- district of columbia! ♪ >> that, of course, was kara mccullough, nuclear scientist representing washington, d d.c. being crowned miss usa last night. she's taking heat from mixing politics and pageantry in a way she answered a question during the show. take a listen. >> do you think affordable health care for all u.s. citizens is a right or a privilege and why? >> i'm definitely going to say it's a privilege. as a government employee, i am granted health care, and i see firsthand that for one to have health care, you need to have jobs. so, therefore, we need to
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continue to cultivate this environment that we're given the opportunity to have health care as well as jobs so all the american citizens worldwide. >> she was giving her view and critics on social media were quick to take issue with her opinions. i want to point out, because i've already seen it on twitter, people are saying don't forget to tell everyone the president owns miss usa. he doesn't. miss usa is owned by miss universe and the president sold his stake in that company already. but for more on this, i want to bring in madison, a columnist for the "washington times" who competed in miss usa in 2014 as miss ohio and shantee hinton, miss usa 2002 and a pop culture blogger. so, ladies, let's get right into this. first, do you agree with the comments, the current miss usa, kara, made, around health care being a privilege? >> first and foremost, i just want to say, let's not turn the new miss usa into a political witch hunt or martyr, okay? she's beautiful. she's intelligent.
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she's my new sister queen, so let's let her enjoy her moment. in terms of her answer, i'm going to give her the benefit of the daut. i doubt, i'm going to assume she meant because she's employed with the government and that her health care is provided through them, then that in itself is a privilege. we all know not all americans have that privilege, but we do know and what i would like to say is all americans have the right to basic health care. for anyone who disagrees with that, i'd say, look at a flint, michigan, parent, whose child is ailing from the water crisis, look them in the eye and tell them that. americans have the right to basic health care. >> madison, is it right that critics came after her so hard so quickly? she is entitled to her own opinion. >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, i think so many people are forgetting about the fact that even as miss usa, she has the right to freedom of speech. when we talk about what she said, another thing we need to look at is diversity which was highlighted a lot last night at miss usa. of course, diversity should not stop at the way someone looks on
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a stage. diversity, thought and opinion are also very important. if so long, so many years, so many pageant girls have been plagued with the stigma of being pretty and not smart and we have so many girls, most of them, who obviously do not fit this ste o stereotype. she's an amazing example of someone who doesn't fit this stereotype. people should respect the fact just because she has a different opinion from them doesn't mean it's wrong. also last time i checked in this country, you know, health care hasn't become a fundmeamental right. something like education. even if we don't assume, you know, what you were talking about before, she still was correct in what she was saying. >> let's talk about the other heat that she got. she didn't label herself, in fact, she refused to label herself a feminist. does this not go right back to she has the right to label herself anything she wants. she can be a strong, smart, sophisticated woman and doesn't have to call herself a feminist if she doesn't want, or is that a departure somehow working
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against, you know, female unity? >> you know, i'll agree, one of the great things about being in this country is we have the right to freedom of speech, and she can state her opinions and label herself the way that she would like to, but at the end of the day, i want to, once again, go back to the fact that she was probably put on the spot and a lot of her words are miscon dst. i want to believe that. i'm going to give her the benefit -- i know she's a nuclear scientist -- >> excuse me, let me finish. numbers and data are her game. i'm sure she knows that men and women are not equal in the gender gap when it comes to pay. however, she meant she wants to be equal as far as contribution that men an womd women give to workplace. that's great. numbers and data are game. i hope she knows the gender gap is still 80 cents to $1 that a man makes. >> numbers and data might be what she does for a living, she is a pageant woman.
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she just won miss usa. should we take her words and give her the benefit of the doubt? clearly she has been rehearsing, auditioning for months, if not years. maybe it's okay to take her at her word. >> let's give her a chance. it hasn't been 100 days yet. let's give her a chance to get settled into the job before we try to make it a political witch hunt. you know, there are other people in his kthis country who have bn the job for 100 day ds and thei failing. let's give her a chance to get her bearings. >> she won last night, in terms of let's let this woman enjoy this great honor that she won and give her a moment. >> oh, absolutely. i think it's quite ridiculous that people are taking issue with the fact that she shouldn't have said that. i think she said say whatever she feels and whatever she thinks regardless of how many people agree with her. she wasn't talking about equal pay for equal work. what she was talking about was equal opportunity. women are guaranteed equal opportunity in this country by the united states constitution. let's also keep in mind things like when we talk about running for office, it's not that women
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don't win as often as men, it's that women do not choose to run as often as men. these are maybe some of the things she was referring to as well. of course, on the panel of judges, there was not just liberals, not just conservati s conservatives, there was a mix of judges from all different political back groupds agrounds. they recognized her as a winner. she stood out among an amazing group of contestants. >> congratulations to her. thanks for joining me today. i look forward to seeing more women run for office and take seen year executive positions across corporate america. thank you so much. have a great day. that's going to do it for me for the hour. i'm going to turn to my colleague and friend, nicolle wallace. it is time for "deadline white house." hi, everyone, i'm nicolle wallace. we start with breaks news. teterboro, airport. i believe we have tom costello, nbc