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you're all here. thank you so much. thanks to my panel. that does it for this hour. next is mtpdale. >> that was an all star panel. we'll see you. if it's thursday, the political punches have gotten real. tonight, no apologies. >> i think she apologize. >> the montana republicans special election candidate faces an assault charge for a reporter as the final votes were being cast. where is the outrage among republican office holders? >> the people of the state o montana will decide today who they will send to congress. >> plus, the dubious document definitely unreliable intelligence inform james comey's handling of the clinton investigation? and america first. president trump hits the world body he once called objection least. >> nato members must finally
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contribute their fair share -- >> this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. i'm chuck todd in washington. what the heck is going on in montana and what has happened to most of the republican party? their reaction to the congressional candidate greg had gianforte has been alarmingly apathetic. in case missed it, troert said he body slammed him. here's what the exchange sounded like on tape. >> i was just curious -- >> okay. speak with shane, please. >> i'm sick and tired of you guys. the last guy who came in here did the same thing. get the hell out of here. >> the jacobs account was corroborated by a fox news crew
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who saw it happen. >> gianforte grabbed him by the neck, both hands. slid him to the side. body slammed him and got on top of him and started punching and yelling at him. >> but gianforte's campaign blamed jacobs and tried to smear him. quote. it's unfortunate that this aggressive behavior from a liberal journalist created this scene. gianforte has been charged with a misdemeanor assault. but it got worse say. some house republicans seemed to almost defend what he did. >> we didn't have a course on body slamming when i went to school. i misse that course. i'm sorry i missed it. >> it's ironic that this focus is on this one event when occupy wall street was civilians. the left has pre sim tatd this
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intense confrontsational approach throughout the country in recent months. >> okay then. a republican congressman steve who runs the campaign arm also defended gianforte saying from what i know, of this totally out of character but we all make mistakes. we need to let the facts surrounding this incident unfold. today's special election is bigger than any one person. it is about the views of all montanans. >> and then this person said, i think he'd be very welcome here. we need someone who will drain the swamp. some republicans did not condone what he did but they're hoping he will win. >> i believe we should all treat the press with respectful i try to lead by example. i of course home the republican is successful because i think his views are the views of the people of montana. >> the conversation should be
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civil. >> he would be welcome in the republican caucus if he wins tonight? >> yes. >> should the gentleman apologize? yeah. i think he should apologize. >> if he wins, he has been chosen by the people of montana who their congressman will be. i'll let the people of montana decide who they want. that's not our choice. >> we've really only seen two full throat condemnations. a big part of a publicer is vamt's job is teaching civics. if it means anything, it means you can't pod slam a journalist. >> and then strangely enough, this person seemed to channel what i was thinking. people feel like if the president of the united states can say anything to anybody at any time, then i can too. that's a very dangerous phenomenon. i think it is more general than specific to the press but the press is one of the bogeyman out
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there. there's a reason the founding fathers put the first amendment as the first one we all need to think about. then there's the political impact of the race. which has been thrown into total chaos. the race looks more winnable than ever for the democrats but this might have been the worst thing could have happened to they will. if republicans lose, they can now blame on it a bad candidate who snapped at the end of a campaign. if democrats lose, they'll be blamed for not spending enough time and money early in the race that clearly by the end was primed for an upset. i think the big question is, we know two-thirds of the vote is in. the people who voted probably always vote and they probably always vote the same way every time. the people who vote today may truly be the swing voters. what have you seen today? >> reporter: well, chuck, it's important to know that gianforte has been totally silent today. he has not said anything beyond
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that statement last night. and based on the voters i was talking to today, that strategy might actually work for him. we spoke to vote takers polling place in bozeman that i would say was probably more friendly to rob quist, the democrat in this race. i've talked to probably two dozen voters, admittedly not a very big sample. but nobody told me they were changing their vote. some of the quist people said they were pumped up. they felt like they had to defend montana. but even those who were more cautiously defending him said this might make me question his character a little bit fwufl policy differences were so stark, they were going on pull the letter for him anyway. what you didn't see was anybody sayi this moved me from one camp to the other. >> you said that gianforte has been silent and quist has barely mentioned this, has he? >> yeah. i was with the quist campaign yesterday when this happened. and his campaign staff sort of scrambled to respond at all.
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they brought him out on camera. his only comment was that it was law enforcement issue. he didn't comment on it again at another event later in the night. it is possible his campaign decide, this was the kind of thing where they can't make the night any darker for gianforte. the campaign committee doesn't necessarily agree that. they're running radio ads in montana to make sure people hear that sound. >> they're jumping in very late in the process. thanks very much. joining me now, the chairman of the party. how do you explain losing tonight if you come up short? >> well, we're moving forward in montana. what happened yesterday is indefensible. not only potentially criminal but really conduct unbecoming a
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potential member of congress. if you can't assistant the heat, stay out of kitchen. and the irony about that was that he was asked a simple question about the affordable care act. it is indefensible. but there is no excuse for knocking a guy over. and we're working hard. underdogs win. and rob quist, i talked to him a few days ago. he is working his tail off. i think we have some wind in our back. we have the issues on our side. a state that donald trump won comfortably. so he is undeniably an underdog. it is vote by mail. a lot of people votedrior to when the assault took place. at the same time, you know, again, people, this health care issue is very real. it's not just democrats that have pre-existing conditions. it is people across the board. and what they're trying to do to tens of millions of people who
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rely on access to quality health care is unconsciousable and indefensible. so i hope they'll take that to the polls. and people can register as we speak and i hope they get out there and register to vote. >> the reason i ask my question the way i asked it, you caught a break at the end. a candidate gets exposed to character tests. he gets exposed the last minute. the question is whether the democrats were there in time to take advantage. i know it's late here. you look at the spending advantage. the republican committee has outspent 3-1. the republican pacs has outspent the democratic pacs 16-1. your own organization would not tell us how much money you've spent but the rnc has spent almost 1 million. the fact of the matter is, why didn't you guys take this race seriously earlier? you have lately but the money,
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you didn't put your money where your mouth is. >> chuck, you've run campaigns so you understand in the world of post citizens united, we're never going to match the republicans dollar for dollar. that's why we need to overturn citizens united. all the dark money that goes there and elsewhere. i'm proud of what we've done. we've had a digital team out there for some time. we've made significant investments. >> so you don't acknowledge that you should have jumped in sooner? if you are 2 or 3 points short, you won't say, manning if you took this race as seriously as you took georgia two months ago? >> first of all, the polls aren't closed yet. >> you still might win. no doubt. >> i feel very good about this. and the reality is, he should be up by 20 points. because that's how things have happened in the past the in monday daniel a. >> there's a democratic --
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>> wait a minute. the state has elected a democratic senator. not that long ago. two democratic senators. john tester has been will elected twice. it is not that much smock a democrat was elected. i was shocked, this is more a question directed to them. i was smocked the democratic party didn't try to end gauge in this race sooner. >> well, i have great respect are. they've done a great job at the will dccc. they've been on tv for quite some time of they've been boots on the ground for some time. when i ran my first race, when i randal, i got outthe spent 3-1, 4-1. we spent smart. and i thought we had a better candidate, better message, and better strategy out there.
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the grassroots support the is tremendous. a state as wide and big as montana, what you have to do is connect with people virtually. use all the digital tools you have. and i think we've been doing a pretty darn good job of in that way. i spoke with mr. quist a couple days ago, a few days ago. and as i've said throughout, how can we be helpful? i'm proud. work we've been doing. >> appreciate you coming on. >> always a pleasure. trying get some perspective from the other side. i'm joined by a formerer republican elected member of congress. as you might expect, not a lot of currently elected republicans were anxious to talk about there story today. can you explain why it is so hard for so many republicans, including house speaker ryan.
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this man shouldn't be elected. >> democrats need 24 points. these are parliamentary elections. it is not about the person anymore. >> i understand that. >> is political expediency always going to trump small d decency? you may get it tomorrow. nobody wants to be the person that throws your party under the bus. >> the name calling on the right, i think we have the quote. we can put it up here. he republicans are a party who celebrates the bully who steals lunch money because at least he's not the nerd who gets his lunch money stolen. a party that celebrates not just cruelty but juvenile cruelty. it is by people i've considered adults. >> we're in a system today.
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such a divided country. where bad behavior gets rewarded. that's the reality. you get up and yell, you lie, you raise a million dollars online next week. that's the society we live in. >> you can it will be company catted. >> it is being copycatted. you look at the tea party. democrats have been using that same attitude going into town meetings. we call at this time herbal tea party on the left. they went to school on what the republicans did. each time it tends to get exaggerated each cycle. >> look. you're a long time handicapper as well on all this stuff. obviously, ifqvist had won without this political earthquake. >> i agree. he wins now, republicans can chalk it up to we had a bad candidate. they'll trash him and throw him under the bus. how many trouble is speaker ryan in? >> well, let me give you historical perspective.
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the last three times one party has controlled the house, the senate and the presidency, 1994, 2006, 2010. huge. there's a vast group that doesn't trust either party and they use the mid terms to make a correction. basically not to give the president an unchecked -- >> so you're saying under normal -- under normal times, this a difficult cycle throw. in russia, health care, and now what? >> normal times it's tough. congress hasn't been able to produce a bunch of -- you have 18 months. you have a long way to go for republicans to recognize, maybe we ought to pass some things and work together as a team. if they don't work together as a team and get stuff passed, their base will disappear. >> and tell me, look, we're in this period. you have two times of candidate recruiting. find candidates to run in seats. and find, make sure incouple bentz don't retire.
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if i were paul ryan, i would be kerneled about a bunch of members going, gee, i don't know if this is worth the effort. even if i win. >> you have a lot of long term members that really never had a race, they're getting picketers outside. you have to ask yourself, do i really want to go through this again? do i want to go out undefeated and unindicted? or face a real tough reelect? >> when are you up against that clock? is this what the summer is about? when does that assessment, when do you start seeing that assessment take place? >> i think when you go back in august. you come back and take a look at things. people are taking a hard look. lehtinen every right to retire but the republican would have probably held that seat. >> she could have held it. >> her own personal brand. you take that out and it becomes very difficult in a tough year. the transactional money in this
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town, they like to go with winners. if you look like you're going to lose, you will see the money shift to democrats as well. >> good to see you. >> by the way, greg gianforte was originally scheduled to be on the show tonight of the he cancelled this morning. i joined the army in july of '98. our 18 year old was in an accident. when i call usaa it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?"
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the nato prirmt an attack on one member country is an attack on all of after mr. trump's ref rhetoric, many nato members were hearing specific reassurance on article v. he did mention article v but he stopped short of specifically endorsing the provision. but is that actually unusual? it happens to be not that unusual. we went back and checked.
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the last four u.s. presidents also did not mention article v by name in their first nato addresses either. none of them were being questioned on whether they considered nato an important alliance or not. a senior white house official said the president's participation in today's summit should be seen as an endorsement of article v. and white house press secretary sean spicer said after the speech that the president is 100% committed to article v. we'll have more on the president's meeting with the nato allies after the break. this is a story about mail and packages. and it's also a story about people. people who rely on us every day to deliver their dreams they're handing us more than mail they're handing us their business and while we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country, we never forget... that your business is our business the united states postal service. priority: you ♪
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any point? >> no. no. i would never in my job, i'm a report he. this is american politics, it's not supposed to be professional wrestling. >> joined by the panel, the former communications director for the clinton campaign, and senior editor for the national review. eliana, let me start with you. i guess it feels sad that there hasn't been more outrage on the official right is probably the way to put it, among elected republicans. why do you think that hasn't been the case? >> you know, i think the congressman is right that republicans are reluctant to throw a candidate under the bus on the day of the election. i don't agree that this is some sort of a broader trump phenomenon. i think this is a guy who is clearly temperamentally unfit
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for office. i don't think it matters that this was a journalist. it is a terrible thing to do to anybody. and beyond that, his team has shown they have zero political skill in not coming out and apologizing, offering a transapparently false explanation. i think that's almost reason enough for republicans to distance themselves. a guy who has no political skillful goodbye. >> i guess the amen choir on social media. >> yeah. i think it is appalling. i think the other factor thas causing, this not that i endorse it, people think he is probably still going on win and then they'll be having him as a colleague, needing his vote. and i think that's causing them to say, well, we didn't like trump and he won too. >> another example of republicans buying into trumpism. looking the other way and being okay with it. and i think it wouldn't have happened. i think the trump phenomenon in
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and of it seventh is part of the culture. these two things related. i don't think this would have happened without donald trump being president. >> when is sort of elected leadership in washington going to have a sal you'll l. jackson moment with sniakes on a plane. we just allow to it happen. well, that's the way it is. >> the republicans will have the moment where they understand that they're looking at a generation of losses following trump. >> wait a minute. are they? what if the voters -- look. garrett went to plenty of voters and said -- >> i agree. i'm not talking about montana. i'm talking about the whole country. >> there are plenty of voters who think, yeah, they've been conditioned for 25 years to stoop media is the enemy. >> in the 19th century, we had
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congressmen slamming chairs over each other's heads. i think they said the people of montana will make the choice but i don't think it would have been inappropriate to say, should they choose gianforte, that he's not someone the house republicans are looking forward to having a colleague. i think that would have been a greater moment offer leadership than the statement that said he was obviously wanting to distance himself. >> itent some message that not all bel air is condoned. >> and every time it back fired with trump. >> and he walked it back. >> there's another story here which is, the democrats have this had, jennifer, have this opportunity sitting in front of them. but as i went through with the dnc chair. the democratic party has
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discovered the montana special election about ten days ago. and this has been a continuing, i think, push-pull in the democratic party more so than the republican party. the republicans see, they see wind against them and they throw money at it. democrats see wind and they run away. >> see, i think what you're trying to balance is do i go all in in a race in, for one seat in a race in montana in early, relatively early 2017. and then you get to 2018th and we've got a bunch of seats that are competitive and we blow a bunch of money there. and this is what they're always balancing and how helpful is it for the national party to come into montana and get involved. >> i get that explanation. it seems like a weak explanation. i know that's think thing. >> that's the thinking. >> is it outstated thinking?
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>> meaning is a win is a win. >> taking opportunities where you can see it. >> and democrats -- >> i think you shouldn't assume that what was not possible last year isn't possible this year. like i think we should throw out our filters of how we look at races a see things as a new opportunity. we were in a different universe. >> it is clearly an unpredtable time in american universe. that means opportunities can arise. you have to be prepared for that and take advantage of it. >> ride the wave that's there. >> if gianforte wins, he has one person to thank ironically. paul ryan. no spending entity has been more important.
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>> they went and defined them. >> i think you can say who would have thought the banjo playing music artist would have been the more normal candidate come election day? but he is. so you may be right. >> gianforte is from new jersey. >> they defined quist before they realized who he was. >> they should have been worried in a state where donald trump won by 20 points, that gianforte lost a statewide race for governor on the same day. that should hit big. maybe a yellow flag. you know? just saying. still ahead, president trump calls on nato nations to pay up. (avo) come with us... ...to a new world. deeper than the ocean. as unfathomable as the universe.
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welcome back, speaking at his first nato summit, president trump reiterated one of his themes. >> nato members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their financial obligations. but 23 of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be paying and what they're supposed to be paying for their defense. this is not fair to the people
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and taxpayers of the united states. >> joining me now, the former national security adviser for george w. bush. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> a lot of people, not just reporting but you can visually see the discomfort there between president trump and the rest of the nato allies. they were hoping that he would eak to they will, it seemed to me, that the president was speaking to america. in speech. tonight nato allies. fair to say? >> i think that's right. i think he wanted to demonstrate that he was keeping to some of his commitments. certainly his rhetoric that he's laid out in the united states and frankly was willing to confront nato leaders directly. something other that frankly other u.s. leaders have been unwilling to do. secretary gates when he left his position at the pentagon made many of the same arguments but did so on his way out.
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this is a president just starting his relationship with nato and these leaders. he will have to see them again, deal with them again. and they did look a little uncomfortable. he was clear, he wants more commitment from nato allies in the budget and he didn't mince words. >> you know these governments pretty well in considering your past life. will they view this, in some ways, candidate trump's rhetoric got these nato nations on get nervous, oh, my god. look how much money we're spending. they were being responsive to his criticism. if you're now president trump, don't you say, i'll keep pushing them? will they continue? or is there a point where you get dminlishing returns to this style of negotiating? >> i think it is helped that he has put this issue on the table. been willing to articulate it pretty openly. but i think you're right. at a certain point you get
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dminlishing returns. you don't want to embarrass heads of state. i think you take to it a certain point but not too much. and i think what you do is move the discussions into dorks state department lanes and into quiet discussions. not these open speeches in front of the leadership. >> i want to ask you, intelligence sharing with the united states that has contributed to all of these leaks having to do with the, what happened in the manchester bombing, the cell, who have responsible, different things like that. number one, is that a fair charge by theresa may? is it truly american leaks? and number two, how big of a problem is this? >> well, the british are incredibly emotional about the attack. i think we have to be incredibly sensitive about this. and i think they're angry.
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they're angry with the perception that there are leaks coming out of the united states. perhaps the law enforcement community, the intelligence community. it is not clear yet. there is a lot of raw emotion here. and i think on the u.s. side, there has to be a clear recognition that not only are the british in the lead here but the british authorities are trying to run down very real leads. you can feel the tension. we're not in lockdown mode here in london but you go sense some urgency here. i think anything that is done to jeopardize that, to understand where there are networks or threats coming to the british people, that will be taken very seriously and that's why you've seen theresa may and others react as they have. >> thank you. appreciate your expertise. >> thank you. up next, did the fbi director get duped? new information about a dubious dpomt could have influenced james comey's decision on the
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the capper was, i'm not picking on loretta lirnlg, but her meeting with clinton was the cammer for me. the department cannot by itself creditably end this. that was a hard call to make. to call the attorney general and say we're about to do a press conference and i won't tell you what i'm going to say. >> it turns out when he used the word capper, that was an incredibly important code word. explaining why he made the decision to announce that the fbi was closing the investigation on the e-mails. and they would do this without informing the attorney general. among all the related stories was one story that alleges quote, dubious russian intelligence document purportedly claiming there was an understanding between the clint campaign and the justice
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department headed by loretta lynch that somehow played a role. the current and former officials have said that document played a significant role in the july decision by then fbi director james comey to announce on his own without the justice department involvement to say the investigation was over. but according to the fbi's own assessment, the document was bad intelligence, possibly even a fake could confuse bureau. with you we at nbc news have confirmed the exist tense of this document and it was a factor in his decision. there's been no confirmation that the document was fake. >> capper here. he said that was the cammer here. now we can understand what he meant by capper. loretta lynch on the tarmac. wasn't the only reason he did this. this memo seemed to indicate that there was, there was one political operative indicated
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they got some insurance that don't worry, this clinton thing isn't going to get any more than it is. is it true or not? >> we don't know if it is true. it is incredible if true. here's what we know is true. this memo exists. if it was a factor, did he not go to the attorney general? it alleges a corruption of sorts. that she was willing to go easy on clinton, right? >> it seems to me there are only two possible explanations. only two things here and neither are good explanations. either, director comey got duped, the fbi has been duped by a hoax, voters are getting duped by fake news. and that's scary of how sophisticated they are. or problem two is, he has an issue and he doesn't go to anybody about it. so that's what sort of -- something doesn't, there's something missing in this story
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and clearly, comey's folks are not confirming and denying whether this memo is real. there seems to be something missing. >> that's why critics are accusing. it goes back to what we learned this week, we learned a lot more about what the fbi intelligence knew about the potential collusion in the trump campaign about corruption. and they weren't talking about that but they were talking about the clinton e-mail investigation. >> it seems that comey's part, he was worried russia would release this series of e-mails. we now have plenty of people saying they had these conversations. so it seems, according to the post reporting, that there is something questionable about this intelligence. >> it does. whether the memo was false or true, it would have been devastating. and that does seem correct. >> either way. as fake.
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we know a third of the country might believe it. >> exactly. maybe it would have taken a week for people to realize wasn't true. so it boggles the mind. >> does this impact, do we think comey will have second thoughts about doing public testimony? or does he now hold off? because this memo is such an issue? >> the people i'm talking to say he still very muchants to stify publicly. they say the biggest factor is what bob mueller wants to do. if he is investigating obstruction of justice, he may now want comey to tell his story publicly. but i believe comey badly wants to do that. >> all right. good to have you. >> thank you. republican senator bob corker will join me this sunday to discuss the latest on the senate's russia investigation. after the break, why i am so obsessed about what happened in montana yesterday and washington today. just by looking in my eyes.
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and from patrick buchanan. these days, the clever alliterations seem quaint. we've now moved from blame america first to blame the media first. it matters when president trump encourages supporters to beat up protesters. it matters when so many members of the president's own party can't bring themselves to condemn the condemnable. can't bring themselves criticizing a man running to be one of their colleagues. can't bring themselves to find a response beyond blaming the left or coming up with mythology about the media. you want to rage against the so-called media, fine. you want to send a juvenile tweet? go ahead. let's at least draw the line of physical violence. the media is not blameless but there are plenty of elected
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officials and paid political consultants who are way too eager to exploit misplaced anger out there to make the media look bad. i've been looking in the mirror and plenty of my colleagues have. but elected officials and paid political folks, particularly on the right these days. you look in the mirro too. greg gianforte's attack, even more toxic is the conspiracy of silence of those who should know better. i've been blind since birth. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night,
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compromised. there's no good answer here. >> right. i think it is a hoax. it's ridiculous to think amanda got tan -- got an okay from loretta lynch. a california person, she won't know loretta lynch. >> i hope the political campaign director wouldn't know who loretta lynch. >> doesn't know her. that's ridiculous and bizarre they would come up with that. i think the bigger problem for comey is that he forgot he was the fbi director. he is not the deputy attorney general. he's not part of the justice department. his job was to do the job of the fbi director and he always would say, i make my decision and i don't worry about consequence. and that could -- that is a lie. the guy overthinks consequence of his decisions. are you supposed to make a decision on the facts that he has before them and let the chips fall where they may. he was doing the job not just of the fbi director, at one point he was the deputy attorney
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general for bush. i think he thought he was still the deputy attorney general. it is not his job to worry about the attorney general or to worry about whether or not his investigation was going to look -- was going to look as if it had been influenced by the attorn general. that's the attorney general's problem. >> ramesh? >> it does seem as if to take on jen's point he took on the burden of being the ombudsman for all of washington apparently. >> yes. >> i can't disagree with that. i do think that the parties and the voters put him in an extremely difficult set of situations. >> totally agree. >> which it was very hard to navigate. i don't think looking back on it i don't think you can say the decision s were the correct ones. i don't think it was just this. there were a series of them. >> diana? >> i agree with that and i don't think that anybody can look back and think that, you know, bob mueller got in some hot water with the bush administration several times, two threatened resignations that were reported at the time. comey seems to have operated a little bit differently, and it
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is, you know, looking back, i think with a very careful, clear regard for his reputation. and i think that's what there are some objections to. >> i thought it was a bad choice. >> what do you mean? >> you know, he was lauded on the left because we all knew about the great story about him and john ash croft's hospital room and how he defied the white house counsel. >> you think obama made a mistake? >> why do we know that story? the press knew about it. he is more interested in his reputation than doing the job put before him. >> donald trump called him a grandstander. >> i believe our president is right. >> i was just going to frame that quote for folks. jennif jennifer palmeri. >> i think the expost factor of the emergence of these memos, if he had a problem with what the president was doing we should have heard more from him at the time. that also seems to me a reputation preserving and, you
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know, guarding -- >> but i think he was also trying to guard the institution of the fbi. whether or not he made the right decision bz h decisions about how to do that. >> i think it was the institution of the justice department. he was concerned about -- that the russians would leak all of this, true or not, and that the pure existence of it would call into question the legitimacy of the justice department. >> i don't think it's just his own reputation that he was concerned about. >> right, i agree with ramesh. it's bigger than that. >> i accept that. it's still not his job. whatever fake e-mails the russians cooked up that they based decisions on. >> this means congress really is going to want -- there's going to be a lot of comey memos they're going to want to get their hands on clinton related and russia related. >> i think more and more it's very clear that this is going to be a year's long investigation. it macon sum trump's entire term whether it's his first term, we don't know. but the white house better
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prepare for this and, you know, figure out a way to seal this off and direct inquiry somewhere specific. >> we shall see. that is a larger conversation about whether the president has the ability to compartment allies. thank you. after the break, new bipartisan measure probably won't be getting bipartisan support. dear predictable, there's no other way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake,
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measure today, an important one. rarely happens, right? jeff flake of arizona and senator tim kaine of virginia proposed new operation of military force or what we've been calling an aumf. it would replace the one since 2001 that authorized force, essentially a military campaign, again those responsible for 9/11. the replacement aumf would authorize fies against isis, al qaeda and the tally ban never named in the first aumf. there have been bipartisan call for years and individual members of congress always say they want to have more accountability on these things. but that doesn't mean this bill has a one iota chance of passing or even making it to the floor for a vote. the reason? the leaders, they don't want to force their members to defend a war vote period. in case you missed it, political expediency wins out every time. that's all for tonight. former cia director leon panetta
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will be my guest tomorrow right here on mtp daily. coming up next we have for the record with greta, it starts right now. my good friend stephanie roll is working. >> thank you, charles, very much. working sun up and sundown. >> work overtime. >> you got it. >> thanks, chuck. good evening, i'm stephanie sitting in for greta. and we have breaking news on president trump's travel ban. the justice department will appeal to the supreme court. this comes just after a federal appeals court ruled to keep the ban on hold. the court saying the ban, quote, drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins me. pete, what's going on here? >> we have a ruling from the fourth circuit saying they agree with a judge in maryland that the challenger should be able to get a stay on enforcement of this revised executive order that was to go into effect
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