it looks faster. the former watergate special prosecutor. thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> that does it for our show tonight. rachel will be back next week. if you're interested, you can catch my show, the point, which airs sunday evening from 5:00 to 7:00 eastern. good morning. welcome to a.m. joy. donald trump's last day continues to be shadowed at hole. the latest bombshell comes from the "washington post" which reported last friday in a secret meeting inside trump tower in new york at trump tower, jared kushner and russia's ambassador to washington discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications

channel between trump's transition team and the kremlin using russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their discussions from monitoring. reports it was kushner who asked for the secure channel and the ambassador was taken aback. neither the white house nor kushner's attorney commented. loot into russia's meddling in the election, not as a suspect but source of information. investigators focus on meetings with sergey kislyak, as well as a meeting with a russian bank subject to u.s. sanctions. kushner's attorneys tells nbc news, of course, mr. kushner volunteered to share with congress what he knows about these meetings. he will do the same if he's contacted in connection with any other inquiry. meanwhile reuters reported on friday that kushner had multiple undisclosed contacts with kislyak between april and

november of last year and that fbi investigators are, quote, examining whether russians subjected to kushner or other trump aides that relaxing economic sanctions would allow russian banks to offer financing to people with ties to trump. kushner's attorney said kushner has no recollection of these meetings. joining me now nayyera haq, mr. nantz, former cia agent jack rice and former fbi double agent. wow, wow, and wow. i'm going to start with you, nayyera, how normal or typical would it be for son-in-law of the president of the united states or anyone in the administration to not only set up a back channel with foreign adversarial country but suggest doing so in that country's secure facility. >> it is so beyond the pale, it does start to boggle the mind

and lead to why, why do all these actions, all these meetings in such quick order after the election f there was a goal to have a better relationship with russia, why not wait a few weeks and months. the idea this was happening during transition, without awareness of intel and diplomatic communities does point to something untoward happening. >> the fact the russian ambassador was taken aback by the suggestion by kushner they actually meet inside the russian facilities which the russians are monitoring and the u.s. cannot. it is bizarre, malcolm, it is what does it say to you? >> well, first off, it's bizarre. i think to a certain extent a lot of people certainly in the news media i've heard of in the last 24 hours are pulling their punches on this thing. this is not bizarre, this is incredibly suspicious. there is no reason that any of

these communications should have happened, much less 18 of them. no other administration in transition has ever had communications with a foreign adversary at all. certainly not like this one. now, with regards to jared kushner's recommendation, people are saying that maybe he was just naive. this isn't naive. this is a man who came from a billion dollar industry. he knows what the meaning of going into another corporation's headquarters and then using their secure communications would mean and how that would look certainly to the united states. there is a lot more than why here, which is always the question we in the intelligence community ask. another question that really needs to be answered right now and has been unanswered satisfactorily, what did he intend to transmit through russian's system to communicate with vladimir putin? daily presidential briefing? nuclear codes? i don't know. everyone in intelligence has to assume that's what he was going

to do. there is no reason that any of this hoof happened and the fbi needs to dig into this right now. >> the former cia director i don't know brennan gave testimony that i think is going to wind up according to the history books when this bizarre period is recounted. i want to play a little bit of that. this is the testimony before the house intelligence committee about russia's brazen interference in this election. let's play that. >> i encountered and aware of information and intelligence that revealed contacts and interactions between russian officials and u.s. persons involved in the trump campaign that i was concerned about because of known russian efforts to suborn such individuals. it raised questions in my mind if russians were able to obtain with those individuals. often people who go along that

path don't realize they are on that path until it's too late. >> when people heard that, they immediately thought was mike flynn. thinking about people along a treasonous plan. might be. we don't know what he was talking about. in order, "washington post" piece kushner conveys to the russians he's aware it would be politically sensitive to meet publicly but it was necessary for the trump team to be able to continue their communications with government officials, right? you also have the bank -- the sanctioned bank that's in those meetings as well according to the reuters story the russians conveyed a kushner that having these contacts and improving relations might make it possible for loans to be made available to people within the orbit of donald trump. and we know that jared kushner has a building on fifth avenue,

66 fifth avenue that he's in deep, deep debt to, that he needs money for, that he's sought loans for. you see where i'm going with this jack rice. it does feel like there's even naivete here. >> it's criminal. people in the intelligence community, prosecutors starting to sharpen their knives here. this isn't about kushner saying i never met these guys, which he did. wait a second. they were phone calls. wait, they weren't phone calls, they were face-to-face meetings. wait, they weren't face-to-face meetings, i was talking about a back channel at the russian embassy. let's think about where we are here. we're finally at a place where we're starting to not see lies but this starts to sound like the conspiracy people in the

intelligence community are petrified about. what malcolm said, if this blows apart, goes to the pieces, what is it this man was trying to get to the russians. what is it that was actually coming out. the problem that we really have is that americans die as a result of this. people, including our allies, can die because of this. this is why you start to look at this from a criminal perspective. this is the reason you have to start contemplating why you prosecute people who do this sort of thing. as a former cia officer, again, if i was going to recruit somebody, the reason kislyak was shocked by this, you never would with a guy in the embassy but somewhere else. there's so much more that needs to be dug into. there's so much more that needs to be talked about. it's extraordinary. >> one other piece from the reuters piece. this is the reuters piece. kushner and flynn who were in this meeting together discussed with kislyak, known to be a sky

recruiter, the idea of creating this back channel between trump and russian president vladimir putin bypass diplomats and intelligence agencies, according to two sources. the other little piece, fbi investigators are examining when russians suggested to kushner or other trump aides relaxing economic sanctions would allow banks to offer financing to people with ties to trump. we get right back to the things we've talked about a lot that make people vulnerable to be recruited. need and greed. have you somebody in jared kushner who needs money. he needs money to finance his buildings. you start to see -- you were always asking the question of the why. are you starting to feel like the why might be the need for financing. >> when there is doubt, there is no doubt. we are dancing around this. absolutely, joy, you're right. what this is is a pattern is emerging here. when you have people omitting things sf 86, forget about

criminality. more the pattern, pattern of deception. why are you trying to deceive investigators, trying to hide this. when you have flynn and kushner sitting down and having a discussion about this, no longer one person doing it. now you have 2014 if you have two spies, not just one but a spy ring. if you have two, it's much more likely there are three. to go back to jack and nayyera and malcolm has said, this warrants a much, much wider investigation. i have to tell you we've heard everything from kushner onto the election in december, this seems to be the time it came out. what i'm concerned about is much more like flynn, we have to go back three, four years. was kushner targeted, recruited years ago much as flynn was. this is a massive thing. this is not an investigation. this is still an active crime scene. we still have whatever the russians started in january are still in play. until we identify those people who are potential assets and physically remove them, the russian operation is continuing.

my goodness, this is just nothing short of breathtaking. >> i'm going to go around the room and coming back to malcolm quickly on this other piece. said if there's two, it's a ring. let's go to three, carter page. carter page in this story undersold because so many other things coming out of the fire hose, this didn't make to be a big headline. "washington post" thursday, multiple people familiar with campaigns, carter page brought into the fold at a time of desperation with the trump team as trump was starting to win prim areas, he was under increasing pressure to show he had a legitimate presidential caliber security team. most wanted nothing to do with him. along came carter page. anyone who came in with a pulse, resume and seemed legit would be welcome. have you carter page, who has an office right down the street from trump tower in manhattan, walks across the trellis, walks himself in trump tower, presents himself with phd and background in russian business and he gets on the campaign.

does it sound like somebody who was adding himself to the campaign for a reason? >> adding himself to the campaign or injecting himself into a network of assets. i think over at the national terrorism division and counter-intelligence -- for the counter-intelligence division but counter-intelligence officers who are now investigating this, the nation's spy hunters, i can tell you for a fact, they are just going to assume right now that they have a network of spies or assets who are witting or unwitting. carter page may have been a walker. that's a person that walks in and offers himself for services but may be an infiltration agent. it's possible he could be an infiltration agent for us, working for the fbi or, in fact, working for the russians. we don't know at this point.

but when you tie all of these individuals in, carter payable, paul manafort, michael flynn, jared kushner, michael cohn, jeff sessions, every one of them has one nexus, that nexus is sergey kislyak, russian ambassador to the united states. every one of these people tried to hide their connections with him. this would definitely be considered an active suspicious network. like i said, you're just going to have to assume there's an espionage component to this. otherwise it would be negligent to not believe these people were being handled by the russians themselves. >> a hell of a coincidence, all these taking place in trump tower where another guy lives, paul manafort, who lives in trump tower, done business with donald trump, nefarious regions including ukraine pro-russian, manafort and flynn, russian spies collected information senior --

they both they knew flynn. you've got manafort's money trafficked through. now we've got four people. >> the numbers keep expanding here. i try to imagine an fbi agent or group looking at a ring somewhere in michigan or new jersey or florida or anywhere else. if you start looking at the connections, that nexus point, that place where they all come together. again, it is kislyak and russians. it's also lie after lie after lie after lie. if you you a one lie, you'd say, well, it's going to happen. it's not just one but two, three, four, five from each of these individuals. as time goes on, it expands. it gets worse and worse. you drop a stone in the ocean and it starts to ripple out. this the ripple effect we're watching. it's getting bigger and bigger. >> everybody stay here. we have to pay for this whole thing. we're taking a commercial break. coming up donald trump's world tour is about to end. many in the world are so happy to hear that. that's next.

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23 of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be paying and what they are supposed to be paying for their defense. this is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the united states. and many of these nations owe massive amounts of money from past years and not paying in those past years. over the last eight years, the united states spent more on

defense than all other nato countries combined. >> donald trump had what the cheeky folks at slate called first big boy trip. took nationals to rhetoric on nine-day took that concludes today in italy. of course it was the bigly best trip ever. ♪ ♪ >> i never mentioned the word or the name during that conversation.

>> congratulations. great job. >> thank you very much. >> despite all that absolute awesomeness you just saw, somehow trump's first global adventure is not being viewed as a success, because of what he failed to say at nato headquarters in brussels while standing by new 9/11 and article 5 memorial, a tribute to both the lives lost in the terror attack and nato invoking article 5 for the first and only time ever in its history in support of us. despite that not so subtle reminder of how vital nato's defense pledge is, trump did not do what every other american has

done since nato's inception, give a full public, full throated and unequivocal endorsement of that mutual defense agreement and that is a problem. bigly. back with me now nayyera haq, jack rice. how big a deal is it that he failed to make that point from a diplomatic point of view. >> huge. here is why. united states has relied on several members of nato to support our objectives including iraq, 9/11, afghanistan. people have bled to defend u.s. national interest. on top of that migration challenges, terrorism. these are intel compacts we have with nato members united states relies on for information. we use nato far more than people think. we are relying on them to step up when the united states has a challenge. >> cory lewandowski who used to be campaign manager on what executive producers calls the kids on the curvy couch show, "fox & friends."

he had a different assessment. let's listen to how he thinks the trip went. >> he went to israel, saudi arabia, now in italy with g7. this has been a phenomenal trip by all accounts. the main treadmill media continues to refuse to give him the credit which he deserves, which is showing that the americans are once again the dominant force in the world. reassuring our allies we're going to stand with them to thwart global terrorism. >> set up to defend russia-gate, his bestest and brightest to get out and defend his international stage presence? >> well, you know, i'm dumbfounded. i can barely say anything. that trip was great for saudis, u.s. manufacturing shipped to the united states to saudi arabia, hundreds of billions of weapons systems that will create very few jobs in the united

states. however, the trip to nato was an absolute positive disaster. i'm saying that as a former war fighter. i've worked on nato missions. december 12th, 2001, nato came to the defense of the united states by invoking article 5 and donald trump did not commit to supporting and helping our nato allies who one of them be invade. vladimir putin won on that trip. u.s. values, u.s. policies, u.s. security standings since 1940s was not reaffirmed on this trip at all. >> jack rice, what he did do was essentially say nato owes us money in the united states. let's listen what he actually did say about article 5. listen to what he said.

>> this ceremony is a day for both remembrance and resolve. we remember and mourn those nearly 3,000 innocent people who were brutally murdered by terrorists on september 11th, 2001. our nato allies responded swiftly and decisively invoking for the first time in history article 5 collective defense commitments. >> and yet jack rice he did not reaffirm article 5 himself. he also shoved the representative from montenegro who just resisted vladimir putin and joined nato, which was sort of awkward, just shoved him out of the way, which is a weird thing as well, and said that the germans are very, very bad. germany, who is our ally, a lot of people would say angela merkel is leader of the free world at this point, gave an interview where he said germans

are very bad and not going to let them sell cars in the u.s. anymore. treating the saudis really, really well and treating allies like germany really, really poorly. how do you think that went over? >> there's so many things to talk about here. the incompetence goes so deep it's astounding to me. i remember being in the field in kosovo when nato forces were there. i was in the field with brits and australians and americans, iraq, afghanistan, we start looking at all the things going on, we cannot do this unilaterally. the idea that nato stepped up, all of these countries stepped up and bled and died beside us in many ways for us and to simply forget that. what that does is this. it basically ensures in the future we may be going it alone. now what you see on the other side of the issue back in the middle east is now with $110 billion arms proposal that goes to the saudis, guaranteed one side in the war, against the shia. not just iranians, iraq and iran

and other places. so many directions it's almost impossible to know where it's going to start because it's never going to end. >> it is stark. you saw the president curtseying with the saudis, reveling in it, touching the orb, having a wonderful time and being warm with them. at the same time being weird and chilly toward our nato allies. i have to throw in the other thing that happened, other big headline from the trip, essentially outing which country he is that he burned in that oval office meeting with the russians by saying i never said israel. i never said israel. nobody said you said israel, donald trump. what do you make of that. no one said israel. no one had confirmed. people were trying to go out of their way not to confirm it was israel.

>> whether touching weird orb or outing spies from our allies or calling germany very bad, the host of things the biased mainstream media failed to identify that was the moment donald j. trip became president of the united states. there's so much here, i go to jack. if this man wants to travel country to country, go through expedia. look, all of this happened in the context the day before we find out that jared kushner and flynn were trying to set up back channels comes, clandestine communications with the russians. the only thing i can say we have to view that in the context of what happens. basically everything donald trump did in europe to disparage nato benefits russians. that seems to be the unifying theme to everything he does. it's crazy. the tentacles every waking moment, what can i do to help vladimir putin. there's nothing to say. it's remarkable. >> let's be honest, it wasn't

the trip about playing to the world but playing to his base, showing he could travel and receive red carpet from world leaders. it's about playing to donald trump's base and not keeping americans safe. >> we're out of time. look at the crowds of barack obama. look at the faces when he's near them. barack obama is out there and got lots of love. he was there with angela merkel and got humongous, enormous crowds. it must really bother donald trump. but it was his big boy trip. >> back later in the show. thank you. big boy trip. up next, the politics. stay with us. break through your allergies.

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she's back there, little katie, she's back there. what a lie it was. katy tur. >> this sleazy guy over here from abc. he's sleaze. i have a running war with the media. they are among the most dishonest beings on earth. >> donald trump's attacks on the media were just words. words that whip up people at his rallies to assault protesters but words nonetheless. this week the country witnessed a real escalation on what it means for a politician to attack the media. when a candidate himself, not someone he inspired at a rally, the candidate himself physically attacked a journalist. the politician was greg gianforte. it's he was the candidate to filled the house seat in montana. gianforte made news for

literally assaulting a member of the press on the eve of the special election after ben jacobs from the guardian accused gianforte of body slamming him while he was trying to ask a question about the republican health care bill before a campaign event. here is now the infamous audio. >> cbo score. because you know, you were waiting to make your decision about the bill. >> let me talk to you about that later. >> yeah. but there's not going to be time. i'm just curious. >> last time you did this you did the same thing. get the hell out of here. >> last time you did the same thing. you with "the guardian"? >> you just body slammed me and broke my glasses. >> he was charged with assault. turns out that recording and assault charge which, again, came one day before special election were not a deterrent for montana's republican voters who handed gianforte a narrow victory and seat in congress on thursday.

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last night i made a mistake. i took an action i cannot take back. i'm not proud of what happened. i should not have treated that reporter that way. for that, i'm sorry, mr. ben jacobs. >> well, new congressman elect gianforte apologized for slamming "guardian" reporting ben jacobs but only after winning montana's special election. despite being charged with misdemeanor assault, he narrowly defeated rob quist on thursday. gianforte faces a court appearance in montana next month.

joining me msnbc political contributor jason johnson and breitbart news reporter michelle fields. thank you for being here. initial, you have the unique resume for this segment of having had encounters with campaign people who feel that journalists are fair game when mr. cory lewandowski decided to shove you out of the way at an event. do you think this culture of treating members of the media as props as campaign to be jeered at as donald trump did with katy tur or boo them and physically assault them. is this a thing in the republican base and why is it if it is? >> yes, unfortunately it is the thing. conservatives have always been skeptical of the media. they have always had a very wary relationship with them. the reason why, they feel like they are all democrats. they are democrats trying to make fun of them and don't put the story out correctly. the problem is, i think this has

been very much accelerated during the trump administration. it's no longer that they distrust the media, they now despise the media, and it's created this -- it seems everything is entirely situational. in the case of ben jacobs. if ben jacobs had been attacked by a democrat rather than a republican, i think ben jacobs would be the media darling of the right wing. he would be on every headline of breitbart, back-to-back coverage on fox news. because it is a republican, it's completely different. so everything seems very situation am. but this antagonistic relationship trump has with reporters, i don't think that's going away. i think the conservative base is going to continue to have that it's been like that for quite sometime. it's just stronger.

>> it starts at the top, jason. starts at the top. this is donald trump who took some time out of his big boy trip abroad to make comments about gianforte. take a listen. going one step below that, less listen to the various republicans who refuse to reject gianforte even after he assaulted the reporter. had the head of the national republican campaign committees, the chair, said from what i know for greg gianforte, this is totally out of character. charlie dent saying, he was charged we don't know the facts. franks from arizona, the left has intense confrontation approach. if he wins, he'll have won election fair and square. a congressman from wisconsin, i think he'd be very welcome here in congress. seems like a good guy. just one more, one more. this is a tweet from the governor of texas, the current sitting governor of texas greg abbott showing reporters a target sheet. i don't know if we have this element, this is from my

producers. he says i'm going to carry this around in case i see any reporters. that's supposed to be a joke, jason. >> this is disgusting. it's cowardly. this is how democracy dies. i'll start off with this, joy. first off, gianforte should be ashamed of himself. i hope they throw the book at him even though the sheriff gave to his campaign. if you're not tough enough, responsible enough, disciplined enough to take questions about the budget you're not responsible enough to go to washington, d.c. i promise you, i promise you if you try a stunt like this with some of the reporters i know in d.c. you will see these hands in lawsuits in ways you can't comprehend in montana. that's the first thing. the second thing, i think this is dangerous not because it represents a cowardice on the part of the president of the united states but a cowardice on the part of a political party that has to know good reporting helps everybody. having investigative reporters helps everybody. if you claim these reporters are bad and terrible under these circumstances you're going to miss out when they are investigating the other side. it's dangerous to democracy and should be an embarrassment to

paul ryan and any republican who wants to support this guy. >> i'm not a big fan of this for the voter. i think we give them a pass on a lot of things. they have been critical of culture, they have talked about hip-hop, rap culture being violent. let's take a look at a couple of examples of culture inside the republican party. there was a chilling picture that came from -- this is november, the day before the election. it was a trump rally, a man had am shirt, rope. tree. journalist. he hashtagged it 2016. essentially a lynching motif on his shirt. in montana, gianforte voter talking after she knew he beat up ben jacobs. >> it didn't make me question my vote because i think he can do a good job.

he has a business background, and i know him personally. i think he can do a good job. i think he made a mistake not holding his cool. >> michelle, this is somebody not only violent with this reporter, he has a history of being erratic, he's tied to a suspected white nationalist and saying, i wasn't aware of some of his views. he's tied to a pastor who wrote that black families were stronger under slavery. this is not an unknown quantity. he's a guy with a bad history, a thuggish presence and yet the voters of montana are fine wit. >> i'm a conservative. i cannot defend that. that's just absolutely horrible. i do think you're right in a sense that it comes from the top. republican party as conservatives we always like to say we're the party of personal responsibility. if you do something wrong, you ask for forgiveness, apologize and do better. we believe in the rule of law, law and order. it does seem now with conservatives, not all conservatives but many

high-profile conservatives rather support and take the side of the party than the side of civility, human decency. you saw, i don't know, laura ingraham, a big conservative basically applauding this, that ben jacobs didn't go and fight back. he got his lunch money taken away. this is not conservative, very unconservative. >> not since the caning of charles sumner by a pro slavery south carolina senator have we seen this mainstreaming violence. it has happened before. it is happening again. jason johnson back later in the show. new to the show, michelle fields. we'll have you back. coming up, trump administration just reacted to the latest jared kushner story. keep it here.

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we have more on the breaking bombshell news in that "washington post" report that jared kushner sought to set up a secret communication channel to the kremlin through the russian embassy. this morning, h.r. mcmaster responded to the report during an off-camera press briefing in sicily. hallie jackson is there. what did mcmaster have to say? >> hey, joy, not a whole lot, nothing specifically related to jared kushner and jerry combs, top economic adviser had no answer. i asked general mcmaster, the national security adviser, about the kushner reporting and he said i am not prepared to answer those questions. kicked it over to sean spicer

who had nothing to say and shook his head. they said they had nothing to add at this time. later the national security adviser was asked more generally by "the washington post" about back channel communications overall. not in a specific situation but in a general sense and the national security adviser said, he saw nothing inappropriate with back channels. that they're used to communicate in a discreet matter. the aides today wanted to focus more on this trip, more on the g7, more on the week that was. what they viewed as the president's accomplishments in saudi arabia and israel and at the nato summit talking with the nations there, and the g7 and what came out of that, including, for example, discussions about trade, et cetera. but you know in these settings, you can't control the questions. and the president is flying back to these questions and to this domestic crisis that's engulfed

the white house. >> they want to talk about the trip. they want to make you talk about what they call their accomplishments but they don't want to do it on camera. kelly o'donnell had an extraordinary report with thomas roberts earlier. you aren't able to do on-camera direct briefing ofs with donald trump or his aides and only the u.s. pool is in this situation. >> right. well, definitely not donald trump. typically on a foreign trip like this, as you know, we would have a news conference with the president. that is not happening. we're at the -- i'm about to walk off the bus where the president is going to speak to troops. unless there's a surprise there, we'll leave this trip having not heard from president trump, which is highly unusual. you know we had one on-camera briefing with secretary tillerson last week in saudi arabia. he has briefed on camera, but on air force one. just the pool, the smaller group of reporters. not all open press members.

this briefing was the second one that was not on camera. we asked for it to be on camera. the ground rules were, no, it was going to be off camera, although on the record. i would characterize the mood in the room, regardless of what the administration wanted to talk about, the reporters had a series of questions relating to the domestic issues and continued pressing on those questions, despite the administration officials in the room continuing to essentially -- >> and it's extraordinary. cannot say it enough how unusual that is. nbc's hallie jackson. thank you for joining us from italy. appreciate it. back with me, malcolm nantz and jack rice. i stress that. they did not want to deal with the kushner news. they batted that away and sent h.r. mcmaster out there to be the guy. he seemed not to want to take too many bullets. he punted the question about kushner. how unusual is it for the traveling american press pool not to get live briefings with the president they are traveling with and not to get any

on-camera briefings at all? >> part of the purpose of having american press on the trip is to maintain this transparency with the american people so the american people know what our leader is doing on our behalf. that's denying us, the american public, the access that we deserve. it also usually, our show to other countries to promote freedom of the press. so this is setting a pattern for other countries like saudi arabia where you don't have any freedoms of press or gathering or protest that their behavior is okay and allowing that to happen. now h.r. mcmaster is now being brought party to this because they are putting his uniform out there to validate and justify -- >> they are calling -- they are saying you have the numbers and the approval ratings. we'll shove you out there. this is extraordinary. you have an american press pool. we are the only western country, kelly o'donnell reported this earlier. all of the other media pools are

getting access to the leaders they are traveling with. the united states has a traveling press pool that can only get off-camera briefings, and all they want, hallie jackson and others to do is say their accomplishments and show the pictures that are coming either from foreign press or submitted to them by the white house of him holding the oar or doing the sword dance. this does not feel like a western, open democratic press to me. this is not what the united states does. >> joy, it's not extraordinary. it's outrageous. it's outrageous because donald trump works for the american people. he works for you, me, all of us. and the purpose of what he is doing is he is doing something or supposed to be doing something for the benefit of all of us collectively. we're not seeing that right now. and that's the outrage. >> last word to you malcolm nantz. this is orchestrating and micromanaging it in a way that does not feel like western democracy to me. >> i jokingly have said that donald trump has a russian information warfare management advisory group in the white

house. now i'm starting to wonder whether that's true. he is using the kremlin playbook for the control of information. it's disgraceful, and no american should stand for this. >> and they have not answered for kushner. we have much more news ahead. keep it right here on msnbc. ♪ ♪ i'm dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. ♪ energy lives here.

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when you have the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. ameriprise it's been a night of breaking news on top of breaking news. president trump's son-in-law jared kushner had at least three previously undisclosed contacts with the russian ambassador to the united states during and after the 2016 presidential campaign. seven current and former u.s. officials told reuters. tonight's reuters report also notes fbi investigators are examining whether russians suggested to kushner or other trump aides that relaxing