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thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live. i'm stephanie raul, i'll see you tomorrow at u9:00. right now on "andrea mitchell reports." hot topic, the forecast has donald trump pulling back from the land mark climate change deal. former secretary of state james baker this morning. >> well, i hope he doesn't pull us out of it. on the other hand, i think it is important that we have something that we can point to that would fulfill our obligations under the accord rather than just walking away from it. >> we'll hear from both sides, a leading senator and noted climate skeptic and a well-known scientist weighing in. vladimir putin says patrioticly minded russians may have hacked
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the election. congress is preparing for james comey and they are blind sided by the house chair. so, the russians in my opinion, and based on the intell and counter intel, could not have known how best to weaponize that information dmunless they were guided -- >> guided by american sf? >> guided by americans. good day, everyone, the official policy is to punt all questions to the president's private lawyer. someone forgot to tell the president. he tweeted today in response to comey's anticipated system the big story is the unmasking and
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surveillance of people that took place in the obama administration. joining me now is kristin welker. also nbc's matt bradley. welcome, first to you, you're getting stonalled from the press secretary and other top officials but the president is out tweeting. i guess that russia is still front and center. >> yes, and the president is stepping on the message of the press secretary. they were referring to questions, but today, president trump starting off the day with a tweet, as you point out, saying the real issue here is the unmasking of surveillance of people that took place during the obama administration.
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no surprise. this is a narrative he has been pushing for quite some time. we know they are set to hear from former fbi director james comey. he will be in the hot seat. all eyes will be watching and listening very closely to what he has to say particularly about that reported memo in which he says that the president pushed him to drop the investigation. will he talk about that during the hearing, that is the big question masrk. this is a staff that wants to stay focused on the president's agenda. they want to be talking about jobs and health care. i thinkhat fm the podium, that is theessage you're going to hear. what we will get from the president remains to be scene. but it doesn't appear as though at this point, andrea, he is letting up on the tweeting. >> and matt miller, now we have a copy of a letter that path
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lehey and another democrat have sent asking for an investigation to find out if jeff sessions, a former colleague and friend of al franken gave false testimony by not disclosing an additional contact he had last year, last spring. >> jeff session's role in this entire matter is one that bears a lot of questions. we know that he did not disclose a first set of meetings, and a lot of people gave him the bit of the doubt. but the problem is he foled that up with questions that he again didn't disclose. it is hard not to see that as an intentional act. if you look at the other places he intersects, he is supposed to be recused. he know he took that action mauz
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he was unhappy with the russian investigation. we need to hear if he had any conversations with the president on how com was handling that investigation. that could be a major violation. >> i want to bring matt bradley in in just a moment. this flurry of subpoenas. two major figures, of course the lawyer, mr. cohn, michael cohn from donald trump, and at the same time, we are getting a flurry of subpoenas covering former obama officials, what the president was referring to in his tweet, but only from devin nunes who recused himself but is now going off on his own. i wanted to ask you about that and the procedure. >> apparently without any
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consultation from the democrats on the committee. it seems completely appropriate. at the same time he is continuing to pursue what has been show to be a side show. everyone that looks as this says nothing inappropriate happened. the thing that is so odd about the subpoena social security he went in the nsa, the fbi, the cia, he would have just asked them for that information. the fact that he sent a subpoena on the day they see subpoenas for michael cohn and michael flynn maybes it like like there a parallel investigation. >> thais thee coming out of the twhus it is all about the leaks. >> just yesterday the president referred to the russia probe as a witch hunt. this is a narrative you will continue to hear from the president as he plays defense. we know she setting up war room
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here, expect the response to become more robust behind the scenes, but they're not letting up on a charge that this is a witch hunt and the real investigation should focus on the leaks and the unmasking of individuals. >> you just interviewed the former -- a chief of staff at a time when the guardian newspaper is reporting that he is being looked at by the fbi for farage's involvement in the investigation. >> just to give the viewers a little back, just a culle hours ago, a new article in the guardian dropped saying a new person of interest in the fbi investigation, in the collusion, between trump and russia is niguel farage. he was the former head of the
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united kingdom inpendent party. he was a major champion of brexit. that is when britains voted to leave the european union and that had massive economic aftershocks ever since. but he is a fan, a outspoken fan, of trudonald trump who is y unpopular all throughout europe. never the less, there has been a lot of right-wing sentiment. nigel farage may be a person of interest and the connective tissue between roger stow, and the ahead of wikileaks, julien a assage. so he is the first non-russian
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person of interest. and the current bureau chief in london of breitbart, and the former chief of staff to farage said the whole think is ridiculous. the same response from the trump camp. he said that at this point the fbi is considering everyone a peon of terest, and that he was appealing to the media to discern what he concerned widely inaccurate quotes, and he was the man that introdosed him to roger stone, and they they never met before and never participated in any collusion between russia, trump, and wi
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wikileaks. the senate intel committee, the chairman has announced that james comey will testify next thursday, june 8th. june 8th will be the day that james comey. 10:00 a.m., open session, and matt miller, back to you for a moment, what it seems to be cleared by mueller is that he will be able to talk about communications with the president regarding the fbi probe, but not the russia probe itself. >> that's right. i think we'll have to see in this hearing are there anything about those conversations that jim comey is not prepared to go into detail about. >> can the white house push back and claim executive privilege? or not the case because the fbi chief does not work for --
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>> no, they can privilege. and it would be very weak. it is usually for someone that works there, he is already gone. there is real no enforcement mechanism to prevent him from testifying. >> thanks, all. our next guest is right in the middle of all of this, california congressman adam schiff joining me now from the west coast. thank you very much. >> thanks, andrea. first the subpoenas. the house were your committee, jointly announced with the republican acting chair, or the chair who stepped in for devin nunes after who recused himself, you announced that you're investigating or rather subpoenaing michael cohn, his
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law firm, and michael flynn. so four subpoenas in all. when did you first learn there was three more subpoenas that had been issued by the chair by devin nunes apparently on his own? >> there are two issues here, first mr. conway and agree tha en we ask people to cooperate and they don't, we will subpoena them and they were not willing to cooperate, so we agreed to the approval, and now the chair has to sign the subpoenas unless that authority is delegated to someone else and it should have been for mike conway. i think it is a violation of the recusal by the gentleman. i think it should have covered whether or not he participated at all in the firing of the person leading the fbi investigation. so i think in both cases,
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commitments to recuse themselves have not been fully honored. i hope that will change, but the second issue involvements three other subpoenas that went out without consultation. i only learned about this late the night before, and that is a problem. these were sent out unilaterally by the chairman, and i think they're part of the white house desire to shift attention away from the probe and on to the issue of unmasking, but mr. conaway and i are determined not to lose our focus on the russian investigation, so we are not going to let the other stuff distract us. >> he has the legal right to issue the subpoenas unilater unilaterally, right? or doehe say it will restrict him. they are trying to say the unmasking issue is a separate issue from the russia investigation from which he recused himself.
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>> it certainly doesn't appear separate to the president and the question is for the steaker of the house. she dez he is designates one committee and it is ultimately his call. my responsibility is to work with mr. conaway and make sure the investigation gets downright. so that is what we're keeping our focus on, but if the speaker wants to allow this kind of thing to go on, that is really up to him and i think he will ultimate i will be held accountable for how this is conducted. >> why would a subpoena be necessary if you have oversight over the nsa and the fbi counter intelligence investigations, and the cia, certainly as the intelligence committee, why can't a request be made to those agencies for any classified reports that could involve legitimate or improper unmasking. >> i don't think they are
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necessary. i think the agencies are cooperating with us. i don't think they have demonstrated any intend to withhold information. so i don't really see the point. i think the intellince communities and agencies are working in kbait with us as part of our ordinary overnight of issues and minimalization. don't think they were necessary, but they were consulted if the majority or the chairman felt there was a problem, he didn't share that problem with us. >> let me ask you about the apparent decision, the move by the trump had madministration, compoun compounds, that were seized from the russians outside of the city as sanctions, as punishment, for the russian hacks of the election under obama. what is your reaction to that?
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>> i would be horrified if the trump administration returned them or allowed them to be returned to them. they were part of the sanctions imposed for russian interfeerene in the campaign. if the president is returning the use of these properties, reallowing the russians to use them for espionage, and it is being done, you know for what reason? without any kind of a move by the russians in some way or acknowledgme acknowledgment, or return of other u.s. properties, if it is just a reward, it begs questions why they would even contemplate such a thing. >> there is talk that the u.s.
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some compensate them for the properties. >> of course, but you have to give the russians credit for creativity. putin recently said that it is possible the russians were involved in the hacking of our democratic institutions after all, but -- excuse me. >> putin said he didn't do it but patriotic minded russians may have been involved in the hacking. how do you take that? >> excuse me, well, i take it with a lot of levity, actually. because it reminds me quite a lot of of putin's claim that these little, excuse me, these little green men that were in ukraine were not at all russian soldiers, had nothing to do with
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russia, and the acknowledgment that while they maybe patriots acting on their own, that was not true, and the claim that these were maybe patriotic russians acting on their own is not true. we we cannot believe or accept -- excuse me. anything coming out of the kremlin, but we can't be surprised they would be making these absurd arguments. >> well, i want to thank you, congressman, we have all fwbeen there with the spring allege issues. thank you for powering through the interview. we were happy to have you and we'll talk to you soon. >> thanks. terrific. >> joe biden 2020? fuelling speculation, he is launches a super pac and the person that knows him best is weighing in. >> joe is not going away, he
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he needs to empower one person. make sure everyone understands that is the guy or the lady, and give them the authority to run the white house. they need a strong chief of staff and they badly need a
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message discipline. you can't run something as big of the government unless everyone is singing from the same hymnal. joining me now is bill crystal and former chief of staff and a veteran of the obama white house and obama campaign. from the dan quail chief of staff -- >> surrounded by vice presidential staff members. a very big deal. let me just, as a throw back, bill you and i remember the reagan white house years. i as a young reporter thought wow, this is wonderful, lks from three divisions. so you had three streams of loyal staff members, this has
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got it all beat. there is far more than three power centers in this white house. >> yeah, and you can afford a certain amount of chaos and creative destruction or noncreative destruction if you have a president that knows the way he wants to go and delegates power to key people. defense policy, they kind of had their policy made up early on, and the rest of it you can afford a lot of minor league problems. the problem with this administration is they don't even have the major courses of action laid out. >> and jim baker, as you all probably studied from the textbooks of how he would run -- the legislative strategy, ron you came in to fix some messes later on on a number of issues, the meetings in the morning
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saying the targets, and then the meetings at night, i don't see any of that from this team. >> i agree with that, but it starts at the top. you can't have a message meeting in the morning if the first thing is to see the president tweeted at 6:00 a.m. o at midnight. >> in the end, white houses reflect the president. i worked for two presidents that were very different people, but they had a clear idea of what they were doing, what they were trying to do, and getting it done. we have seen a lot of noise and mess but no action to deliver on his agenda. there has been no progress on it. >> all you had to navigate was the disputes between the vice president and the first lady that was competing with him for things like health care and other big issues. that was not an easy --
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>> there are always rivaling people. it is all about setting the tone, getting things done. i'm not a fan or friend of reince pre biebus, but to blame on him is unfair. the president creates this. it will not be fixed until he changes wait he is being president and fix it. >> here we had hillary clinton yesterday out in silicon valley talking about russia and the russian investigation. >> we went and told everybody we could find in the middle of the summer that the russian's were messing with the election, and we were basically shooed away. comey was more than happy to talk about my e-mails, but not the investigation of the russian's. people went to vote on november 8th having no idea there was an active counter-intelligence
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investigation going on of the trump campaign. >> jim baker and other people said that comey was wrong to go into the detail he did, the deputy ag could have done that rather than the fbi investigator on her on november 5th. >> there are a million ways we could have done the election and come wum different issues. he would not have been recused, and james comey -- >> she probably should take that attitude now. she lost a tough race and thinks the country is worse for it, i'm not sure she is the best person to make the arguments. >> and he is back, joe biden, a political action committee? what's up with that. >> the vice president is the most in demand surrogate and advocate right now. people want him on the stump, he
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needs a political action committee, he will play a big part in 2018. he is a great messeng enmesseng. >> i'm sure he wants to run in 2020. ron will be an excellent chief of staff in the white house, and i'm in favor of former vice president chiefs of staff becoming the presidential chief of staff. we have to take him at his word. he might run for president in 2020 but is not planning on it or thinking about it right now. keeping the door open, but seems unlikely. the decision to open a political committee right now is really more about helping democrats win in 2018. she a happ he is a happy warrior. he will do a great job for
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democrats all over. >> might well run for in the 2020. did you hear that? >> i think we made progress here today? >> chiefs of staff to all of the vice president's in recent history. expect more on the russia story. we have a big announcement, sunday night megyn kelly premiers on nbc, he have be sitting down for a one on one interview with vladimir putin at the conclusion of tomorrow's st. pet petersburg international forum. it will air at 7:00 eastern, 6:00 central. coming up, decision day, the president makes his announcement on the paris climate accord in a few hours. calling for himo ditch the deal, he will join me next here on "andrea mitchell reports." i wanted to know who i am and where i came from. i did my ancestrydna
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we're going to cancel the paris climate agreement. hillary clinton and al gore support the paris deal that will
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cost america over $5 trillion the paris deal also allows china, the world's largest polluter by far, to increase emissions for more than a dozen years while the united states makes drastic cuts immediately, right now. what is that all pabt? why are we not doing it together? who negotiates our deals. >> that is donald trump saying he will pull out of the paris accord. will he agree to some last minute compromise objecting to all parts of the agreement? 21 senators wrote to him saying we eng couracourage you to maken break. senator, thank you very much for being with us. >> nice to be with you about andrea. >> first, do you know anything from the president or the white house about what to expect at
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3:00? will you will pleased or disappointed? >> i will be pleased because it will be a complete pullout. can i just mention one reason. you might recall the commitment that the president made, president obama made in paris. he said that we in the united states would reduce our co 2 e meg -- emissions between 26% and 28%. number one, you can't do it. his own epa said there is no way in the world that we could reduce emissions by that much. the other reason is that other countries don't realize our form of government. the 192 nations that heard the president say that didn't know that the congress has to agree to this. and congress is already spoken several times, they could not get 36 votes out of the united states senate for that agreement. i think it is important that any time the president makes a statement that quite frankly he
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knew at the time that he would not be able to do, that this is not a good thing for us to stay in. the other thing that has to be considered, i think, i just heard a -- president trump making the statement back there that china was not going to agree to any kind of reduction. in fact, andrea, they are cranking out an additional coal powered plant every ten days in china. they said they will continue doing that until 2025, and then they will consider reducing their emissions. what kind of a deal is that? it is not a very good deal. >> china and the eu, the chinese prime minister was in berlin today. and he, and the eu, which he is the biggest market. and china is showing leadership while if the president does this, the u.s. is taking a big step back. just a couple scientific points,
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you have all of these business leaders, shell, exxon mobile, and others, joining together and urging the president saying it will hurt job growth and hurt the economy to take a step back. that they're doing more with renewable energy and other aspects of the energy development sector. then they would do if he cancels this accord. also, just on the science of it alone, senator, the last three years were the hottest on record. the arctic warming twice as fast as the rest of the earth, the ocean becoming more acidic. the glaciers are disappearing, fish migration, how do you respo respond? >> science is divided on those issues. >> no, these are government and scientific reports that these
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are facts. >> let me take them one at a time. >> first of all, you talk about the corporations. the corporations are divided. some of them have multinational arrangements where, it is part of their benefit to be apart of something, and some are not that case. it would be a huge job los for erica. if we tried to make t reductions that -- i don't know what would happen to our manufacturing base, i do know this, from the experience that we had going back as far as the ke copenhagen arrangement, china at that time was very anxious for america to be pulling out if they could, because they would be getting our manufacturing base. i would have to say this, that jackson, the obama's epa director at the time, i asked the questions if we were to be doing some of these things, what would they be the effect? would they be reducing co 2
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emissions from america. their answer was no because this is where the problem is. we have arraignments made, and this is not a treaty, of course. but if we know, in our minds, that we cannot do what he committed us to do, this is something that we need to be out of. >> and just finally, one of the things that jim baker suggested was a rebatebable carbon tax. would you be for it if he submitted it. >> it is not a treaty, if it were changed to a treaty, i would vote against it, but none the less it would come to the senate. had this before the senate five times since 2002. and they have rejected it every time either in the form of a
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regulation or legislation. keep in mind they first tried to do it with legislation, and that didn't work. >> senator, thank you so much. we'll all be watching at 3:00 when the president will make his announcement. >> after that time, i would love to come back and visit with you. >> i would love that too, thank you very much, let's schedule it. >> michael mann joining us with his take on the paris accords. stay with us here on msnbc. ♪
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welcome back, joininge now is michael mann, a climate scientist whose work was key in showing that the global temperatures have risen dramatically because of humans. if it is driving you crazy, let me get you to react to the contention from senator inhoff that science is still divided. >> we're still wback in this ma house. we thought we moved past it, but some of our most senior elected representatives still deny that climate change is even happening. i do note th respond to your ef to get him to comment on the fact that the three warmest
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years on record were all in the last three years. i took that as an indication that maybe he moved slightly beyond the outright denial of the science, but he is still denying the problem, he is denying the impact that climate change is halving. his own state, oklahoma, is very much on the front lines of climate change impacts. they saw the worse drought on record, the worst heat wave, and texas and oklahoma lost something like 25% of their cattle. agriculture was devastated, and they demonstrated that drought was worse and longer because of human-caused climate change. it afflicted his own state and there will be more of the same if we continue on this path. >> what about the contention that china is not doing it's part. they're the biggest emitters, so why should the u.s. make
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sacrifices and sacrifice jobs and economic growth at home? >> yeah, that is a five year old assertion. and he continues to use it but it is wrong. china is investing far more in renewable toolg than any other country. they have started to decommission coal fired plants, they're decommissioning them because they understand the impacts of the environmental degradation of air. they are investing massively. they invested so much in solar paneltolo panel technology that they flooded the marketplace and brought prices down for everyone. are we going to get on the clean rch energy revolution, or will we be left behind and let other countries like china lead the world. >> thank you for weighing in
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today. the blame game, hillary clinton's candid indictment of the 2016 election.
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i set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. i get the nomination, so i'm now the nominee of the democratic party. i inherit nothing from the democratic party. >> what do you mean, nothing? >> i mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. >> that comment by hillary clinton caused president trump to go after her on twitter. the president responding to that and other comments in a candid new interview about her election loss and tweeted, quote, cook keds hillary clinton now blames everybody but herself and refuses to say she was a terrible candidate hits facebook and even dems and dnc. clinton firing back with a cheeky response of her own,
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people in covfefe houses shouldn't throw covfefe. joining me for the inside scoop is ann guerin diplomatic correspondent and jean cummings, washington journal deputy chief. we covered hillary clinton for 18 months on the road and there's a lot that resonates in what she said, some people are questioning the tone and whether she acknowledges enough, you know, fault on her own part, but they were sounding the alarm about russia, nobody was listening and it's indisputable that jim comey went into chapter and verse on july 5th about everything she had done wrong by his view and never mentioned that he started an investigation of russia and that trump people back in july? >> sure. i mean clinton gets a lot of criticism for fighting the last war goi back over all the reon tt external reasons that she lost by, you know, what she -- the reason she says she
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lost. she's making up a slightly different point here about the dnc saying that they didn't have money to help support her, that their data operations were poor, they were -- that the dnc, which is supposed to support the presidential nominee was providing bad information. that's a deeper indictment that actually goes back, you know, deep into the obama administration and although she didn't directly blame him, certainly a lot of partisans say obama didn't invest as the head of the democratic party, didn't invest enough time and energy at the grassroots level to making sure the party was ready to support a democratic nominee when he was through. i think -- i was surprised by the tone, for sure, although she definitely gets style points for the covfefe tweet. >> and jean, the first time she was very explicit about the internet war, info wars and the
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others, and saying that mercers campaign fund-raisers of donald trump who owned cambridge analytics signed on but said you have to bring kellyanne conway and steve bannon which from our reporting was correct, that was a package deal, and that that led she claims directly to what was going on in the digital space, to jared kushner, running that operation, and she's suggesting there were americans connected to the russian cutouts because only americans would have been smart enough to mine the rather ten years of document dumps from john podesta's e-mails and pick the things most damaging. >> there's been a suspicion that all of us have had, that it was -- there was a level of sophistication in it that you don't expect to find in the back hills of russia. >> is that illegal, though? what russia did is one issue but
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is it illegal for americans to have worked with the cutouts and said grab that e-mail about the catholic vote and dump in on pennsylvania the day she's in scranton. >> we don't know what happened and i would imagine there are varying levels of involvement that range from benign and not nice to illegal. i mean we did a story on a blogger in florida that received some of this data from gusy fer and then that blogger contacted roger stone. so i mean then you -- you have a document dump that, you know, has come through a couple layers, do you use that data? yeah, probably. so i mean there's a lot of investigation that has to go on here but clearly the timing of the podestaump on the day of the -- >> the "acces hollywood" tape. that's an operative at work and doing their job well. >> ann and jean, we'll be right back. think again.
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that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow us on-line on facebook and twitter @mitchell reports and we'll be back at 3:00 as part of our coverage of the president's announcement on climate with brian williams. katie tur is up next on msnbc. >> good afternoon to you. i'm katie in for craig melvin at msnbc headquarters in new york. countdown to comey, we have a
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date, one week from today, james comey, fired fbi director, well testify before the house intelligence committee. will president trump try to block his testimony? putin's pushback. vladimir putin admits russians could have been behind cyber attacks to help donald trump's presidential campaign. and is he finally coming clean? and president trump is set to reveal his decision on whether he'll exit the global climate agreement. will he bid ado to the paris accord? >> we start with the announcement from the senate intelligence committee, former fbi director james comey will testify publicly and for the first time before one of the congression congressional panels leading the investigation into russia and the 2016 investigation. the announcement a few hours before president trump is scheduled to speak from the white house rose garden on whether the u.s. will leave the paris climate change agreement. let's get right to our reporters and analysts, peter alexander is at t