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♪ take on the mainstream. introducing nissan's new midnight edition. ♪ good evening. i'm richard lui. breaking developments into the terror attack on the london bridge and at borough market in the uk. a report out tonight, that isis is laying claim to the london attack at this time, though, nbc has not confirmed that reporting. this van was removed. and recently released video shows the trio of alleged assailants walking through borough market where they went on a stabbing spree, before being shot and killed by police there. now, this morning, british police arrested 12 people in in
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left seven dead and more wounded. this is the third deadly attack in the uk since march and it has the city of london and the rest of the world on alert. here's british prime minister theresa may. >> progress in recent years there is, to be frank, far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. >> joining us from london is nbc's matt bradley. matt, tell us first about what we understand about this claim of responsibility coming from isis. >> thanks, richard. isis' semiofficial news agency claimed responsibility a few hours ago. now, it is hard to tell exactly what that means because in the past, they have claimed responsibility for other attacks that -- without providing any real proof they were behind them, almost seemed like claims of responsibility more opportunistic than truthful. in the past, isis has seemed to sort of piggyback on other
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attacks, or claim attacks that turned out to not be attacks at all. so we need to wait a little while longer. it is not even clear if police themselves will be able to determine how closely connected these three assailants were with isis, and isis' ideology. moving forward, this is going to be a new wrinkle in this investigation and as you already mentioned, richard, police have arrested a dodson people in east london, in and around the area of barking. this investigation is likely to expand into a nationwide or international manhunt. remember, we talk about the incidents fairly regularly and in the past, throughout europe, these sorts of attacks have most often involved lone wolf attackers. that means the police only have to investigate one person. that's actually more of a challenge with this case. we have three perpetrators. that means three sets of friends, three sets of family, and three different sets of co-workers that really expands
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the footprint of any investigation and the potential number of people that police can look into to interview or investigate. again, already within first 24 hours, police arrested 12 people. you can expect that number to go up as police kick down doors throughout the country. it is not just those 12 people and the victims of this attack who have been ensnared. politics throughout britain have come literally to a stand still as politicians have said they're going to be suspending campaigning until tomorrow. now, that is a very difficult thing to do because the elections are just on thursday. and this event was always going to be politicized. i'm glad you showed that snippet from theresa may's speech, she came out and actually had some very pointed things to say about how britain should be confronting islamic terrorism in the coming months, clearly britons are fed up with the repeated attacks, the third in as many months. but a lot of her opponents and
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many members of the media called her out and said she was actually home secretary, the equivalent of an interior minister, for seven years. for six years, before she was prime minister. so it is going to be hard for theresa may to make the argument that she had nothing to do with policies against terrorists or in favor of law enforcement over the past couple of years. going to be very hard for her to distance herself from responsibility and to try to reform a system that she helped to create over much of the past decade. now, jeremy corbyn, the labor leader, he came out and assailed theresa may and said she was trying to increase security for britons on the cheap. so while both of these politicians have been trying their best and making statements saying they weren't going to be politicizing this horrible crime last night that killed seven people, committed by these three terrorists, they already in trying to distance themselves from politics politicized this event. richard? >> matt, in fact, one of the new
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headlines just out on the washington post, it says just that, london attacks spawns political controversy as may and corbyn trade barbs ahead of vote. as we're at the 1:00 a.m. hour in london, it was a much busier 1:00 a.m. hour 24 hours ago. what is the pace of activity you're aware of since you were down there, on the streets, at one of the sites of the attacks? do you know what they're going to be doing now? taking a break, moving through the morning hours? >> well, our understanding from the police is that they're going to be just burning the candle at both ends, richard. this is an investigation, if you recall, we spoke last night and you and i were really trying to parse out exactly what was going on. so much chaos and confusion now 24 hours later we have a much, much better idea of what happened. and we were able to hear from the police, the met, also known
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as scotland yard, of course, several times over the past 24 hours and theresa may herself and they cleared up a lot of the confusion that you and i were having last night when we were discussing this. one thing they mentioned that is rather significant is that these previous two attacks are not connected. they said that with great confidence. the previous two attacks, the one in manchester, and the one in westminster bridge back in march are not connected to this current attack. but theresa may went ahead and said they are connected to this extremist islamist ideology that she says needs to be confronted more forcefully. >> matt bradley, what we're seeing is the met, scotland yard, moving with great speed and great force and also being careful about the way they are pacing the discussion with the public, and the discussion with media based on what we -- what you and i were reporting last night and even to today. you're right, we could see yet more information come out in the coming hours.
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you mentioned theresa may, she was also saying what she would like to do to fix the problem, one of those items was we have got to look at the digital campaigns here. we have to look at the way community is being developed, not in face to face, but really in these -- in these virtual places, for instance, facebook and google responding just earlier today saying well, you know, we got that, we understand, and we are with you, this is not a good thing, but she is really going back to one of the items she brought up earlier. >> that's right, richard. this has been a favorite topic of theresa may's. she and amber rudd, one of her deputies, they have constantly said that tech companies need to be more cooperative with the government, especially when it comes to terrorism investigations. the fact she brought that up, within 24 hours of this attack, is going to raise a lot of accusations, again, she's
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politicizing this attack. that this is a can country in mourning, and that she went ahead and tried to, you know, attach one of her favorite political platforms to an attack that killed seven people. so, again, all of this lip service paid to not politicizing this terror attack while at the same time it is almost impossible to discuss it for among the politicians without it being politicized. >> news cycles moving so fast, matt, in terms of what needs to be asked and what needs to be answered. and finally before we let you go, there was a vigil tonight, we're also understanding a better complexion of the victims. >> that's right. the police have been reticent to release too much information too quickly. it is understood that most of -- some of the witnesses said they looked as though they were south asian. and there was a vigil tonight, but at the same time, i should mention there was a concert in manchester that ariana grande
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and several other major celebrities attended and this was a benefit concert for the benefit of another terrorist attack that occurred two weeks ago when 22 people were killed outside of an ariana grande concert in manchester. this is a country that is reeling from two very recent, very bloody terror attacks and the politics that are coming out of this are just undeniable. there has been a lot of conflict, even as the country mourns. >> that ariana grande concert, headlined there as we were monitoring it for many reasons, so important for britons, very young britons, to be there and a lot of tears from the artists there that ariana grande concert, all proceeds going to help the victims. matt, thank you so much, as always, working 25 hours a day for us there in london. matt bradley. for more on the investigation, i want to bring in brian leven and steve clemens, msnbc contributor and editor at large of the
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atlantic, national journal and courts, also michael alan, former majority staff director of the house permanent select committee on intelligence. steve, let's start with you. we're getting reports that isis is linking itself through its news agency to this attack. do you know any more, hearing any more based on your contacts? >> no, i'm not hearing any more yet. but it is -- had been reported by the site intelligence group that isis was taking -- isis affiliated media publication was taking credit for it. they have taken credit for things in past, it was -- there was an incomplete equation and so it was as matt brady just articulated, it wasn't perfectly clear that that was in fact the case. one of the notable things here is we're talking about perpetrators right now, we're not identifying these individuals. that's a big change from the manchester incident in which intelligence leaked out. so as they are knocking down doors, arresting people, the
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british authorities know who they're going after, and we will soon see whether those individuals travel to syria, travel to libya, were trained in various places and connected to isis or some other group. >> michael, we're now hitting this hour number 26 or so. where are we in this process of the importance of gathering information, looking at the forensics, they have just moved away the van earlier today, that was allegedly involved in this crime, in this terror incident. where do you think we are in the ark of the investigation? >> i think we're still early. look, i have a vision here of scotland yard, a number of interrogations going on of the associates' family and perhaps confederates of the terrorists here in this case. i kind of imagined that there is a room with sort of a puzzle spilled out on to a gigantic table and all of the pieces aren't there yet, and they're
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trying to piece it together, they want to know whether there are connections to other cells, they want to know if there are any other connections to isis directly and also looking and cooperating with intelligence services, i believe around the world. running the names down, trying to figure out their travel history and trying to get down to the nitty-gritty of who these folks were, how were they ra radicalized and if there are any other follow on attacks. >> follow on attacks and going through as has been reported, going to these homes, if you will, looking for more information. brian, you remember the pictures there, in your town, of san bernardino, not too long ago, where law enforcement, they were pouring through homes, specifically one home, where, again, the -- those who committed the terror attack were a couple, and so much information was coming out, just from that one location. what are some of the comparisons that you are making now with what we're seeing today, early
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on, of course, based on what happened in san bernardino when that terror attack happened? >> well, it turned out that they did not have a direct connection. the san bernardino terrorists were initially radicalized by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and planned attacks earlier and got cold feet and went forward with his radicalized wife. in this case, we're still trying to find if there is a greater direct connection to isis and whether or not they traveled in theater. the bbc and evan coleman, an nbc analyst, is reporting, i don't want to gift name, i don't want to -- we have to confirm that, but there is a radical cleric that a friend of one of the dead assailants listened to. hassan communicated with al
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awlaki before that, so we see encrypted communications coming up where people get the okay and say go ahead and do it. they talked about doing different types of attacks, but interestingly enough, they talked about executions and kidnappings. and hostage holding. so during this time of ramadan where isis is perverting the faith saying extra points in paradise, we have seen an increase in attacks, not only in england, but also in places like afghanistan, iraq. >> steve, this is an unfortunate benchmark for what a terror attack by definition is. we have ramadan, an election about to happen in days in the uk. the after effects, the ripple effects here fit in exactly with
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what these individuals wanted to accomplish here. >> look, terrorists and the people behind them who are pushing them or guiding them or coaching and mentoring these terrorists are performers on a stage. they try and find opportunities to get world attention, to try in this perverse way to look legitimate in the eyes of a certain public they're trying to attract to them, while they create fear and they want to have overreaction, particularly from societies like the united states, united kingdom, france, belgium and others, that overreaction, that overdeployment helps them fuel their story, helps them recruit more. it is an incredibly awful, evil, circle that feeds on itself, and i think that's what's been so impressive as we watched in -- i was on with you last nagight, y watch the police and the security officials, hear the stories, the methodic way that these security officials are operating, in england now, as we listen to london mayor, the
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steadiness, the sobriety of it, and the professionalism is an exact opposite of what terrorists want. >> brian, quickly, 30 seconds, the next three days, four days, are going to be very important as i was mentioning that election that is happening in the uk. do we expect, tough question to ask, do we expect more difficulties related to terrorism? >> yes, but here is the thing. britain has been very successful in rolling up a lot of the attacks. the problem is the least sophisticated are the ones that might be slipping through because they're the least shiny object in the box. so that is what we're seeing. and it is also a sign that isis is in trouble, as malcolm said in your network earlier, the thing is, like a cornered rabid animal, they're using external operations and telling people, do things where you live with whatever mechanism you have, and that's been their message for some time. even the guy who said that has been killed, but his message
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lives on. >> brian, thank you so much as well as steve clemens, with us for the last 24 hours on the story as well as michael alan. i owe you one, sir, as well. see you later this hour, by the way. we're following breaking news out of oregon. multiple rallies face off with one another over the death two of men who were stabbed on a train last week during a racial attack. now, portland police on high alert as crowds begin to throw projectiles at officers on the ground such as glass bottles, bricks and even motors. joining us from portland, oregon, jinah kim with more. motors? >> reporter: oh, boy, richard, it got really tense over here. we had the anti-fascist group that started throwing unmentionable items, let's say very foul smelling, at the police, they responded very hard by throwing tear gas and nonlethal items at the crowd, dispersing them. what is happening here now is
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that the pro trump rally that was here at the plaza just ended minutes ago. and the police were afraid that these pro trump people would be attacked as they left. we had counterprotesters on that side, counterprotesters on the other side. they formed a little bit of a barricade here, and basically police were lining both sides of the street and they allowed them to basically enter that way. you can see still a little bit of the police following the pro trump people as they're trying to get out of here with all these protesters, basically leering at them. you can see them on both sides of the street yelling things at them as they're trying to make their exit out of here. but, you know, for all the thousands of people that showed up to this thing, ready to go, very, you know, tensions high, spirits just completely tense. i would say that it was a fairly successful event. because we had a handful of protests, some weapons that were seized, but overall, no major
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violence to report. >> always a good headline, no major headlines. that's a handmade weapon that was made, some pictures that were put out by law enforcement to show us what was confiscated. jinah kim, thank you so much, in portland, oregon. next, response to the london attract. president trump chooses to pick a fight with the mayor of london. more on how the white house is reacting after the break. brian, i just need to know if the customer app will be live monday. can we at least analyze customer traffic? can we push the offer online? brian, i just had a quick question. brian? brian... legacy technology can handcuff any company. but "yes" is here. you're saying the new app will go live monday?! yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes. depend silhouette active fit briefs,
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londoners will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. no reason to be alarmed. >> then president trump took to twitter to criticize the mayor's response posting, quote, at least seven dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and mayor of london says there is no reason to be alarmed. responding to that, a spokesperson for khan released a statement saying the mayor is busy responding to the terror attack and had more important things to do than respond to donald trump's ill informed tweet which was taken out of context. joining us now is kelly o'donnell with more on that. ena and they not necessarily have been best of friends as you've been reporting today. >> they do see a lot of the issues differently. the president now in office, the candidate who was donald trump on the trail, and the mayor, of london. and when these sorts of crises happen, we always look to leaders and they have a job to do in those moments. sometimes it is to comfort, sometimes it is to provide warnings and critical information to the constituents,
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sometimes it is to inspire people to keep going on. how we measure what leaders do in times of crisis is a part of the modern world, especially in the age of terrorism. well, donald trump had his own way of communicating about all of this too. and it is getting attention either way. president trump's unconventional london response sticking with his weekend routine, four hours at his virginia golf resort, spotted with super bowl champ peyton manning and tennessee senator bob corker. he had already offered the expected condolences, so today the president teed off on twitter. point one, we must stop being politically correct, regarding the business of security for our people. point two, the president questioned the judgment of london's mayor, who described the city as among the safest. >> londoners will see an increased police presence today and over next few days, no reason to be alarmed.
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>> president trump seized on the last five words after citing the casualties. mayor of london says there is no reason to be alarmed. london's first muslim mayor sadiq khan and the president tangled publicly before over the proposed immigration travel ban. that was point three. president trump tweeted right after the attacks, we need the courts to give us back our rights, we need the travel ban as an extra level of safety. blocked by federal judges, the trump administration urged the supreme court to permit enforcement of the 90 day hold on visas to six countries. >> there is no evidence to suggest by banning muslims or banning muslims from a particular set of six countries that we would make ourselves here in the united states safer. >> reporter: some republicans concerned about the specific ban say the president has a point. >> we need to do a better job of vetting individuals who are
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coming from war torn countries into our nation. >> and richard, tonight, there might be another opportunity for the president to weigh in on all of this. he and the first lady are right now attending an annual gala in washington to benefit ford's theater, the historic theater, that has been both part of the nation's arts history and civil war history. abraham lincoln's assassination occurred there. so at that benefit, it is a tradition for presidents to mkek a few remarks. that would be a traditional thing for presidents to do. it would be interesting to find out when the night is over if his comments were traditional or if it was still the president with that political edge. >> kelly o'donnell at the white house for us this evening, thank you, kelly. brett's bring in robert costa, msnbc political analyst, also a national political reporter for the washington post among a lot of other titles. thank you for being here. you heard the reporting from
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kelly o'donnell, discussing this relation between sadiq khan and president trump. not necessarily good friends. what are you hearing from your sources in terms of what might be the reason and the way that the president had tweeted that message out earlier about the attacks in london. >> well, you can trace the president's response to the mayor to even the decision on the paris climate accord. there is a vain in this presidency and in some of the aides around him that is very much against the global political class that trump himself sees himself as a change agent, a disrupter. you see him not only taking it -- his argument right to these foreign leaders, national security issues, and terrorism issues, but you see him doing it on the climate and also striking to watch this week, his response, he's talking about returning to what has become the key of his presidency, executive authority. executive orders instead of the legislative agenda when it comes to a response.
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>> and drill down on that, the move to executive orders and executive authority. >> what is important to recognize here is the president has in many respects a stalled legislative agenda. but saw with his travel ban, his immigration executive orders, early in his presidency, that this is the way his nationalist ideas, confrontational ideas, could come to fruition. that's what he's pursuing at this moment. >> a shift back to the way he started if you will as you're saying here based on your sources, part of that you brought up the travel ban. before this weekend, the word was again to try to reimplement some energy behind that, specifically the supreme court to put a stay and basically allow his executive orders to be implemented. what are you hearing on that? >> well, there is going to be a lot of reliance in this administration on the supreme court, to try to back up what they're trying to do. if it does not pan out in the court, you'll see them return to capitol hill, there is a private
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reluctance and sometimes public from some republicans to pursue this kind of policy. many republicans i've spoken with say as much as they respect the president's response, they do not want to have the same kind of hard-line tactics and they wonder about the politics and even the morality of these kind of statements and positions on terror issues. >> remember the headlines from three days ago, two days ago, feels like a week in some cases, really only is that long about this new world order, quote/unquote. the united states, president trump going it alone, this after he's coming back from europe. now we have an attack that happened on saturday, where coordination is important. where they traditionally the two countries have worked together, attack in the united states or an attack in the uk here. did you see, are you hearing any rumblings of how well the last 24 hours have gone between the two countrys? >> the relationship has been a
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central part of american foreign policy. you see in the broad overtures of this administration a reliance on the traditional way that relationship has been, positive in tone, in terms of the offering of support. but it is highly unusual, should be noted to have a president of the united states comment on the london mayor to use this kind of incendiary language in response to a political figure abroad during this time of tumult in terms of what is happening in england. >> the washington post, robert costa, thank you for stopping by. >> thank you. >> coming up, one day after the london terror attack, pop star ariana grande holding a one love manchester concert today to benefit the victims of the terror attack in manchester that happened just two weeks ago. more on that. important to me than my vacation. so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. now i can start relaxing
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rampage. one witness thought the noise was from a bar fight, before he saw the attack unfold. >> chaos broke out which we thought at first would be a fight between we have in this area local football teams like to meet up to play, but nothing great. and we thought that would be it. and one of them is in hospital at the moment. and all of a sudden, the police arrive, guns started firing, the football started to fight back against the ones with the knives. started throwing chairs at them and unfortunately that was one guy on a bike, one guy who tried to tell everybody to get back, get back, the bike fell and they got him. i think he's been killed. >> now british police say the public can expect to see additional officers across london, armed and unarmed, as they continue their work.
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a show of unity this evening in manchester, two weeks after a suicide bomber killed 22 people as they left a concert north of london. there was another concert there tonight. this time a benefit in honor of the victims. ariana grande's one love manchester benefit concert is aimed to raise money for the victims and families of the attack. kelly cobiella has the latest. >> reporter: in scarred manchester, 50,000 people facing the fear. >> you look fear in the face and say no, we're manchester and the world is watching. >> reporter: ariana grande back on stage 13 days after the bombing that injured and killed so many young fans. >> it was one of the best experiences of my life and it turned into the worst. >> reporter: 16-year-old kara didn't think she would survive that night. in her wheelchair, she couldn't get to the exits. >> i thought of all the things
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i've not done in my life yet and it was horrible. you are worried everybody yelling for their parents, children, friends. >> she hoped to replace the memories with something better. >> they're not going to beat you. >> reporter: this morning her tickets hadn't come through. thousands came early, nervous, anxious, thinking of london. >> something happened again last night. just really upsetting. >> reporter: police closed the streets, guarded the gates, and searched every bag. two hours before show time -- you made it. >> i know. i'm really excited. >> you're going to see her. >> i know. i can't wait. >> reporter: keira with tickets and a brave face. tonight, a chance to make new memories, to heal, 15-year-old olivia campbell was one of the first victims to be named. >> i had the pleasure of meeting olivia's mom a few days ago. she told me olivia would have wanted to hear the hits. >> reporter: tonight, they're singing along and sending a
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message. >> just we're unbreakable. >> kelly cobiella with that, a lot of tears from the artists as they were feeling that sadness there in manchester tonight. coming up, the latest on the investigation into the london terror attacks. the three suspects were killed, but did this plot go beyond just those attackers? we'll get the latest from nbc's richard engel. more on president trump's response to the tragedy and the tweet heard around the world aimed at the london mayor as he was dealing with a crisis in his city. right after the break. baa baa black sheep, have you any wool? no sir, no sir, some nincompoop stole all my wool sweaters, smart tv and gaming system. luckily, the geico insurance agency recently helped baa baa with renters insurance. everything stolen was replaced. and the hooligan who lives down the lane was caught selling the stolen goods online. visit geico.com and see how easy it is to switch
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[ seagulls squawking ] we're back with more developments out of london. police in london made arrests and say they're still searching for associates of the attackers. chief foreign correspondent richard engel has the latest on the investigation from london. >> reporter: just before 10:00 p.m., a van began to speed across london bridge, jumping on and off the curb, swerving into
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pedestrians. coming to a halt on a street filled with bars and restaurants. >> just a car crash, an accident. >> the van came to a crashing stop? >> yeah. >> reporter: this group of lithuanian londoners out for a birthday celebration, then saw three men jump out of the van that nearly hit them, armed with knives. >> i think there was a bar manager, stabbed him like ten times. >> stabbed him in front of you? >> yeah. >> this cell phone footage shows the men walking calmly through the market, looking for their next victims. >> guy was running after me, i managed to run away from him. >> he was running after you? >> yeah, yeah, yeah. >> get out of the way. >> s.w.a.t. teams arrive quickly. and enforce, ordering bargoers to get down. within minutes, all three suspects were killed by armed officers. the vests the attackers were wearing which looked like
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suicide bombs turned out to be fakes. the rampage left seven dead and nearly 50 injured. many critically. british authorities say there is no connection to the recent bombing in manchester, except that both cells were inspired by the same extreme jihadist news. now, investigators are tracking down friends and relatives of the attackers to find out if they were part of a wider network. neighbors say at least one of the attackers lived in this apartment building in the outskirts of london and that police detained multiple people from here for questioning. neighbors said the suspected attacker who lived here didn't stand out. >> was a nice guy. nothing from what i've seen, no complaints, nothing. just a bit of a shock. >> richard engel in london with that report for us, thank you. now to the russia investigation. and tonight we're getting new information from one of the key players himself, russian
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president vladimir putin. in an exclusive interview with nbc's megyn kelly, putin denies any involvement in interfering with the american election to help donald trump accusing the u.s. of being the country that meddles in elections around the country and addressed as well the claims that trump's son-in-law jared kushner tried to set up back channel communications with perhaps putin himself. >> among those under scrutiny, the president's son-in-law, jared kushner. at a meeting with russia's ambassador last december, he reportedly tried to establish a secret communications channel with the russian government. this is a proposal, a proposal by mr. kushner. >> translator: i don't know about this proposal. no proposal like that came to me. >> there have been questions in america about donald trump's finances. he hasn't released his tax returns there are questions about a secret russian dossier which he says is fake, but which purports to have blackmail information in it generated by
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the russians. there have been questions about communications between the kremlin and the trurm cmp campa has americans asking do you have something damaging on our president? >> translator: well, this is another load of nonsense. where would we get this information from? why did we have some special relationship with him? we didn't have any relationship at all. there was a time he used to come to moscow but i never met with him. >> that's an excerpt from the interview. steve clemens back with us, shannon petty, white house reporter for bloomberg news and josh dossy, white house reporter for politico. as you listen to that interview, and parts of it, one of the statements made by vladimir put putin, he says he denies any knowledge of attempts to set up a back channel communication with the united states, specifically jared kushner related and that specific question and he says no.
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how reliable is that, how might this be used by the five ongoing investigations here in the united states? >> i don't think he's reliable spokesperson at all on this issue. and that's why i think, you know, it is fine for him to get his story out there and express his opinion. i don't think he's going to change anyone's mind or convert anyone on this. he's not the friend of the united states, not a friend of democracy, and so while interesting his perspective on this, i don't think too many people are going to read too much into what he has to say. >> one of the things we also glean from it here, josh, is that megyn kelly asked him the question here about having evidence or information that might be incriminating to the president of the united states. he, as you heard the translation, load of nonsense in terms of any pieces of information that he may have. but what do you think, what has the white house position been on
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why the president seems to have only kind words to say about putin so far? what have you heard? >> well, the white house said they want a more productive relationship with russia and they think that all the allegations on, you know, the dossier, any potential financial ties, all of that in their estimation is basically what president putin said, nonsense as well. but, you know, on his end and on the white house end, we have not been able to substantiate a lot of facts. we don't know whether everything in the dossier was true. we don't know what his financial ties are. and we're not quite sure yet what the back channel was about. jared kushner and michael flynn allegedly tried to set up. the white house position has been this is basically a bunch of baloney, similar to what the russia president said in the interview, but we don't know. we don't know if that's true or not. >> steve what is your reaction to what you've seen so far of this interview? >> i think vladimir putin is a extraordinarily good kgb agent who is currently president of
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russia. i think he's very craftily with many countries not just the united states, with people like marine le pen and others been able over the years to find ways to develop relationships through the oligarchs he holds in power. i think in this interview, while he denies case after case after case, we had 17 u.s. intelligence operations come to the agreement that russia had hacked, under state direction, into the american election, and i would put faith and confidence in their assessment and be very, very skeptical of vladimir putin and his comments. i would lay out many of the people involved with managing intelligence with the united states in the russian fsb have been charged with treason inside russia, currently removed from their jobs, others potentially connected to that controversial dossier have ended up dead. so this is a story that hasn't yet been told, and vladimir putin has zero credibility as far as i'm concerned. >> so many questions that
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everybody would like to ask vladimir putin. great interview there. megyn kelly getting reaction from the leader of russia. come thursday, that was before what happened yesterday, so unfortunately, all eyes were on thursday, and those eyes will continue to be there, especially in d.c. where all three of you are at. shannon, what might happen in advance of thursday? of jim comey going to testify there to the senate intelligence committee? is there anything that would keep him from what we're hearing? we heard executive privilege floated for a while. >> yes, as of friday, my sources are telling me that though the administration was reviewing using that, i don't know if that necessarily means they're leaning one way or another, something they were looking at, a way to try to block that testimony. i would not be surprised if we saw more leaks out ahead of that. he's someone who understands his audience, he understands how to
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deliver and carry a message and will be a very dynamic testimony on thursday. i think the white house is hoping that republicans in congress will, you know, come to their defense in some ways and either try and shift the conversation on to things about leaks and unmasking, which is where they want the story line to be going and try to poke any holes they can in his testimony, raise questions like, well, you know, if you were concerned about interference in the investigation, why didn't you say something sooner and really try and come after him in that respect. i think there is hope in the administration that this will won't be catastrophic for him. >> and there are reported notes that jim comey took after each conversation with the president, will he have exhibits? will he provide that during this testimony? that would certainly add more zest, shall we say, to what everybody will be watching. there is a new infrastructure plan that was announced yesterday.
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and that the president will be out announcing tomorrow, and then on wednesday, hitting the road. >> right. and i think the white house is trying to do a bit of counterprogramming here. there is a perpetual frustration i hear perpetual sense of not getting through a week of talking about the policy or the good economy or whatever they want to talk about because of the russian investigation, and anything that we have done positively, within 48 hour, another russia story. so they are hoping to get through some of the week on the road in ohio and in the midwest, but, i think that all eyes on thursday are going to be on mr. comey. >> josh omnipresent steve gleason. thank you. and now, what we know is seven people are killed and at least 48 injured in the london attack, and a group claiming responsibility for the attack.
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we are getting word now from president trump and some more comments that he has made about the terror attack in london. this is after, and during his remark s at ford's theater and this is paraphrasing. he said spoke to prime minister may today, and the u.s. will do everything in its power to assist the u.k. and do all it can to bring those who did this to justice, and vile enemy is what he called them. and again, and in the president also saying that this bloodshed must end. it will end as president, i will do what is necessary to prevent the threat from coming to our shores. so those are some of the rough notes there from president
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trump. and just getting that into us here at msnbc in front of the ford theater remarks, and an event that he was at, and there is word that london's mayor will hold a vigil to honor the terror attacks, and close proximity to where the pair of attacks happened on the bridge and borrow market there in london. joining us is matt bradley and some of the comments that we got from the pool here from what president trump a had said, and this is sort of the coordination and the relationship that we are talking about, and so essential and it sound likes the president is saying that we are committed to helping the u.k. >> well, that is important going forward, of course sh, because there are u.s. intelligence agents on the ground here in britain and assisted not just with this attack, but with the one in manchester about two weeks ago and that is celebrated again tonight. there is a vigil tonight, or not so much a vigil, because concert, a benefit concert for
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the victims of the manchester at attack that involved a suicide bombing. that is the mayor sadiq khan is inviting people to come to the base of the tower bridge near london and it is confused by tourists for london bridge, because it has the two iconic towers on it, and it is a vigil starting at 6:00 p.m. at the park between that bridge and london bridge. there is going to be a minute of silence then as well. following then, theresa may is going to have her own minute of silence, and so many vigils going on here, and it is speaking, richard, to the sheer amount of terror attacks going on, and three this the past three months. richard? >> and so many heroes and people who have taken in people and protected them. the stories are still coming out. >> yes, that is right. acts of ordinary heroism, and so many people i spoke with said they didn't stick around to see what happened, but some of the
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people they saw defending strangers against the terror attacks, they saw them being brutalized and killed in front of their own eyes. >> i am sorry, but we have to go. "lockup" on msnbc is coming up next. we will have updates throughout the evening. thank you for being with us. brian? brian... legacy technology can handcuff any company. but "yes" is here. you're saying the new app will go live monday?! yeah. with help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. with the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes. there's nothing more than my vacation.me so when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy. booking.com gets it. and with a book now, pay later feature, i don't have to pay for anything when i book. visit booking.com. booking.yeah.
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