of "valshi and rule." >> we have a lot to cover, i would say. >> we are starting with the terror attack in london. at any moment, we'll learn the identities. several people were arrested in two raids. this began saturday night when the suspects rammed their vet into people on the london bridge, drove a little farther, got out, began stabbing people at nearby restaurants, seven people had died. dozens were injured. 36 people remain in the hospital today. the suspects were shot and killed by police, one eyewitness tells nbc news that an american bystander was struck by a stray bullet fired by police. that person is expected to survive. right now security is high surrounding the bridge. and it is open. officials say more needs to be done to stop future attacks. >> we have had three attacks across the uk in three months,

which requires a step-change, a different direction and a different movement to character the scourge of terrorism, extremism and hatred. >> we cannot deny that the threat from islamist extremism is one of the gravest we face. it is a perversion of islam and a perversion of the truth. >> the acts of these three men on saturday night was cowardly, was evil. >> it's very much a member of the community. very family-oriented person. >> we knew our resolve, stronger than ever before, to protect the united states and its allies from a vile enemy that has waged war on innocent life and its gone on too long. this bloodshed must end. this bloodshed will end. as so many grapple with the awful attack, president trump is on a tweet storm this morning using the attack to push his

executive order on travel. tweeting, quote, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but i'm calling it what we need and what it is, a travel ban. he then goes on via twitter to say, the justice department should ask for an expedited hearing of the watered down travel ban before the supreme court and seek a much tougher version. remember, it is his justice department. the president is even criticizing london's mayor for the second day in a row tweeting, pathetic excuse by london mayor sadiq khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement. msm is working hard to sell it. first, i want to qualify, the mayor of london, when he said there's no reason to be alarmed, he wasn't talking about the terrorists, he was saying there's going to be increased police presence because of this. don't be alarmed. >> don't be alarmed by the increased police presence. that's the difference. let's listen to the mayor, sadiq

kahn, making that comment. >> just like terrorists are closely evolving and finding new ways to disrupt us, harm us, attack us, the police and experts and all of us are finding new ways to keep us safe. london will see an increased police presence today and over the course of the next few days. no reason to be alarmed. >> right. the context there is remarkably clear, unless you heard none of it except those last few words, it's clear. when you are in new york city from time to time you see the hercules forces where you are standing and 50 police cars go by with lights and sirens, it's a show of force to tell new yorkers, we have your back on this, we're on top of it. it's a drill. that's what he was saying not to be alarmed about. >> can we talk about being new yorkers for a moment. so many new yorkers, i lived here when 9/11 happened, the mayor of new york city at the time, rudy giuliani, an ardent supporter of donald trump, it's surprising to people who live

here that when something like that answer, the city, the world really comes together. if you remember at the time, president trump made the climb that he saw muslims standing on tops of buildings in jersey city cheering as the towers fell to the ground, a claim that has never ever been supported. so to hear a new yorker really go after a city leader of another city at a time like this, it's shocking to so many on either side of the aisle. >> and we're going to talk about the travel ban in a second. but we'll talk about what we know about the investigation so far, what they know as you said, we're about to hear, we're going to learn very shortly the identity of the attackers. the london police say they know who they are. and that there may be a connection in ideology between them and the manchester bomber. not a connection, perhaps an actual connection, but they may have been inspired by similar ideologies or imams preaching to them this certain way.

this was a business student who turned into a suicide attacker. so it begs larger questions, if you are planning on doing these things, how do you do it when it is a citizen who could be homegrown who looks to have prosperity in front of them. and somehow they decided to have a suicide bomber. so that is one of the things they are looking at right now, what are these connections and how do you deal with it that way. a travel ban is exclusively focused on people coming in from the outside. this particular travel ban wouldn't have that. >> as far as people feel about a travel ban, there are many issues in terms of the homegrown plan. whether it's the new head of the fbi, counter terrorism or the tsa. in terms of the extreme vetting people are looking for, these are scary times. but it was interesting, theresa may made the point, how some

social media platforms have empowered this hate and connection. and we have heard back from some tech companies and have for quite some time where they say it is a complicated issue, one clearly not solved yet. >> she's taking aim at silicon valley saying you have to stop facilitating the extremism that leads to this tore roerrorism. remember, she is days before the election. this happened days before the paris election and didn't end up pushing people to the far right, but that is always the fear. so she comes out with a hard line saying, extremist is to blame. i think we can generally agree with that. and the internet is facilitating this. i don't think she's wrong in saying it, but i'm not sure we understand fully how we're actually supposed to stop the spread of extremism. >> well, she brought it up at the g7. clearly, they are trying to get their head around social media and how so many of these extremists can connect. something that stood out to me actually was general mattis'

response. while he was asked by supporters about the attack. i believe, i'm not sure who it was, but i saw him on camera and he said, i like to learn about something before i talk. let me look into it. now, many have said that is sort of a wink, a nod, maybe saying to his boss, the president, i realize, this is an upsetting time, but before you go out to make broad generalizations, we have to learn more information. and it is an especially tough time, not just for general mattis but for other members of the administration coming off the nato meeting and the g7 who tried to qualify the president's statements. so when he's out there shooting from the hip, when gary kahn wrote the op-ed with h.r. mcmaster last week saying, america first isn't alone, we need to be together. when things feel so divided after an attack like that, that's the opposite of what we need to be doing. >> that's not the last to hear from general mattis over the course of the show. we have more to tell you about. and we spent the last few minutes talking about the threat of terror and want to take a moment to honor the victims of

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russia didn't collide with donald trump's presidential campaign. the u.s. meddles in the world's elections. and russia doesn't have any compromising information on president trump. those are comments from russia's president vladimir putin to our own megyn kelly in an exclusive interview. take a listen. >> translator: the united states everywhere all over the world actively interferes with the electoral campaigns of other countries. put your finger anywhere on the map of the world, that's why in the grand scheme of things, we don't care who is the head of the united states. there is a theory that kennedy's assassination was arranged by the united states intelligence services. you people are so creative over there. good job.

your lives must be boring. >> your lives must be boring, i like that. however, i'm not here to take vladimir putin's side. he is right on one point. look at this look i'm getting. he is right about other countries interfering with other elections. history is littered with americans interfering with other people's elections. going back as far as we can tell to 1948, the cia made millions of dollars to ensure an election win over leftist parties. 1953, this is what a lot of people don't know about. the iranian prime minister, democratic-elected prime minister was replaced by an authoritarian monarchy favorable to washington and great britain. in 1973, the chilean president was swept aside by a military coupe founded in part by the united states. and the united states has carried out similar acts 80 times between 1948 and 2000. >> are you going to hit me with,

i'm rubber and you're glue. >> i'm not saying everything he said was right. he made a point. >> he made a point. but this is vladimir putin's chance. he has this opportunity once a year. this is his big conference, everybody comes for it, this is his chance while he has this platform, he can talk about pumping up his chest and the world leaders that russia is. instead, we really got this snarky double-talking, what? i don't know mike flynn, we didn't do it, you do it. which was puzzling. >> and it was definitely -- but it was in keeping with what we're used to getting now from this administration, the insults on the jjournalists. the idea that you people have nothing else to do, you're not telling real news. he said russia didn't collude with the united states, it was remarkably similar to the way in which donald trump talks to the press. >> but what hasn't been similar is the stories that we have gotten or haven't gotten out of the white house as it relates to russia. just put into perspective, you've got carter page, you've got paul manafort and mike

flynn. jared kushner alone, thing about the swirl in the last couple of weeks. jared kushner when talking about the meeting he had with the head of a russian sanctioned bank during the transition time, the white house said, it was just a discussion, not the russian bank. >> and the russian ceo said it was a meeting with kushner's company. an american can't have a conversation with a sanctioned bank. no matter whose story you're listening to, it doesn't sound good. this administration in the united states is doing everything to make sure that's not the conversation we're having. kudos to megyn kelly for keeping it front and center. we'll have the comey hearings later on this week, so as much as everybody is trying to avoid this conversation, we're having the conversation. david ignatius made the point, vladimir putin pulling his earpiece out, he was not comfortable. he didn't like it. we'll take a break, next up on "valshi and rule, what just

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welcome back. you are watching "velshi and ruhle." right now we are watching a development that could impact the military operations in afghanistan. listen up, five arab countries have broken diplomatic relations with qatar, a crucial u.s. ally. those countries, saudi arabia, egypt, bahrain, the united arab emirates and yemen. most of them are crucial u.s. allies. the five have an array of disputes with qatar. cqatar or qatar. this morning the secretary of state rex tillerson urged the countries to work out their differences that threaten the gulf cooperation council and offered u.s. help. >> we certainly would encourage

the parties to sit down together and address these differences. and if there's any role that we can play in terms of helping them address those. we think it is important if the gcc remain the unified. >> for so many of us, whether you are saying qatar or qatar or the uae, it's unclear why these are such important relationships to us. ali, walk us through this. >> let's go over to the map to show you what is going on here. this is qatar right on the top of saudi arabia. this is all saudi arabia, this is iran and this is egypt. these are the biggest players in the whole region. now here's the issue, qatar is a country that sort of likes to punch above its weight a little bit. and saudi arabia doesn't like that. saudi arabia would prefer if just like a lot of these countries qatar took its foreign affairs cues from saudi arabia. 1996 qatar

jazeera. the saudis didn't like that, a lot of the countries broke with them. now there are a few things going on. qatar does finance some of the activities of the muslim brotherhood which is counter to the current president sisi in egypt. that is something the arab countries don't like. saudi arabia and iran are natural foes. and qatar is a big u.s. ally. why? here's a close-up of qatar and what you need to see is this, very close to the capital in doha is the al udeid air base. this is the operating base for all intents and purposes for the american mideast activities. the problem is bahrain is a crucial u.s. ally. stephanie, when we've got negotiations for hostages, we are involved with qatar on that and our troops are there. we don't really like it when a bunch of our allies in top

region are fighting. this does flare up every few years. but right now while we have a concentrated effort on dealing with isis, this starts to affect u.s. foreign policy because now our allies are fighting. and the president had what he thought was a successful visit to saudi arabia. one other thing worth noting, qatar finances hamas, which is the government in gaza, that is a group that the united states and israel considers a terrorist organization. so there are lots of complexities around why it's not ideal that our arab allies in the gulf are fighting. >> lots of complexities, which is why so many people are asking, who has president trump's ear? to your point, the administration thinks that the preside president's trip to saudi arabia was a successful trip. jared kushner was one of his advisers and had a close relationship with a saudi family. now a close ally to president

trump, he spoke at the rnc, tom barak, has been an investing partner to the royal family for years. they were talking about how tom sold a resort in sardenia to the former pr of qatar. we have not weighed in on where steve bannon is on this, but so much importance is placed on who the president is speaking to. think about paris, it was who the president talked to last. and at this point, he's got a lot of voices in his ears. >> we like rex tillerson and others to hopefully get all the information to try to smooth things out over there. what we don't want is the tweet storm about this. this is a delicate and important situation and there are american troops in the way in the middle east. >> standby, everyone. we are waiting for president trump to take the podium at the white house. he's not talking about the travel ban, he's getting hopefully back on the white house agenda set to make a major announcement on the air traffic

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because now you're not spreading the cost base over all tax taxpayers. you are spreading it over users over the air traffic control system. the airlines have a piece of this and pass it over to you. here's the pros and cons, the technology. we need better air traffic technology. we need to be satellite based. and every time we have government fund cuts, the faa can be hit. the cons of this is it could unfairly favor certain airlines and certain airports. the richer you are you aren't a privateized system, the better you tend to do. and this is the point i was making, relying on user fees could collapse and recession. flying does slow down dramatically during a recession. so let's say you have a recession lasting two or three years. then what happens? is it too big to fail? it's a private system that then requires the government to say, well, we can't have the air traffic control system stopped. we can't lay off all the workers. so that's the back and forth about a privateized system. >> the debate we're going to see

is a lot broader than just relating to air traffic control. >> this is the tiniest light. it's the first it came out. >> much more about privatization as it comes out. >> construction, roads, sewer, everything. >> we saw a tweet over the weekend from the state of hawaii that i want to share with you. we can pull it up right now. potus is not proposing money for infrastructure. it's tax cuts for financies, privatetizing this fpublic property. not infrastructure. think about it, the government brings together the rules, the regulations and the process and the business angle, the private business angle, that i know how to optimize and maximize. but now, let's think about the overlay you have with this administration. there's a lot of distrust or mistrust from the white house

because, remember, president trump didn't really fully divest his own business interest. you have steve schwartz from blackstone who is a ceo adviser to the president who, by the way, got $20 billion in permanent capital from the saudis right after their trip. so there's concern that they are self-dealing or enriching the business partners from the president. and that could put a cloud over the proposition, even if they are good ones. >> here's another concern. >> i like this. >> nancy pelosi mentioned it today. air traffic controllers are relatively well paid. they are government employees and very highly stressed. this is a hard, hard job. >> did you know ali is a pilot? >> sort of a pilot. but if the efficiencies that the private sector brings in, what if that is a way to push wages

down. there's a concern that republicans have that government jobs, well-paying government jobs could become less well paying private sector jobs. that's a concern everywhere you'll see a discussion about privatization because people think of government jobs as good jobs. private sector jobs are good and bad. >> those are stressful jobs. we do not need people that work in those industries tired or disgruntled. >> there was an air crash above buffalo some years ago. and it was found out that the co-pilot was getting paid $20,000 a year and commuted overnight from somewhere out in the west coast. we generally all agreed that if it costs me a little more money for my airline ticket but you're not paying pilots $20,000 who have not slept overnight, i'll take that. and that's where this comes in. this is a safety issue. so stlr peopthere are people co when they give to the private sector, there's a safety issue. >> ali, we say that now, but when we go jonline to get our flights, do you think about that? >> no, you want the cheapest

fare you can get. and there's a possibility with the privatization of air traffic control and other things the amount of things you pay may go up. >> listen, this week the white house, whether it is a distraction from the comey investigation or whether this is when they want to have it on the agenda, they want to push this big infrastructure. because remember, infrastructure spend could get bipartisan support. many people wonder why they lead with this. >> you made a comment this morning, you said, it's not about whether it is privatization but how you do it. can it be done in a way to benefit everyone. if it can't, then we have other concerns. >> we'll hear from the president any moment now. i'm going to take a guess, i'm going to guess he'll have prepared remarks in front of him. because i know that team around him in the white house, they do not want him talking about anything but this big infrastructure plan. we'll be back in just a few, hopefully the president will be up. ♪ fun in art class. come close, come close.

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[ applause ] >> that, of course, was the scene that i have seen a number of times now, a scene from the white house reception on january 27th, right after the inauguration. president trump singling out then fbi director james comey who he would then fire on may 9th. a friend of comey later saying the director was, quote, disgusted by the hug from the president and that comey had worn a blue suit and tried as tall as he is to blend into the blue drapes in the room so the president wouldn't notice him. well, the president will certainly notice james comey again this thursday when the fired director makes his highly anticipated appearance before the senate intelligence committee delivering what is expected to be blockbuster testimony. >> for journalists and those who watch us, this has been an amazing few months because so much has happened all the time. by the way, we are watching the

white house in the bottom corner there, but so much of it, on one hand, the white house is trying to move ahead with an agenda announcing things all the time, like we'll see moments from now, there's jared kushner, the center of a lot of attention in the white house, but many people say the announcements are a distraction from russia, not letting the russia investigation continue. well, james comey sitting down is going to be the continuation of the russia investigation. >> what's going to be as interesting is, first of all, i know what i want to see, the memos. and depending on what side you are of the aisle, to see things from comey's memos, how he's recounted his exchanges with president trump will be very interesting. but i'm also interested to see what questions are going to be asked. are we going to see republicans -- >> is it going to be bipartisans? or republicans only asking about the unmasking of people and democrats asking about other things? or are they going to say, we need to get to the bottom of what you know, james comey. >> it depends what many

republicans have heard when they go home to their town halls. when they have taken calls from constituents because it is just a matter of transparency. people aren't necessarily saying there must be something wrong, but there's so much smoke and cloud, the likes of john mccain and lindsey graham, they have said over and over again they just want answers. >> and people will want to know whether donald trump did ask james comey to stop the investigation into the trump campaign's ties to russia. definitely going to want to know that. and that lies at the center of this whole thing. if that was asked and james comey didn't agree, did that become what happened, you know, in the end? is that why james comey's career came to an end. >> i want to bring in kristen welker live at the white house. kristen, we have been talking last week about whether the president try to block james comey, try to invoke executive privilege. over the weekend "the new york times" reported a few people in the white house said, no, that would not happen. we spoke to legal experts who said the president has tweeted

so much about this, he can't possibly say they need privacy. yet, this morning, when kellyanne conway was on the "today" show, she kind of left the door open, like, we'll see what the president does. >> reporter: steph, that's consistent with the conversations i've been having with top officials here throughout the weekend. they wouldn't definitively say he won't try to invoke executive privilege or try to block director comey's testimony. it seems to me like that is still under discussion. but as you point out, rightfully so, there's still some big hurdles. the strategy here, though, to kickoff the week is for some counter programming, really. the president wants to focus on his agenda. and this week, that is going to be infrastructure. today what you're going to see him call for is privatization of the faa. this is going to be a blueprint. the administration says, to try to get that process going. they say it will help to modernize the faa. it will help with oversight and security. but the counter argument is that

ultimately people will pay for this modernization through higher ticket costs. now, that is something that administration officials dispute is going to happen. we just had a briefing with them just a short time ago. and i can tell you, steph and ali, this is one of several events we'll see throughout the week aimed at really shifting the narrative, keeping it on the president's infrastructure piece of legislation proposed? it seems like that is still a work in progress. i asked one top official if there was an expectation that could happen this year, the answer i got was yes, we'll have to see. obviously, that's going to be tough to get through congress either way. steph? ali? >> kristen, whether it's infrastructure or it's tax reform or it's health care, this white house seems to have a tendency to go out and talk about these things without having something for us to all rip apart and say, hey, this is the law, this is what's good. for policy people like us, this is torturous.

the tax plan was a big deal. >> the tax plan was a one-pager. president trump is on his best on the campaign trail making -- >> pitching a big idea. >> making short declarative sentences. that's where he thrives. but here we are, this is where the rubber hits the road. i've got a pun somewhere in there as it relates to toll roads and infrastructure. but for many people even within his administration who have wanted, who came to washington who were not part of the campaign but came to washington because they wanted to set policy, is that what we're going to see here? >> reporter: well, i don't think you're going to see a specific policy proposal as it relates to a broad infrastructure bill. i can tell you that this plan to privatize the faa is based on pre-existing legislation. so there are some specifics that can be picked apart. a representative bill shuster who we expect to be here today as well, sort of laid the groundwork for that. but in terms of the infrastructure package, that is still being discussed. that's our understanding. it is still very much up for

negotiation. and as you point out, whether it's tax reform or health care, because there are so many differences between democrats, republicans, within the republican party, this is tough stuff to get done, to put the meat on the bones. and infrastructure it seems like is still a ways out, steph. >> ali, you may know the answer to this, in terms of job creation, president trump ran on being the job creator. if we see a privatization of the faa, what would happen potentially to those government workers? >> so the interesting part is that infrastructure when it comes to the faa and the air traffic control in particular is very behind the times. we need to move from a radar-based operation to a satellite-based operation. and there's a big build-out involved in doing that. so potentially some argue if you privatize it, there's a bigger push to get that done faster. whereas as a government agency, it's constantly subject to cuts and threats of cuts. >> what would happen to the people who work for the government agency once we go private? >> it will be interesting to hear, kristen, if anybody there

talks about it or the president talks about it. but it's not clear to me that you can do with the order of the air traffic controllers in the united states. the air traffic in the united states grows by leaps and bounds every year. >> reporter: that's right. one of the big questions was just that. will we need few air traffic controllers or less oversight? could it ultimately have an impact on national security? top officials pushing back against that, ali, they say, no, it won't lead to fewer air traffic controllers necessarily. and it's certainly not going to lead to less oversight. however, those are still topics that are up for debate as these details get rolled out. one other point i'll just mention here, infrastructure is one of these issues where there happens to be more bipartisan support than something like tax reform. so strategically a lot of folks are wondering, if the president has started here, if this had been his opening bid, would he have gotten further in terms of getting more democrats on board and in terms of building a consensus to deal with the more

difficult issues like tax reform, like -- we'll never know the answer to that. >> that's interesting. to your point about national security, this is crucially important. we were talking earlier in the show about 9/11, on 9/11 it was up to atc and the united states and then canada where they had all the income flights to handle that. 6,500 flights having to be redirected and no plane hit each other, other than the midst of the terror attack. it's like water out of the pipe or the electricity when the switch is hit. you don't want to pay extra for it or think about it, but you would know if it wasn't working perfectly. the air traffic control system in america works very well, kristen. >> in terms of national security, for example, who has worked with president trump on this plan? and specifically this speech, the reason i ask is because i take you back a week or two to nato. when if you remember, president trump didn't mention article v.

we learned from a reporting in politico today that members of his own national security, we learned that general mattis, h.r. mcmaster, rex tillerson, had worked with him. they believe in the speech that they helped put together article v was in there. the president would be talking about that. would you detail what that is? >> ivanka trump just walked in. kristen, we won't take sudden offense if you leave because someone told you to do that. but article v says, an attack on any one of the 28 member nations is an attack on all of them. and they must respond. in the entire history of nato, it's only been invoked one time. september 12th, 2001, the day after the 9/11 attacks. the united states is the only one that has had to call on the help of the other nato countries. >> it is stunning to learn that article v was written into the

speech that president trump was to present at the nato meeting and he didn't. it was actively taken out. richard haas was on earlier saying this is stunning. and last week we heard that the president doing this type of thing is stealing the credibility of the likes of h.r. mack mast mcmaster. so it will be interesting to see if the president stays in his lane on message. last week h.r. mcmaster who an op-ed where he specifically said, while reconfirming america's recredommitment to nato -- >> he didn't do it in the speech. >> that he didn't do. >> so the question is, who wrote the speech today? >> he's on thin ice with members of his own team. >> reporter: and steph and ali, i'm going to lower my voice. because the events are going to start to take place very soon, yeah. it just got very quiet here. not clear specifically who worked on the speech today. obviously, we know that typically steven miller, some of

his top advisers, steve bannon, gary cohn, typically weigh in on a speech like this. so we'll wait for final confirmation about who helped him with this speech. says. >> that's exactly right. one point whether or not he's going to stay on topic. a couple things i'll be listening for, does he mention the terror attack from over the weekend again. he commented on it last night. i asked a white house official if we expected to hear from him about this again today. and there wasn't a resense of whether or not that was going to haen. also, will he bring up the travel ban. remember, he's going to be talkinabout the faa, about national security. as it relates to our airline system. will this be an opportunity for him to raise the issue of the travel ban. he's been tweeting about it as you know throughout this morning saying look, this is a travel ban and we need it in order to make our country safer. those are some of the issues we'll be listening closely to see if he raises when he gets to the podium here in a few moments

from now. >> it could also be a positive for the white house in terms of this could be one topic where they are aligned. remember, paris was a huge divide within the white house whether you're talking rex tillerson, dina powell, ivanka, gary cohn on one side and steven bannon and steven miller on the other. in the end, the president went literally with the team who spoke to him last including scott pruitt. we saw many members of the administration really disappointed. >> this may not be the privatization while it is disputed between the parties, it may not be something that's disputed all that much in the white house. it may be as kristin made a point, this is legislation that existed in the past or that was drawn up in the past. it's not out of thin air. there's a possibility this could actually be something that the white house gets to put one foot forward on. that is by no means, kristin, as i'm sure you've heard, by no means is there bipartisan support on this. nancy pelosi came out this morning and said that the

democrats are not going to support this. >> there's no doubt. there will be a robust debate, fight around how to move forward with this legislation. i think you're going to see that in general moving forward with the president's agenda. democrats, republicans sharply divided on a whole host of these issues even infrastructure where there's broad agreement they want to see a big infrastructure bill get passed. how specifically does that come together. what are the details? who bears the burden? who pays the costs? those are all of the questions that make all of these issues so thorny. and again, the concern when it comes to air traffic control is that the price and the burden will ultimately be borne by the consumer, by americans who buy airline tickets that ultimately it will see a rise in ticket costs. now again, senior administration officials just a short time ago sharply disputed that would happen. those are going to be among the questions the administration will have to answer in order to get any bipartisan support.

>> which by the way is a very similar argument. the president as he talks so much about america first, buy american, manufacture in america, when you think about the way consumers have changed their behavior over the years, they've made the decisioning that buying american is not their top priority. it's why the companies like amazon, like fast fashion have become so wildly successful. when you're in line in zara, no one is saying where is this made. the interesting thing will be if changes are made with this administration that end up costing the american people more money, will they be happy? >> but remember one thing. that let's say it costs the same money whether you did it with the government or air traffic control. with privatizing air traffic control. it may be that the users of air traffic control end up paying more and taxpayers in general don't. let's say you never take a flight. but air traffic control user fees increase. that's one way of thinking about this, right? they made this argument in health care. why should people who don't use it pay for it. we don't agree with that when it

comes to health care. you will die if you don't get health care into my children feel that way if they don't go to disney. >> that's where the rubber might hit the road. it might become more expensive if you are a flyer, if you are a cargo company. your fedex shipments or u.p.s. shipments may be more but you don't see tax increases and it's not subject totach cuts. that's an interesting thing. >> this is a far less radical agenda item than we've seen from the president. this white house needs a win right now. ing infrastructure if the president stays on message, if he presents something that is pat latable, you weren't going to get nancy pelosi to say i'm on board. >> ted cruz is nodding like he agrees with it. when we were talking about the james comey stuff, i want to go over what the executive privilege idea is. there's a discussion about whether the white house will invoke this executive privilege. i think we've got a screen we can pop up there to discuss what it is. but the idea is that members of

the executive know things that the public doesn't know. and the white house would say that james comey couldn't speak. >> do you mean know things like james comey, there may be tapes out there, something that the president himself said? >> what it had be an is exemption. if the white house were to invoke executive privilege, it would be an exemption from legally enforced disclosure of communications within the executive branch of government when such disclosure would be adversely affect the functions and decision-making processes of the executive branch. so kristin, it's important that they would have to make the case that a, it actually would affect their ability to do stuff and b, that the president hasn't already disclosed information pertaining to the same stuff. >> right, and it becomes a legal matter, and essentially, he would make the argument that his private conversations with former fbi director james comey would be off limits. but i think there are a whole host of thorny questions around that.

would former director comey have to actually abide by that if he does, in fact, invoke executive privilege? so a lot of open questions, but in terms of the enormity of the fact that we're going to hear from james comey, that can't be understated. and i think the fact that if the president did try to essentially block his testimony, it could be very different politically. the counter programming again to try to focus on infrastructure. remember, he's going to be in an environment he's very comfortable with just a day earlier in cincinnati essentially out speaking to the american public. that format in which he thrives in which he's going to be met by likely thousands of supporters who want to hear his message. >> what's also interesting though about that format, that is when president trump is in his happy place, his campaign team likes that. there are members within the administration who do not want the president to go back out on campaign trail. they want him in washington working on this legislation, but also they want him there because

when the president gets out there on the podium, he makes promises that are very challenging for them to keep. i take you back to health care. we're going to make it cheaper. we're going to make it better >> we're not going to touch medicaid. no one is going to die on streets. exactly. >> then he comes home and says you boys work it out. there are members of his team. >> then the actual legislation can't get done. that's where we are with health care. that's where we are with tax reform and maybe this is not such a heavy lift. this is elizabeth dole who is coming to the podium now. let's listen in. she's going up there. she's not going to speak immediately. she's going to be there while the president speaks. >> it's interesting, i can hear in the background sort of a piano playing. remember last week in the rose garden when they made the announcement on the paris agreement, there was a jazz trio there. but the tone it seems like it's a lot broader base in the room today. jared and ivanka were not there last week. they were observing a jewish

holiday. as you mentioned we saw ted cruz is in the room. things feel at least a bit calmer than they did last thursday given all the tension around the paris decision and there's mike pence who just walked in the room. he has the transportation secretary with him. >> he's getting ready to introduce the president. let's lisn to t vice president of the united states. >> secrery chao, leader mccarthy, chairman schuster, distinguished members of congress, honored guests, on behalf of the first family, welcome to the white house. and thanks to the leadership of president donald trump, welcome to the beginning of a new era for american infrastructure.

you know, since the first day of this administration, president trump has been working tirelessly to keep the props that he made to the american people. our president's been putting jobs and this economy first. rolling back excessive regulations, unleashing american energy. ending unfair trade practices, and he's been working with congress to repeal and replace obamacare. and thanks to president donald trump, america is back. american businesses are growing. and investing in america again. more than 600,000 private sector jobs have been created under this president's leadership and unemployment hasn't been this low for 16 years. but if you haven't already noticed it, the american people also elected a builder to be the 45th president of the united states. and this week, starting today,

this president will take historic steps 0 keep his promise to rebuild america. promising to replace our crumbling infrastructure with new roads, bridges and tunnels and airports, the actions the president announces today will encourage investment, commerce and most importantly, president trump's action today will enhance the safety and precision of our air travel in the united states. and as i can attest from firsthand experience, having more precise as landings in america is a good thing. so with gratitude for his leadership and vision, and with admiration for his unwavering determination to rebuild america and restore a nation of opportunity and prosperity, i