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mueller's probe has expanded to include an inquiry into whether or not president trump tried to obstruct justice. >> this could be one of the biggest developments to date in this investigation. president trump, as you noted, lashing out on these reports he's being investigated for the possibility of obstruction of justice. >> he is being looked at, information is being gathered about him. it does not necessarily mean there will be any sort of prosecution. it does not mean that evidence will result in proof that he actually obstructed justice, but it is certainly the case he can no longer say, i am apart from this thing. intent is probably the hardest part of the obstruction of justice statute to prove. >> the federal prosecutor is also reportedly seeking evidence of possible financial crimes vov involving trump aides. more on that in moments. we also have more details on the shooting of congressman steve scalise. for that we go to craig. craig? >> reporter: washington authorities trying to piece to

together what happened in the chaotic 10 minutes on the baseball field. we have new terrifying video of that moment. meanwhile, lawmakers continue to blame escalating political rhetoric here in washington for the violence. >> when you look at the overall negative tone of politics in this country, everybody shares a blame, including the president of the united states. >> i think we have to step up, assume a leadership role and get away from the personalization of our politics. >> we can have debate and the founding fathers wanted us to have a vigorous debate, but we can do that in a civil manner. i think our actions, you know, influence the actions you see in public. >> i would argue that the president has unleashed and is partly, not totally, but partly to blame for demons that have been unleashed. >> we have reporters helping us to uncover these stories. let's begin with a debrief of the investigation that has plagued the trump administration since day one.

acknowledgment of the discussions confirms to nbc news that special counsel robert mueller has requested interviews with daniel coats and nsa chief mike rogers. he's looking at possible obstruction of justice and wants details of their conversations with the president. and our source confirms the "washington post" report that mueller also wants to talk to richard legend, former top vooifl civilian at the nsa. he wrote a document on trump. donald trump said on twitter, they made up a phony collusion on the russia story. found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. nice. joining me now, reporter hans nichols on capitol hill and nsa chief legal correspondent ari melber joins me in the studio and the "washington post." hans, let's start with you. did they know prior to the

"washington post" report that the president was, in fact, under investigation? >> i'm going to give you a qualifying answer because it's the most fresh and most recent answer we have from the white house, and that's from sarah huckabee sanders saying, not that i'm aware of, as far as she knows. huckabee is briefing reporters right now. she was asked if there had been any contact between mueller's investigation and the white house. she said, not that i'm aware of as far as i know. there are a lot of qualifications in what the white house has been saying all morning. a lot of "i believe so," a lot of "i believe that to be the case." we still don't know whether the white house itself has been contacted by mueller's team. huckabee sanders also said, when asked whether or not the president still had confidence in independent counsel, she said, "i believe so" on that point. they might have had a little heads up before the "washington post" took the story and publicpubli

published it. we don't know if they knew independently of the "washington post" if they were being investigated, and the number one line, they don't believe they are. >> very specific words being used. hans, thanks. ka kacie, i know it's a sensitive day on capitol hill, but is anybody talking about this russia investigation and now this new news that the president himself may be under investigation? >> reporter: katy, forgive me, i think we have the daughter or friend of the majority leader of the house who is here joining us for the live shot, so forgive the back and forth that we have going on over here. but to answer your question, the update on the investigation here, senate intelligence leaders are actually meeting as we speak behind closed doors with the director of national intelligence, dan coats. that was a closed session that they had requested after that very contentious hearing featuring the dni and the nsa director. both of them essentially refused to answer questions from senators without offering a justification as to why. and, of course, this ties in to

mueller's investigation, we're learning, because the dni is someone that mueller is now, as we know, wanting to talk to in the course of his probe into this question around obstruction of justice. and this goes to conversations that the dni may have had with the president. there are reportedly phone calls that occurred fween tbetween thf them that may have related to michael flynn, to his firing and to an investigation overall that contributed to a potential charge or recommendation of a charge for obstruction of justice. so we anticipate that the senators are going to be questioning coats about these issues. there was some reporting earlier in the day that they plan to steer clear of this obstruction of justice issue, but i spoke to the vice chairman, mark warner, off camera an hour or so ago, and he said, look, it's very possible this could fall into the scope of our investigation. so that is proceeding a pace. of course, the house intelligence committee also continuing to investigate. they're going to hear from the

former dhs secretary gary johnson end of this week. >> i want to read a portion of your "washington post" report, devlin. you said, the obstruction of justice investigation of the president days after comey was fired on may 9, and the preliminary interviews scheduled with intelligence officials indicate that his team is actively pursuing potential witnesses inside and outside the government. is the firing of james comey what sparked this investigation, devlin? >> yes. what they're trying to determine is was that dismissal done in order to affect the russia probe, both in particular the flynn investigation which comey pressed upon.

it doesn't mean they've reached conclusions about it and it doesn't mean it ultimately has to be aired out in some fashion, but we're told they are looking at it and they're trying to understand -- certainly comey said that he believed the reason for his firing was an effort to redirect in some fashion the russia probe. and so comey believes that, but now it's up to mueller to decide if he, too, believes that. >> ari, this all started because the president basically, one, wanted to tweet, and two, felt like his friend, allegedly at least, mike flynn was being impuned. he wanted mike flynn to be let off. he wanted them to stop investigating mike flynn. how big of a turning point is this for the investigation? >> this changes everything. up until today, the investigation was only about the past, what happened during the campaign, and aides to the president, including former aides for the most part. now it's about the very recent

present, what he has done as president and potentially continues to do, and it's about the president. the president is under criminal investigation. that's not something we say very often in this country. it's something, when it does happen, tends to happen much, much later, in the second term of nixon and clinton when it did. under investigation for his conduct in office. >> hans, i was speaking with somebody in trump world today who has known the president for a while, certainly known michael flynn for a while, and that person still has no answer whatsoever why the president has been so loyal to michael flynn, no answer whatsoever why, considering all of the drama that michael flynn has caused, why the president doesn't cut him loose. yeah, we talk about how donald trump is a loyal person, but he's not loyal to a fault. he will cut you loose if you become a liability. is there any more indication behind the scenes about what that relationship consisted of? and i also know that you have some new reporting for us.

>> reporter: yeah, let's do the new reporting real quick. the white house is confirming that president trump met with bob mueller the day before he was put in as special counsel. so in the past 24 hours when we see what appears to be a concerted effort to protect the integrity of bob mueller, whether or not some of his deputies donated to democrats in various capacities, we know the president himself was considering him for a high-level position. he had an interview with him the very day before he was named special counsel. that will make it more difficult for anyone within the white house to question bob mueller's integrity and question the direction of his investigation if they're also confirming at the same time that the president himself interviewed him for what we believe to be the fbi position. so that was right before the day before. as to your other question on the poll and when the president's loyalty to michael flynn will ultimately snap after it's been stretched for so long, it's an

interesting question, a difficult one. i suspect you almost need a psychologist to answer that one, not necessarily a reporter. although a lot of our reporting on this is running into somewhat of a wall. >> or frankly, someone who may have been there when donald trump was talking in private to michael flynn. that's still unclear what their conversations may have consisted of. he wasn't with him alone just one on one all that much during the campaign, but they certainly traveled on a plane quite a bit and when you're on a plane, it's easy to have a private conversation given all the ambient noise even if someone is sitting a few feet from you. ari, on this point, what is the strategy for the white house? is it to tear down mueller, have all the associates go out, the unofficial surrogates like newt gingrich come out and try to question the credibility to the point that they can try and maintain their sense of vict victimhood to just his base of supporters? is that what they're doing? >> recent events indicate there is no coordinated and

disciplined strategy. there is a president who is now, of course, a client and potential subject of an investigation who is acting in all sorts of ways that undermine the strategy, undermine his own position. to hans nichols' reporting here, this is going to be a fascinating question, katy, that we will be hearing a lot more about. it first surfaced from allies of the president, this previously undisclosed apparent meeting, potential job interview, between the president of the united states, the former fbi director, the predecessor to jim comey. i'm getting a rap but i'm just wanting to continue the point. jim comey was in the white house to meet with the president of the united states to talk about taking over the fbi once again at the very same time that he was apparently on notice from rod rosenstein, the president's appointee, to take over an investigation of the president. you don't have to be a fan of donald trump to raise the question of whether that sounds right. but we don't have all the facts yet and we don't know whether

mueller felt that being called into a meeting with the president, he was willing to do the meeting and he would protect himself from doing anything untoward. it is a fascinating thing that hans is reporting here coming out of the white house. >> you couldn't make the twists and turns up, and if you did, nobody would buy the screenplay. they're just too far flung. devlin, how much are the president's public statements going to be used against him? >> reporter: i think they've been used against him in a lot of other settings. i do think the public statements will get at the question of intent, and intent is a big issue for the whole question of whether there was will an attempt to obstruct here. so if you get far enough down the road where you believe that the president took active measures or said things that were designed to disrupt or derail the investigation, yeah, those statements definitely come into play. >> devlin barrett, hans nichols and ari melber, thank you guys very much. be sure to catch ari's special on watergate this sunday on the point at 5:00 to 7:00 eastern

only here on msnbc. meanwhile, jackie speier is a congresswoman from california. congresswoman, i'm sorry to butcher your name. i have a tendency to do that. i want to get your take on the investigation and where it stands now and this news that we're hearing that the president himself might be under investigation for obstruction. >> well, i don't have any independent information about that. all we know is what the president is tweeting. it's important for the president to reaffirm that he is not going to interfere with this investigation. and he does not help himself when he continues to tweet out a hostile and hot words like "witch hunt." this is a legitimate investigation into the russian intervention into our campaigns and into our election cycle. whether or not trump campaign operatives engaged with the russians and now this issue of

whether or not the president obstructed justice. he would serve himself so much better if he would just stop tweeting. >> does this change your investigation in the intel committee at all? >> not at this point. we are really focused on the intervention by russia and the extent to which operatives in the trump campaign were engaged with the russians to interfere with the elections. >> speaking of which, michael cohn, what do you want to find out from him, donald trump's personal lawyer? >> there's probably a lot we want to find out. a lot will depend if he actually submits to us. he is an integral part of the trump orbit, and i am confident that there is many things we'll want to ask him that will shed a lot of light on the history of donald trump and the russians and the relationships that were created through that. and i also would say that, you know, one of the things, i think, his former attorney to

president trump, a good defense is a really hard offense. so attack, attack, attack is what donald trump has learned over the years, and he's attempting to use that same strategy here as president, and it's just not working. >> congresswoman, i want to hand it over to my colleague craig melvin who wants to ask you a little more about what's going on in the house right now when it comes to congressman scalise. craig? >> hello, congresswoman speier, craig melvin here. they just passed a resolution here recognizing first responders and police on the field yesterday, also hope for the injured. 30 years ago you were shot in jonestown. since then there have been countless more shootings. what do you think it's going to take to change the stance on gun safety that a lot of your colleagues seem to have? and the tone. >> we always think there's going to be a tipping point. we thought that 20 children

losing their lives in sandy hook would be a tipping point, and that wasn't. there is a huge divide that exists between republicans and democrats, and there shouldn't be. i mean, there already is a law that says there should be background checks for everyone who buys a gun and yet you don't have to do a background check if you buy them on line or at gun shows. and there's issues around making guns safer by using smart technology and having the opportunity to research on gun violence. and yet those are simple, straightforward, no one wants to take anyone's gun away from them. we recognize the importance and yet we can't seem to find common ground. hopefully with this horrible tragedy we'll find some common ground that we can work together on. >> had it not been for congressman scalise's security detail yesterday, it would have been a full-fledged massacre there, which has a lot of folks asking, are congressmen or

congresswomen, are they safe enough? do you feel as if there needs to be some sort of change in policy with regard to how you guys are protected when you're just out and about, when you're not under the dome behind me? >> well, i would say that is a serious question that's being asked today, and our leaders are discussing it. whenever there is a large gathering of members, i think they do become a target, and i think we need to rethink whether or not they deserve to have some level of security. the extent to which our homes are insecure is something else that needs to be addressed as well. >> congresswoman jackie speier, congresswoman, always appreciate your insight. thank you. katy, i know you'll have much more on the other big stories we're watching coming up, but first new details emerging about the gunman, that 66-year-old man, including what may have motivated him to open fire wednesday. we'll also have a conversation with a republican lawmaker about the tone, about the tenor in the building behind me and whether

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capitol, you see the newest member of the high court, neil gorsuch there. also john roberts. this was the investiture, as it's called. it's essentially a ceremony, a formal introduction. president trump made the trip from the white house for the ceremony, along with the first lady. first lady melania trump is there as well. but again, neal gorsuch, john roberts, the chief justice swearing in mr. roberts a short time ago. just a short ceremony. we may get some additional video in a few minutes. when we do, we'll pass it along to you. vice president mike pence speaking a while ago just a day after a man opened fire on republican congressmen playing baseball in alexandria. >> a man opened fire yesterday,

and tonight on a baseball field, america will see we are better than that. >> reporter: here on capitol hill, there is a sense of shock but also a sense of unity as well as those who are hurt share their stories. >> they started shooting at me. i was pinned down in right field, and at that point i got struck in the leg and made a run for it. i was running for my life. got into the dugout, and i was bleeding pretty badly. >> all of a sudden here comes zack and all of a sudden he jumped in there and we were here arm in arm, and nelson took his belt off and gave it to flake and i and we put a tourniquet on za zack's leg to help the bleeding and we stayed down. >> they said it was the lord at that baseball field yesterday. garrett hague is at the scene

inially i in alexandria, virginia. garrett, are they anywhere close to naming a motive? >> reporter: recovery teams have been sweeping this area all afternoon, sharing the fruits of their labors now. we hear from the fbi. they have now said they recovered two weapons, a .9-millimeter pistol and a .762 rifle of the that's. that's a caliber that can be used in a number of different rifles. they also say they've completed their processing of the suspect's vehicle, a white conversion van, he's essentially been living in since april. they discovered a cell phone and a camera and a laptop, all pieces of evidence they're going through now. they're still looking for tips from anyone be it in virginia or anywhere else that might have information on this case. they say no tip is too small.

>> garrett haake for us at the sight of that shooting in alexandria. rick sally, republican from arizona joins me. i should also mention that you are a retired air force colonel as well. >> yes, i am. a-10 pilot. >> wow. we should note republican scalise still in critical condition. he has to have another surgery. how did we get to this point in this country in terms of the lack of civility? >> i also represent the seventh district. gabby giffords previously represented this area. we went through this when there was an attempt on her life. the room is named after him here, the first staffer killed in the line of duty. friends with my staff who worked with gabby gifford. we as a community know what it's like to go through this.

i have been here for two and a half years, and the divisiveness and the hatred, the tone and the temperature that's going on right now is like i've never seen in my lifetime. i put my life on the line for 26 years against the enemies that are out there, that are abroad, that are seeking to kill us and we unite together in order to protect america and somehow we're going against each other somehow. >> how is that? i just talked to congressman brat and the congressman from pennsylvania and they said to me, we get along. >> as a country, i think there's just a temperature of divisiveness that if we disagree, you know, there is also a disagreeability there. i agree with you, we do get along. every single one of my bills is bipartisan. i sat next to tom o'halloran yesterday during the prayer and the pledge. tonight i'm going to be facebooking live with kathleen rice, my good friend, democrat from new york, from the baseball game. so tune in to that. we'll be sitting together as

friends and say, look, we disagree on things, but we can have a civil debate about it. i can only speak for myself. i'm not feeding into the v vitriol. i'm not labeling or hating people because they disagree with me. i'm listening to trying to do the right thing in my community. that comes from being a veteran, quite frankly. i'm not feeding into it. i think all of us need to look inside our hearts, to our elected officials in our society and say, what are we doing to feed into this or bring more civility? i've met more people in my community, husbands and wives, mother and son, the mother and son can't even visit her grandkid because they have different political views right now. what is the matter with us? knock it off. there is far more that u nighni us. we're family members. we're colleagues up here. knock it off. >> mark sanford sat in that

chair last hour and efhe was on "morning joe" today and here's what he said about our society. take a listen. >> i would say the president unleashed is partly, not totally, but partly to blame for demons that have been unleashed. if the guy at the top can say anything to anybody at any time, why can't i? >> what say you to that? >> i think we should each be responsible for our own behavior. >> but the president of the united states, he has a large megaphone. >> he does. >> and there have been a number of reports over the last six or seven months about schoolkids and other adults hearing what he has said in the past and saying, if the president can say it, then i certainly can. >> sure. we're all responsible for our own behavior, right? we can hope that people are going to do things differently. certainly leadership, i've been in the military, leadership matters. the example you set matters. i think all of us from the top

down and across civil society need to be taking great pause at this moment in time and thinking about how did we get here and what can we do differently from this moment on? crisis equals opportunity. we avoid aid maed a massacre ye by the grace of god and the help of the capitol police. if they had not been there, we would be mourning the loss of countless members of staff and others. we're not there. the assailant is dead, and although steve and matt, they've got some serious injuries and they're fighting for their lives, we're praying for them. but we need to look at the opportunity here about what can we do going forward in this body, in this town, in the media, in our communities, all of us, what can we do as americans to learn from this and to make sure it doesn't happen again? >> as a lawmaker, do you feel sufficiently protected? do you feel safe? not so much when you're here inside the capitol, but when you're out and about. >> we have a man who was

arrested by the fbi for making specific threats on my life and he'll be arraigned tomorrow, actually, on three counts. so there are specific threats out there. i will tell you, we're never going to be able to perfectly secure ourselves. i'm on the homeland security committee. we deal with even a homeland security threat. we can't live in a fortress or a bunker. our job is to engage and be out in the community. >> but if you have enough lawmakers in the same place at the same time, shouldn't we have -- >> i played on the congressional football team and last year on the softball team. we would be in the mall doing our practice. these things will be assessed by the experts. we're going to take a look at that. there are certainly some potential vulnerabilities in this environment, but we can't disengage. we don't need to be reckless. when i flew in combat, i knew it was potentially dangerous but i still went to the target because that was my mission. it's still a job to represent and be in my community and set an example. if you see something, say something. we have to be vigilant. we can't be taking unnecessary

risk. we have to be out there. >> martha mcsally, i enjoyed you. thank you so much for your time this afternoon. by the latest reports, tickets to tonight's annual congressional baseball game selling at a rate of $500 per hour. the organizers on track now to raise more than a million dollars. let's send it back to katy tur in msnbc headquarters in new york. >> remarkable. next we're going to shift gears and head to the bill cosby sex assault trial. the jury is back to deliberating after telling the judge they are deadlocked. we're live outside the courthouse in pennsylvania next. but first we're watching a developing situation in wisconsin. a blimp flying above the u.s. open has gone down. cell phone footage captured images of the blimp on fire as it fell from the sky. we're told only the pilot was on board and survived, despite serious injuries. we will keep you posted on any developments.

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divided country. turning now to london, investigators have confirmed at least 17 people were killed in that massive 24-story apartment building fire. the fire commissioner warns that number could rise as it could take weeks to search the rest of the building. and in cincinnati, we heard from the father of the va student who returned home from north korea in a coma. the 22-year-old was jailed last year in north korea for trying to steal a propaganda sign from his hotel. >> i would like to highlight this morning the bittersweet feeling that my family has. relief that otto is now home in the arms of those who love him and anger that he was so brutally treated for so long. we went for 15 months without a word from or about otto. it was just a week ago we were informed that the north korea government now claims he was in a coma for almost all of that

time. even if you believe their explanation of botulism and a sleeping pill causing the coma, and we don't, there is no excuse for any civilized nation to have kept his condition secret and denied him top notch medical care for so long. >> out of pennsylvania, jurors in the bill cosby sexual assault trial told the judge they are deadlocked after three days of deliberations. the judge sent them back to the jury room to keep deliberating, though. the entertainer is charged with sexually assaulting a woman at his philadelphia area home in 2004. dozens of other women have made similar accusations against him. cosby has denied all of those accusations. nbc's ron allen joins us now from norristown, pennsylvania. ron, they've gone back to deliberate. how could this play out if they come back and railroad deare de

once again? >> it was a very emotional moment after the jury announced they were deadlocked after 30 hours of deliberations. we have video that shows you yelling and screaming, a confrontation from a woman who is an accuser named lily bernard. she encountered a small group who are supporters of bill cosby saying he is innocent and this case should never have happened. they were back and forth for some time. it's an indication of the emotion packed in this courtroom that has been going on in this case for some two weeks. the cosby team is, of course, very encouraged by a deadlock. here's angie wyatt, a cosby spokeswoman, reacting to the deadlock decision. >> bill cosby should never have been here today. we can't change that, he is here now. he is just happy to know that he has 12 people of his peers who

understand that the facts of this case don't add up, the inconsistencies from miss constand's investigation. >> reporter: what he's referring to is what the defense pointed out in the case, the number of inconsistencies that andrea constand has said about what happened during the time since this case happened in 2004. for example, she said that she had never seen cosby alone before the incident in question. it turned out that she had. and after the incident in question, she had said that their contact was rare, but there were phone records that show they had some 70 or more phone conversations after the incident in the months after it. so it's basically a he said-she said case. and the defense has basically said that, as you heard, cosby shouldn't be here. the jury has gone back. we don't know how long they'll be behind closed doors. it's their decision to come out again and say they're deadlocked, and if they do again, it's up to the judge to say whether the case continues

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hillary's likely to be under investigation for many years, probably concluding in a criminal trial. if she were to win this election, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. hillary clinton will be under investigation for a long, long time for her many crimes against our nation, our people, our democracy, likely concluding in a criminal trial. >> that was donald trump last year trying to convince voters that hillary clinton was just too risky. but nbc news and others are confirming that trump himself is now under investigation. so what happens now? and why is he still tweeting about it? former senator mark umarco rubi telling us he disagrees with this assessment.

>> it's going to take some time and be a distraction in some ways, but ultimately i think, alts the baat the back end of this, he and the country will be better served for it. >> his assessment this is a witch hunt, that's what marco rubio disagrees with. n jill, let's start with you. robert mueller, what is he going to be looking for speckly if he -- specific lg if heally if he's g try to prove obstruction of justice? >> at this point he just needs corroboration additional to comey's testimony. comey has laid out all the fundamentals for an obstruction of justice claim against the

president. we have some krocorroboration, fact he came to comey and said, please don't leave me alone. all those things could add up to the kind of corroboration you would need so it isn't just he said-he said. >> is it one more person? >> you don't really need one more. you have comey's testimony and his memo and the fact that he shared the memo contemporaneously which gifrzvet a lot more credibility, it doesn't look like something that came up after the fact. i think you have enough right now, but let's face it, the president will get a benefit of the doubt in a contest between the two of them. as a prosecutor, you want more than enough evidence. you never want to take a case to court or to impeachment that you aren't sure you're going to win. and you would need more than just the one person. so i think there are a number of

things that already corroborate comey, but i think you would still be looking for more. >> jill, how much do his tweets play into this? how problematic are the tweets for donald trump? >> as a defense lawyer, he is your nightmare client, because he is saying all the wrong things. he is contradicting every defense that he had. all of his tweets are terrible. his attack on mueller saying these are bad people. these are not helpful to the defense at all, and -- >> could it just muddy the water, though, jill? could it be the defense says, look, he says his opinions all the time and this is just ex temp ra temperoneous thinking, this is not an attempt to obstruct. >> if you view this as a jury,

not just as citizens hearing a campaign speech, and it was really interesting to hear you play his campaign rhetoric against hillary clinton. but when you get beyond that to actually evaluating evidence, i think juries can make good sound decisions based on real facts and real evidence. and so i don't think in the end it's going to be accepted that he is just spouting off. >> and that campaign rhetoric was purposeful, because at the time he was worried that moderate republicans were not going to come and vote for him, and he needed to convince them that he would be a safer choice, that they can't let somebody, even if they weren't going to vote for hillary clinton, they can't let somebody who might be under indictment hold the presidency. jeffrey, what does it suggest to you, that robert mueller was hired just a few days after the fbi director, james comey, was fired, and in that short time it became clear that the president himself might have to be under investigation as well?

>> well, i think the hiring of director mueller was an action by the deputy attorney general to basically for the deputy attorney general to save face. he knew he had to basically make it come out as not being a puppet of trump and he had to address the concerns that the public was having. as far as what does it implicate for president trump? i think as it was said, president trump is just saying all the wrong things and doing all the wrong things, and he is just giving a lot of circumstantial evidence that is going to help the investigation. >> so it seems also that the investigation is broadening. not just to obstruction. not just to russia interfering into the election, but to possible financial crimes and what sort of association some of his campaign aides may have had with russia or any other place in terms of finances. and i'm not making -- i'm not saying that donald trump is part of the mob.

don't take it that way. but is this a similar strategy that fbi agents, the fbi will use when they are trying to crack down on members of the mob? you can't necessarily prove any of the crimes that they are accused of, but the financial crimes, tax evasion, seem to be the things that are easy to get him put away for. >> i want to say an investigation is a living organism where you may start out with one target, but as the evidence comes in, you will direct your assets to address the evidence. and in this case, there could be financial information that's coming in that's going to take the investigation off into a different direction. at first, it was looking at russian collusion, but now the criminal charges of a financial investigation may be more -- >> how can financial crimes tie into the russia investigation? is this talking about money laundering between the two nations? or the nation and the campaign? >> since i don't have the insight on what the investigation is, i'll go off my

prior -- >> history. >> experience. and it could be somebody providing money and hiding where the money is coming from. hiding how you distribute the money. something of that nature, and i would assume in business, it's probably something that's not that hard to do since a lot of money seems to be changing through a lot of different hands. >> normally, there could be a quick pro quo. or just a transaction. >> there could have would hawou reason why people are doing it. >> go ahead, jim. they are wrapping me. >> i want to add it could show his motmotive. why is he so protective of russia? does he have financial dealings with russia that would explain this? there is more to it, and i was an organized crime prosecutor. it's more than looking for another way to get at him. it's to look at why he is doing what he is doing. >> thank you very much, and former fbi special agent, thank you. you guys were great.

let's go back to craig melvin who is on capitol hill. craig? >> reporter: tonight, democrats, republicans, taking the field for the annual congressional baseball game here in d.c., and while they may be in different dugouts, they will all be on team scalise. the house majority whip expected to be going through additional surgeries after being shot in the hip yesterday over the river here in virginia. the president that visited scalise in the hospital last night gave an update earlier. >> it has been much more difficult than people even thought at the time. he is in some trouble. he is a great fighter, and he is going to be okay, we hope. >> we have john torres joining me now to dig a bit deeper into the medical side of all of this. dr. torres, we're told three surgeries. the third happening now or soon. roughly 28 hours. what does that tell you? >> that tells me that he is again, like president trump said, in trouble.

he is not out of the woods right now. these three surgeries come very, very closely to each other, and he is bleeding as more than they thought, and eththey had to go k in. they like to do a surgery that stops the bleeding and let the patient recover over 48 hours before they do other surgeries. the fact they are doing these back to back means either he is bleeding more than they thought, or is re-bleeding. it's dangerous to do those surgeries this close together. >> what had a lot of folks confused is yesterday there was a point where we were talking to lawmakers on the air and they said, right after the shooting, he was coherent. he had asked for water. he talked to his wife on the phone. at one point, we were told he was in stable condition. any idea what could have changed between then and post-op? >> that's not unusual. as an er dock and military doc, we're seeing someone is coherent and talking to their loved ones

or us, and they get to the point where they can't talk anymore and they are essentially unconscious. that's because of massive bleeding. once the body starts bleeding that quickly and fast, they will be okay for a little bit and talking to people and coherent. when the organs go into shock because they aren't getting the blood they need, then the body starts shutting down and they run into trouble. for a little bit, the body can compensate. that's probably what happened. he started losing blood early and fast. they are replacing that blood and trying to stop the bleeding. that's my best guess. >> in cases like this, what's typically the prognosis? >> the prognosis, hopefully is good in his case. the better and quicker they can get in and stop that bleeding, the better he'll kroefr. they need to stop the bleeding, let him rest and do the reconstructive surgery to get his hip back and look for

infections. if they have gone in three times it's probably because of bleeding. that's priority number one to stop that bleeding as quick as they can. >> medical correspondent dr. john torres. thank you for that. >> you bet. >> meanwhile, back here in d.c., tickets to tonight's congressional baseball game selling at a rate of $500 for per hour. the organizers saying they are on track to raise more than a million dollars. that is going to charity here in the d.c. area. katie beck is here, and it sounds like they will have quite the crowd tonight, katie. >> reporter: lots of emotion and expectation that people will be coming to show support support in solidarity. this is a long-standing tradition in washington, and this has been going on for 100 years here, and the truth is this is the only bipartisan annual event where democrats and republicans come together and put aside that rhetoric and they

play ball together. one representative said today, this is when everybody wins. this is a game where everybody wins, and people will be looking forward to seeing that after yesterday's events. as you mention the money that has been raised for charity, a lot of lawmakers had concerns saying this needs to go to a good cause and america needs to see this right now. they need to see when the chips are down, the lawmakers will support each other and put party aside. we're hoping to see that on the field. the ticket seaales are going upy the hour, and there are typically about 10,000 people here every year, and they think that number will be well exceeded this year. >> do we know who will be throwing out the first pitch? >> they don't know yet. there were rumors the president wanted to attend, however, security concerns around a stadium wasn't reasonable. but it has been confirmed he won't be here despite his wishes

to be here. >> at nationals park, and the game will go on. from that katie to katy tur in new york. >> thanks, craig. we have one more thing before we leave you. just a couple of days ago, we marked one year since america witnessed the deadliest mass shooting in its history. last april, when signing off from his own live coverage from the scene in orlando, craig asked all of us this question. >> sunday mornings. 50 people, 200 yards behind me, just enjoying life. mood down. another national tragedy, and how will we respond this time? can we figure out some way to keep more americans alive? >> the scene of course, of the pulse shooting. so craig, here we are again. we are covering another shooting, and as we close today, i just want to get your thoughts a year later. >> reporter: well, you know, this case very much different

from that case there in orlando for a host of reasons. but, you know, as i -- as i surmise then, i surmise now, we are going to continue to see cases like this. when people who have each in their hearts can get guns and wreak havoc the way we saw yesterday at the baseball field, i think it bears repeating that what we saw yesterday while heinous on so many levels could have been -- scratch that. would have been horrific if not for the efforts of the capitol police officers. but katy, gun violence and america unfortunately go hand in hand. >> another shooting happened yesterday after that in san francisco. at a ups facility. that was not even the only shooting that happened yesterday. only mass shooting. craig, thank you so much. an honor to host this hour with you today. >> thanks for having me. >> ali picks things up for me.

>> thank you. as katy said, lots to get to on this thursday evening. we're about to get an update on the condition of otto warmbier. he was the student released by north korea after a year in prison. this is the live look at cincinnati where the 22-year-old arrived in a coma yesterday. his parents say he has a severe neurological injury. they spoke yesterday, and it was emotional. >> we're thrilled our son is on american soil. we're at the school that he thrived in, and i'm able to talk to you on otto's behalf and i'm able to wear the jacket that he wore when he gave his confession. i'm not confessing. i'm speaking, but otto, i love you, and i'm so crazy about you, and i'm so glad you are home. you are such a great guy.