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happy father's day, everyone. it's 9:00 in the east, 6:00 in the west and here's what's happening right now. president trump's first big test. what could be a referendum just two days away. what the polls are showing and what's at stake. a congressman shot in the baseball practice undergoes another surgery. we'll hear about his condition. we begin with encouraging news for congressman steve scalise who, along with four others, was shot at a baseball practice in virginia on wednesday. let's go right now to nbc's mike vaquera. good morning. what are you hearing about the congressman committ congressman's condition? >> good morning, alex. there is better news.
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he was brought here in grieveav condition five days ago after a baseball practice in alexandria, virginia. his condition has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. he did have another surgery yesterday, but there are more signs of improvement, he is more responsive and he is speaking with loved ones here at the hospital. earlier, of course, on friday we did hear from the director of trauma here at the washington hospital center, dr. jack sava, who told us when scalise arrived here, he was at imminent risk of death. that bullet presumably from the rifle wielded by the assailant entered at his left hip, traversed his pelvic region, hit bone, hit organs, hit tissue, hit blood vessels and fragmented to literally hundreds of pieces. scalise has undergone multiple operations here on that wound as well as for broken bones, but positive signs here this morning, alex. >> i'm just curious. family coming to visit him? it is father's day.
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i'm sure they're around him, right? >> reporter: he does. he has a family, of course. many of them are here from louisiana. they have asked for privacy at this time. the hospital said there will be no further statements in the course of this weekend. matt mika, the lobbyist who was on the field there himself, grieve grieveously injured, suffered a wound in his chest. they said matt mika did undergo an additional surgery. he is in icu through the weekend but he is communicating through notes as well and improving. so good news all around on this sunday, alex. >> that's good news, what we like to hear. thank you for that. not suchood ns for sailors off the coast of japan. the search for seven missing sailors were called off after bodies were found near the uss
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fitzgerald which collided with another ship two days ago. it's quite murky this story. we all want to know what happened but let's get the latest on what was discovered in the hull of that ship. >> reporter: the uss fitzgerald took quite a huge hit. there was heavy damage to the starboard side of the ship and the birthing areas where over a hundred sailors were sleeping at the time of the collision. there are certainly a lot of questions. there was a lot of water and very little time. in order for anyone to escape, they described it as a traumatic situation where the entire crew had to fight in order to keep the ship from sinking. it took 16 hours to tow it to shore, and that's when divers were able to access those damaged spaces and found the remains of the sailors reported missing. they allowed us to visit the port today to have a look at the ship. the starboard side was crushed.
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there was a huge gash near the keel of the ship, and apparently the damage below the water line is even worse. so there are no fewer than three investigations right now into the cause of this collision. the acx crystal, which is the container ship that was involved in the collision, was making what was described as a routine trip from nagoya to tokyo but then made a sudden and unexplained u-turn about 25 minutes before the collision. now, this is an area that's very busy with sea traffic, but typically traffic that's on the starboard side of a ship. so where the crystal would have been in relation to the fitzgerald gets right of way. it's unclear what happened and why. the weather was clear, unlike it is now, and the fitzgerald is an advanced war ship. it has sophisticated communications equipment and it was all fully functioning at the time. so there are a lot of questions here, alex, and so few answers, and quite a lot of grief. for the families, the friends,
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the crew mates of those sailors who were lost. alex? >> it is a tragic situation. janice, thank you so much for that. well, the president is up and he is tweeting from camp david this morning. let's bring in kelly o'donnell at the white house for us. kelly, i'm curious. isn't this the annual visit to camp david? >> five weeks in august, and this is the first weekend the family is spending at camp david which is about 70 miles from the white house. it is in the maryland mountains, small mountains, but it is a retreat that has all the recreation you could hope for, lots of cabins and meeting rooms, but it has not been the thing the president has been most drawn to. we've seen and talked about on a number of occasions the president going to his own homes or his own golf properties. but it is the first camp david weekend. just guessing here, but the president was maybe enjoying the open air or perhaps the quiet, the birds chirping, because he was tweeting by just after 6:30
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this morning, earlier than normal. i'm usually up early watching his tweets and he was at the keyboard a little earlier than normal talking about not the most controversial things, but kind of taking the bigger picture approach. the president sort of regrouping on his five months in office talking about the make america great again agenda, sort of his buzz word for the presidency. he says it's doing very well despite the distraction, and he's referring to the witch hunt now with capital letters, so he's branding the investigation the witch hunt. many new jobs, high business enthusiasm, massive regulation cuts, 36 new regulation bills signed though no signature achievements there. we just saw the vestiture of gorsuch this week. so the president has been taing abou the policy things he's been doing here and thing he hopes to accomplish. at the same time, there is
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politics in the air because president trump is keeping a close eye on what's happening in georgia, the sixth congressional district. a special house race coming up on tuesday and the president's sort of political successes or failures or controversies are certainly affecting that race. it's become a sort of proxy fight over the trump presidency. >> and that is a perfect set-up, my friend, for the conversation i'm going to have shortly coming up right now. kelly o'donnell, thank you for that. let's bring in kaitlyn huey burns and ozzy, a political reporter from new york. ozzy, your reaction to the tweets the president made this morning, mostly the last one talking about his 50% approval, the one most accurate in the 2016 election, saying it's higher than president obama's. >> once they get into office, they turn away from polls. they say it doesn't matter.
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>> or six months away from the election, right? >> that's what you do when you're hosting a show, perhaps. that's what you do when you're campaigning, what your consultants are supposed to worry about, not the candidate. he is still wrapped in this idea that he has to be popular, that his decisions matter and he is somehow needing to validate, perhaps, his victory. >> do you think he's doing more than just playing into his base? is he trying to convince the general public of this? >> he's popular, ignore all the headlines. he's trying to tell his supporters and perhaps the public that there is something else going on here, that there is a disconnect between what you're reading in the papers and what's actuay happening, that there isome other tru out there. there is an aernate truth, perhaps, that he wants everyone to focus on. >> let's take a listen, kaitlyn, to what newt gingrich said on fox news last night. here it is. >> the greater the economy is involved, mueller in theory should recuse himself. the rules in justice are very simple. you cannot be investigating
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somebody who you are a personal friend of. and that's why this whole thing is so absurd. this whole thing is sick and we ought to understand how sick it is, and if you look at who mueller's hiring, it gets even sicker. >> let's take a look at the things you're writing about recently and that being a real tightrope that republicans are walking as a result of this investigation, the president's tweets as well. when you have someone like this, newt gingrich, a big figure in the republican party, is this something of a tipping point at all? he's criticizing members of his own party, too. >> this comment from newt gingrich is more of an outlyer. you talk to republicans on capitol hill and they say, look, we want the investigation wrapped up as quickly as the president does. we understand his frustrations with the pace of this. sure, we want this wrapped up but nobody on the hill is criticizing the special counsel here. in fact, there is wide bipartisan praise for him, and republicans look to this
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appointment and say, look, this is a good thing in some ways. the results of this investigation will be fair and balanced. so what newt gingrich is saying is not what republicans on the hill are saying, but at the same time, republicans on the hill have to walk this kind of tightrope here. they have to kind of uphold the merits of this russia probe which includes, of course, possible alleged questions about collusion, now the obstruction of justice questions. at the same time, they are kind of threading the needle for defense of donald trump, which has been very apparent in these hearin hearings. you've seen republicans try to build a wall of support for the president. so they're put in this difficult situation. >> you put it very well, tightrope, threading the needle. you're right, it's a very fine line these folks are walking right now. let's get to david clark in the milwaukee office. he has taken himself out of a position in part because of the length of time to hire.
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they say it's a lot to go through the vetting process with the fbi, a lot of these folks have to be cleared before they get their positions. there are a number of senior level staff jobs because reportedly, some of the republicans are worried if they sign on and align themselves with this administration, when they get out of this job, it's going to be bad for their creds, their position. what are you hearing about this? >> you're either with this guy or you're not. and for some civil servants, this is a very difficult decision. there are people who very greatly respect the office and the institution of serving the public, and when the office calls, no matter who is in it, you sort of respond to that call. your nation is asking you for help. to have donald trump, who is such a polarizing figure, be the person making that call, it puts a lot of people in a very, very difficult decision and very difficult position. no one is really undecided about how they feel about donald trump. what they are undecided about is how close to get to him in order to do the job they've always
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wanted to do. for somebody like the sheriff, very closely aligned with donald trump, supported him all the way, there is an idealogical symmetry between them. so for him to sort of take himself out of the running, it getst this very interesting question of effectiveness. can this guy even govern? can this guy even manage? if there is an aura of incompetence, that is something na greatly undermines this whole persona that donald trump has built around himself. >> i want to get to the subject that kelly o'donnell tiered up for us and that being the special election on tuesday. this is to replace tom price who became health and human services secretary. so how much of a bellweather is this if the democrat john ossauf wins? >> districts that barely won, that swung in trump's favor by just a small margin. this is a district that voted overwhelmingly for mitt romney, voted republican through and
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through. these are not trump republicans, these are more traditional republicans. trump looks poised to do well according to the polling so far, though it is very close. i will say, however, that this is a unique race insofar as first, it's a special election, second, the amount of money that's being poured into this race. we haven't seen anything like this. this is not going to be the norm for other districts competing in the mid-term. so if democrats don't win this, all of these items working in their favor, particularly the money and the reresources, it wl be troubling for them. i think it will send a bad signal for the republicans in the mid-term. if the democrats win, it puts them on edge, certainly. what's next after the cosby trial? later the chances there could be a different outcome if the case is retried.
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they started shooting at me. i was pinned down in right field, and at that point i got struck in the leg and made a run for it. i was running for my life. >> well, that was congressional staffer zack barth when a gunman opened fire on wednesday at a congressional baseball practice. let's welcome the congressman of colorado. i know you were also at a baseball field very nearby when the shooting started rkts , so s through that terrible morning. >> the democrats practiced on the field about a mile away. we had practiced at the same time at 7:00 in the morning the very day before. we practiced before work. the coach called us in to the
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dugo dugout. we had two capitol police in the dugout. they said you're putting your practice on hold, there's been a shooting. at that point we didn't know where it was, if they were coming for us, too. we waited about 40 minutes until they had a swat team come and clear the perimeter for us to return to our cars. we got together and said a little prayer as we started to read the twitter feeds that our republican friends had been hit. it was scarier for those who actually heard the gunshots at the practice field, but again, what shocking developments. the last thing you think about when you play baseball in the morning is that there will be a shooting. >> and mo trent had his kids there, of course you don't think of that. did you know it was gop colleagues that had been shot at first in a shooting, or did that come later? >> a couple people had their iphones there, so people were literally looking at the twitter feeds as they came out. there was misinformation, information we read pretty early
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on that our colleague steve scalise had been hit originally, we thought perhaps other colleagues had been hit, then we heard several staff members had been hit. you don't know what's real and what's not, and we didn't know if there was another shooter or a live shooter or what was going on. >> pretty frightening. we have heard several calls for unity in the wake of this, and at the same time we've heard both sides blame each other for heated rhetoric. what, sir, do you think is the solution? can we end partisan bickering? can we turn to civility in politics or is this just democracy in action these days? >> i think what we need here is civility, right? we need to resolve our dircht differences civilly through debate, through elections. nobody should result in violence or physical actions that put other people's lives in jeopardy. >> let's move to new york congressman chris collins who
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says he is going to work with the nra. they're going to try to draft gun legislation to help you and your colleagues arm themselves. are you going to support that? >> again, i think it's my understanding he already has a concealed weapon permit. i think certainly we're having a discussion with the capitol police and others about ways to step up protection. we had a security detail of two people at that field. i strongly suspect next year we'll have several more people that guard us during those activities. i think we are better off, wh w we have highly trained professionals as the capitol hill police officers what ran toward the gunfire for 70-year-old congresspeople for defense. >> let's talk to the man who told president trump to fire the fbi director, that is deputy
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attorney general rod rosenstein. hear what samuel buell told me yesterday. >> i don't think anyone in the law in this situation can tell the president to bully officials who are trying to do their jobs in an investigation, even by some conflict of interest by criticizing the guy or just putting him in a position where he feels like he's not going to put up with this anymore. i think the sort of bullying tweets, i would hope, are not going to get rosenstein to stop doing his job. >> what do you think the president is trying to accomplish with these tweets? >> well, i actually agree with that assessment. i think the president's read on the psychology of justice department officials, of law enforcement officials, career fbi people like mueller is simply wrong. i think he thinks he might be able to intimidate them, but that only makes them stick to their guns. i think they are accustomed to when they are getting close to a suspect and they're getting close to the evidence, the suspect starts threatening. so i think this only leads them
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on to think, hey, maybe we're on to something. i don't think they're going to back off and i certainly hope they don't back off. >> i'm curious what you make of the legal team that bob mueller is putting together. there is a money laundering expert, a cybercrime expert. does that appear to you to be more of a criminal investigation now? >> i think he's really got a good dream team of people there. this is nothing less than the integrity of the president and those who surround him. what could be more important than that? i'm glad that we have that deep bench of experience who is being deployed for this independent investigation. >> all right. congressman jared polis from colorado, thanks so much for joining me. have a good father's day. >> thank you, alex. the investigation the president calls a phony witch hunt inside the justice
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welcome back everyone. i'm alex witt with msnbc headquarters in new york. as we approach the half hour, we're following breaking news in portugal where dozens of people have died in forest fires. nbc's lucy kafanov is monitoring the situation. lucy, what do we know? >> reporter: this is being called the greatest tragedy in recent years in this country. police believe a fire started when lightning struck a tree about 20 miles north of lisbon, that fire traveling very quickly, engulfing the nearby town of petro grande. many people were burned as they tried to flee. the flames engulfed the area between two smaller towns. crews are still struggling to
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cope, the fire very violent in at least two of its four fronts. portugal police say crews were having trouble approaching the area because the fire was so intense, and they've deployed 260 soldiers to help the 70 firefighters already battling the blaze. this is very much an ongoing situation, the european commission now getting involved in working with the eu states to bring in help from the outside. a spanish-fighting aircraft already assisting on sunday morning and another one expected to arrive later in the day. france is also sending some aircrafts and portugal declaring three days of national mourning for the victims in the blaze. as i say, that death toll tragically expected to rise. alex? >> it's actually mind-boggling when you think about it. help me understand. there are two villages. they must be in a very dense ar area, very remote. that's an area where people didn't have word or were unable to get out. was there only one road?
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>> i'm not sure about the road, but i know these were very small villages. petro grande has a population of about 3,000 people. if you look at properties near there, it's a good place to get really tiny bungalows and mes. trip adviser sendseople there for isolation. temperatures are nearly at 100 fahrenheit, so that helped fires spread very quickly. and dry thunderstorms, it is so hot there that the rain rain evaporates before it hits the ground and that's why a lightning strike could be like striking a match on dry tinder. >> i got a text from family in paris this morning saying it's really hot there, too. thank you for that, lucy. keep us updated. let's go into the justice
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department's investigation into election interference after president trump ramped up his attacks in a tweet storm on friday claiming it's all a phony witch hunt. joining me now is charlie savage and msnbc contributor. charlie, good morning to you. i'm looking at a piece you wrote digging into all of this. are these attacks having a ripple effect on the justice department as a whole? >> well, out in the field, the u.s. attorney's office is bringing ordinary katcases arou the country, though they don't have actual senate-confirmed attorneys because the president fired all of them. we have a sense that life is going on more or less normally for them. but at main justice, justice department headquarters here in washington, d.c., it is another story. people are telling us there is a sense of great uncertainty. even people who came in as part of the trump administration, you have a sense of not really sure where this is going. the white house attacking the
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deputy attorney ral, rod s rosenstein, more or less openly earlieth week for leading a witch hunt against him. of course, he's not really leading that witch hunt. he's overseeing bob mueller who is leading it and doing it at great arm's distance from him. but right now there is a sense of being under siege at the justice department. >> yeah, i want to read something from "the new yorker" magazine that has a piece that ros rosenstein finds himself in right now. it is a classic trump. he ensnared rosen ds stein in a scheme to get rid of comey. now that rosenstein has tried to correct his error and insulate the investigation from further meddling, trump is using rosenstein's role in the scheme to try to push him aside. is that what's happening here? >> it would fall to the number three official, rachel brand, at the justice department. she is less of a prosecutor
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type. in fact, she has no law enforcement experience at all. she is sort of a more conservative judicial philosophy person that helped the judicial pick justices and that kind of experience. i would like to point something out. this is a little misleading and this may be part of what the president is up to with these tweets. as i mentioned earlier, it's not the case that rosenstein himself is leading this investigation. it's also not quite clear that the focus of the obstruction of justice component of this investigation is squarely looking at the firing of mr. comey. the only public evidence for that is trump's own tweet, as opposed to something like trump's pressuring of comey to drop the criminal investigation into michael flynn, mr. trump's former national security adviser, which rod rosenstein had nothing to do with at al so it may be that by frami this obstruction of justice turn in the investigations being solely about the comey firing when it's actually focused somewhere else, the president is
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refocusing it, at least the public perception of it, on a place where he's on stronger ground. because, of course, he does have the authority to fire anyone, but that doesn't necessarily mean he has the authority to force an investigation to be dropped for an improper reason. >> what about rosenstein's somewhat cryptic statement on thursday warning people to be skeptical of anonymous allegations? is there any consensus rafegardg what he was referencing? >> obviously, anyone looks at that from the outside, given the fact we know the president has focused people like comey, like the director of national intelligence, like the director of nsa to say public things regarding him, we say, oh, is this another instance where the white house was pushing mr. rosenstein to say something publicly, discrediting the news accounts of where the investigation is going? i can tell you that at least people inside the justice department, speaking anonymously, are insisting, though, that he did that on his own, that it was sort of a straw that broke the camel's back.
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the daily leaks about where the investigation is going and what it's looking at and what it's focusing on that has become an obstruction of justice investigation, that -- of course, we knew that, but the official sort of reported confirmation of it, that it's looking at financial transactions of jared kushner. of course, we knew that with the official confirmation of it. whoever is confirming these things for reporters should stop because it's driving him crazy. take that for what it's worth. >> thank you for joining me. >> thank you. the strategies for the defense and the prosecution in the bill cosby trial, next. >> we will evaluate and review our case. we will take a hard look at everything involved and then we will retry it.
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mistrial on the sex assault against him. here's brian mcmonagle. >> i never pause for someone who maintains his innocence, who from the beginning has assured me i will be able to represent him and do so with dignity. >> joining me now, katy fang, nbc legal analyst. katy, you were with me all day yesterday as we were going through the breaking news. tell us what the prosecution is doing right now as they prepare for a trl? how do they process a of this just 24 hours later? >> they definitely look at the trial transcript, alex, that's where you first start. then you decide if you want to stick with your witnesses, someone essential to prove the elements of the crime. but then you maybe take another stab and see if this judge will allow you to parade in more than one of the accusers of bill
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cosby. as you know, they tried to get 13 more accusers of bill cosby into evidence, and he said, no, they would only go with one, kelly johnson. i maintain, alex, i think this jury wanted to hear from bill cosby and that contributed to the fact it took them so long to deliberate. finally what you do, you determine whether or not after you hopefully hear from the members of this jury and you hear what was the split in terms of the vote, then you maybe re-evaluate -- maybe you want to offer a plea. maybe you want to try to consider working it out instead of going to another trial. >> interesting. i want to play for you, katy, what another lawyer for cosby told reporters yesterday. here it is. >> this is what happens. juries are stuck. when a prosecutor seeks to put someone in prison for things that are simply not presented in the courtroom. and the jury stuck to what they were asked to do and that is to review the evidence before them
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and there simply wasn't enough. >> so what do you suspect the case is going to look like for a retrial as it relates to this lack of evidence? >> well, it's going to happen pretty quickly if a retrial happens. the judge has indicated he wants to see that done within the next 120 days, which is four months. again, the evidence is not going to change that much, but what i think is important, alex, for everybody to think about is this. billosby has 60 accusers. there are several pending lawsuits against him currently across the united states. it gives more of an opportunity for a potential jury pool to be tainted. that's really the key. can your jurors ignore the fact that there are 60 accusers, and bill cosby, having been married for 50 years to his wife, did he lie during those 50 years and not tell his wife about all of his indiscretions? remember, the theory of the defense was he's a bad guy but he's not a rapist. that can only get you so far because that's a really thin line to walk. >> you mentioned those others
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who were not called to testify. gloria allred has said she wants about a dozen of them to retestify during the retrial and she represents them. what would compel a judge to allow this the next time around? >> i think it's going to be a tough go for gloria allred who is a civil lawyer. she obviously would not be involved in that process, it would be up to the d.a. again to try. and the d.a. can try, but unless there is something compelling and new, i don't think this judge is going to allow those other dozens of accusers to come forward because the evidence is not going to change. it was always based on m.o., alex. it was the idea that bill cosby would drug the victim and sexually assault the victim. unless there is something new we haven't heard thus far, or more importantly, something the court has not heard thus far, i doubt the other accusers will be able to come forward except the one so far, which is kelly johnson. >> you talk about trying this in the state of pennsylvania.
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is there an ability to move this trial elsewhere? >> this case was brought specifically based on the jurisdictional strictures in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. this is where it's going to be. the only change we knew about was the fact the venue had to be changed. there was a claim that bill cosby couldn't get a fair and impartial jury seated in the original county, so they moved it 300 miles away. as we know, those jurors were equeri sequestered for a period of time, but realistically, thi se remains in pennsylvania. >> thank you very much. just ahead, what does the president get out of tweeting that he's under investigation by counselman rob mueller? [ america by simon and garfunkel ]
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let me be very clear here, as it has been since the beginning. the president is not and has not been under investigation for obstruction. the president sent out that tweet directly in response to the "washington post" story with the five anonymous, unnamed sources from unnamed agencies. when the president gave that full interview to lester holt, he said to lester holt from nbc news, your colleague, he said that in light of all of this, the removal of james comey -- in fact, he knew it -- would lengthen the time this investigation would take but he thought it was in the best interest of the american people. he was fully aware if, in fact, he took this action he could see a lengthening of the process. >> jay seculow there from the team about him being
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investat. let's go to the people's project abou hijacking the election to save the world. welcome to you do you buy it? >> of course not, no. it seems clear, even from the testimony that comey gave that the president was being investigated for obstruction of justice and we of course had media reports of the same and we have the president himself seeming to confirm that in a tweet. i do not envy the president's cabinet trying to clean this up. but i think it seems clear that the president is being investigated for obstruction of justice and rightfully so. >> let's take a listen to newt gingrich on the president's tweets. here it is. >> i think if the president set a goal of spending the next 30 days tweeting about positive
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things, the great reformers of the veteran's amin stradministr for 30 days say i am not going to send out a single negative tweet, he would be 100% better off than continuing on the road he's on right now. >> did the president cause for problems or even give the investigation more fodder by tweeting all that? >> yes. and i agree with newt gingrich 100ers. a tornado has come through d.c. and there is debris all over the place and a lot of this tornado is the president's own doing and his staff is trying to pick up the pieces and when they try, another tornado comes through. the president is his own worst enemy from a communications standpoint. i can't speak to legal standpoint. but as a pr person, he's stepping on his own message here and he's doing so almost
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deliberately. it is self-destructive. so speaker gingrich is absolutely right. i would say, mr. president, i understand that you want to tweet and i understand this is a mechanism for you to get or message out. but please only tweet about the positive things so we could augment your message and augment your policies. >> why would the president put these tweets out? what does he get out of it? this is publicizing information that in the first place reflects rather poorly on him and may not be true. >> i don't think it is a strategic play. i think this president from day one -- >> reactionary? >> even in the reasons he decided to run for president, i think there is this deep seeded sense of grievance and that makes him feel like he's always being attacked. even now that he's the president of the united states he's always the victim of the media, of the
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deep state, of the house freedom caucus, whoever it is. and these tweets and many of his actions are a response to that sense of personal attack and grievance. >> robert mueller, talk to me about the president's iedsolode. >> for all intents and purposes from a constitutional standpoint, could he do it, yes. but i use the analogy again about the whole tornado coming through. if, in fact, the president does that, we'r igrave, grave constitutional danger there. the last time that was done richard nixon was almost to the doors of impeachment. they both refused to fire archibald cox, who was the special prosecutor. the president as i understand it can legally do that, but constitutionally it would be a grave, graf mve mistake.
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>> that's interesting you bring that up. because this is the anniversary of the watergate break in. it is interesting you making the parallels there. your thoughts on all this if the president tries to do that, to ditch mueller, is that the beginning of the end for him? >> who knows. i hesitate to guess the future, but i will say this. republicans have largely stuck with this president, even as his approval ratings have plummeted, after he made questionable move after questionable move. but there will come a point when that will change and quickly. democrats are pow erpowerless. but the moment that mitch mcconnell, for example, changes his mind, that's when this president needs to be worried about something like firing bob mueller would invite that kind of reaction. >> i'm curious how long you think republicans are going to standby the president while this
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investigation is underway and his reaction to it and all this continues. >> well, remember, you're innocent until proven guilty. if, in fact, the president is under investigation, he is technically innocent until proven gui so i think republicans will standby him until there is very, very strong evidence that's clear and present that he's guilty. secondly, if, in fact, his approval ratings with the base, specifically the base and their approval ratings into the elections are in danger, then that's when i think you will see them flee. >> what about on wednesday when jay johnson expected to testify in front of the house intelligence committee. what do you think we're going to hear? >> i think the spotlight is going to be on the fact that whatever the president's role or the president's campaign role was, russia attacked our
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democracy. this president doesn't seem to care and that in and of itself is a questionable potential violation of his oath of office. why doesn't the president -- why isn't he concerned about this attack on the democracy and the fact as jim comey said they're coming back. we've got elections going on this year and every year after that and the russians are going to be trying to attack those elections too. i think that's what we will be focussed on this week. >> okay. good to see you both. thank you so much, robert and crystal. you guys have a good weekend. happy father's day. >> thanks. you too. happy father's day to all the dads as well. >> that's it for this hour. coming up next, why russia's hacking of the election is worse than originally reported. i'll see you here at noon eastern on msnbc live. award winning interface. award winning design. award winning engine.
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that why did he say he was? i mean, was this he just mistweeted? are we not to take him at his word? >> no. the president's tweet was in response to the washington post story. you're reading more into the tweet than what was there. the tweet was in response to the washington post story with no named sources whatsoever. >> good morning and happy father's day from a.m. joy. it is sunday morning and you know what that means. church? well, only f the saints who dvr us unsteinstead of watching. no, friends. sunday morning has come to mean the obligatory a.m. tweet storm by none other than your commander in tweet. trump took to twitter from camp david, the government owned retreat in the maryland mountains where he dared to venture for the first time, going rustic rather than regal and
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