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been killed and wounded. there are believed to be hostages in this luxury resort. a u.s. embassy official says he has not heard of any americans at the resort, at least at this moment. on the phone with us now is nbc's chlene gubash in cairo. what are you hearing right now? >> well, so far, as far as we know the attack is still ongoing and the malian anti-terror and the french forces have already surrounded the area and they're engaging the attackers. and so far, that's where the situation stands right now. similar attack happened last year -- sorry in 2015, november of 2015 where militants took 170 people hostage and they ended up killing 20 people and the security forces rushed in. american security forces as well as french and malian security

forces and managed to save 150 people. so they have been effective so far in fighting the militants. >> what -- are these known militant organized groups? >> well, that i are. they are -- they are radical sunni militant groups that are linked to al qaeda. i'm not sure about this particular group of people they just identified them as unknown gunmen at this point. but previously it's been militant groups that are linked to al qaeda organizations. they had taken over timbuktu several years ago. with the help of the french the malian authorities have managed to bring them somewhat under control, but it's a constant battle against these militants. >> thank you so much, charlene. with that breaking story coming out of the country of mali. a population of 16 or 17 million. as we get more information from charlene or lucy cavanaugh in

london we'll have it for you. now the search for the seven missing sailors it has come to the end. the crews were called off the search when several bodies were found inside the "uss fitzgerald." the sailors' deaths come after a container ship collided early saturday off the coast of japan. now to portugal where 61 people were killed, dozens wounded after a series of forest fires. this is happening in the central part of the country. portugal's prime minister is calling it the biggest human tragedy the country has seen in years. that death toll is expected to rise still. officials say many victims were trapped in their cars. as flames were sweeping over a road northeast of lisbon. the capital there. the country has declared now three days of national mourning. now to president trump. he's expected to return to the white house at any moment from his weekend at camp david. his first visit there. but the swirling questions about the russia probe are only growing as he arrives this afternoon. the president doubling down on his assertion that this is a

witch-hunt calling it a distraction. on friday the president tweeted in part quote, i'm being investigated for firing the fbi director. but today one of the president's own personal lawyers made a startling claim when he appeared with chuck todd on nbc's "meet the press." >> when did the president become aware that he was officially under investigation by the special counsel? >> the president is not under investigation by the special counsel. the tweet from the president was in response to the five anonymous sources that were purportedly leaking information to "the washington post" about a potential investigation of the president. but the president as james comey said in his testimony and we know as of today, the president has not been and is not under investigation. >> now, so far the trump administration has not cleared up the confusion more has special counsel mueller's team. meanwhile the president is facing a friday deadline to confirm whether or not these so-called tapes that he tweeted about of ousted fb director

james comey and he speaking actually exist. the ranking democrat on the house committee, adam schiff, is ready to step up on the topic. >> i would hope by the date that we set in our bipartisan letter the white house will respond that yes, they have tapes. yes they will preserve them as we have urged and required. and yes they'll turn them over or that no, in fact there are no tapes it was an idle threat. but one way or another, we need to get an answer. if we can't get an answer then i think we need to -- we'll ultimately need to subpoena those potential documents to make sure that we have them. >> joining us now, msnbc's legal correspondent ari melber. he has a special edition of his show looking at the 45th anniversary of the watergate break in. also with uss mhael bahar who led schiff on intelligence. he's been an active figure in

the russia investigation until his departure there. ari, let's start with what the president saying versus what his personal lawyer is saying. what are you diving into? >> they're condra diktding each other and one could argue this is proceeding and the president is not a personal subject of it. but the problem with that is that if you believe these reports and nbc news has also confirmed that the special counsel is looking to talk to the intelligence sources about the president's direct activities, then it would seem that is part of what's under review. which as we say, there wasn't any wrongdoing, but that's what they were looking at. if you take twitter out, this would be the normal legal defense because absent some notification from the special counsel's office the white house could accurately assert they haven't been notified of this. even though they're lawyering up, they have more criminal lawyers, you would make this claim. i think what you're seeing is a pretwitter message from his

lawyers in a post twitter world where donald trump has announced he's under investigation. that's for him to clear up. >> if what is true might be the worlds they want to put in some of the tweets. can the white house ask mueller, are you investigating me and get a response? >> well -- >> officially ask. >> well, you raised the question. that is reportedly what donald trump kept doing. one thing not in dispute about comey's testimony he said that the president kept asking him about getting a public book of health, clear me, they had three discussions about it and comey said i don't want to say that now, because he has a duty to update. and ironically perhaps if you know history repeats itself this is according to "the washington post" exactly what happened. again, doesn't mean he did anything wrong. but yes, you can always ask for that. the problem is that things change and things go on over time. investigators have to follow the facts. >> all right.

michael, let's move to the tapes. you saw representative schiff there, your exboss. what do you think he will do? will he go for the subpoena might be a possibility here for these tapes? >> well, i think one thing you have to realize is you have to go back to the committee rules that are really going to be governing this investigation and subpoenas are involved -- issued by the chairman or by the majority in a vote. so one thing we have to realize those rules are going to govern. so the subpoena and pen are in the hands of those who can wield it. >> as you're watching representative schiff move forward in this investigation, michael, from what you know working with him and now moving forward and what you saw today, what's the mood for that investigation? how far -- what's your sense? >> look, you know, the house intelligence committee for, you

know, almost 4 1/2 years has been in many ways it felt to me one of the few bastions of civility and productivity and bipartisan. that has sebastian shaken a little bit and i know the mood is one of worry because there was a real sense of pride on the house intelligence committee on both sides that folks who worked together which they have that they can disagree but they'll always try to put solving the problems of the country first. and my hope is i think shared by -- that folks that are still there, we'll get back to that. and we're going to continue to make this about country, not party. >> ari, i want to get back to this issue of the personal lawyer on the sunday shows today. he was saying that you investigate the -- investigate the fbi. that's consistently not legal. is there any truth to that? >> no. i think it's really interesting where we're going here, because some of the rhetoric has gotten escalated and the president is

entitled to some deference, both constitutionally and as any potential defendant would be in the sense of you're innocent until proven guilty. the fact they're looking at the firing of the fbi director does not mean it was inappropriate. this investigation could ultimately be great news for the white house if someone as respected as mueller finishes the job, maybe no collusion, maybe no obstruction and we move on as a country. it's interesting how much they attack him. but to the core of your question, you're a nation of laws and no one is above the law. including public officials, including judges, even the president, can be reviewed and investigated. now there are different processes in the constitution for how -- as lawyers wod y adjudicate it, how to deal with it. but no it's a rather remarkable statement from this lawyer. we saw alan dershowitz, respected law professor claim somehow there's no safeguard, that the laws don't apply to the president. that's not the case, that's not the truth. so ultimately if people have

done wrongdoing their conduct will be reviewed. we're a nation of laws. that's what the justice department reviews. >> you brought up bob mueller here. newt gingrich is saying -- he no longer thinks mueller can be fair as a special counsel. the reporting about potential obstruction of justice investigations coming from bob mueller and do you expect the president here to fire him or rod rosenstein potentially as well and how might the house intel committee react to that? >> well, i think if the house intelligence committee ever gets the sense that there are any individuals who are trying to impede or obstruct the investigation they'll do everything in their power to stop that because this is so important. it is an attack that not only happened, the russia attack, it's ongoing. and its could very well happen again. so anything that takes away from that critical element of finding out what happened, why and how and how to prevent it will be

met very strongly i believe by thintelligencecommittees. >> thank you so much. ari, beforwe finish up here, you have a show that's starting in about 50 minutes. what is it about? >> we have the 45th anniversary of the watergate burglary so we have special prosecutors, elizabeth holdsman on the house committee. dick cavett, tom brokaw who was offered the position of white house press secretary under nixon. >> i remember that. >> and then most importantly to me i have obtained a never before published document from inside the special prosecutors office. we'll explain what's in its for first time on air on the show. >> your team has been working on it. i have been around them. >> everybody is working hard. >> it will be a good one. ari melber thank you. and michael bahar thank you for joining us. next encouraging new information on the condition of louisiana congressman steve scalise who was shot last week during baseball practice. that's next. en this bell rings..

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the condition of congressman steve scalise is showing improvement today. he was one of five people shot when a gunman opened fire on a baseball field outside d.c. on wednesday. according to the hospital staffers the house majority whip is now showing signs of improvement and speaking with loved ones following an additional surgery. let's go straight to mike vicara. earn you were -- yesterday you were telling us the good news and the bad news and we're focused on the good news. he's getting better. >> that's right. it is good news on this father's day for steve scalise and his family gathered at the bedside. it read essentially that his condition has been upgraded after another surgery. he's now gone from critical to

serious condition. he's showing signs of improvement as you reported he's more responsive and speaking with loved ones who are gathered here at his bedside at medstar washington hospital. so a few miles north of the capitol. it is being tweeted under his account he's following his beloved lsu baseball team as they compete in the world baseball finals. we learned on friday, much more serious than anybody had thought. he was close to death according to dr. jack sabah the director of the trauma center here at the washington hospital center. and more good news as well for another victim of that assailant in alexandria during that early morning baseball practice last wednesday. matt mika the lob yessist who was on hand, his family put out a statement yesterday saying he had too had undergone additional surgeries and he's communicating with loved ones through notes. so good news all around on this

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tell us what the idea is behind supporting here planned parenthood and doing this fund-raiser. >> well, the idea is really just to help raise money for planned parenthood. we as owners are progressive and we're women owners. we're women-led organization and we're women's basketball team. so women's health is an incredibly important thing to us. as we see the national debate on health care and that many people might lose their health care we thought we could do something locally. >> how did you go through the other discussion? we want to participate in this and we understand there could be some political blow back along the way. >> well, we as an ownership group talked about it and understood there might be some political blow back. but we felt that this was such an important issue that it was worth taking that kind of a risk. we know our fans, our fans are generally progressive people as well. we thought our fans would appreciate this effort. >> have you heard any criticism from your fans or others there in the northwest of your move there? >> you know, the response has

been overwhelmingly positive. of course there's been some negative comments but i would say 95% greater than 90% of the feed back we have has been positive. >> knowing that the move and the brand that you bring toe these -- to these issues could be at risk or you're saying it's gone well for you. >> we have never done this before as an organization. as individuals, as owners we have supported many of the nonprofits in this community but as an organization devoting some of the game revenue to an nonprofit we have never done that before. >> and what was that discussion like when you and the co-owner -- did you call each other, one day you said, we have to do this? i mean, how did that happen? >> one of my partners ginny gilder attended a planned parenthood event and said we ought to do something. so at the next meeting, she said what do you think? we kicked it around. i thought this is an organization that we definitely feel is an important thingor women. it's important for access to

women's health care. and we thought it was something that we could do. then we talkedhe o staff and said, what kind of a program could we put together, what kind of a platform could we put together and that's how we came up with donating $5 of every ticket on july 18th to the organization. >> the public places of your team, the players, they must now face the questions and the criticisms. >> they haven't really expressed that they have received any criticism directly. our players are -- because so many of our players play internationally they're aware of world events and they're progressives as well. often times they volunteer for local nonprofits. one of our players regularly goes to children's hospital. so it's not something where if we felt it was out of line for our players. we did let them know in advance we were planning on doing this and we didn't require any participation on their part. >> did you get doppler -- that's the mascot for those watching. >> yes.

doppler will be on the plaza and will be in the game as well. >> all right, quickly, golden state, what do you think of potentially if they were to decide not to go to the white house? >> i think that's a very individual decision. it's an honor to be invited to the white house. at the same time, if they feel strongly that that is not -- they can't support it then it's definitely up to them as an organization. and as individuals. >> dawn trudeau, thank you so much, co-owner of the seattle storm. have a good sunday. >> thank you. happy father's day. >> thank you. two days until the special election in georgia. how a conservative pac is using the shooting of republican congressman steve scalise to try to sway voters. (vo) pro plan bright mind

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hi, richard lui. here's what we're watching on msnbc on the bottom of the hour. breaking news out of mali. we're learning officials are it willing us that -- are telling us that an attack by suspected jihadists is under way right now

at a luxury resort. reuters is saying now 32 guests have been rescued by security forces. we're just getting that in. officials on the ground say at least two people have been killed. we'll stay on top of that breaking news story. in st. paul, minnesota, protesters are marching in response to the acquittal of the police officer who was found not guilty for shooting and killing philando castile during a traffic stop last year. the protest is to honor castile on this father's day and hundreds are expected to turn out. in portugal, 60 people were killed and many died trying to flee hair cars being -- before getting trapped inside. a lightning strike may have been the cause of this raging fire. we're just two days away now from the special congressional election in georgia between jon ossoff and republican karen handel. an a gop ad is using last week's congressional shooting as a hot

button topic. >> now the unhinged left is applauding shooting republicans. when will it stop? it won't if jon ossoff wins on tuesday. >> well, the election may come to voter turnout no doubt. in the primary for instance when you look at those numbers, the different between actual and modelled voter turnout for white negatives was negative, more than 3% for democrats and nearly 16% for republicans. folks are not showing up there. for african-americans, as you look at that second line, also negative. more than 14% down for democrats and more than 22% down for republicans. hispanic voters had a plunge of more than 17% for republicans. and the asian pacific island had a positive difference, big, almost 12 especially points for the democrats. down the equal for republicans. almost 11 percentage points.

let's go to nbc's political reporter from sandy springs, georgia. that's really interesting there, alex, because when you look at the african-american and the asian-american vote together, 13% of the voters there and 10% of the voters there in that district. very key, is it not? >> absolutely, richard. mine, the cliche is true. this is going to come down to turnout and the candidates will be battling some rain that we have been here and some heat as well. but in a special election where people are not used to turning out it's all about motivating the base. karen handel the republican yesterday held a big rally at an airplane hangar with two trump cabinet victims. she attacked jon ossoff as too liberal, too mh like nancy pelosi. jon ossoff has been going around to various campaign offices like this one here. he was here a few hours ago. i got a chance to talk with him earlier. take a look at what he had to say. >> it's critical that folks make

their voices heard. exercise their right to vote. and, you know, this is an opportunity for georgia to send the message to the rest of the country that we're not satisfied by the direction of things in washington, that we want a greater commitment to accountability. that we can build a coalition committed to those goals. >> this race is extremely close, richard. there was a poll out that showed it within two points and that's basically been where the polling is at. i talked to one group who said they're preparing for three possible contingencies. a win, a loss and a recount. because of the -- how close it is. those numbers that you mentioned at the top about various demographics those are key for democrats. they're outnumbered by republicans. they need to maximize the turnout as much as possible and republicans have a lot more room for error. there's simply more of them here. >> one of the things that when i lived in that area where you're close to where this district is in the atlanta metro area, churches, right, churches on saturday and sunday a great

place for candidates to go. if you want to reach those demographics that we were talking about and that you were alluding to as well. were the two candidates out there at churches over this weekend? >> yeah, jon ossoff has a major ace in the hole which is john lewis, the congressman who represents the area around here. he was at a black church this morning with john lewis who has been instrumental to his campaign and karen handel has been tapping into the evangelical community around here very much. it's base at this point they're trying to do, go tv, get out the votes. >> well, alex, you lucky dog. you got the great story for next couple of weeks at least there in georgia. thank you, sir, for stopping by to tell us the very latest in that race in georgia. appreciate it. let's bring in now republican strategist joe

watkins and chris kofinas. start with you, joe. interesting stuff, wouldn't you say? >> very interesting stuff. i mean, this is a race -- this is a seat that's been held by the republicans for a while. tom price he had this seat, so it should be the republican seat. but the polling has showed it very, very close. ossoff has been doing very, very well in the polling so far. but turnout is what matters so it's all going to come down to who shows up on tuesday. i think handel has a good shot if she gets her voters to show up on tuesday. >> what does this mean, this sixth district in georgia and what may come of it? a lot of us trying to understand what the trump effect might mean for future races as we start that campaign season in september. >> well, i think there's a couple of ways to look at it. in the short term, you know, that we're even talking about a race that should be solid republican seat is indicative of how much this trump hangover is really starting to emerge.

i mean, if you look at some -- at least of the reports of the private polling that trump's favorability is down into the 40s that's indicative of how this race which should not have been one has become one. for republicans i think it's that the worry is if this goes democrat, what does that indicate and at least to me without exaggerating the race, the significance of one race what it means is they have got a serious problem on their hands. if they're losing suburban districts in the south, that is a problem. and you're going to see an increasing degree of panic because at a minimum what it shows is that trump is a problem. and you've got to assume i would say fairly that the problems the president faces are not going to go away any time soon, so put that together. you start creating this potential wave conditions for '18 where at least it starts emerging the democrats could have a really good midterm. >> 2010 was the last one we saw.

tea party i believe was that word. joe, when you're looking at those numbers, both in the district which 538 helped us look through, you saw the african-american vote. saw the asian vote. again the black vote there is 13%. the asian vote is 10% of the population there. this is not necessarily unlike what we may be seeing nationally in recent years. the question has been for instance, the black vote after the first african-american president was decreasing in terms of those coming out. is that a thematics you saw there that's happening nationally too? >> well, it's true. i mean, barack obama -- president obama was so successful in getting voters to turn out. i mean, he had great turnout. in first election in 2008 in some precincts you had 100% turnout which is unheard of anywhere. i know in pennsylvania that was the case. a little less so in 2012 but

still extraordinary. hillary clinton was not able to capitalize on that kind of turnout in her race in 2016. that's what really hurt her. 16 million less voters showed up for hillary clinton and that hurt her in north carolina and pennsylvania and wisconsin and wisconsin and michigan and the others. so it's going to matter here in this race. i mean, remember, this is a district that donald trump only won by about 1% in 2016. so this is not a heavily trump district as such but it is a strong republican district. and karen handel has branded herself as a ted cruz kind of republican, more in the mold of someone like sarah palin. she has been endorsed by sarah palin of course for numerous races and for this race. so she's really appealing to her base to come out and vote. and to show up on tuesday. >> yeah. >> and if the -- if it continues the way she has been, she has a shot to win this on tuesday. >> you were saying, chris, let's

not overdig for a theme coming out of this sixth district here. but the cato institute in trying tounrstand, you know, what is at play here, what c we take away fro this idea of the trump effect and the democrats in terms of what they can learn from this race coming out of georgia is they basically said for those who voted for donald trump, there's about five different groups and they have different issues that they care about. for democrats, it's not about the issues per se. it's more about the energy in coming together. would you agree with those broad themes that the cato institute came up with in their research in looking into this quote/unquote trump effect? >> in general. i think the problem that president trump has, republicans have is that coalition was not a natural republican coalition. and you had a lot of voters that were either disaffected that voted for trump and made a difference in some of those close states. he has not done anything since he's become president to appease

i would say or win those voters over. in fact, i would say the opposite. because of all the different scandals it's actually fed their concern that things aren't changing, things are going to get worse. the challenge for democrats i think is really simple. one, you have to kind of feed off the negative energy that the other side is kind of creating. that's what's happening in this race -- the ossoff race. there's a lot of anti-trump energy that's not feeding this -- that's now feeding this momentum and at the same time, this is i think more important for a national election. we have to offer i think a clear alternative in terms of what policies and direction we want to take this country. it's made easier by trump and the dysfunction of the republican party but we have to make that case. >> we'll watch that vote coming this tuesday. both of you have a great sunday and if you're fathers have a great father's day. >> thanks so much, richard. >> all right. the senate health care bill it can affect millions of people and leader mitch mcconnell has

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you have seen the bill and i'm not asking for details on this. but can we get some general outlines of the republican plan? will the secret republican bill let insurance companies go ahead and drop prescription drug coverage or kick people off medicare? >> senator warren, i can't answer that. >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell wants a vote on the bill before the july 4th recess, the deadline leaving little time for public debate. a recent poll suggests only 17% of americans approve of the house republican health care plan. for more on this alan smith, politics writer for business insider. alanna shore, political reporter. thank you for both for being here. al, what's the strategy behind the secret? there's certainly the idea that what bernie sanders is saying, so they can rush it out, get the

vote and get it done with. but is it also -- is it covers a fig leaf for those who are not participants in the process? >> yes, it gives an opportunity to those who are on the fence to sort of go out and say i don't agree with the process, i want this out in the open and sort of this give this opinion as if they're somewhat against the bill as it would appear, but actually just being against the process. i mean, they can still obviously vote for the bill if the they like the contents that are in it. it gives them wiggle room to distance themselves. a lot of the swing votes in the republican party, while not totally abandoning the contents of the bill. >> so the secret process that the 13 senators are going through, are they basically republican senators stuck between a rock and hard place? whether they get the cbo score and then vote on it or vote on it and then get the cbo score, either way voters when they go back home in august they may be saying, what are you doing? >> well, i think they are definitely going to wait to get the cbo score before voting on

it. but you're totally right about the rock and the hard place. because basically, they're deciding how much more friendly can we make this house health care bill and if they make it too friendly they lose conservatives like ted cruz and if not enough, they lose the moderates. it's a problem. >> what's interesting here in cases like this where you have one party in the white house and then in both houses as well on the hill, one would say you can get a major piece of legislation early on in the administration through like what president obama had done. by saying that this time, not true. we have the president saying that the house republican bill is mean. >> there isn't much for the senate bill to be that much different than what the house bill is in the first place if they want to pass its with 50 votes. so president trump reportedly saying that the house bill is mean really gives them sort of even less wiggle room. because you can see the attack

ads from the democrats starting right now. i mean, i know in pennsylvania that there are a couple of republican congressmen who are rumored to be running for the governship and even president trump said this is mean and they voted for it. this is happening across the board and the you're a senator like senator coe pidto in west virginia, where trump is very popular, you have to weigh even stronger if you want to vote for it if you have president trump saying that the legislation is quote mean. >> i know in the long term effects is when september starts, right, so they have their august break. they do vote and it gets through, what is it going to be like for those congress members having to go up for re-election starting in september when that campaign season goes and this is not a good thematic. >> no, absolutely not. when we talk about the july 4th recess the big reason for that deadline is mcconnell doesn't want republicans to get walloped

at town halls during that one week break and it will get worse. >> so tell me about this, because folks that are at risk here. 23 million according to the cbo with the house version. and it's -- if the hits are correct, the senate version would be correct to that. if the cbo comes back at 18 or 19 million, where are they going to compromise? where in the different spaces, whether it's tax credits or pre-existing conditions or medicaid. where might the compromises be? >> i think you'll see compromises on the tax credits front. even republicans who claim they have seen bits and pieces of the bill seem pretty okay with that. but the real problem is the medicaid expansion. there's talk of the seven year phaseout winding down of the expansion. dean heller in nevada is getting hit hard by democrats. even though seven is friendlier than the house approach again, it might not save some of the republican incumbents. >> where do you think this will go now? i said 23 million, if they make

that compromise, if they make that less mean, what might that number look like? >> it's hard to tell. because we don't know what kind of compromises they're making on the medicaid expansion or on tax credits. so it's kind of hard to say. but even if ty reduce it by five or six millioneople they have to deal with the same sort of attacks of, you know, 17, 18 million people could be losing their health coverage within the next ten years. >> alanna, get in on that. i know you wanted to say something. >> i was going to say even in the number is friendlier from the cbo keep in mind what i wanted to say, we had a long period where that house cbo score was out there. what democrats fear is that mcconnell might spring this bill even days or maybe even hours after the cbo number becomes public. that's as important as the number. how much time does the public have to absorb it. >> sure. thank you so much. alanna shore. next, how the roles of fathers are changing. ♪

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on this father's day, we want to take a look at the changing role of the men in our lives unlike the stereotypical dads depicted in cartoon characters like homer simpson who often would skip family responsibilities and leave the majority of work for their wives, to day's dads are nothing like what you see there. in fact, the role of father has changed quite an awful lot in recent years. overall, moms and dads work almost equally hard on behalf of their families. according to a survey in today's daily beast, dads put in an average 54 hours a week and dads put in 53. to discuss the changing world, josh levs, fatherhood columnist and author of the book "all in," how our work first culture fails families and businesses and how we can fix it together z.

>> across the boortd when you put together the different forms of work this is important to understand, paid work, unpaid work like housework and childcare, when you put those three things together, you find that overall men and women have achieved this great level of ee quality th equality that no one knows because the stereotys are prevalent that a lot of people still believe them and make decisions based on that. look, this tl is so much depressing news in politics. you and i got celebrate something now. on father's day we can say men are actually doing a fantastic job trying to do the proverbial it all as caregivers and in the workplace. >> what brought you to this? i understand you had your own personal story of going through the question of taking care of your kids and paternity leave. >> yeah, when i was at cnn, i

was a fact checker. and i discovered the lies about dads. and then i had my own battle. i was under this very strange policy. i was needed at thoem care for my daughter when she was born and policy i was under which is very strange. it was allowing ten paid leaves for anyone except a biological father who had his babe i didn't think old fashioned way. i challenged it internalli, they wouldn't give me an answer. and then ultimately after my daughter was born prematurely and my wife was sick, i still couldn't get it. so my legal battle tloed my book which explains how we got here and we have to change the cultural mindset to understand that men are equally capable of care giving. >> again, we were colleagues at that time just to disclose this topic itself. i was not aware of this necessarily. so that's how you started. and now what we have is we're seeing increasing number not only of dads doing what you did but also single dads. dads that are adopting and being single fathers. >> oh, yeah.

8% in my book i have a figure 8% of american homes are now run by single fathers. and when you look at adoption, sure, more often when it's a single person, it's a woman adopting. more and more men are doing. this we're the beneficiaries of generations of people who fought for gender equality who were fighting this battle saying men and women are equally capable in the workplace and equally capable at home. and what we have to do is make sure that we change everyone's understanding that that is reality. right now dads are very involved. a lot of times the work structures, the lack of paternity leave and lack of paid maternity leave, they're designed to push twoim stay home and push men to stay at work. we need the workplace to catch up with the modern family, the quality that is happening there. >> and those times are changing. josh, thank you, sir. >> y, i want to shoutout to the campaign for great brand i work wit happy father's day to you and the father figures as who will are part of that campaign. happy father's day to you. richard, thank you so much. >> that does it for us this hour an msnbc. can you find me on twitter and

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