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asked him to clear up confusion. is the special prosecution targeting him? >> are you under investigation by the special council? >> mr. president, are you under investigation by the special council? >> that brings us to our word of the day "tweet." it looks pretty clear, i am under investigation, it read, but his attorneys are saying no, i'm not. he tried to make his client's case in a media blitz, and the result was more contra decision a -- contradiction and confusion. >> can they do no no no, he is not being investigated. >> you have some of the president's top surrogates expressing concern about the tweets. >> we need to find fout theinve
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find out if there is an investigation. >> this morning our country woke to news of another terrorist attack on the streets of our capital city. the second this month, and every bit as sickenning as those which have come before. >> a driver plowing his van into a group of worshippers. >> in paris, a car plowed into a police truck. we will debrief all of these headlines with our reporters and we begin with the trump administration and that tweet, here is a toe to toe with fox news. >> he iseing investigating for taking the action that the deputy attorney general told him to take. >> you are now saying he is being investigated. >> you just said he is being
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investigated. >> no, i said that -- let me be crystal clear so you completely understand. we have not received nor are we aware of any investigation of the president of the united states. >> sir, you just said two times that he is being investigated. >> let's go right to kristen welker. is it any clearer this morning than it was yesterday? is the president under investigation, would the white house know if he was under investigation? >> this is what we know, the washington post broke the news that robert mueller is investigating president trump for possible obstruction of justice. that has been confirmed by a number of other news outlets including ours. it's not clear that the president would be alerted that he was under investigation.
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that is the main argument he was making over the weekend. he also tried to argue that his tweet is being taken out of congress. that he never meant to confirm it. the bottom line is that the tweet, as you and i have been pointing out, does in fact acknowledge there is an investigation and that underscores why his tweets can be so problematic for him. he is not saying that he should tweet, just that he should back off. they are pointing to the fact that the president and his administration are really trying to under mine and discredit the russia probe. when president trump reiterated his claim that it is a witch hunt if is what kellyanne conway
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echoed on the morning shows. the president is quite frankly stepping on what some of his top advisors say about this. >> i was talking to a long time donald trump ally, someone that has known him for years, always been on his side, he said i don't know why he tweets, no one can tell him to stop, everybody is, and he clearly is not listening. how is the white house reacting to jay's performance from this weekend? >> it is interesting, the white house is effectively going into lock down mode when it comes to any question related to the russia probe. they refer all questions to the outside counsel. they're not responding to the specifics of it per se, but they cast a cloud over the administration and it continues to make it difficult for the president to focus on his agendas a things he wants to
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talk about. these questions loom large, and you know, it is hard for them to clarify their case today, sean spicer is holding what is referred to as a press gaggle. that means it is off camera, and that we can't use the audio from that gaggle. the last time we heard from him from sean spicer is last monday. he said he will cut back on white house press briefings and we're seeing that come to fruition. there are so many pressing questions that reporters have for the white house right now. >> trying to exercise some control of their messaging, i know owe have to get to the gaggle, thank you for showing up, appreciate it, my friend. we also have phil ruk cker and charlie savage. the president was tweeting in response to a washington post
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report, and jay secalo was asked about it over the weekend. he said the president sent out that tweet directly in response to that story with five anonymous unnamed sources. so basically he is just pushing back on the reports or what is going on here, filphil? >> i wish i knew, the "washington post" stands by that report, they are investigating president trump for possible obstruction of justice. it does not mean that the special counsel has found any wrong doing. it doesn't mean they have lae d alleged any criminal activity, it is just all of the issues, like russia's meddling in the election. >> interestingly, on camera jay
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will say the president's tweets are not doing any damage, are not posing any problems for his legal team, is that just him being confidence on camera? i have not heard from a single person that says his tweets are good, that say they are not problematic. >> i think even jay does not believe that part of what he said. i think he agrees with the broader arguments that firing jim comey cannot be obstruction of justice. i don't think that is what bob mueller is looking at. the probe that he was falling over himself, it was not the result of any communication for the white house, but just the president responding to the washington post report.
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the family around him are telling him it is foolish to do so, and he thinks he got into office doing it his way and there is no reason to stop now, on camera he is telling the president what he wants to hear which is keep tweeting, you're a historic tweeter. >> so officials and staff are not going on camera as we're seeing today to push the president's judge or to talk about the investigation, but we're hearing from judonald trump's allies. let's listen to how he is going after all of this news that is flying around technically he cannot obstruct justice. he wants to fire the fbi director, he just has to fire him. >> didn't he try to impeach
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president clinton for obstructing justice? >> i don't know, and i'm not a lawyer, i can't assess what is and is not possible here. there is clearly a political game going on, and he is trying to forcefully defend the president, he is also in the news because he is trying to sell a book. i don't know the argue there. they are standing behind president trump and offering similar defenses, it is sort of a political gain here. >> excuse the broad question, but what's the mood in washington right now? >> we're all riveted to this issue, and those of us that care about it there is no oxygen in the room to look at those things. you would think watching american television and reading
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american newspapers that this is the only issue in the world. now you wonder and it looks like it is settling in for a state of continual session. >> thank you guys for being with me on this monday. >> now to europe where authorities are dealing with two new attacks. they say a vehicle rams into a police truck on the chachs-el champselysees. it halved just after another terror attack in the uk. police are calling it an attack on muslims. they say a van slammed into worshippers that just left a mosque after prayers.
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eyewitnesss were able to pull the driver from the van and hold him until police arrived. >> i saw him waving his hand, and he -- it is not like -- >> he was not. >> no, he was like yes, i did it, waving his hand. >> keir simmons is in london, and joining us is former counter terrorism analyst at the center for cyber and homeland security. >> the male is now being held under terrorism laws here in the u.k. he is being held, and they're
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saying that the van that the suspect was driving, and driving into a group of people that just level evening prayers at the mosque. it appears he was trying to help a man that prior to the attack collapsed, and the good samaritans, and the police are saying that that this is as sickenning as any attack as we have seen. >> what are we hearing that the attacker said? >> there was some witness accounts. there was a group that held on to him and got the police vehicle, the police to come arrest him, he was apparently saying that he was deliberately targeting muslims and saying i
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want to kill you and i want you to kill me. thankfully what happened is the group attempted him from others -- those that attempted to carry out street justice there and then, and waited until the police arrived and for him to be arrested. so a pretty stunning story in the face of this outrage. >> so at the very least, it is a revenge attack? >> it seems that way, we don't want to discount that because we don't know much about him, a larger issue here is that using vehicles is now something that a lot of organizations, isis, al qaeda, and other groups try to do to affect terrorist attacks. you saw it in nice, london, and other places.
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the israeli ministry of foreign affairs says this happens several times a year in israel. it is a low cost way to commit attacks. >> i want to put up your tweet this morning, has donald trump tweeted about the london attack. what about the girl in virginia murdered outside of her mosque? not yet? he tweets pretty quickly after terror attacks for the most part, but she noticeably silent or slow to react when those targets are muslims. it happened in canada the portland attack, from a few weeks ago, break your thinking down for snus. >> -- for us? >> i'm surprised anyone is looking at my twitter feed. we have seen two separate attacks against completely
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innocent muslims on the holy month of ramadan. you saw it here in virginia. we are beginning to see a pattern of antimuslim bias and violence at home and abroad. and i'm concerned that the president of the united states, who is so quick to condemn violence and terror attacks. innocent members of a religious state that should be protected during this time. >> guys, thank you very much. >> next, new threats from the kremlin, what russia is vowing to do to u.s. jets over syria. beyond is a natural pet food
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the u.s. navy has now identified the seven sailors involved in a collision involving the uss fitzgerald. the youngest was just 19 years old. they were found in flooded sleeping quarters. it guided with a container ship off of the coast of japan on saturday. the death toll could have been higher if not for the efforts of the surviving crew who sealed off compartments and kept the ship from sinking. investigators are still trying to figure out how the two ships
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collided. new tensions between the united states and russia in syria. they say that will now treat aircraft flying over syria as potential targets. it comes after they shot down a syrian fighter jet. joining us now to take about this is hans nichols. hans, let's start with you, how serious is this, have we heard anything like this from the russians before? >> serious is exactly the word that i have heard from several officials in the last few minutes, this is a new phase in a very complicated project.
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working with coalition jobs, and that is one of the reasons you have -- they have coalition flights here, tell us where your flights are going to do. the russians get the syrian plane out there. earlier today, he said it was a goal on keeping it open early for that deconfliction line. >> the russian federation, they are communicating, a diplom
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diplomatical diplomatically, they have indicated their purpose in syria. we'll see if it is coming true. there is two f-18 jets in the air, and then they do a head butt, flying on top of this jet, dropping flares. they feel like they gave them plenty of warning. when it dropped a bomb close to the plane. >> colonel jack, why is the river so troublesome as that being the line. west of that line, more
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effectively is that raqqa is right on the river, and our forces are fighting there, we're sporting them with fire, and here is the problem, if you want to put an air strike in on raqqa, you won't be able to do it without flying west. thus exposing our aircraft. >> we would need to go west to drop a bomb there. what does it say to you if the russians are potentially stopping them. >> i think it will be that we will use the deconfliction line. we have the capability of shooting things down over the r
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horizon. >> and he is determining troop levels in afghanistan to run the various wars that we might be in overseas. how is the pentagon reacting to that, and is it normal for the president to advocate that responsibility. >> he wanted more responsibility, he shaped under the previous administration. that is to be accepted, not have their bosses meddle into them. they have wars that are being prosecuted. i would add this strategy is very much in flux. we just heard about that same event at noon today. saying they hope to have the strategy review done by mid july. senator mccain seemed critical of that time line, thank you. >> thank you, guys, very much. next, it is the final countdown. we go live to georgia where democrats are getting nervous
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has been upgraded from critical to serious condition. he has shown signs of improvement, but doctors expect he needs more surgeries. >> prosecutors vowing to go back to court after bill cosby's trial ended in a deadlocked jury. his lawyer says he has full confidence if it is retried he will be acquitted. >> and 60 people have been killed in forest fires in portugal. >> and $50 million. that is how much money has been put towards the georgia six special election. so who will win? we'll know tomorrow when voters finally go to the polls. democrats that see this as a referendum on president trump -- they believe their candidate will get enough votes to keep
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the seat red. gabe gutierrez is in georgia. >> reporter: yes, voters go to the polls tomorrow, but more than 140,000 people have already headed to the polls for early voting. an event just wrapped up here, a couple stragglers here, what's your name? >> hey, ron nixon, why do you support karn? >> i think she is a strong candidate and i think she is a strong defense. obama care is one of the biggest jokes we have ever created in this country. all of this stuff is being overblown about what she spends on cars and chairs and stuff. she in our district. i think it is crazy that someone not even in our district is running for office. they can't even vote for themselves.
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>> and john ossoff in the last 48 hours or so -- >> how have the last 24 hours been? >> very great. excited about the prospect for fresh leadership. this array, the gridlock, the atmosphere of scandal, there is a real hunger for representation. >> now, both candidates are down playing the national significance. the most expensive house race ever, more than $50 million spent so far. >> by a long shot, gabe gutierrez, appreciate it. thank you very much. >> meanwhile a controversial ad ahead of tomorrow's election is getting a lot of attention. talking about the shooting in
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virginia. >> now the unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting republicans. when will it stop? it won't if john ossoff wins on tuesday. >> joining me now is rick wilson and jess mcintosh. both candidates have strongly condemned that ad, we also have in a gop chair of a neighboring district telling us i think the shooting will win the election for us. rick, what in the world is going on down there? >> you know i made some pretty controversial ads in my time, but i have tried to avoid ads that could blow up in the candidates face. if i was an incredibly crafty democrat i would almost make that to make the republicans look bad. certainly a lot of folks have been trying to come together and
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have a voice of unity about the unacceptability of political violence. that is trying to ratchet that up to a boiling point. >> it is just so gross ly pessimistic. jess, this is a red district, they're neck and neck right now, he is leading in the margin of error. we're hearing a lot of democrats are nervous sdplp we should be this is a red district. the fact that he is in as stiff of competition as he is is a tremendous victory for progressives, but everyone has to get out and vote or it doesn't matter. this is a day to freak out, go to the polls, and make sure everyone else has always. >> i think people are missing the larger point about this race. it is not necessarily can
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democrats compete in differe different -- but it is following a pattern. if progressives can fix this problem that we have where we don't vote, we only focus on the ball game. that is what i'm looking at tomorrow. if turnout is unprecedented. >> so if democrats pull this off, what will it mean on capitol hill? >> look, i think if they manage to pull it off it is a signal for a lot of races, particularly in 2018, and swing districts and house races that the cautionary problem of association with trump as become one they will have to face up to.
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in fairness, early voting turnout has been high. the amount of money that has been spent here on both sides has -- the republicans are not going to have 40 or 50 congressional races for 30 or $40 million. the lesson learned from this, it will be questionable note. it is way too close to call, and all of the models if you look at the 2016 model, she wins, if you look at some of the off year models -- >> we know what relying on polls will do to you after that last general election campaign. after this where will democrats focus?
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>> i think if we can come out with a win, we can focus on more red states that we can. i think it is about turnout how many mans, how many states th that -- i think we're looking at the rust bullet, the cities, and elsewhere. >> rick illinois, appreciate it as well, thanks, guys. >> today on deadline white house, john ossoff will join us at 4:00 eastern on msnbc. next, shopping for a defense. jared kushner looking for a new legal time to represent him in the russia investigation. is that signaling trouble head?
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house. it is the first time he spoke publicly since joining the administration and also the beginning of a pretty busy week for kushner. later this week he is going to the middle east to try for peace talks. but behind the scenes, his team is watreaching out to criminal lawyers for representing kushner in the russia investigation. let's go to john wood, and frank montoya jr. john, let's start with you. kushner's team reportedly rushed out to abby lowell, what does that say to you? >> i think, katie, this suggests that he is taking the investigation seriously as he certainly should. at the very least, we know that jared kushner is a witness and a very significant witness for at least a couple reasons. one reason is that he had some significant contacts with russian officials, a second reason is that media reports
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indicate that he was involved in the decision to fire jim comey. i think some of the academies will want to understand why the president fired jim comey and jared kushner can shed some light on that. i think it makes sense for jared kushner who can afford to hire the council and hire someone like abby lowell who is very experienced in these areas. >> where do you think the investigation is going if kushner is lawyering up so heavily? >> i agree with john. he is really taking this seriously, and that is probably a good thing for him. you know, the determination and dedication of bob mueller as prosecutor, as possibilities that this could lead to a grand jury testimony, to possible, i
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mean, reaching out there now, possible indictments. you know, there is also the possibility that he, his testimony plays a role in any future possible impeachment proceedings. so there is a whole realm of things that can be done. first is to get him in the chair and start having interviews. >> one of those interviews is apparently with the senate intel committee where he wl sit down with senators later thi month. given that, what sort of advice will his legal team be giving him, and is there any need to invoke the fifth? >> the most important thing his team should be telling him is to always tell the truth. in so many of these situations, if if they're not involved in the underlying misconduct, there is a lot of legal risk to mistestifying. if you don't know the answer,
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don't say anything. don't speculate. he would have the ability to take the fifth if his testimony could leave d to something that incriminating. i have no reason to think he will take the fifth, and in fact, he plans to fully cooperate. >> how much will they focus on the detail where donald trump was in the white house and he asked staff to leave so he could be alone with jim comey, is that an intense about of focus for them or will it be more his meeting with the head of that russian bank. his meeting with the russian ambassador, or any other potential meetings that may have happened? >> it is hard to know. but i see sort of the lines of questioning being along two lines. the two that you just identified. i think both the congressional
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committees and special council's office will want to know about jared kushner's own interactions with russian government officials, but secondly they will want to know anything that he can tell them about why vim yo vimjvim -- jim comey was fired. so i think the investigator wants to know as much as possible about that. kushner was not in the room, but they will want to know what conversations jared kushner had with the president before, and perhaps more importantly what did the president say about it afterwards. >> and why did he linger if he did in fact linger. former u.s. attorney johnwood, and frank montoya, thank you very much. >> thank you, katie. >> and sean spicer just held an off camera gaggle with reporters at the white house. kristen welker will join us next
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mcconnell is dead serious about having a vote on that legislation before the july 4th recess. msnbc's garret hague joins us from capitol hill. let's begin with the democrats. they're going to hold a talk talk-a-thon tonight. what can they do to block the legislation? >> they don't have options to block it, but they're as aware of mitch mcconnell's deadline and drag their feet as much as possible. tonight the speeches keeping the senate going late and a lot of sort of other little parliamentary tricks along the way. they'll basically block republicans from using unonmous consent to make republicans come and vote on every single little issue that comes up here. they'll push this bill to a committee and talking about other steps they can take to slow the process down even further. but, katie, some internal division over how far they want
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to go and essentially playing into the idea that they're being obstructionists. >> when are we, the american people, going to see this bill and does everyone support mitch mcconnell and this idea to get a vote before july 4th? >> mitch mcconnell says we'll see the vote when it's finished, but not everyone support that. a number of republican snenator some across the spectrum have complained about this process. we heard rand paul joking about wanting to see a copy of it. we heard moderates who are not particularly involved in the process really wanted to see a copy of it. but folks like ted cruz who defended mcconnell said the way this gets done is if it's negotiated out of the public eye. >> garret, nice to see you. back now with an update on the white house. sean spicer briefed the press a short time ago off camera with no audio. let's go to kristen welker who was in that briefing, that gaggle, if you will. kristen, what did we learn?
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>> a couple of different headlines here. first, press secretary sean spicer was asked if the president still has confidence in deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he said the president has confidence in everyone in his administration but also kauvuated that by saying that everyone here does serve at the pleasure of the president. giving a little bit of wiggle room, potentially, for the president to change his mind, whether it be on rod rosenstein or anyone else. he was also asked about those tapes and whether or not they exist. >> tell me about those tapes. >> well, he said that the president could have an announcement about the tapes as early as this week, possibly. so that statement very couched and caveated, as well. then he talked about the fact that the president's top adviser and son-in-law jared kushner traveling to the middle east to continue to try to restart peace talks. of course, that's something that the president started when he traveled to the middle east several weeks ago. obviously, it it comes as mr.
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kushner's increasingly under the spotlight as a part of this broader russia probe with investigators looking intasome of his financial ties. and it comes as we are learning that jared is potentially looking into expanding his own legal team. so, a number of different headlines comingut of the briefing today. i want tao go back to the point that you started. this briefing is off camera and we're not allowed to use the audio recording. the last time we had an on-camera briefing was a week ago. president trump signaled on how he wanted to pull back and it appears that is what we started to see play out in real time. >> let's go for a civics lesson. why is it important to get the white house officials on camera to defend their daily agenda and defend the news that is swirling around them, especially when they have a president that will tweet things out that only add to the confusion about what exactly is dpogoing on in the we house. >> this is the press' chance to ask the press secretary, the
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spokesperson for the president of the united states about the headlines and about the policy matters that impact this white house and impact this administration on behalf of the american public. so, we had this briefing. we got to ask our questions, but, of course, the public was deprived of the chance to see that briefing, to hear it, to listen to it. of course, we are able to report out the headlines as we are discussing here. but, again, the public dozen have the chance to see it unfold in realtime. >> and you do lose the ability to see whether or not they really, you can tell they believe what they're saying, whether or not they stumble on answers and whether or not answers are scripted out beforehand. you just learn a lot from the body language of white house officials when they're trying to defend things or trying to make their points or argue for different policy positions. you just don't get that when you have an off-camera briefing. >> thanks, katie. we will be right back. whoever threw it has to go get it. not me! somebody will get it...
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one more thing before we go, six members of the presidential advisory counsel on hiv and aids have resigned in protest. claiming the trump administration has no strategy to address the epidemic. neither the trump white house nor federal health officials have commented on the recent walkouts. in case you did not know, hiv infections in the u.s. dropped 18% between 2008 and 2014. but as we speak, a little over 1 million people in the u.s. do have hiv and a majority of them
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are in the south. one in seven of them don't even know they have it. that will wrap things up for me this hour. ali velshi picks things up. >> have a good rest of your afternoon and i'll try to pick up where you left off. i'm ali velshi. two terror attacks in europe in the last 24 hours. along champs-elysees. weapons were found in the car and the driver of the car is now dead. that terror incident comes just hours after a van drove into a group of people outside a mosque in london appearing to target muslim worshippers leading ramadan prayers. >> i see him waving his hand and shaking his hand like he's very proud man and like had -- not like a man tha commit -- >> he wasn't horrified. >> he wasn't hor
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