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an d automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected. that's the power of and. . and hello, everyone, i'm richard lui in new york on this estate with you. we will start with the senate republican health care plan. it's in major trouble. the bill would fail if the vote were held today. five republican senator versus gone on record as opposing it. you see them right there. and there could be two or three more who feel the same. leader mitch mcconnell can only afford two defections. >> i'm telling you right now, i cannot support a piece of lemslation that takes insurance away from tens of millions of americans and hundreds of thousands of nevadaens. >> heller opposes the deep cuts
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to medicaid specifically. the bill would cut health care subsidys to middle income americans while cutting taxes on the wealthiest people in the country. meanwhile, on an interview with "fox and friends" on sunday, president trump blasted democrats for fought doing more to help replace obamacare. >> it's doing just fine. it's going to be a good bill. we have to remember obamacare is dead as a doornail. it's a failure. but it would so great if the democrats and republicans can get together, wrap their arms around it and come up with something that everybody is happy with it. it's so easy. but we won't get one democrat vote. not one. >> health care is not the only thing on the president's mindsh russia is never too far away. in the wake of the washington post report friday, detailing the cia's adestaneement that vladimir putin was directly involved in russia's meddling in last year's election to help hillary clinton, president trump is now questioning why president
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obama did not stop that. >> i just we heard today for the first time that obama knew about russia a long time before the election and he did nothing about it. but nobody wants to talk about this. if he had the information, why didn't he do something about it? he should have done something about it. >> so was president trump agreeing that meddling happened from russia? the first time we may have we heard from that. nbc kelly o'donnell following both story lines. she's at the white house. we'll start with health care t. question might be how involved is the president as we seen if previous administrations, they made those calls to rally the troops to get it through? >> reporter: well the president is someone that has persuasive capabilities with members of his own party. sources say he is making calls, he is reaching out, but he's doing this at a little bit more of an arm's length approach than what we saw when the house bill was kind of up and down and feed some presidential nudging. in part, there are many more house members and there are many
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more people in the house republican conference, who have districts where he is particularly popular and they were trying to leverage that. now, we're talking state wide office older the senators, there are 52 republicans and the president is trying to help but really the white house is letting mitch mcconnell and his team lead the way on strategy t. big thing they are waiting for is monday it's expected the congressional budget office, which puts a price on legislation, talks about the implications of what a bill would do, that can be a very important part of seeing where this goes. how costly, what pitfalls are involved in that. we expect the bill will happen this week. you mentioned five republicans, so far, that's a big gap to close for this white house and for rich mcconnell. >> before we get to russia. you have been on the hill for many a year. you've seen these votes go through before. this number of five right now,
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is it too early to say it's a solid five and we have what a whole week ahead of us, potentially? >> reporter: yeah, these are five senators who have publicly made their legislations known. they said they'd like to get to yes so that's significant, too, that suggests there is room for potential dpoegs and ongoing conversations. when these things come to sort of a head this week with getting the final draft bill and ten doing the vote, there will be lots of ups and downs, so we soul expect that over the next week. no one is saying it's a sure thing, but it's not a dead bill either. it's somewhere in between, richard. >> it could have happened before. let's get to russia now and that washington post article there, what is the white house saying? >> reporter: well, the white house is not talking about that article specifically that delves into the backgrounds-of-what the white house under the obama administration knew. but the president is suggesting that he has learned from this
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article about president obama having specific warnings about russian meddling during the 2016 election when he was in office and the president currently raising some complaints about that. of course, the obama era, they had their own concerns about not wanting to tip the scales in the election and trying to respond to russia. there are questions to be di seconded about what they did and if it was enough or not enough. but the president is talking about this now and it is different because he seems to be implicit in that, acknowledging that russia was responsible and in an interview with mike pompeo the cia director, he talks about where things stand with his relationship with president trump when it comes to issues leak russia and what they may have done. >> the intelligence committee has said that this election was meddled with by the russians in a way that is frankly not particularly original. they have been doing this an awfully long time. we are decades into the russians
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trying to under mine american democracy. in some ways there is no news, it certainly puts a heightened emphasis on our ability to physical out how to stop them. >> reporter: so mike pompeo saying this isn't a new tactic, but certainly one they are aware of. many lawmakers are concerned about the impact potentially in the next few elections, if hacking or interference is not dealt with in a sharp way. we are looking forward to when president trump goes to the g-20 conference in germany. vladimir putin will be there, too, it is possible they will have their first meeting since president trump the took the white house. the new york post bureau chief and a reuters healthcare reporter. thank you both for being here. i'll start with you, what we're looking for this week early on the cbo score, right? then they will vote on it. is there any thought right now any arms have been put around where that might ends up?
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because the house bill as you know scored 23 million people losing health care over ten years. >> i think a lot of republican senators are looking ahead to next week, eager to see what the cbo score will be, what changes will take place next week to the health care bill. we know not only are there five republican senators who expressed their doubts and who have publicly criticized this bill and what it does, but there are also a number of moderate senators who could come out in opposition to the bill if there are conservative changes next week. so i think in reaction to that cbo score, that will be something we are looking for. >> zbab by is intimating. after the scoring comes out, those numbers could go down further as some have estimated, depending on what those changes may be as they do the tweaking. >> i think it's important to know the bill we saw thursday is the start and there will be days
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of negotiations to win these as far as. so we're expecting a cbo score off this draft bill we saw thursday early next week, it's like ily, almost certain, the bill is going to change as mitch mcconnell will win some of those holdouts. so we may not have a cbo score that tells us the impact of the final piece of lemslation that's voted on. >> gabby, as you look at the number of senators, five as of this saturday, reportedly, there could be two or three more on thege at the moment. do you know what they're asking for, what are they negotiating? who will not accept any negotiations? just say no to it? >> i know there are a number of moderate republican senators who have concerns about the impact this bill would have on abortion coverage and de-funding planned parenthood. >> that includes susan collins from maine and, you know, i think a lot of them are looking to see. >> murkowski.
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>> reporter: murkowski, right. they are looking to see what changes took place, what adjustments are made. if the adjustments that are made to this bill lead them to come out in open six to it. i mean, that itself the big question here. that's certainly something we saw constantly during the health care process in the house. this comes back and forth between the freedom caucus and the tuesday group. constant negotiations, talking about what could be changed but without jeopardizing the other ideological side of the argument. so i think that that's certainly a thing that's going to play out this coming week in the senate. and it's really going to be a quick time line. i know that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell wants to force a vote on this by thursday before the senate goes into recess for the july 4th holiday. it's going to be an interesting week, definitely a long one. >> it will be a long one. it could be they don't get it done in time. as a health care reporter, what are we missing in this story
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line that you are watching? >> well, i think it's important to note while this bill makes changes to the affordable care act. really it's a medicaid bill. it will fundamentally restructure the medicaid program, which about 70 million people in the u.s. rely on. and the cuts in medicaid are pushed out far enough so that president donald trump doesn't have to run when the cuts are enacted and senators who serve six-year terms won't have to run when these deep cuts are enacted. and there is a lot of flexibility in the bill released on thursday for concessions to moderates and conservatives, where they can go back to their constituents and say i got us a win, this bill will be better because of what i negotiated. i think it will be critical to watch them unfold over the next couple of days to see who is around and the pd and they can vote for it. we have a couple days for the vote a. lot can change between now and then. they could all come together
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very quickly. >> thank you both. >> thank you. >> all right. now if the senate bill passes, the house and senate would have to reconcile their differences for president trump's sick. i will bring from the democratic congressman of rhode island. you may be a part of that conversation here, representative. no doubt you want to be. the question that's been asked of democrats, are they ready for a true compromise that is taking care of those who are very much in need of health care or is this posed on a political win? which is that for you? >> well, i would love to be a part of the conversation to make the affordable care act better. democrats have been a part of the conversation, case in point. the latest version of trumpcare is that in the senate right now was negotiated, it developed in secret. so we are now just still reading through the bill and totally
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understanding the bill and what we see we don't like because it's a bill that will basically proportionally affect poor people and sick people while it will be a major win and a major tax wendfall for wealthy people. so i would love to be a part of the conversation to make affordable care better. what we see if he can heck isn't it. >> during the fight as you we heard, one of your rhode island colleagues, david cicilline quote tens of millions of people will die if this senate republican bill is passed. do you know what evidence he and others have said on your side of the aisle are looking at when they're citing these numbers? >> yeah. yeah. case in point t. whole premise of the affordable care act is to focus on central health benefit, early preventative care so that you finds problems early before they become those catastrophic diseases or illnesses that are
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either difficult, expensive or impossible to treat. so my colleague is exactly right, that there are thousands of people that will die if either they no longer have health care coverage and they don't go to see a doctor until it's too late or if they just can't afford the coverage, it's not provided, they don't get the health care coverage or if they have a health plan that doesn't cover those things, the essential health benefits that don't require pre screening for breath cancer or colon cancer caught early you can make a difference in treating or curing. >> you've you've seen some of the "that make them better, kathleen sebelius was saying, insurance companies are starting to leave certain states and the program altogether. what will you do to turn that important part around?
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>> yeah, great question. certainly, one of the reasons why the insurers may be leaving the market is this reinsurance program to limit insurance companies losses in particular, erie, medical costs are particularly high. those are expiring in 2016. so if your insurer in the area where have you predominantly very sick people, you don't know what your loss are and you are very likely very much concern those people that provide health insurance, whether they can afford to go belly up. the insurance market, it was a temporary program, that we make that permanent. again, there has to be cost sharing between the government, between the insurance companies and the insured so that we promote competition. we are multiple insurers in markets. they can limit their losses,
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here providing multiple plans for people to choose from, including, by the way, it would great to have a public option that people could choose from, so that's something we can certainly promote competition. >> one-word answer, yes or no, the senate health care bill from the republicans is going to make it through? >> again, too early to tell. >> too early to tell? >> i'm glad you see that people are being thoughtful about this. they don't like what they see when they talk about guting medicaid coverage and the poor and a number of other things. there are things we can do to impro tf aca, but guting sit not the right path. trump carumpcare is not the ans >> thank you so much, sir. you have a good weekend. >> thank you very much, you too. >> all right, the democratic party still searching for a voice to lead the party into the future. some think it may be time for
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democrats to bring in new or younger leadership.
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nancy pelosi was a great speaker. she is a great leader, but her time has come and gone, yes, slows a a great fundraiser, but the.we are raising through her leadership is not helping us win elections then we have to have this difficult conversation now. >> calls for the removal of house minority leader nancy pelosi by her own party after democrats lose the hotly contested race for the vacated congressional seat in georgia. now the victory by republican karen handel there and other special election losses by democrats are seen as a referendum on the political state of the nation. some are ask figure it's time for a changing of the guard,
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don't expect the california congressman that led the democrats in 2002, rather, including four years as speaker to go quietly into the night. >> i feel very confident in the support that i have. we are paving the way for a new generation of leadership. again, i respect any opinion that members have, but my decision about how long i stay is not up to them. but i think i'm worth the trouble, quite frankly. i love the fray. >> joining me now via skype is the kentucky secretary of state and howard dean msnbc contributor and former vermont governor. thank you both for being here on this saturday with me. and i'll start with you, if i may, on this, allison, as we look at this. your thought on whether nancy pelosi needs to step aside or not? are these first four special
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election that no one won are indications there is some hangover with the leader? >> well, i think the republicans are attacking, they're worried, there will always business a villain that the republicans try to make. before fancy pelosi, it was harry reid, tom daschle. the clintons, obama him personally, i don't want the republicans picking our leadership and backing down would send to pe the wrong message. i think instead of running, it's time we stands up and fight and importantly instead of focusing on who the republicans want to make the villain, let's focus on what actually makes a difference. that's the voters showing up at the poll and personally i would rather see us be talking about the repeal of the affordable care act, what it means, the harmful impact it will have for hundreds of thousands in couple and my state and millions across this nation. >> zpof, what were you taking away from that special election if georgia as they were putting out the leader's name in their attack ads against os jaufd and how much of a track, how much
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percentage points would you say that may have added to hand em's win? >> reporter: first of all, let me say i agree with allison in general, we don't want to agree with that and nancy has been a great speaker. this is mostly inside the beltway hand winging so. so what happened is we went in, 24 plus republican areas and we lost four races by four, five, six points. that's pretty good. so, you know, you don't start with your great asset in the legislature. if we win the majority, pelosi will be a fantastic speaker. she's been the best speaker of either party since tip o'neill. i think this is overwrought. i think it's ridiculous and inside the beltway nonsense. >> governor, what did you take about that special election? what was the learning opportunity? >> the learning opportunity is republicans always stick
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together at the end and turned out. if we came this close, we ought to be able to win that easily 50 seats in the next race, that will put us in the majority. >> allison, what was your take away? >> i think the governor is exactly right. he points out that there are 71 congressional seats that will be up in 2018 that are more competitive than the georgia six race. we only need as democrats 24. personally, when i look at kansas and montana, south carolina and georgia, those were the free spots on the bingo card for republicans and we made them spend millions of dollars to retain those seats that they should have been easily able to win and the margins show that they're struggling. they're struggling because their leader, president trump is finding governing a little bit complicated and unable to deliver on the promises he made to the american people. >> so allison, do you believe there is enough money at this current pace, you look the races in 2018 in terms of that balance of power in congress and where
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the opportunity is for democrats t. question is, is this amount of money needed to take over the house potentially? >> i'm always one to say there is too much money in politics. one a united states senate race that was over $100 million. there is more we should be doing and money in politics has the unintend effects of suppressing the vote. what we saw with these special election, take, for instance, georgia. you had $50 million especially in a three month time span being spent. republican u republicans simply don't have that war chest or the capability to keep up with 71-plus competitive seats that will be up in 2018. >> to have, who is the asymmetric candidate you will be looking for to leave the republican party? >> we den know yet. there will be a huge number, a potential nominees coming into 2020. >> that is the real leader of the party. let me say one thing about
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generational change. i deeply believe we need generational strepgth. i think to make nancy pelosi is a mistake. they're not democrats the real backbone of the democratic party are young people who voted 58% for hillary clinton, elected barack obama twice. groups like flipable, run for something, indivisible. they're organizing the daylights of all of these district. that's where the real strength is. these candidates needs to come from the grass roots up, fought be selected by washington. >> thank you. >> thank you. all right, coming up, more reaction on the republican health care bill. they are holding a town hall and health clinic with voters in maryland today. we'll go there.
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>>. >> the republican party is fighting it's own ranks against the senate health care bill.
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five gop senators are openly publicly saying this present version and more may born. if more than two republicans oppose the bill, it will not pass. democrats are trying shore up the opposition earlier today. chris van holland spoke at a town hall. >> we're bringing people together and asking them to reach out to their friends and neighbors by phone, over social media, texting, no matter what, in other states and asking tear friends and relatives to contact their republican senators. we feed three republican senators to do the right thing by their constituents. not by the party bosses if washingto washington. >> you were sitting right there, we played a little bit. what did we miss in that conversation that you had? >> reporter: i think what led to that response is what are
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democrats going to be doing? he's a democratic senator from maryland. we said, what are democrats going to be doing? republicans may vote on this bill by the end of the week. could they be a part of the amendment process? make this somewhat better? he responds, it was pretty telling, having people in maryland calling places like nevada where senator helder is on the fence, their agenda is to kill this bill. you can hear the applause here, there was 3 00 people here who have come to a democratic town hall event to express concern over where the health care bill will go. the health uninsured rate has gone over 10% six years ago, 300,000. more than 346789,000 now have medicaid coverage that didn't beforehand. that's the concern among the voters here. >> nbc's vaughan hilliard has more. there is more fallout of the
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washington post reveals a cautious response from the obama white house, this after it was learned it was meddling. president trump responded on twitter, criticizing obama for not doing more. we'll explain after this.
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still no sign that the russia flag breathe new life into the story with a report on friday suggesting president obama could have done more to stop russia's meddling in last year's election, the story says he found out about it in early august after a special briefing by the director of special intelligence, it was not until one month later that president obama confronted russian strongman vladimir putin t. post says some house officials, even secretary of state john kerry urged dramatic action by the president. donald trump responded in a post article saying the president was doing nothing to stop the election meddling sooner. now this tweet out just moments ago, saying, quote, since the the obama dministration was told
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way before the 2016 election that the russians were meddling, why no action? focus on them, not t. >> joining us a former cia analyst who now serves a senior policy adviser at the counterextremism project. thank you for joining us, what do you make of his accusation of president obama fought doing enough? i'm alluding to president trump. >>. >> reporter: sure, there is fault on both side. so the obama administration clearly seemed to deliberate for white i quite a while before they took a tepid or moderate response to russian meddling in the election, there was good reason for this, not to justify their slow moving pace on this. they didn't want to be seen as making a political call and interfering with the elevenlths had they done something quite strong, we might be sitting here arguing the obama administration was inadvertently in the election. i agree with the criticism that they did act in a too little
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approach. having said that, it's not like the trump administration came out definitively with strong statements about the hacking. president trump himself has not confirmed or publicly denounced russian hacking. secondly, it's not like the trump administration has taken a strong diplomatic response if terms of sanctions or what not. now president trump is president, it's up to him to tick a reasons. the russians will be back in the next election. this problem is not going away. >> depending on your ci amilitary analyst hat for a second, up get this information. you say, hey, look, this is happening. would your suggestion, your white paper, whatever that memo is, would it but need to do something now regardless of political ramifications? >> reporter: my argument would be that you do. having said that the united states cyber security policy is very early stage as we haven't had a lot of policies on the
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books. this is a realm of policies just developing as cyber attacks are more increasing. so the obama administration, you know, they faced the russia cyber hack at the end of tear term. there was no precedent for this. there was no u.s. policy on the books about what to do if this were to occur. i get some sort of sympathetic to their ability to formulate a response. having said that you feed to have a firm response, not just to punish the russians for this type of behavior, but to deter the russians from taking this type of behavior again so they know there is going to be a strong and firm response from the united states, whether that's an overt response in economic sanction osar a covert response, which we may or may not know is actually happening. >> what we understand is this is a cyber counterresponse it was a put into place once it was decided. what do you know about this cyber response coming from the united states and can it be stopped by this administration? >> reporter: well, in terms of
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the response on the russians the obama administration issued a diplomatic response and economic sanctions response. there may have been covert responses at play t. dministration may or may not. obama dministration may or may fought speak about those, president trump administration may or may not speak object that, at least until after the fact. i think it's important to have overt measures in place. you want other countries and non-state actors to see there is punishment. so you want the response to be public because the russians aren't the only once to have hacking capability for systems of candidates and election systems. they might have a lot of focus on this issue. they're not the only ones that can do it. >> what is good for the goose is good for the gander. president trump it appears says he does believe there was russian meddleing, to move from one category to the other if a matter of a day without much major announcement to that is
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fairly interesting in itself. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> you bet. >> coming up, we live into the senate health care bill, what it means for all americans, if it does pass and aarp out in force to oppose the health care bill. we'll get their thoughts. ♪ ♪ isaac hou has mastered gravity defying moves to amaze his audience. great show. here you go.
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house bill would have made tremendous cuts to medicaid. the senate bill, mile those cuts could be more gradual, every dollar that goes away is going to get paid up by people getting fewer benefits by states cutting payments to providers, by state raising taxes, by states cutting spending elsewhere. that's one reason that quite a few governors, including republicans like john kasich have been concerned about this bill. >> what about private insurers and subsidies, what are you finding in that? >>. >> reporter: there are some differences in the house and senate. both have subsidies currently under obamacare. they're structured differently. the house bill would have given people a fixed amount to try insurance. the senate bill, however, scales them up on income, for lower income people, you could get more help purchasing insurance. >> that insurance could be less generous, it's aimed at plans with higher deductibles, there
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are significant differences. >> you don't want to bring up a number here, some research from the kaiser family foundation that shows under obam care people with incomes up to 50% of poverty pay an average deductible of 255. under the senate bill, it would be over 6,000 that seems like a huge increase, appears. >> reporter: it's pretty striking, richard, it's actually fairly easy to explain where this happened. on the one hand, president trump has been saying over and over again, for months, that the goal of any bill is to lower deductibles, but the senate bill quite deliberately raises them for millions of people, for two mane reasons. one, it provides subsidies that encourage people the take plans that have a higher deductible than the ones obamacare pushes them towards, they would be around $6,000 for individuals or $12,000 for families, but the second reason is it eliminates a series of subsidies that go to
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insurers in order to lower out-of-pock costs. you put those two together, people can see thousands more deductibles the they fall into those categories? thank you, sir. the aarp that claims the membership of 38 million americans, older americans, came out in opposition of the bill. let's go to the legislative policy director. it's very clear from your seat and where you sit at aarp that you don't like this. where would you start in terms of explaining what you'd like to see physical ord changed? >> well, there are a number of fundamental flaws with this bill. one we have been calling the age tax, people that are older have to pay much more for the health insurance. they have pay much more higher deductibles. i provisions medicare funding and, of course, there are these huge cuts in medicaid, which will threaten the millions of seniors and older adults who
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rely on the program for their bake health care services. >> how are you approaching your criticism to try to affect a vote when you are lobbying on the hill? >> well, we have been using all the tools we have raible to us. we had a big fly-if day on capitol hill just a couple weeks ago, where we had over 300 meetings with congressional offices. we have been doing meetings back homet the states, we have been doing tv, radio, grass roots, using social media. >> are they listening? >> hopefully they're hearing us. we don't think enough progress was made in the senate bill versus what passed in the house, obviously, we're not being we heard enough with the problems on this bill. at least not to get own of them fixed. >> who do have you alongside you? there were many logos right now? >> remarkably, pretty much every health care group, every hospital organization, every doctor organization, every patient organization, all opposes this bill.
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we've done a number of events with these groups around the country. we have one coming up next tuesday in colorado. everybody involved in health care opposes with this bill because it's bad for costs and bad for coverage? what are members saying to you about this? >> well, our members for quite a long time now have been concerned about this fundamental am issue about the costs of their health care, what are the premiums that i are bay paying, what deductibles are they pay something we see nothing in this bill that will address any of those issues ven those issues. this bill gives a $25 billion tax break to the drug industry, without doing anything to deal with the cost of prescription drugs. so we see this bill going in the exact opposite direction of the problems we hear from our members. >> david, thank you so much from aarp. >> thank you. all right, next, new research in the fight against alzheimer's, what can be done early on to slow down the
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effects of 'that disease, we will talk with ambassador peter gallagher. alzheimer's has l
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mysterious disease. that not only affects patients but has a lasting impact on families, friends and care-giver. and new data out this month shows two out of three care-givers felt isolated or alone and more than four in five would have liked more help. so far there is no evidence on how to prevent the disease. but there is promising research that drugs may be able to cut down the brain clogging plaques that are a trademark of alzheimer's. however there is still no conclusive evidence that the drugs could actually help symptoms or prevent the disease. there is some hope. a panel of experts looked at seven years of evidence and this week they released a guide of lifestyle changes that may delay the onset. some of the recommendations include cognitive training like memory improvement techniques or pneumonic techniques and
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controlling blood pressure, since high blood pressure damages delicate blood vessels in the brain and exercise, like brisk walks and try to avoid the tendency to sit down and don't watch endless tv for hours at a time. and joining me now, peter gallagher. thanks for being here with us. i've heard your story before and it is very true to your heart. share why this is so personal to you. >> well, my mother had alzheimer's for almost 20 years. and so we're -- and my grandmother before her had alzheimer's. and my mother was her single care-giver. and so i saw the devastating effect that being burdened with the task of taking care of a person with alzheimer's has. and then when my mother herself got it and lived with it for 20 years, i saw the devastating effect alzheimer's has on a
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family, because my mother happened to be the navigator, the sort of the navigator of our family and once she started to lose her faculties, as often happens in alzheimer's families, the family itself gets torn apart. so it is june and it is alzheimer's and brain awareness month so it is good time to be talking about all of these things. >> what did you do when you realized you had to become a care-giver? >> well, alzheimer's is excellent at making people feel powerless. and it was 92 that my mother first became obvious that she had alzheimer's. and the alzheimer's association was very important because at that point it was the only place to turn. and it still is the best place to turn. because it is an awesome, awesome task. and by 2050 there will be 15
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million people with alzheimer's. at the moment there are about 5,000,015 million people are taking care take -- and 15 million people are taking care of them and the cost is enormous. and i'm watching the show with the health care bill, if this bill becomes law, it could have really catastrophic effects on families and on the nation, as the baby boomer ages and so many more have alzheimer's. >> one of the largest groups that you know, when you look at care-givers, alzheimer's not with standing here millennials, and you were talking about who might be taking care of them. >> right. >> you heard the care giving numbers there from the alzheimer's association. do you agree with that? do you agree with what they're finding? >> yes. i mean, if you are talking about -- well it is -- >> isolation -- >> yes. it is a real problem. because there is no road map. as exciting as it is, i got --
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alzheimer's still can't be cured. yet it is not immune to fake news. i got an e-mail today that if i avoid certain oils i could avoid alzheimer's. it is curious that there is research doing done but there is no cure. it is the sixth leading cause of death in the country and the only one that can't be prevented or cured. so there is a great world of mystery about how to proceed, about what we could look forward to and as i say, the alzheimer's association gives you opportunities and even scripts, ideas of how to speak to your family. more communication has to take place between people when they are diagnosed and the families. i know, richard, you have a very compelling story yourself. gow back and forth and take care of your dad every weekend. and so there is nothing i could say to you that you wouldn't understand. we were lucky in that my brother and sister were able to move my family -- my mother and father
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to their hometown and we were particularly lucky that we found an individual who was able to take beautiful care of our mother and we were able to afford it. so i can't imagine the devastation if there is less health care available, and the numbers increase and the demands increase, it could be crippling because as you know, there is no time to do anything else when you are taking care of somebody with alzheimer's. >> it is difficult. and peter, as you've been doing this for so long as ambassador for the alzheimer's association, when you only have that ten seconds to tell somebody about this, what do you say to them, as we finish up here? >> hang in there. they're are going to be golden moments. it will be devastating and pick up the phone and call alzheimer's association. and if no one in your family yet has alzheimer's, or you don't know anybody. pick up the phone and call the alzheimer's association and go on a walk or call your lawmakers and urge them to be clear-eyed and clear thinking with regards
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to the demands that alzheimer's is going to place on our nation. >> actor peter gallagher and so much more. thank you, sir, i appreciate it. >> thank you, richard. best to you and your family. >> thank you, sir. and you too. that wraps it up this hour. i'm richard lui. we'll have much more on the health care battle and the topic of russia. stick around. er to bring you more ways to help reduce calories from sugar. with more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all, smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and signs reminding everyone to think balance before choosing their beverages. we know you care about reducing the sugar in your family's diet, and we're working to support your efforts. more beverage choices. smaller portions. less sugar. balanceus.org. at crowne plaza we know business travel isn't just business. there's this. 'a bit of this. why not? your hotel should make it easy to do all the things you do.
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well next week the future of health care in america is on the line. majority leader mitch mcconnell planning to try to hold a vote on the new senate health care bill before the july fourth recess, on a thursday it is expected. right now if he were to take the votes, it would fail because of that. five republicans openly saying no. and that is before the congressional budget office even releases its score. possibly as early as monday. now president trump made the case for passage in his weekly address. take a listen. >> millions of familie