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by one two or or three points. they'll continue to push these programs and super pac money. i think they'll do it one day at a time and package it it if they can. >> that's "all in" for this evening. tonight on russia, president trump blames obama and takes a victory lap as the supreme court takes action on the travel ban. two former white house chiefs of staff from both parties here with us tonight. plus why the dems were talking late again in the senate. the word today that the new health care bill would dump 22 million more from insurance. what the senate vote might look like. and the veteran of the cia is here to show us what the danger of what the president reveals on twitter. "the 11th hour" begins now. well abbas we start a new
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week good evening once again from nbc news headquarters here in new york, day 158 of the trump administration. and as the russia investigations on the hill and at doj roll on tonight we learn more about who the feds are talking to. the "washington post" was first to report tonight that former trump campaign adviser carter page has now been questioned by fbi agents over and over again on russia. page confirmed he was interviewed in a statement to nbc news. sources tell the post" page was questioned the at least five times in the month of march total attention around 10 hours of q and a process eyeball meanwhile even with the specter of investigations into this white house on russia, the associated press reports, president trump is quote egoer to meet with vladimir, putin with full dplomic bells and kwhiftles when both men are in germany for a summit next month. the ap reports that's creating big divisions within team trump
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as some peel it best to keep the two men as far apart as possible, given the near daily news of bad headlines on russia for this white house. the president generated some headlines of his own this morning using his cell phone. it was on twitter before 9:00 a.m. . and the news was this. he finally tacitly admitted russian hacking of our election but only by way of blaming his predecessor. he said this, quote, president obama did nothing about russia because he expected clinton would win. he didn't choke. he colluded or obstructed." repeating again president obama did nothing about russian meddling. and after months, quote, they have zero tapes of trump people colluding. there is no collusion and no obstruction. as you might imagine, it came up at today's white house briefing. you can hear sean spicer answer it. we just can't show you, because cameras weren't allowed to be turned on during the briefing.
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thankfully we were allowed to broadcast audio of what sean spicer a government employees said about our government today. but not live audio, only on a tape delayed basis. here it is. >> what evidence does he have this president obama was colluding or obstructing. >> well, again it comes back to this idea that if -- thaefr been very clear they've been playing the card about blaming trump and russia yet at the same time they were the ones who according to this report knew about it and didn't take any action. the question is were they -- if they didn't take any action, does that make them compliment. >> was there an element of hypocrisy, sean because this was president trump on the russia if you're listening i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mieltly by it. how can he accuse president obama of obstructing when he was egging russia on. >> he was joking at the time. >> at this point let's bring in our starting panel. nbc news chev white house
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correspondent just off the phone with her sources hallie jackson. let white house reporter for the "wall street journal." eli stokols. here in new york white house reporter for the associated press. jonathan le mere appear hallie i'll begin with you because of a piece of paper that came out of the white house communication shop tonight. and, again, germane probably this is a white house that ceased communicating with us at least on television and ceased communicating with the american people for now that way. statement from the press secretary, it reads, the united states has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians including innocent children. the activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its april 4th, 2017, chemical weapons attack. as we have previously stated, the united states is in syria to eliminate the islamic state of iraq in syria.
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however if mr. assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons he and his military will pay a heavy price. i imagine, hallie there is much scrambling going on to figure oh out how the back story to something like this gets issue sfwlood what is the deal with this tonight brey zbloon let me share a couple of pieces in the last half hour 40 minutes since the statement came out let me see broadly the white house appears to want the statement to speak for itself being tight lipped about it, fairly tight lipped about the back story on that. i will tell you one source familiar with the thinking behind this statement says it is clearly a warning shot saying the words that you just read say a lot. another administration source when i asked if this was an indication that some kind of an attack may have been imminent -- right and how imminent did the white house think it was sort of pointed it out wouldn't this wouldn't have been press released if this energies did not believe something was imminent adding that if this can deter the behaviors we saw last
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time from the assad regime and the attack referenced in the statement back in april. then lives could be saved. i do think this was fairly unexpected at least into tonight. and we are working on reporting out more on the back story there, brian. you can't help but think about what happened last time we obviously saw activities from the assad regime in april. obviously that strike. it was the first big military action of president trump as commander in chief. i also want to point out nikki hailey is on line. she is talking about this obliquely giving her own kind of warning shot to russia and iran as well. and i point out all of this happens a week before president trump heads overseas and could meet face-to-face with putin. there is a lot at play late into the night again in this administration. >> eli, this is why communications and credibility every day are important on some of the days, especially in light
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of this odd piece of paper. >> right. just sort of came out of left field tonight. i think your point is the right one. this is a white house that has eroded its own credibility over the first five months of in administration. and so we do have to ask tonight, when you get a vague statement about potential attacks that may be imminent, sort of where it's come from, what the white house is doing in terms of putting this out there, why now? just today at the offcamera briefing press secretary sean spicer told us in response to a question about diplomacy that this is not a president who likes to show his cards. this is a president who works quietly behind the scenes. he said that with a straight face. that this president works quietly. but he said he is not telegraphing any moves.
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here tonight you have a statement may be meant on its face as hallie reported as a deterrent to syria. but also it's sort of out of character for a president that doesn't like to telegraph what he is doing in the foreign policy realm or any other area. and you have to wonder whether or not the president, the white house is just sort of trying to put it out there as some sort of a political distraction as well given everything that's going on. >> jonathan, you guys action writ large, the associated press, reporting that he is anxious to sit down with putin and, i assume, there is guidance coming from members of his team that the optics may not be perfectly timed. >> that's exactly right. this is an issue that's divided this white house.
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when it comes to russia the president has ziged when others want to him to zag. what is the reason for this wanting to meet vladimir at the g 20 in germany in early next months? certainly the president has spoken repeatedly he would like to have better relations with russia. perhaps it is a sincere desire. it is also possible this is a president who is stubborn who knows smoke has been surrounding him with russia for many months. and he does not want to seem like he is giving in to that pressure. but these two things happen- this happening now can't help but raise questions. why do this? this seems to be politicly damaging when literally every day there is drip and drab some bit of new some refrlgs with the russia investigation. you now the president face-to-face with vladimir putin who he has expressed admiration for repeatedly. vladimir putin, a kgb -- exkgb, very experienced in these sort of one-on-one diplomatic meetings versus a president who can be unzpind and is certainly inexperienced >> hallie, back up to russia, what people are calling the clear and present danger argument, and that is blame the predecessor if you wish. but we have the next couple of elections lying there vulnerable after consensus.
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>> yes. >> in the intelligence communities that we've been attacked already and they're here to stay perhaps. >> and i'm actually pulling email as we're talking here, scott, that i got from somebody in the administration as well. you're right. the urgent warning coming from officials multiple government officials as well as outside experts, 2018 and 2020 will be here soon and russia will try to do what they did again basically. and there is real concern the trump administration is simply not prepared for that. nbc news, we contacted dozens of state officials all over the country. we contacted everybody in -- all 50 states. 38 of them got back to us. many of whom said they have had
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very little contact with the trump dprgs. some of them were confused about some of the designations like when it comes to critical infrastructure for example, the white house, the administration pushed back and said they've got this election commission, this election fraud commission that is looking into some of this. but remember that was created after president trump made that unfounded claim that millions of people voted illegally. he says without providing evidence to back that up. . they pointed to the cybersecurity move. but the issue is of course what did russia do last time around? they pushed fake news. used disinformation and leaked and hacked embarrassing political emails.
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there is a real question of what can be done to stop this from happening? and is the trump administration doing enough. >> eli what's the deal on no cameras at the briefing? and is it -- how long until someone figure attention out to put it on face time or facebook live or periscope? what is going on? we can't see the briefings or hear them in real time only taped delay. >> press secretary was asked about that today. he gave an honest answer. he said the president is doing making a public stamgt in the rose garden this afternoon with the indian prime minister and sean said we want the president's words to carry the day. i think that's right. i think you have a president who has been sitting back there in the oval office and his private dining room yelling at the tv getting upset, about the things that are said about him.
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intelligence channel to our allies and to the syrians to put them on notice. if this is the only communication that is come out from the white house it's very bizarre. and it does really signal something that might happen and raise expectations in america, not necessarily raising expectations around the world but in america that we're ready to do something when we don't know if something needs to be done. and it also sounds a little bit like if you do something we'll retaliate really hard when if we think they're doing should we do something preemptive so they can't do it. >> and the background of our conversation is in like every utterance from this white house comes from a white house under investigation, a white house under the specter of russia. >> well i'm hoping the white house isn't worried about any of the investigations. they should be focusing on helping the president do his job. and that's the discipline that i think should be at the white house. let the russian investigation take the path it's going to take. everybody working at the white house, unless they were engaged in something that the special counsel is paying attention to,
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they should be focusing on helping the president and let the chips fall where they may in the investigation. >> one more question on the statement, only because it's so unusual. aren't you curious in the chain who signed off on this? where it came from, namesic like mcmaster wab o, mattis and pompeo. >> if they haven't been part of the communications chain hopefully they were part of the message chain even before the communication went out. yes, i can't imagine that there would be a memo like this that hadn't been vetted by the state department, the defense department, the intelligence community, before it was even put on paper. >> you were here in the studio when i was doing our remarks at the top of the broadcast. when you hear -- as we hear every night the president at 8:5 a a.m. said this on twitter tp. it ve versed this it caused this to happen. are you -- do you ever your arms around this quite yet. >> i don't think anybody has their arms around this. look, it's very challenging.
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my simple statement has been for a long time presidents should taste their words about before they spit them out certainly before they tweet them because they have consequence to the world it ds does to the staff and the congressional staff. think about the words you use. don't be impulse every. the second thing is brockry ocys in the washington, d.c. want the to help the president. but if you blind side them or pull the rug out from under them it makes them difficult to know the job they have. it's not constructive even in helping the executive branch meet the responsibilities that the executive branch has to meet. >> i'm going to preview the next segment by way of asking you about health care. it seems to me that whatever emerges -- and i'm curious to know if you think mcconnell has got the votes -- are republicans are now going to own health care. you first and foremost are a
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loyal republican. what's your take on all of this. >> well, first of all, the status quo is not viable. >> right. >> so obamacare as it is right now is not viable. it's not working. the repeal effort was a hollow effort if you didn't have a replacement. and the republicans did not do a good job of developing a case for repeal along with what replacement would look like. but i do think it's important that congress get their act together and pass something so that there is certainty in the marketplace, so that people if the dynamics are going to change they can understand what they have to do with their lives in the marketplace, whether it's a new marketplace or the old marketless it won't go back to which it was because obamacare was not working. and the replacement hasn't been put there. so right now the uncertainty is terrible. it's terrible for people who wonder what health care will be like. and it's terrible for the marketplace when they try to
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design what the marketplace could afford to have. >> a question about mechanics. how does mcconnell get to 50. >> i think he has got to do everything he can just to get something ready to pass and then let the negotiations take place on how to implement it and do what it is. it's not going to be the status quo because the status quo is not viable. >> andy card, a guest in a few scant hours on "morning joe" from the very room here in the nbc news headquarters. . thank you for stopping by our studios tonight. >> thank you. >> when we come back after the first break this senate health care plan loses another big name wavering republican tonight who plans to vote against even bringing it to a vote. that discussion on the other side of this break. >> we may have written a terrible piece of legislation that has nothing to do with improving your health care but we repealed obamacare. .
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>> we may have written a terrible piece of legislation that has nothing to do with improving your health care but we repealed obamacare. . and he is hoping the american people won't notice. >> welcome back to the 11th hour." democratic senate michael bennett of colorado on the floor late tonight calling out senator mitch mcconnell's health care plan. we now have the congressional budget office report, the scoring on exactly how this bill affects actual americans. the experts say by the year 2026, 22 million fewer americans will have insurance if it passes. a lot of asterisks here. but the plan also cuts the national deficit by $321
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billion. as both a candidate and now as president, donald trump has been pretty clear on what he wants on an obamacare replacement plan, what he wanted that accomplish. >> i am going to take care of everybody. i don't care if it costs me votes or not. everybody will be taken care of much better than now. >> we're going to take of everyone. we're taking care of people. and people are going to pay much less and get it so good. >> they're going to have private health care. but i will not allow people to die on the sidewalks and the streets of our country if i'm president. you may let it. and you may be fine with it. >> so the government. >> save medicare, medicaid and social security without cuts. have to do it. >> we're going to have a health care that it far less expensive
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and far better. >> yes, premiums will be coming down. yes deductionables will be coming down. >> i've been talking about a plan with heart. i said add some money to it. a plan with heart. >> and tonight it just got harder for majority leader mitch mcconnell to get the votes he needs. he can only lose two. and senator susan collins from maine became the sixth republican to say she could not vote for it. now to the panel. we are to happy kelsey snell covers washington the "washington post". policy director for the romney ryan 2012 effort. he worked in the administration of bush 43 o 43 and most recently advised republican senators on this health care bill. still with us here in new york, jonathan le mere, associated press. well, do we start on the numbers jonathan, because there is this trick to get to 50 that is in front of mitch mcconnell. susan collins took her time, deliberated about this. had some questions she wanted answered. now what? >> the senate majority leader is renowned for counting votes. he is not someone who is going
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to you would think bring something to the floor without knowing it would pass. they had hoped to have a vote this week. that is very much in question now. but whether they can get this done before the july 4th holiday. there seems to be some room for negotiations there appear to be nos some of the others like cruz are are looking for things to get in exchange to get to yes. but it does not appear the senate majority leader has the votes np unless something changes -- here is another number to remember. seven years that obamacare has been there. the republicans have said this is something we're going to get rid of. this is something we're going to repeal and replace. if they can't debt it done maybe they never do. >> kelsey worse than a no vote in a say susan collins is going to vote it proceeding to be considered. and she apparently has some company. so same question to you, everything jonathan said about mitch! connell is absolutely correct. but with where is the 50 here. >> he is absolutely correct.
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and you know it is very unclear to me that there is 50 right now. i spoke with senator roy blow blount hess unone of the top deputies. he said frankly the 50 isn't there yet. there are a lot of people who are speculating they can't get to the procedural vote on tuesday. it may have to slip a day while they do what they can to horse trade and give out a little bit of california money here. a couple of savings cuts there. there is an idea that senator mcconnell has money to work with here. they have set up a savings target that is much, much higher than what they need to getrd in order to stick with senate rules. they could handout extra spending to pick up moderates. >> lonnie here is why people hate washington chapter of tonight's broadcaster. this debate over getting 50 while germane has absolutely nothing to do with the folks who are terribly nervous and headachen up about what might
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happen to their health care? as we established with andy card, whatever happens here, republicans now have to own it. do you think republicans are prepared for that in. >> i don't know that they're prepared for it but it is absolutely the case they're going to own it. by the way politicly that's why they want to have this vote this we can. because if they don't do it before the fourth of july recess the concern is they're going out there and become that muchrd harder to get it done. what i think what senator! connell has done here is to use the process he has decided to implement to get the bin across the finish line the so-called budget reconciliation process. he shas used it to the best extent he can. which is not to say they've written a perfect bill they haven't. but they've done as much as they can to put as much good stuff in there to really get through that gauntlet of the more moderate republicans and more conservative republicans to get to a product that works. unfortunately it does look like it's could belled together but that's a function of the process.
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>> where on donald trump's dying in the streets scale will this fall? i don't mean to be snide about it, but all the things we just heard him say about a bill with heart, about spending more money, about people getting great health care, where does this fall. >> as it turns out health care is a difficult thing. >> yeah. >> who knew. >> who knew but apparently it is difficult. here the reality. the senate bill is better hand the house bill in the sense the subsidies are more generous. in many pays cbo core illustrationed. they have 330 billion to play with oh mitch mcconnell will figure out how to the deploy the money to satisfy the concerns of the moderate republicans as well as more conservative ones that's a powerful tool in the hands of a fwie we all know is an incredibly savvy operator. >> jonathan whatever gets done whether trump wants to own it or not is anyone's guess. >> it's not mcconnell care it's trump care. he will own it. this is a white house desperate
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for a win. as we've been discussing the russia probe grows by the day. this is a president whose approval ratings are at a historic lows for this point in the term. this is a president now open to attacks from democrats saying, hey, you're favoring the rich. you're favoring the wealth. instead of the working middle class voters who helped get you into office. >> kelsey, i know you're a journalist not in the prediction business. but try -- try some odds. what's the chance we get a health care bill beneath the president's pen by the time congress leaves washington on the july 4th break. >> i would give it 60% chance at this point. a little better than 50/50. i think it's important to remember that as much as republicaning will own this. many of the most difficult things in this bill, the cuts to
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medicaid, the changes they have come down the line to the subsidies. they don't happen right away. many of these things happen after the next senate election after the next presidential election. there is some delay to the pain. i think people are willing to guess they'll take the delayed pain and be a able to follow through and saying they repealed obamacare. that might be better for some. >> wow the merging of two great time honored washington tradition attention delay the pain and kick the can down the road. stay tuned to this space for more updates. i want to thank the panel. interesting discussion. obviously a story still breaking beneath the service. kelley, jonathan, lonnie. thank you. the supreme court decision on the travel ban what it means when you take it apart. as we will when "the 11th hour" continues.
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it's being called a partial win for president trump today from the supreme court. the court has largely agreed to let the travel ban take effect while agreeing to hear the cases in the fall. this after two lower courts, federal courts, ruled against it. the atlantic had this great reality check on what happened today. quote, the victory was limited
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in a way that anyone who has ever been 12 years old will understand. the court didn't say the government could never have a poniy. but it didn't say the government could have a poniy either. instead it said if you still want a poniy next october we'll see. with us tonight, richard painter, chief ethics lawyers to president george w. bush now teaches law at the university of minnesota when he is not out in l.a. hanging out with bill mar. and here in new york ar y melber nbc's chief legal correspondent. welcome to you both counselors. ari you get the math question up top. where did the president get his math on a 9-0 decision in his favor? and how many people -- actual people will this end up affecting from now to october? >> i think he got his math from the most creative lawyering you can get which is to take an unsigned opinion of the court which doesn't have a head count and say, well nobody was actively dissenting from this opinion so i'm going to call it unanimous. in fact all we know is that the opinion was speaking for the
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court and the actual vote count will come later on the merits. how many people? well we ball park somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 to 150,000 people normally let in. initially this blocked the travel ban for all of them. and now immigration experts are telling us that about half might satisfy this new test that the court put out today. meaning that somewhere around, you know, 75,000 plus people may still get through while the other half are now blocked by the partially in-stated travel ban. >> and just check me on this. the court today made a standard that says, you just got to have somebody, a person perhaps a church group, definitely a job, a school that is accepted you. you have to have pennsylvania real connection to the united states from these countries to come to the united states. it's those of you who don't that we're not allowing in the united states.
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>> that's right. to put it in a sentence. the court said you can still enforce the travel ban against foreign nationals with no link to the u.s. so they're out of the game. but people who have as you just described the links can still appeal and be in the game. >> richard painter let's fast forward to october. the court takes on this subject in chief. but the travel ban will have expired by the time they get their hands dirty in the case. what happens? >> well, if the president wants to continue with the travel ban he can issue a new travel ban, and presumably it would be the same travel ban. the problem is the president has been tweeting that he really wants a different travel ban, the one he originally had, and that this is just the watered down version. if the president plays that game he changes the travel ban between now and october to put it back where it was before at the beginning of the
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administration, i think the supreme court is going to get quite irritated. they're not going to want to be looking at moving target here. they need to told exactly what the travel ban is that the president wants to implement and then make a decision. all we had today was a preliminary decision about what they're going to allow between now and when they make a final decision. there is no decision from the court yet. the president has created a very bad record here in this case by running all over the country talking about a muslim ban. and calling it a travel ban. and then the lawyers in the justice department try to avoid the term travel ban that the president tweeted out, it is a travel ban, in all caps. this is a very messy case. and the supreme court's going to have a lot of work to do between now and october to figure out what the law really is. is this constitutional or is it not? that's going to be a very
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challenging decision for the supreme court. and i don't think we ought to be trying to read too many tea leaves today from what happened today. >> you and richard have been so good not using terms like per cure yam. people watching this know that the two other federal courts blocked it. what did the supreme court find notable they didn't? what virtue did they find that the other federal courts did not. >> well the other federal courts really dug into what mr. painter was talking about the tweets. >> the history of this. >> the history ab, the and mouse and how do you ignore it when
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someone talks openly about religious zrimgs? this ruling didn't go down the road taufrl they loongd at the who, not the why. it's likely lawyers pushing against the case will likely push the why. . you got to look at what he said. you got to look at the behind the curtain of the bare text of the order. folks may remember back in vietnam era, there was the discussion maybe you declare victory and leave. there is the possibility it's the smart lawyers prevail when the 90-day deadline runs the trump administration says we did it for 90 days got part of it done under the supreme court. let's declare victory and close up shop. >> two smart lawyers and we're awfully happy they are on our team. ar y smell ber, richard painter. . thank you very much. still ahead tonight what spies around the world can learn from the president's twitter feed? also, i served as defense secretary. white house chief of staff, cia director and then some. leon panetta with us when "the 11th hour" continues. welcome back to the monday new band-aid® brand skin-flex™, bandages. our best bandage yet! it dries almost instantly. better? yeah. good thing because stopping never crosses your mind. band-aid® brand. stick with it™
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welcome back to the monday night edition of our broadcast. earlier tonight i spoke with leon panetta. long-term member of congress, the democratic party in california, formerly white house chief of staff to bill clinton,
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formerly secretary of defense and formerly director of the cia. i started by asking him about something president trump wrote on twitter. quote, the reason that president obama did nothing about russia after being notified by the cia of meddling is that he expected clinton would win. he didn't choke he colluded or obstructed. here is leon panetta response. >> well, i think the president will use any kind of diversion he can to try to take attention away from him and his responsibility as president to deal with what the russians not only did during the election but the threat this they represent in the future. i -- i just -- i don't see a lot of -- a lot of credibility by someone who has called the russian interference a hoax, a witch hunt, has blamed it on hackers, has blamed it on the
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chinese. and i think has used every diversion to try to take attention away from it. and i think this is what the attack is with regards to president obama. just another diversion. >> mr. secretary, what do you think is happening to our image overseas, especially among allies? what do you fear is happening to our image overseas? >> well, i worry a great deal about it. because i've always -- i've always felt that the united states since world war ii has represented strong leadership in the world. and has been an important factor in terms of not only working with our allies but working to try to preserve the peace in our times.
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and i think that as our allies look to the united states, as other countries look to the united states they're not sure whether that leadership is going to be there when they need it. and i think there is a great deal of concern, a great deal of nervousness and a lot of questions about whether or not the united states will continue to provide world leadership instead of just retreating into foretres america. >> one of the kinder things you've said about the current administration is to say they are dysfunctional. in your view how far off the plumb line of normal for administrations are they? do they remain still? >> well, i worry about that a great deal. look, president trump won the election. he is president of the united
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states. i think all of us believe that the presidents of the united states ought to succeed in office because we are all dependent on a president being able to do that. but what i sense is a tremendous amount of disorganization within the white house in terms of the ability to provide the command and control, support system, that needs to be provided to the president. i think there are too many centers of power, too much competition, too many people who are running around who do not have specific responsibilities in terms of their jobs. i think the president has to get a stronger chain of command in the white house if he is ever going to be able to succeed as president. >> finally, a question about health care. mostly because you were a member of congress for so long. and you know very well the human toll it can take at the other end. what do you make of the senate plan today? what we're hearing about it? what cbo has said about it and what we know of the house plan,
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and what we're likely to see in the effort to repeal and replace obamacare? >> in my experience in the congress, any time a major piece of legislation is rushed to judgment it usually winds up failing. and not accomplishing what it's intended to do. i think that rushing to judgment on a major piece of legislation -- we just fwound out that 22 million people will lose their health insurance as a result of this bill. that's unacceptable. and it's going to create a tremendous amount of pressure on those members who represent people, ordinary people, who will lose health coverage. i just -- i just don't understand the rush to judgment here. because this is a major issue affecting every american in this country. they ought to take their time
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and do it right. >> joining us from the panetta institute, formerly congressman, formerly cia director, formerly secretary of defense leon panetta thank you for being with us. >> thank you, brian. >> and up next here as we take one more break from twitter with love. what the president's tweets are telling spies across the world. when "the 11th hour" continues. broadcast.
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as we mentioned another busy day for the president on twitter, but americans aren't the only ones watching what he says in that medium. this "washington post" piece comes from a former cia veteran. quote, this is what foreign spies see when they reed president trump's tweets. it goes on, trump's twitter feed is a gold mine for every foreign intelligence agency. the president's unfiltered thoughts are available night and day broadcast to his 32.7 million twitter followers immediately and without much
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obvious mediation by diplomats, strategists or handlers. the author of this piece is former cia nada bakos. thank you so much for being with us. i guess the first question for those who have yet to read your piece, what are we americans not seeing that could be damaging or revealing, and what are people in your line of work reading those tweets looking for? >> more than initiation an intelligence analyst looks for information on world leaders that adds to the information that they were collecting through classified means. what is so different about trump's tweets and the advantage it gives to foreign intelligence agencies is he's doing this in an unfiltered way and openly in the public forum.
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intelligence agencies collect information and do it o co. vertly and sometimes risking their lives to collect that information. this offers an ininciting into trump himself as the person, which is very unusual as far as world leader. >> so your problem not that he's tweeting about being in florida or new jersey or at the white house. most days he's been relitigating the russia case. he has gone after his perez assess or in office. what are examples of what he's saying is saving our opponents and enemies work? >> it exposes his priorities and tells us what news programs he's watching and what he's reading. what's top of mind at any given hour of in addition, it tells us what his vulnerabilities are
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when he's concerned about a russian investigation, that gives him a sense of what could they use to influence the president, cause disruption, and possibly win favor with him? his deleted tweets also give a little bit of insight into how infiltered his tweets are. that also gives an analyst some insight. >> if i assigned you to put a binder on my table tomorrow morning with a personality profile, some of the information, some of where you would start, you've already gained through public domain doing what we all do, reading what he says on twitter every morning?
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>> yes, absolutely. his lag of timing of tweets, for instance, also gives insight into what is it he's distracted birks what is it he's finding a priority. if there's a u.s. military action, is he tweeting about it right away, how long in between an action does it take for him to do that. and then comparing that to the official potus account is insightful because those seem to be the more formal ones. >> thank you very much for congress on our broadcast this evening. a final break for us, and coming up, what ivanka trump tries to avoid while working in the west wing of her father's white house when we stop sign. be the you who doesn't cover
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blap . and one last thing before we go here to the extent. first daughter and assistant to the president ivanka trump working on key issues on the west wing. she said something interest about her role in the west wing. it was during an interview with "fox and friends," the president's favorite morning show. >> you are an adviser to the president of the united states. what are do you advise your father on? >> i advise my father on a plethora of things. i give him on open and candid feedback. i try to stay out of politics. his political instincts are phenomenal. >> again, her title, assistant to the president of the united states in the west wing of the white house. later in the interview, ivanka trump said she would give her father a for the job he has done as president so far.
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that is our broadcast as we start a new week. thank you for being here with us. good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. mr. president, can we ask you about the cbo report? >> thank you very much, everybody. i appreciate it. thank you. >> there are 22 million more uninsured. >> does the republican bill have enough heart? >> are you -- >> silence from the president on health care. new report finds the senate gop bill would leave 22 million more americans uninsured over the next ten years. now at least four republicans don't even want it to come up for a vote. >> plus, a big legal win for the president. the supreme court has given the go ahead to begin enforcing parts of the trump administration's travel ban. an ominous warning from the white house. the administration accuses the syrian government of