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up for a second draft. here is majority leader mitch mechanic contin mcconnell on the floor. >> we are continuing to work to bring legislation to the floor for a debate and a vote. we know we cannot afford to delay on this issue. we have to get this done for the american people. >> word of these new efforts comes just a day after mcconnell abruptly canceled this weeks vote. still president trump is voiting optimism that the plan can be revived over the forty of july break. >> i think we're going to get at least very close and we'll get over the line. a great feeling in that room yesterday. this health care would be so good, and it would be far better than obama care, and much less expensive for the people and less expensive for the country. >> we're monitoring an off camera briefing happening at the white house, we'll bring that to
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you as soon as any news happens. first, our word of the day is participat bipartisan. a lot of lawmakers are invoking that word but cay that work together. >> if we can't reach an agreement friday it is probably the end of a sole party bill. >> i think a bolter approach would be to try to involve democrats in the process. >> let's debrief with our analysts. we have phil rucker, white house bureau chief, and i'm going to start with you, garrett. senator john mccain was asked if
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there could be a health care deal by friday, and he said "if b pigs could fly." >> mitch mcconnell needs this massed. they would need to get a new bill or the changes they make to the old bill to the congressional budget office and get it scored the same way they had to in the prooefgs bill. time is of the essence here, and the political reason that so many senators have spoken in the la last few days is they don't look great the longer they stay in the sun. i have to tell you from conservations i have had from other senators, they are still as far apart. you have rand paul that sent a letter to mitch mcconnell for the things he didn't think could
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be improved, and you have collins saying it is one of the biggest problems for her. so it might not be as complex, but it will be tough. >> what happens if they can't get a second draft by saturday. >> a lot of this is staff driver work. they're going to keep plugging away. they do have more time than not, but the longer they go without a vote and without a plan, the easier it is for democrats and allies to stand up and oppose this and try to harden the opposition against it. >> i know they will be facing angry voters, but they are facing them right now in the halls of the senate. >> yes, there has been groups of protestors moving around. they're targeting republican
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senators on the different ends of the spectrum here, they stopped by path toomey's office. they have one important thing in common. one of their counter parts are also democratic senators. there may be afternoon effort to peel things off. it will create a headline that will be shown on local investigation and press. >> absolutely, peter yesterday when the senators went to the white house i was struck by the image of donald trump seating two two of the biggest opposers of the bill. why did they sit next to president, what was go on there? >> we don't have any specific id
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case. it is noteable that deanh helle was near him too. all parties including some of the opponents, bhau is striking me is house republicans here, celebrating their success on the house side, a very different side on the senate side, and more active as we understand it from the last time e she is free, making lawmakers and republican house members even before the scheduled vote took place after yesterday's delay that the free -- mic pence the
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preside vice president doing more leaning. hoe has been quarterbacking a lot of this. >> and fill, you have a lot of, you talk about how republicans don't feel like they need to bend to his will. you say they don't think he has a full accuracy of policy. what does the white house say to think of this? are they reacting to their president who is neither fear nor loved? >> they argument that he is feared and loved and that he is working behind the scenes to try to bring the party together, and this is based on exhaustive reporting talking to a number of
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senators and house members and republican fixtures here in washington that no matt matter, they don't feel the need to get in lock step with the president. they don't necessarily feel like trump has their back. they don't feel like there is such a price to pay. that is one of the reasons you will see his america first policies out with the campaign attack ads. they have since been taking down, but that was really a shot across the down to send a message that if they're not in line they'll have trouble. why can they not get their agenda done just by themselves then? >> they don't agree on what the
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agenda is. they agree there needs to be a health care fix, but there are huge disagreements on what the replacements will look like and that is a huge problem right now. they are just not all able to agree to get to that consensus in the senate. that is what they continue to struggle with in the weeks to come. >> peter alexander, thank you very much. >> i want to bring in senator michael bennett. he sits on the committee of health, education, labor and pensions. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to play something that orin hatch said. >> their vote will turn the whole thing into a socialized medicine. i can't imagine any republican wanting that, but that is what
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they're doing. who can you work with over there? they, half of the time they won't even come to meetings, they're not serious legislatures unless they get their way. >> do you believe the testimode and the republicans are so far away that there is no space for them to come to the table? >> i have never had trouble working with them on a range of issues from immigration do taxes including orin hatch. that has personally never been an finish for me. the problem with the true in my view, and i know this will sound presu presumptous of me, but i don't think they care what happens. they cobbled together something that is not really a health care
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bill to try to answer id ideological frame work. >> have you talked to the fellow republican in your state? >> yeah, of course. >> what have you said? >> i'll let him speak for himself. >> what have you said? can we propose a bipartisan amendment. until it is defeated, it will be hard for democrats and republicans to be able to create solutions. i think in the wake of that we salutely should be able to do it. >> you think his strategy is to bring it to the floor to be defeated? >> i think that's the only way we'll get to a bipartisan solution.
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if he brings it to the bill and wins and then there won't be a bipartisan solution. he can demonstrate to his base and the people in his party that he can't pass health care legislation. that is a terrible way to do business but that is how it is being done here. >> what would you like to work with republicans on? >> i would like to answer questions about why there is there is no competition in the insurance markets there. the critique of the affordable care act that i think is totally legitimate. how can we be required to buy something that is expensive. that is something that we should be answering. we should be answers how to create more competition in those areas.
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i would support a public option. i would like to answer the concerns of rule hospitals in colorado that are concerns they may have to close or have more uncompensated care. i would love to talk to republicans about drug prices in the united states that are astronomical. people are deeply discouraged with our health care system. that doesn't have to do with people being against or for obama care, it has to do with the fact that people in america have to make choices that no one else in the industrialized world has to make because we have a lousy health care system. democrats and republicans should be able to come together on that i think and work in the interest of the people. >> thank you, mike bennett. >> joining me now is david jolly from florida, and former advisor to hillary clinton, and joel
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bennenson. the last two squares on my giantbox i didn't introduce earlier. you're seeing that senator bennet is there talking about his desire to come to an agreement. mitch mcconnell saying the democrats don't want to speak to us. gop republicans want something that says repeal, others don't want to touch anything they says repeal. >> let's keep in mind when you just heard from senate bennet. he talked about one thing he was willing to compromise on and he named eight or nine. what republicans have done since they started this effort.
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more people are approving than disapproving. donald trump's numbers have been under water. more people disapproving than approving. what the republicans have to believe they don't believe obama scare in a death spiral. they want things fixed. if they would stop with the rhetoric and act like a true leader saying let's come to the table and work on three things to improve obama care, that would be a starting point to break the log jam that is going downhill faster, not slower. >> do you think it is as easy as mitch mcconnell saying we're going to find a way to fix obama care? what's the republican side of things? >> there is a real problem with the rising costs of health care. we know that and it is something that has to be draersed. they can name some areas where
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they can work together, but democrats have the same seven years that republicans did to come up with a fix and repair plan and we're just starting to see it and i think we're seeing disagreement in the democratic party, is it medicare for all, and i say that not to be critical, but because there is an opportunity lost. mcconnell can call their bluff and say let's sit down, let's have a public hearing, put the democratic proposal on the table. neither side is doing that to be honest. >> well, the democrats got a bill that cliaccomplished thing that people wanted. it did increase medicaid in covering populations that didn't have it before. there was positive results. the republicans never wanted to fix this in president obama's years, we know that. they say it is in a beth spiral
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and it's because they're keeping their foot on the throat of it. it is not helping them politically and it's not helping them get to 50 votes yes. when you talk about who should be leading here, you have a republican white house and white house, show leadership, show you want to bring the other side in, build on what is working. i think what they said is right in some part, you have thing that's are much better than even years ago, not everything. >> donald trump campaigns on not touching entitlements, he is touching entitlements, on everyone having health care and this is cutting out 20 million people. he is not a tried and true republican in some ways, he is more of a moderate democrat at times, he had a unique ability to come in and get a fresh start and say listen, the campaign is
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behind us, i will try to do what i do best which is make deals with both sides of the aisle. why have we not seen him try to do that. he has just thrown bombs to the democrats. don't they expect to say he can reach across the aisle and get things done? >> that is the historic opportunity lost. he could have been smoking cigars on the back of the white house patio. there is no way they can sell it to republicans. you can't sell a bill that takes 22 million or 24 million off of the table. that is the problem why they can't get there in the senate. keep medicare in place for the elderly and retired, early enroll those with pre-existing conditions in medicare, keep
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medicaid for those that cannot afford private plans. maim them honor the contract for the term of the contract. those are simple sloeolutions t even trump govoters are looking for. >> thank you very much, guys. what you're looking at right now is live pictures, i believe this is the russell retundral where protestors are getting arrested. an older gentleman right there in a suit getting arrested outside of the senate offices in washington dc right now. we have been seeing protests in those offices all day today, also some protests out there outside of the beltway including one down in florida earlier today. many of these people are staging
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a sit in. they are asking their congressmen not to vote for the bill. they are saying our lives are at risk if you pass this bill, just a couple minutes ago, the president was hosting the chicago cubs and he talked about health care? take a listen. >>. >> doing pretty well. >> this is a great team that wanted to be here with trump, right? but i just want to thank and grate the team bhop is the best
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hitter, tell me -- >> i think you have a lot of them, i think you a lot of them. we wanted him in the administration and after 9,000 pages of filings he said to heck with it. >> a great governor of nebraska. >> you met my son rosco -- >> yes, congratulations do you have a game today? >> tonight. >> and you said let's come over, let's go to the oval office. where is dan gilbert? grab him. he just came in. he is looking for a good basketball player. let's go over to -- come here, dan gilbert -- >> i'm a cleveland guy. . come here, dan. you want a -- come over here.
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you apt good baseball play tore play basketball. >> he owns the cavaliers, and i guess you can't say great season, right? good season. last year was great, right? anyway, senator, you know who that is, right? one of the greats, are you a fan? >> am i a fan? die hard. >> a lot of fans. >> do you want to come over with the team, come on, senator, get over here with the team. >> i don't know if you know this, but he spaent hent his hon with you. >> so, ask him how he is doing with lebron, huh? how is lebron doing?
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things are good, great friend of mine, supporter and great guy. congratulations to everybody, that is fantastic, a great achievement, and your team is doing okay but you're going to do great starting now, right? does anyone want to see the oval office. all right. we'll leave them behind. . and just to do a little official business, health care is working along very well. we are going to have a big surprise with a great health care package. now they're happy, okay -- >> what do you mean by a big surprise? >> a great sure prize. >> you're going to have a great, great surprise with the health care package, that from trump right there as he hosted the world championship chicago cubs saying they wanted to be there with trump, be there with the president, we'll be right back.
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the exact same problem that is occurring right now. you would think the u.s. government would have a response for this. instead we have seen nothing. >> so far what we're seeing is the obama administration did not do enough, but we're not hearing the steps that we're getting from the trump hadministration. why did the bureau do this and what is their interest in this country. >> a major cybersecurity vendor. they sell to individuals and the government. they have been warning about ties between the company's founder and the russian government. the calls have been coming in and they fans out to the homes
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of employees across the country to ask them questions about the company, about russia ties, about how the software works. they say it was a counter-intelligence move, but the scrutiny on all things russia is growing. it is a general fbi counter intelligence briefing. >> do they have any contacts? >> they paid mike flynn around $11,000 for consulting in 2015, but that is not the focus of what they were asking about. there have been concerns for the potential of security risks with software on all of these american computers. lately lawmakers have been raising that question, a
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question of a back door and security breaches. they dispute they would ever do anything like that, they say it doesn't cooperate with either government. why would they want to do that? >> two parts to it. one it tells you who the target is and who the target is. it would tell you where the initial tips will come from, where the counter intelligence started and how they t triangulated on that. >> i have not seen any that came out in open source. these investigations are a lower standard than they are in title
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3. >> what do you think of carter page being interviewed for hours without a lawyer being present? >> it's yunique. generally you don't do that. there are reasons to have them there that is not always guilt or innocence. so it seems like either he is trying to effort size he has nothing to hide, or poor judgment? >> what about agreeing to testify, does that mean things are moving forward? >> i think they are moving forward investigative wise. after we have seen him, the same thing with flin, you know the big question to me is how did he ever get involved with the trump campaign to begin with? he had the bank account before, and there seems to have been no vetting or the trump campaign
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willingly brought him in. >> the president always felt pardon mely towards russia. they had been hostive going back decades. that's what we know so far, thank you. the offcamera white house briefing has just wrapped up. let's go to kristin welker. >> first of all, sean price isser was p-- spicer was put do the person for the briefing, it turned out to be sarah huckabee sanders, and also two i.c.e. workers talking about kate's law. so that is the first part of the briefing. the second part really focused
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on health care and syria. on the health care front, sandered pushed back against a notion that the president has not been deeply engaged in trying to get senators on board with the republican version. she talked about the fact that he was working the phones. the push back on that is what he was he doing beforehand. i think we may have sound of sar sarah huckabee sanders talking about it, the second headline here today was on syria. i asked her a cup questions about syria particularly in the wake of nikki hailey who earlier today on capitol hill panlted a picture that assad decided not to take action or launch another
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chemical weapon's attack in the wake of that stern warning that came out of the white house the other day. i pressed her on that. i asked her if that was an accurate depiction. she said she was not prepared to say that effectively didn't want to go beyond nikki hailey's comments. she did incest that every relevant agency had been made aware of the plans to issue the te stern warning. that comes amid our own reporting and a number of news outlets that had some who were caught off guard by the president's decision. and that the principal players were looped in, but some were saying they were caught off guard. back to health care, we have that sound, here is what she had to say. >> what is plan b?
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>> we're focused on plan a. that is repealing and replacing obama care. the president is fully engaged as is his administration in working with house and senate members to make sure we repeal and replace obama care and put in place a health care reform system that is sustainable and works in servicing all americans. that's the only focus right now. >> sarah sanders echoing what we heard from the president earlier today that there is still measured optimism that the senate can get something done on health care once they return from the july 4th recess. >> was sarah huckabee sanders asked about "the washington post" reporting saying they're not scared of the president, they don't love him, they don't feel like they need to work with him, they don't feel like he is worthy of the praise for the
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policy. >> yes, she pushed back and said that he is engaged in the details of this. the other thing i thought that was notable is she was asked about anything that would be a nonstarter. she did not give specifics, but she went back to that issue of medicaid expansion and coverage and says it remains a key policy for the president. it was one of the thorniest issues on the debate. >> an one of the biggest cuts. >> we have a little more sound from sarah huckabee sanders, this time talking about how engaged the president is. >> the criticisms and the criticism that has been out there that the president has not been fully engaged on this one, your response to that and if you could detail his level of engagement for us.
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>> the president has been very engaged in the process as have multiple pmembers of his administration and he made a lot of calls directly to members. he had roughly 46 members of the senate here yesterday. they had a long, lengthy good productive conversation. we're going to continue doing that just like he did with the house. he was engaged in making sure that happened and he is somebody that we said before i would never under estimate this president, if he is committed to getting something done, he will. >> i would never under estimate the president. the house health care vote delayed, expected to fail, the president got them to take it up for a vote again and it passed. sarah huckabee sanders has a point. >> she does, and and you can't
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count out mcconnell, he is very good. the challenge for republicans that want to move forward with this, they don't have a lot of votes to play with and unlike the house they can only afford to lose a few senators. in addition to that you're hearing those opposed saying we don't just want to see tweaks around the edges, we want major changes to this bill and you're hearing that from conservatives that want to see obama care more completely repealed and replaced and from the moderates that say the cut is just too deep. the cbo score that 22 million people could lose coverage. i think that is where the challenge lies. the house health care bill was signed off on as all be dead and it came back. the question is will they be able to do it this time around and what role will the president take once congress returns from his recess. will he be more public in his
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arm twisting or will he stay behind the scenes and try to work the situation from that. >> did someone just sneeze in there, step on a dog's tail, what that was? >> i have no, i have two ear pieces in, there is always a lot of activity in the briefing room. >> thank you very much for everything today. >> appreciate it, always good to see you. >> you too. >> senators leave for fourth of july recess this week without a vote on health care. when they get home the fireworks might not only be in the sky. there could be plenty in townhalls as well. marianna, you have your umbrella, that's good, are protestors still out there? >> they have disbursed for the most part, katie, still raining here in miami. we saw dozens of people out here for hours chanting rubio vote
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no. at one point they marched up to his office building door and lined up one by one and started going in expressing their concerns. protestors like robin who has stuck around here and robin, you're a mother, you're a housewife, you're from the state of florida, and you been protesting for three days straight like my folks we have seen here. why be here three days straight? >> it is so important, i'm here fighting for those with pre-existing conditions. i have people, what will happen? this bill allows states to opt out of those covering the essential health benefits of pre-existing conditions. what will happen to them, and it is so personal to me and everyone i know around me. >> what is your message to senator rubio today? >> he needs to stand up for us. this is our health and the welfare of everyone in his
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community. how can he not be there for us. we need his help. he needs to be there for us. >> katie, another protest tlslad for 5:00 p.m. in miami today, and about a dozen floridans were outside of his office in washington dc today. >> that woman there getting to the heart of it, all of the uncertainty out there right now when it comes to people's health care. thank you very much, glad you got your umbrella. i want to bring in andy slavic. former director of the medicaid and medicare services. the main argument is that obama care is collapsing. the fact check that we have is that it is not, and every cbo score has said that, and they are largely stable. why are the republicans using
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this talking point right now, when the nonpartisan congressional budget office says it is not true. >> i think there is a difference between stable and robust. there has been competition in parts of the country. prices have gone up quite a lot this year and are projected to go up quite a lot more this year. for some people in some markets, this program has not delivered what they hoped it would and republicans made a lot of hay of those places where things have been particularly dysfunctional. you know a stable market is a little technical term, it means there is not a total collapse, but there are still problems throughout the country. >> the republicans are saying collapsed or imploding, if congress moved forward with not a repeal, but a fix, what should be at the top of the list?
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>> if they took off cut that's are responsible for a lot of the coverage lost, and focused on the five or ten markets that margo is referring to, i think he would invite a real bipartisan response. the bill has gone a little online politics. it is going to the place where conservative senators are realizing it hurts so many people in their state including the finances of their state, that they're finding it to be a very difficult time to get on board. i don't think it is fixable, i think you to go back to where you were to find a place to focus on the exchanges. >> what would the republicans consider in terms of changes? what would be paletteable to them? >> i guess would they be okay with going back and taking out
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the cuts to medicaid, reinstating the expansion? >> it doesn't steeem that way. there's quite a few republicans that feel the medicaid program is too big. it's unwieldy, it is a federal obligation that is expensive to keep up in the long run. the cuts and restructuring is essential to it. it's hard to imagine them coming to the table for the kind of compromise that andy is talking about. there is many big members that the changing are the real incentive to vote for this bill. >> what would they be able to agree on? >> if you imagine this larger repeal effort feyinailing, then have a different conversation. it is probably hard to imagine there is bipartisan changes arnold here. they could try to shore things
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up and stabilize them, but that is not what the republicans priority is right now. they want to repeal obama care and get rid of existingtu sure. >> and democrats don't a repeal of obama care. so for much of them, they're still very much on the opposite side of the aisle. margo excuse me, andy slavic, and the "new york times" marg margot -- >> we'll show you part of what you may have missed from the exchange yesterday between the deputy press secretary and a reporter, where do we go from here? >> i think america is looking for something better. they're looking for something more. and i think they deserve something better from our news media. i tried to quit with the patch; that didn't work. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking.
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the white house's relationship with the press isn't exactly what you would call normal and it heated up yesterday again during the briefing. take a looks at this exchange. >> if we make the slightest mistake, the slightest word is off. it is just an absolute tirade from a lot of people in this room. but news outlets get to go on day after day and cite unnamed sources, use stories without sources. >> why in the name of heaven -- any one of us are replaceable and any one of us if we don't
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get it right the audience has the opportunity to turn the channel or not read us. >> i think -- >> you have been been elected to serve for four years at least. there's no option other than that. we're here to ask you questions you're here to provide the answers and what you just did is inflammatory to people all over the country who look at it and say "see, once again the president is right and everybody else out here is fake media." and everybody in this room is only trying to do their job. >> well, i just -- i disagree completely. >> that reporter right there is with the sentinel newspaper. earlier on "morning joe" he said "we are bullied and browbeaten everyday and i have pretty much have had enough of it. deputy white house press secretary sara huckabee sanders discussed yesterday's confrontation at today's briefing where once again cameras were barred. >> like many of us have covered multiple administrations and you hear words, you see words, i'm just wondering what you were thinking and feeling a day later? >> i think that the white house
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had a great day yesterday, even. >> so will that confrontation, the one we saw earlier, change anything? probably not. president trump bashed the media again this morning on twitter but for someone who blasts fake news, take a look at this. the "washington post" reported last week the president has made 669 -- 669 -- false and misleading claims since taking office. let's go to carol lee, white house reporter for the "wall street journal" and back with us is phil rucker the "washington post" white house bureau chief. carol, are things the same on camera or on audio as they are off camera? is the relationship between the press and the white house as prickly behind the scenes? >> it's a little bit different. obviously when cameras are on it takes it down a little bit. the temper is taken down a little bit but there's still tense moments. one of the reasons why the without likes off-camera briefings is because they feel
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that there's not this sort of more volatile back-and-forth with the press that then captures moments like the ones you just played so they have prefer to have it this way. but for us, you know, it creates a situation where we're asking all these questions and, yes, there's sound of the answers but there's no video on the answers and that elevates it to another level of accountability. i don't think that any reporter begrudges the white house trying to mix things up or change the system but there are certain underpinnings of it that are valuable and that is accountability and accessibility and one of the things that is concerning not just -- opening these briefings up to cameras but also the number of questions that the press secretary is not prepared to answer and that's where -- that is a real concern because they're supposed to be able to prepared to answer questions that are on the daily news that are obvious and there's a number of -- increasing number of occasions in which they're not prepared to
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answer those questions. >> do they ever get back to you with answers on those questions? >> that varies as well. there's a number of questions they have not gotten back to. some reporters in the white house are keeping a list and continue to ask, you know, you said you'd get back to us on this, have you gotten an answer? and they don't. that's increasingly concerning because it cuts at one of the core points of having a press secretary and the relationship between the white house press corps and the white house and that's to have accountability and for them to answer questions. >> i know that exchange with brian carom is getting attention but something right before that struck me, something that sarah huckabee sanders said to the cnn reporters who were fired -- fired -- for putting out a report that was not accurate. take a listen. >> there's a video circulating now -- whether it's accurate or not i don't know but i would
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encourage everybody in this room to take a look at it. if it is accurate, it's a disgrace to all of media, to all of jurnism. >> phil, she's talking about cnn posting an inaccurate reportsci and fired reporters for then she goes on in the next breath to say "i'm not sure if this video is accurate but i encourage everybody to take a look at it." now the president has posted that video, that same one, the one that's in question, to his instagram saying everybody take a look at that. how can they say -- how can they flame cnn for something that they've been accountable for and taken action against and in the next breath say "go look at this video, i don't know if it's accurate. >> well, look, the white house wants to ratchet up a war with the media and they see it as in
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their political interests to have these confrontations and i as a reporter wish everybody would take the volume down a notch so we can get back to work. we're trying to cover this government. we're trying to cover this president, we're trying to ask questions on behalf of the american people and hold the public officials to some level of accountability. and i think we can do that in a professional way without the president pointing figures and saying "fake news, fake this, fake that." it would be helpful, i think, if we'd turn it down a notch. >> do you any if the reporters -- i don't know, do you think anyone's going to turn it down? do you think the president is ever going to turn it down if there's a report out there he does not like, carol? >> no, i don't. but i also -- i agree with phil in the sense that there should be a -- there's a specific way that people should think about engaging that and you definitely have to point out when the president is wrong and when reports are correct. at the same time i think this is a white house that relishes in
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fighting with the media in ways that you haven't seen previous. there's always contentious relationship between the press and the white house. that's always been there. there's a built in healthy tension and what we've seen with the trump white house is what we saw during the campaign, which is they want to pick a fight with the media and to the extent that the press responds, we should be responding with that in mind that they are relishing this. >> that was absolutely their strategy during 2016, the scum media, they're all liars, they don't turn their cameras, even when we were turning our cameras. carol lee, fill brucker, thank you for joining me today. >> thank you, katie. >> you may have seen my retreat of the "washington post" article that revealed a bogus magazine cover that dons the walls of several trump organization properties. here's a better look at it covered in headlines like "the apprentice is a television smash" and "trump is hitting on all fronts, tv tv."
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here it is hanging on the golden walls of mar-a-lago but, again, it's all fake and today nbc news can confirm "time" magazine asked them to remove the covers. will trump take them down? to be continued. is it funny in some ways? of course, but it's further proof of this president's need for exaggerated and inflated self-praise and let's not forget two of trump's favorite words -- fake news. but because we are not fake news and value all sides of every story, we must note nbc news has reached out to the trump organization for comment. so far we have not heard back. that wraps things up for me this hour. ali velshi picks things up right now. hi, ali. >> katy, have a great afternoon. we'll talk to you in a bit. i'm ali velshi, the senate health care bill is in critical condition after this week's health care bill was canceled but according to leadership, it is not dead. >> we'll continue working so we can bring legislation for-to-the floor for debate and ultimately a vote. we know that we cannot afford to
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delay on this issue. we have to get this done for the american people. >> although at least one influential republican senator thinks there is a friday deadline to pass this bill. >> if we don't reach agreement by friday it's probably the end of a sole-party effort for health care. if we don't reach by friday then the way forward is obamacare collapses, challenge democrats to work with us to find something better. >> as it stands right now, eight republican senators are currently against the bill, many others are undecided, this as a number of republican senators are talking about reaching across the aisle and working with democrats on health care teed. >> you're hearing more people talking about working across the aisle. is that something you're interested in doing. >> certainly is. that's what we should have done from the beginning. >> i have said all along that i thought we should talk to the democrats from the beginning. i complained bitterly in 2009

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