stunt. >> democrats and republicans. >> thank you so much. that does it for this hour. hi katie. >> hi. that's a good panel you today. if it is wednesday president trump is overseas and so are his biggest troubles. tonight north korea tests a missile with potentials to reach alaska and hawaii. what options does the u.s. have to counter this threat? >> the united states is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies. >> plus where have all of the republican senators gone? how republicans are dodging health care, fireworks at home over the holiday break. and one of america's greatest unsolved mysteries.

ameila earhart, do we know what happened to her? this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good evening i'm katy tur. the clock is ticking after north korea shocked experts yesterday by testing a missile capable of striking the u.s. moments ago president trump landed in poland. he begins a crucially important trip abroad. the president will meet with g-20 leaders including china and meet one on one with putin. russia and china put out a statement urging diplomatic

talks. they are urging they freeze all military drills. this afternoon the united nation security council which includes the u.s., russia and china held an emergency meeting on north korea. they condemned the regime's action, threatened military action against it and warned of a trade war with north korea's allies. >> their actions are quickly closing off the possibility of a diplomatic collusion. the united states is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies. there are countries that are allowing, even encouraging trade with north korea in violation of u.n. security council. such would also like to continue their trade arrangements with the united states. that's not going to happen. >> it is after they confirmed the claim that it successfully tested an intercontinental

ballistic missile. a rocket like that is capable of reaching alaska and carrying a miniaturized nuclear war head which north korea is trying to develop. experts differ on when it would be operational but some think it's a quickly closing window of less than 18 months. the u.s. and south korea held a military drill in response to the missile test. they fired missiles as a show of force. president trump reiterated his frustration with china for not doing more to reign in its hostile ally. this is why he publicly stated that his patience was wearing

thin. >> patience has failed. many years it has failed and that patience is over. our goal is peace, stability and prosperity for the region, but the united states will defend itself always will defend itself, always. >> what exactly are the president's options? skblo you can separate them, containment, which hasn't worked for think recent administration, there's negotiation which the u.s. tried in the 90s. north korea is in a stronger position now than it was then. or there's military action which could lead to a catastrophic death toll.

gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. let's start with the issue of north korea. what can the president do right now, ambassador hill. >> first of all he needs the take a retry of dealing with some of our european allies. in that regard it was a little interesting to hear our u.n. ambassador kind of threaten people without really regard for what exactly they have done and we want them to do. so we'll have to see how this plays out but i think it's very important to follow up on what rex tillerson said. we are all in this together. it's a global problem. we need a global solution. in these meetings he really needs to hammer home the fact that they are building a deliverable nuclear weapon and the target is us. we cannot be indifferent to that

for can the american people expect the government to indifferent. i think he needs to be very firm. the idea that they are proposing that north korea free its tests for freezing its exercises is north korean propaganda. they have wanted the u.s. not to be engaged. frankly they want to kick us out and decouple the u.s. from south korea. i think the president needs to take a firm view with respect to the chinese and russians. they can do a lot better if the object is to slow down and get rid of the north korean nuclear ambition. >> so far the trump strategy seems to have gone completely through china. in fact take a listen to donald trump talking about how he was

going to deal with it. >> i would get on with china, let china solve that problem. they can do it quickly and surgically. that's what we should do with north korea. we have the leverage. we have the power over china, economic power and people don't understand it. with that economic power we can reign in and we can get them to do what they have to do with north korea, which is totally out of control. >> but china is helping us possibly or probably with the north korean situation. >> i wish we would have little more help with respect to north korea from china. it doesn't seem to be working out but i do like the president a lot. >> china, china, china, china, so what happens now? >> well, gross simplify case

seems to be the anthem. he does need to make clear to the chinese we are not prepared for sanctions to start working. and for are we looking for china to bring us into a negotiation with the north koreans and so far kim jong un has shown zero interest in that. his father was prepared to negotiation and he agreed to it. so i think we need to push back with the chinese and say this is what we are looking at. and i think he needs to push. it would be helpful if he understood the issues, if he read into what the situation is with respect to an underground

highly enriched uranium program. this president seem to have a different model and sort of outsource in model. you figure it out and we'll standby. beyond that what is it going to take for russia to intervene? they just met on the eve of the g-20 summit. i think the first fundamental point is the trump and the trump administration need to devise a strategy, not a single sound bite or a tweet for how they want to deal with north korea

and then they have to engage both the russians and chinese to do so. i think about when i was in the government when we dealt with iran we had a long-term strategy for that ultimate agreement that we got. it started first by saying we are ready to talk. they said no and we went to something called sanctions. u.n. security council resolution 1929 that the russians and chinese supported. wut that pressure we would have never got the agreement that they got. they still in the initial stages where i don't think they decided they want a u.n. security council, whether they want the russians to support it until they have a strategy it's very difficult to know what to recommend to say to him. >> they were saying their actions are quickly closing off the possibility. which means what would the other solution be?

is that a military solution? he was talking about how a military solution is not a viable option either. take a listen. >> we have no good options that are strictly military. a preemptive strike which we would have considered in the past is not real lay good option today. it would certainly lead to military response in south korea conventional military response but it could be very damaging to south korea and it's possible it could escalate into a nuclear war. >> talk to me what that response might look like if things got -- if there was some sort of military intervention. >> well, if you look at a map you'll see that there's some 20

million south korean residents who live within range of north korean artillery. it is very forbard deployed right up on the demilitarized zone. the first question is are we prepared to talk to the south korean gft and if we are i suspect they would not choose a preemptive strike. as they first opg. they would say let's look at these various options.

to look at the facilities in terms of nuclear weapons program and what can be done to sabotage those efforts. i think we need more time. i think we need more time if north korea is ever going to be pressured through sanctions because it seems their nuclear development is moving a lot faster than the sanctions are. it is not going to suffice. >> i don't want to let you go without talking to you for a moment and the putin meets we

will see on friday. what do you expect we are going to see we? i know you don't think we will talk about russian interference into this election. >> well, they most certainly should talk about russian interference. i think if president trump doesn't bring it up he will look either weak or ignorant. putin knows exactly what he did. he expects to be pushed back and expects to hear never do it again or there will be sanctions. i hope parking light trump understands that diplomacy is not a popularity contest. it is a chance to advance which i recollect interests and he needs to do that in a tough robust way. >> do you believe he understands putin will understand fully aware of donald trump's strengths and weaknesses. he will bring a labrador to somebody who is afraid of dogs which is what he did?

>> well, i don't know of any plans for him to bring any dog to this meeting. i have been in several bilateral meetings with presidents and prime minister put ps din. he does his home work and does his psychological homework. he will come with a game plan for to advance russia's national interest. he will say you and i need to get things done together. it's that fake news and deep state that's stopping us. let's work together against them. i hope our president that has a sophisticated smart rebuttal to that rather silly idea. >> thank you for joining me. >> and it is not every day that we have breaking news about amelia earhart. she may have been captured by the japanese. there is a photo that may prove it. with us.

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welcome back. the north korean nuclear threat will loom large over talks with leaders at the g-20 and his meeting with putin on friday. how will the president's handling of these foreign crises play here at home. let's bring in tonight's panel. beth is senior politics editor for msnbc. >> guys, i was speaking with william perry, former defense secretary earlier today. he has an incredible article interview that will scare the pants off of anybody. it is called bill perry is terrified why aren't you? he is terrified. americans don't seem to be scared and is that changing the politics of how something like

this is handled? is that why the president can go on a tweet storm and say maybe we should have a nuclear arms race? >> it doesn't seem as if war is eminent right now. americans tend to focus on things that are right in front of them. i think the story about them being able to reach alaska is getting everybody's attention. it is on the front page of the new york post. no president would have good options. it is that the expectations are especially high. he was elected as the deal guy. now it's time to show he is a great negotiator and get them to pressure north korea and if they do go to the table and get a

good deal there that's a very tall order. >> in january he said it will not get on icbm. how does donald trump explain that the icbm, that north korea does have an icbm when he tries to get elected? 202 2020? >> no president no matter who the president has been for the last several terms going forward has a good solution to north korea. there are only bad options. he told his followers, the chinese will fix it for us. today he did something very dangerous when he started saying so much for china.

the unfortunate thing the all he is going to do so try to show force to people at home instead of working towards real collusi solutions. >> we were asked how do you deal with the president's tweets? that country has had an issue with it. the foreign minister said the president is one thing. we were told to deal with the state department which is remarkable itself. there are tons of open rolls this haven't been filled. who is driving this car right now? is it trump? is it mattis? >> well, what i am really struck by is not so much the tweets but rather that most famous

statement. he said i alone with fix this. that's when his attitude, i alone can fix your health care. now he is faced with an i alone situation it happened on his watch. >> within months of him tweeting that. >> yeah. he is trying to figure out the next move. the ambassador said he seemed to try to outsource everything instead of trying to -- he talks about his personal relationship without working in that kind of partnership. he needs to get away from his ego and work along people.

>> that's the advice for literally everything. >> it's the most serious of all. >> it is even though people found it apalipalappalling. >> no one has had a good option up until now. who do you do? >> we know to work with china and russia. most of what runs the north korean comes from china. there are sanctions that have to be much stronger. you need full cooperation of the chinese government. it's not something to tweet about and demand. it requires careful diplomacy.

he spent much of his first term to get them, try to go bring them to the table. it worked. it was three dementional chess which this guy doesn't seem to know how to play. >> they have a lot of concern about what's happening. so it's a question of how far does china think they could give us lip service to how far they think they might have to do something. it is a sad game of chicken. it is one that is going to be driven. >> i'm not sure. >> yeah. china has --

>> what happens if china tries to depose the current regime? what does that have and there's always talk about they don't want north korean refugees. it's not just so easy for china to walk in and say we are going to deal with this. >> first of all, i'm not clear -- >> it's pretty clear at this point. so the chinese are very sophisticated. you can't have them say we will have a trade war if you don't do it our way. a lot of it needs to be done in

secret. none of these guys have any experience. >> and what i was going to say to that point, it is sort of how trump behaves. this is the situation where you cannot solve a problem this way. >> yes, it's frightening. so we'll have back later in the hour. still ahead, virginia governor about that fight and his refusal to hand over voter data. your joints... or your digestion...

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the commission was launched by executive order to study improper voter conduct and what the president alems is fraud in federal elections despite the fact that instances are extremely rare. it is more likely an american will be struck by lightning than impersonate someone at the

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welcome back. that was the scene yesterday with senator ted cruz of texas who faced shouts from a crowd of people. at a 4th of july parade in a

remote town susan collins told the washington post that the only anyone wanted to talk to her about was health care. some senators are also hearing from their own governors, a number of whom have been very vocal about their concerns with the health care bills and any rushed time line. two of those governors from different sides of the aisle democrat terry from virginia and republican charlie baker of massachusetts recently wrote a joint letter on behalf of the national governor's association arguing for states to have enough time to review any health care bills. joining me now is one of those governors, the chairman of the national governor's association. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >> lest talk about health care. democrats as you know don't control the house. they don't control the senate. they don't control the white house. they have a losing special elections.

what influence, what weight does the democratic party have when it comes to trying to push back on health care? can they do anything? >> well, first of all public opinion like you just showed on that clip like you had before, people are outraged around the country. i think the message we are trying do do as governors -- heading up our sub committee, we sent a letter to the leader asking we need time to go through this plan. it will cut i mean cut health care benefits by $772 billion over ten years. this will be devastating to the virginia economy. ly lose 1.2 billion. governors, we are the ones that have to implement this plan. what you're seeing is republican and democratic governors coming together to get with their senators and saying do not vote for it. you're hurting your state as a

senator. you represent your state and as governor i'm telling my senator but for other states where they have republican governors you cannot pass this. it was done in secret. it will literally gut the program and at the end of the day it will hurt the seniors and hurt those with preexisting condition who can loos afford to be hurt today. it will be so expensive many people will lose their health care. >> to be fair ran on appealing health care. >> i think they try today say they will repeal health care. now we know the results. they repeal healthcare. $772 billion cut. millions of people will lose their health care. elderly citizens, you know, when you look at medicaid expenses, is elderly long term care,

elderly long-term care. what am i going to do throw these people out in the streets? what will i do with preexisting conditions? it was a nice talking point in the campaign. what they tried to convince americans that we will repeal and it will be better for you. now we know it will be bad for america and it will hurt millions and millions of americans. that's the box that they are in today. the rhetoric has hit the reality of governing and they are in a very tough spot. they need to work democrat and republicans in virginia. i have a very republican legislature. we work together on issues of education, on issues of transportation. people have to work together. washington is broken because washington will work together. >> we are pressed for time. let's talk a little bit about this commission, what the president calls voter fraud commission. he is saying that he is wondering what states have hide.

what's virginia have to hide? >> first of all, we are not handing this data over. it is personal information of individuals. to hand over commission which has no authority. the people involved with this commission are the poster children for voter suppression. we are not going use our data to try to knock people off voting rules. >> so you believe it is a voter suppression meeting more than anything else? >> absolutely. they have a history of doing this. we are not take ig virginia's personal data and handing it over. it's their data personal information. i'm not giving that to anybody. they have a history of voter suppression. we should make it easier for people to vote. 40 plus states have said we are not going to do it. president trump cannot believe hillary clinton got 3 million more voting than he did and he is trying to believe there are millions and millions who went

into the voting booth incorrectly. we do not have voter fraud in virginia. it doesn't exist in america. let's work together to make it easier for people to vote. i'm proud of all of the secretary of states who said you're not getting the data and you'll never get it. >> i never get to talk to you. so forgive me when i press you on this. you have been around politics. you are no doubt having conversations behind the scenes. who is the leader of the democratic party right now? >> i think there are many leaders of the democratic party. >> give me a name governor. >> i'll say the governors who have creating jobs, building a system that works. we create jobs. we build infrastructure. governors need to lead the way. i compliment the folks who are doing what they are doing.

we need some action out of washington to help us compete on a global basis. we are not seeing anything out of washington. zbl governor, you are a governor, are you talking about yourself? >> i love all of our governors we have today. >> i'm just confused. >> we have to -- >> i have asked a number of democratic parties this question over the past six, seven, eight, months. i can't get one name from anybody about who is leading the democratic party right now. >> i don't think there is one person today. i run the state of virginia today. that's what i got elected to do. 66% think we are heading the right direction. people on the national level, people have to worry about what they are elected to. i have to worry about the commonwealth. i have to tell you this, things

are not working in this country today. i just got back from my 28th trade trip. when you go abroad they are asking questions about trade, immigration policy. the trump administration has done nothing but make it harder for me to bring back. >> thank you so much for coming on, sir. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. shedding light, new that earhart survived and there's a photo that just may prove it. an? ready for some relief? xiidra is the first and only eye drop approved for both the signs and symptoms of dry eye. one drop in each eye, twice a day. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and unusual taste sensation. don't touch container tip to your eye or any surface. remove contacts before using xiidra and wait at least 15 minutes before reinserting. chat with your eye doctor

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welcome back. the story that has everyone talking today isn't north korea or russia or health care. it is a potentially block buster development in one of the most enduring mysteries. what happened to amelia earhart? they ahave a photo that shows that she survive add crash landing in the pacific ocean in 1937. the picture found in a formally top secret file in national archives and possibly taken by a u.s. spy shows a woman resembling amelia earhart. tom costello has more. >> in 1937 the japanese banned nearly all westerners. there are two kau cautions on

the dock. a man on the left and what appears to be a woman with short pants sitting on the edge. henry took the photo to facial recognition expert who first overlayed the photo with file photos of fred nunan. >> it is a very sharp receding hairline! the teeth, hair and nose all seem to match up. >> it is fairly convincing evidence this is probably nunan. >> the american sitting with hair back. they compared body measurements. again, striking similarlies. >> i usually go from not likely to likely to very likely to extremely likely. i would say this is very likely. >> wow. we are going have tom costello with us next to talk more about

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diving into a fascinating new development in the amelia earhart disappearance. tom, i have watched your today show piece. i have seen a bunch of hits on it throughout the day. every time i see that video overlaying nunan's face i am stunned. what more can you tell us about this and what else are we going to end up learning? >> of course there are skeptics who say the photo is too grainy, that you can't tell anything for sure. the body measurements of amelia earhart, from her trunk and under arm to under arm are all

very compelling. all of that is very compelling. what's even more compelling is she is sitting on a dock it would appear surrounded by locals. locals, and she is staring at this ship. that is the japanese merchant ship koshu and it is trailing something on a barge. they have blown that evidence up. what is on the barge, and they believe that it is a 38-feet piece of something. her plane was 38 feet long. but here's what makes this compelling. this is not coming out of the blue, this is coming after decades of people on the marshall islands saying that she crash landed in the marshall islands, was picked up by the japanese. specifically they have said for years by the koshu and that they took her eventually to sipan where she and noonan died in japanese custody. how they died? there's one report that noonan was beheaded, she may have died

of dysentary in a prison but the team unearthed a lot of evidence not only with interviews but this document and this photograph. >> tom, why now, though? why are we learning about this today and not ten years ago, five years ago? why today? >> listen, some of the history channel's timing is probably tied to the 80th anniversary of her disappearance. however, it is true that a former treasury investigator by the name of les kenny, who has been obsessed with the earhart drama for years has spent 15 years in his retirement looking for clues. he went to the national archives, couldn't find anything in a file marked amelia earhart. by the way, there is a catalog and one of the items in the catalog says a report on amelia earhart taken prisoner in the marshall islands, but that document is missing. but he did then start going through any photographic evidence of the marshall islands, because back then the united states was gathering photographs of all of these islands that they thought the

japanese were active in, because, of course, the japanese were rolling across the pacific at that time. and so this photograph was in a file marked marshall islands. it didn't say amelia earhart on it. had it, it might not have been in that file. but les kenny started going through hundreds of photographs with a microscope or magnifying glass and he discovered what he believes could be earhart and noonan. >> tom, hang on for a second, i've got the panel with me and john has a question for you. >> tom, setting aside the photograph for a minute, i was fascinated when you said that the u.s. government after the war didn't want to pursue this because it might upset u.s./japanese relations at a time when we were getting on good terms with them and trying to help them rebuild their society. might there not be some cable traffic or other documents in state department files maybe

that related to the macarthur occupation of japan or other relations with japan in the 10 or 15 years after the war that might shed light on this? >> let me be clear. i was asked why would the united states not have confronted the japanese with that photograph after the war or presented it, and i said among the theories is that the united states would not want -- may not have wanted to embarrass japan. but we don't know. we have no idea what happened post world war ii. however, i will tell you that the two-hour documentary on the history channel includes intercepted coded communications with the japanese. all of that will be laid out in their documentary on sunday. and those coded communications seem to suggest that they knew where amelia earhart was back in 1937. >> tom, this is beth fouhy. is that why amelia earhart and noonan were never heard from again? if they indeed did land and were

alive, there was never any effort to let them communicate with their families or anyone else? we're thinking that there was some sort of government involvement or conspiracy that kept them silent all these many years? >> right. so why would in theory, in theory, why would the japanese have taken them into custody? well, the theory goes because the japanese were involved in a buildup, a military buildup in the pacific at that time and they may have been convinced that she in fact was a spy. and the locals have said all along she is a spy, don't talk about this, we're taking her into custody. that's what the locals said that the japanese told them at the time. so if they believed that she was a spy, then they -- or they were afraid that she saw something she shouldn't have seen, they may have decided it was in their interest to take her back to sipan and not tell the world she was in their custody. >> tom, if the ship was towing her plane, wouldn't the plane still exist somewhere? >> no, because the plane was allegedly taken back to sipan, a

2,000-mile voyage, back to the big military base, and many witnesses have said that that plane was eventually scuttled and thrown into a big heap of wreckage after world war ii. and in fact they claim in that wreckage sits underneath the main airfield in sipan. >> and what's the deal with the stamps? >> so in the 1980s, the marshall islands even issued those stamps, you see right there. they were so convince end that this is fact, that has been what they have talked about for decades, those stamps show the plane landing in the marshall islands, the natives seeing it and the japanese ship koshu taking the plane away. so what's fascinating now about this photograph is it seems to cement the timeline and the narrative that's been going on for decades. marshall islanders have said for years she crash landed there. the japanese ship koshu picked her up, they took them to sipan and this photograph shows exactly that. we have reached out to the

japanese for comment. the minister of defense, the foreign ministry of the national archives all say they have no documentation to suggest they ever have amelia earhart in custody. >> we can keep talking about this for the rest of the show but i'm told we have to take a break. i'm sorry, susan, i talked over your questions. what an anchor monster i've turned out to be. guys, thank you very much. tom, thank you. after the break, some news today about the fbi's future and its past. stay with us. n't it time to letl you shine through? maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,... with reduced redness,... thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you're allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts...

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in case you missed it, there is still no director of the fbi. it's been 57 days since james comey was fired. 28 days since the white house named christopher wray as his replacement. today we finally have a timetable for when he will get a vote in the senate. his first hearing before the senate judiciary committee will be july 12th, one week from today. from the fbi's future to its past, in case you midssed it, i was one year ago today then fbi

director comey announced the findings into the investigation of hillary clinton's use of a personal e-mail system while secretary of state. comey's statement clinton erred in judgment but would not recommend charges. and that, as they say, is history. that's all tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." i'm chris jansing with msnbc live and we are following a lot of big news today, starting with president trump arriving in poland ahead of the g20 meeting this week just as that nuclear threat from north korea escalates. the u.s. condemning north korea's first intercontinental ballistic missile test launch tuesday. pentagon officials saying today, it's a weapon the u.s. has never seen pyongyang use before. it is a major escalation of north korea's nuclear weapons program. north korean state media said it traveled