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the way she's conducted herself. not so much for chris christie. thank you both for being with us. thank you all for watching. the "hardball" starts right now. >> high noon in happenburg. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. donald trump is facing some of the biggest tests of his presidency this week north korea tests firing a missile that could reach alaska. and a meeting with vladimir putin set for friday. this afternoon, air force one touched down in warsaw. on friday, the president heads to the will g-20 summit in happenburg, germany, and it is there that he will face the the most important meeting so far, face to face with putin. originally it was only going to be a brief informal chat in the
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hallway. yesterday it was upgraded to a formal bilateral meeting of the two presidents. president trump has been briefed repeatedly. his advisers have alerted him to the web of potential risks, complex issues and diplomatic snags. even his top aides don't know precisely what mr. trump will decide to say or do when he meets president vladimir putin. that's a quote. it comes at a precarious time. he is tunneled scrutiny of special counsel robert mueller as well as the senate and house committees. republicans say he should confront putin about russian interference in last year's election. can the president afford to play nice with putin? for months, president trump has expressed optimism that the relationship with russia could improve. >> if putin likes donald trump, i consider that an asset.
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not a liability. we have a horrible relationship with russia. as far as again, putin and russia, i don't say good, bad or indifferent. i don't know the gentleman. i hope we have a fantastic relationship. that's possible and it is also possible we won't. president putin called me up very nicely to congratulate me on the win of the election. and probably putin said, you know, he's sitting behind his zpeks he's saying, you know, i see what's going on in the united states. i follow it closely. it will be impossible for president trump to get along with russia because of all the punish he has with this fake story. probably putin assumes he won't be able to make deal with me because it is politically unpopular. we're not getting lane with russia at all. we may be at an all time low with russia. i'll see with putin, it would be fantastic if we got along with putin and with russia. >> anything president trump says
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or does is likely to be leaked of course. in may he met with the russia foreign minister. it was shortly after that that he fired comey. the fbi director. according to the "new york times," he told his visitors, i just fired the the director comey. i'm not under investigation. that's the start of the meeting with putin. where does he go from that? the director of national security at the third way and a former director. and the reporter for axios. howard, my friend, this is a big question. i think we have to say the last time they met was with kislyak and the foreign minister will have a will have a rove.
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now they are saying they say i can't be friendly with this guy because it will look like i'm on the take in the last election. where's the bar? can he be a great representative or has he boxed himself into being the one who can't succeed? >> he can't allow himself to be boxed in. russia can't win. i've traveled pretty extensively over the years. they can't win. the only way they can win is by having everybody else lose in democratic countries in western europe. >> they are playing a losing hand. and he is playing it by trying monkey around with the mechanics of western democracies. donald trump's number one mission is to protect the legitimacy of the united states, its rule of law, its
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constitution. he is in a way boxed this politically but he can't allow himself as president to behave that way. he has to be tough with putin. he has to say, look, i know what you're doing. you can't do it anymore. putin will come back and say you guys, you monkeyed around and trump has to have a comeback. he has to have a long game with putin. >> he has to punch putin in the face with this. putin must know it's coming. what comes next? if that doesn't come, i think trump will be laughed at. >> there's a bipartisan consensus you'd have to do. first you want to go after the hackers that messed with the election. >> personally. you want to go after organized crime that's putting money in putin's coffers and you want to stand with nato and make clear,
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we stand with our allies against russian aggression. that's the way it has been historically. >> you've been running democracy lessons around the world and you've the gone everywhere else. we're just fighting back with your own medicine. >> we want the people of the countries to decide. what you did was mess with our election. you were trying to suppress the ukrainian people. so we teach people how to be politicians. >> i would be stunned if donald trump punches putin in the face rhetorically. that would require him to have a fundamental change in world view between now and friday. he doesn't believe russia interfered in the election because he sees them, it is too much cognitive.
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>> do you agree? >> i agree with jonathan. i don't think he is going to have the guts or, as jonathan says, the cognitive discipline to do it. have you ever heard donald trump say a hawkish word about crimea? i don't believe he thinks russia needs -- the two key questions there, he doesn't believe the fundamental premise. >> do you think the american people care about crimea? no. they care about our elections. we're the snake. don't tread on me. >> they do need to care about what happens in ukraine. ukraine is the testing ground. that's russia practicing its techniques. they want to come back at us. our intelligence agencies have been very clear to say russia is coming back. if he doesn't make that
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statement -- >> here's where i disagree with you. where is had our national security tied into who owns crimea? i think we're lining up all the nato states, we've got hungary, the czech republic. that's fine. the war saw pact that recruited mexico, we worried about cuba. i'm going to stick back to american interests. if you want to score all these questions. screwing with our elections, give it a ten. i would give it a two. everything else is a one. >> i think we care about us. >> we also care about western europe. >> western europe. that's not crimea. >> i know. if you're going to defend article 5 in terms of mutual defense. it is cyber warfare and all that kind of stuff. the europeans, not only the american public but the european public will be looking for,
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trump playing the tough cop with putin in part because they don't want to. >> if we get too offensive around the russia perimeter, we'll push putin into his nationals craziness. he fights for crimea, he has the home court advantage. >> putin doesn't have the muscles. he has a depleted sxhilt trump doesn't want to confront him there. we don't want another ground war. so everyone has second that crimea is putin's. donald trump won't do anything substantive on that. the thing i'm looking for is the elections. >> they think of themselves as shrewd negotiators. putin, a former kgb officer who specialize in the what the
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russians call the political technology, the arch manipulator. putin brought his labrador, konni, a dog, to his first meeting with merkel other has a lifelong fear of dogs. i remember the first president bush making gorbachev go out on the water because he didn't like water. the worst waefrt day. the crazy tides and flooding. he said come meet me on my boat. is putin going to play, meet the dog? >> that's not what trump is worried about. >> he germs but he can go to warsaw first. part of what's going on is trump going to warsaw in part two. >> to stick it a little. >> how does that square with being pro russian? go to poland, the most anti-russian, anti-communism the
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country on the planet. >> the polish leader is less democratic than they used to be. it is a little of the tension there. poland is the lynchpin. politically they're having some changes in the way they view russia. >> is he a new forum guy? is he one of the good guys? or is he one of the old guard? >> i think he was one of the old guard. >> he is a polish nationalist but not as much of a democrat with a small d. >> what was that guy's name? >> i'll take polish leaders for 400. >> we remember. tomorrow president trump will meet with poland's president. according to media reports, they required are cheering crowds as part of the invitation. they plan to bus in groups from the provinces. trump who worries about his had
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crowd size must be saying, they got my number. big crowds. busing they will in. >> he loves had it. >> hey, mr. president, we're going to make you look good but we're going to let you know we're going to do it. >> i think will trump would have enjoyed the ap report. >> i don't think putting out the word there will be a phony crowd size. >> he'll take it as a compliment the government made the effort to get the crowd there. >> the best flattery is the phoniest flattery because it proves you have to do it. thank you. coming up, president trump's biggest test yet. north korea's incbm just succeeded. something president trump said would never happen on his watch. theon thing keeping war from breaking out is self-restraint. something this president is in short supply of. and i worry about mr. kim. plus, chris christie.
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was he the early trump? christie was trump before trump with no regard to political norms. he's down to 15% this bomb later. and he has the lowest numbers of any governor in the world. the he says nobody can go to my bench but i'm going. president trump continued his attack against media via twitter, have been. finally let me finish with this. this is "hardball." be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. before starting stelara® tell your doctor if you think you have an infection
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you can see it includes alaska there. that means pyongyang now has the ability to strike parts of alaska, part of the u.s., within range. this is pretty graphic and frightening. the missile they shot up in the air, if they shot it longitude naturally, it could have reached alaska. and donald trump just mocked had him. north korea just stated this. that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear women capable of reaching parts of the u.s. it won't happen. that was trump's word back in january. one report says that before president trump issued that tweet, president trump specifically warned him that they were working on a missile that could reach the mainland potentially armed with a nuclear women.
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acting for arasia. thank you for tell us. a lot of americans know there is a scare but not much more. >> if you can launch it right across the pacific, i guess they can get to 4,000, 4,500. how many more rocket thrust does that take. how hard is it to put a nuclear women in a warhead? >> it's hard. this is the key thing. it is hard enough -- >> could we have done it back in '45 when we attacked japan with a nuclear women? -- nuclear weapon? >> no. >> they can deliver it by airplane. >> so they can drop a nuclear women on seoul right right. >> you have air defense. it is not hard for them to do it. >> what does this tell us? i've watched, there to me, trump is a problem on many fronts, i can't think of an american president who has been able to deal with this problem. clinton traded in coal for
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nuclear power. w called on the axis of evil. obama is one of the smarter presidents we had and he didn't know how to deal with it. four presidents in a row trying to deal with a nuclear armed north korea. and we've gone through two or three generations of north korean leaders and nobody has solved the problem including trump. what do we do about it? it is not just trump. it's us. >> the problem is getting much more complicated. >> they're going to have the weapon. there's nothing we can do. >> everything we've done has been ineffective. what is really striking about trump, he doesn't seem to understand between dealing with politicians in washington and dealing with world leaders. there's an inside voice and an outside voice. there's a voice for diploma and when you're on the campaign trail and you're bombastic. >> the guy the hair cut. he has no critics around him. no sense of normal life. nobody will tell him you're a
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little weird today. this country will be incinerated if we ever use one. people say in the payments the reasons the north korea want the suicide bomb rational. they believe nobody will ever attack they will because it would be suicidal. but they have it as a weapon of response. >> i think this is the hard piece. trump had spent the first couple months of his presidency engendering support of the global leaders, he could be walking into the g-20 this week and work a unified position and help put more pressure on the koreans. he hasn't done that. he's wavering back and forth. we saw nikki haley tweet today. of course we can't do it alone. we need the south koreans is that the japanese. >> what would be our options? a surgical strike many north korea? is that feasible? >> it's feasible. but you have a thousand different options. 999 lead to general war in the
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korean peninsula. >> they attack south korea. >> exactly. hopefully our intelligence committee has a good understanding of how the north koreans are likely to respond in the event we need to strike. despite the inability to roll back the north korean nuclear programs, i think the course has to be diploma. there may have to be sanctions. i think you have to give the trump administration credit for secondary sanctions. i think we have to look at something beyond blaming china. if you're kim jong-un, he knows about trump, that everybody be as clownish as he is and as dramatic. suppose he says i can starve my people a couple more years, maybe a couple more decades but at the end, i'll have a nuclear weapon and flown menobody will mess with me. >> nobody knows what he's thinking. he is the only leader who is even more unpredictable than donald trump. >> why would he not want to be a
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nuclear power? >> he already has it. he can take it on a plane and drop it with a plane. >> i think we might see them coming. i'm serious. everything is military. serving parades and big missiles. that's his whole world. and flags. it is not about good consumer products. he just stands there. he wants to be treated like god. >> he wants attention. he wants dennis rodman to come over. >> they treat him like a deity. >> he can say, i have the ability to send a nuclear weapon across the ocean. >> what would a smart president do? >> first we have a little bit of time. they haven't been able to make the nuclear warhead to the icbm. secondly, there are limitations on what the chinese can do. they can do a bit more. it is important for them to not be as friendly on the guest and
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check programs. he needs the south koreans, the european union, he needs japanese. so beijing is saying, look, this is not just a problem from the united states and washington. the europeans are concerned and we need to work getting talks with the north koreans directly with the north koreans. >> why isn't china kerneled about this guy? limited rationality? >> i think china has made it very clear. >> they're still trading with him. china doesn't feel pressure the way they should be. >> why don't they say we don't want a nuclear armed north korea on our border? >> that's why i disagree with mark here. china is the only mading trade partner. they're not worried about striking the hand that feeds them. they're worried about them striking the united states.
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>> i'm worried about these two people. >> that's what you used to have. >> you're only 37. is that all your goal in life is? it will probably pend way if you even consider this. >> you had the ability to know there was a steady hand in washington, d.c. that was able to resolve the tense situations. we don't have that now. >> our response this afternoon, nikki haley's speech to say we'll go it alone if we have to. >> i'll never forget what they did to that young american man and the way they killed him. they didn't have to. wasn't a major infraction. it was not a major infraction. maybe five lashes with a wet noodle. >> wars have started for less. >> the way they treated that guy. it is horrible, what they did to that guy. up next, two photos of chris
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for most americans, this is first day back at work after the weekend. at the beach. that wasn't the case for a lot of new jersey residents whose states and parks were ordered closed by himself, governor chris christie this friday night after new jersey went into a government shutdown. apparently the governor didn't think those rules applied to himself. christie and his family were spotted -- these are real pictures. enjoying time on a state beach that he had ordered closed to the public. he went out there on the beach with his family, rather regally and sat on the beach that nobody else was allowed to go on to. he was excore '80 by the press. >> that's the way it goes. i think i've proven i don't care about political optics. i care about right and wrong.
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i don't apologize for it. i don't back away from it and i think my poll numbers show that i don't care about political optics. >> they should do. they said they found it disturbing, arrogant and even a disgrace. and all of this arrest the quinnipiac poll shows that he had the worst poll numbers of any governor in 20 years. >> i can tell you what i would. do i certainly wouldn't be at the beach and a park that was closed. it is beyond words. insensitive. >> you've got your game face on as always. let me ask you about christie. is he the leading indicator of donald trump? is his over the top behavior
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starting with his wise ass caller. i liked the foibling but then it became the real bullying and not caring and put flagg dam to this i'm going to the beach. what is he up to? >> michael steele, the national committee chairman said he was trump before trump in terms of the new jersey governor. i think if you look at the republican party, you think back to the obama era. 2010, 2011. he was clashing with the teacher's unit. the president is also a consequence of that same impulse in the gop base. >> do you remember when corzine ran against him? he ran a terrible ad with. the big white shirt looking very overweight. he said that's a cheap shot. fat shaming this guy. i thought he would beat him. then he came off like ed koch.
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i liked that too. you know what? he is really a bully. >> it played well for the first year or two. then when he randal, he was talking about kicking hillary clinton's you know what and almost locking her up as well. you're right. he played a bully and then i became a bully. >> it worked until 2013. >> he went to the beach with president obama, hands together, almost, a buddy buddy system at the beach. >> that was the other side. >> that showed very smart optics. >> he got 60% in fundraising in 2013. it all came down to the bridge. he had 60% of the vote and then the bridge closing scandaled happened. >> it's been his staple of governing for 20 years. >> unbenoenls to everybody, difference guy out.
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there i was in overalls and a hat but i was the guy working thes cones out there. you are not serious with that question. >> get the hell off the beach in asbury sxark get out. you're done. it's 4:30. you've maximized your danietan. get off the beach. >> your rear end will get thrown in jail, idiot! >> sit down is that shut up. >> nonof your business. i'll ask you where you send your kids to school. don't bother me about where i send mine. >> "the new york times" columnist had a warning for chris christie. make to mistake for all their flamboyant pugnaciousness, the christies and the trumps of the political world are chasing adulation every bit as much as their peers are. maybe more so. they're just taking a deliberately muddier approach. if they don't get there, they're more likely to wear their failure as a badge of honor and to dig in with destructive
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arrogance. he said i don't need your liking. and did it work. >> he came to believe his own press. everyone fell in love with him in the beginning. he said i can keep doing. this it doesn't matter. i can be a jerk. and donald trump when he ran for president, the people around him told me, part of the game plan, the word i can't say on tv, to be a jerk because they thought that was part of the appeal. the big difference was, he was planning to be the head of the republican tea party tribe. christie had to survive in a democratic state. it played well nationally but not in new jersey. >> the specifics really matter. he's been a pugnacious person his whole life. >> as governor, you have the burden of shutting down on your watch. he goes to the island beach state park. a beach closed to the public
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because of the shutdown and acts like it is a private beach. the specifics really turned off a lot of people in new jersey. he is already at 15% approval. who knows where it goes? >> is he trying to make lemonade out of a lemon? all right. they hate me. i'll glory in it. >> i watched the press conference with him monday night and he was saying things on the record that were interesting. he said it would be a news story, these were his words, fond there was a 25-year-old blond sitting next to me on the beach. the rest of this is nonsense. he said he wasn't there getting sun. the pictures clearly show he was relaxing on the beach, at least for a few minutes. the specifics matter. it is not just christie pugnaciousness. it was different level. >> so interesting the. if he had been on the ticket a couple times ago, i thought he would have done well in his early going. if he had gone throughout when
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he was hot in the beginning. >> almost landed on trump's ticket. >> and republican donors were begging him to run in the last two elections. >> did he well for a while and i think he pushed it. >> you think back to 2011. they were all begging him to run. >> in the end, the one great thing is you need the people. thank you. >> not at the beach. >> you're pushing my metaphor. >> up next, the most important trims of his presidency. donald trump spent his time on twitter. why does he do this stuff? how your clothes smell can say at lot about you.
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sflmt the fake media is trying to silence us but we will not let them. we know the truth. the fake media tried to stop us from going to the white house. but i'll president and they're not. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was president trump on saturday night in an event to honor veterans in washington. the president spent a good part of the weekend attack the media on twitter. even before tweeting a video, preparing to punch. he tweeted the fake and fraudulent news media is working hard to convince republicans and others i should not uses social media. but remember, i won. the 2016 election with interviews, speeches and social media. i had to beat fake news and did not. he added my use of social media is not presidential. it is modern day presidential. make america great again. and the dishonest media will never keep fruss accomplishing
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our objectives on behalf of the american people. america first. >> you're laughing. how can we not laugh? >> i'm laughing for you mangling my title. >> it's politics. what do you make of trump's use of the weekend? people get butterflies as we say in sports. he has a very important week. now he is about to meet batouty in a high moon situation. instead of dealing with homework, he is going after us. >> that's the point. not about whether or not he's nervous but why is this the thing he's doing? and you will hear his defenders say, people can do more than one thing at once. can walk and chew gum. but we don't hear from my
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reporting and others, that he is doing this between books. this seems to be something he is obsessed with on a personal level. not even on the level of trying to rally his base. >> i see a president who is in self-preservation mode. this is something, you can go to trump party, florida, ohio, his supporters say the same thing. he's an outsider and the establishment that the fake news is a part, has it for the president. i think it is a strategy. not very effective but his way of trying to neutralize coverage of him that isn't critical. >> i think it is a strategy. he sees something he doesn't like on tv in the morning and he can't help but tweet about it. to plant a shadow of a doubt, a seed of doubt in people's minds
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that, to say it so many times, repeat it so many times. when you hear something on cnn or you read something in the "new york times," you think to yourself. make it's not true. >> let's talk about the way the average person gets their news. they listen to the radio in the car. they may pick up local news. like wtop. i think it is am. they get local news. their local news. >> the rocky mountain news ceased to exist, that's my home town. >> their local affiliate. the weather, whatever is going on in crime. if it bleeds, it leads. that's what they consider the news. they may have a payment that has more than wire service company but most don't. who are they angry with? they're basically living off
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local tv news. and the radio they turn on. i don't see the end me in front of them. why do they blame the media? they listen to local radio stations they like. where is this enemy that trump is battling? this dragon he is fighting every night? >> that's the point. in the same way -- >> they don't read the "new york times." >> people don't like congress but they like their local representative. fake news is palace imaginary thing out there. >> it is the so-called elite media. >> which they don't read. ever they ever read? i don't know who the they you're talking about is. plenty of real americans read the paper. is he caught up with a fight with gleek and joe or something? >> there's a lot on this president's plate. and we know there is a lot he
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hasn't done. a lot of unfilled appointments in the executive branch. a lot of things, he's headed to the g-20 summit. he tweeted a lot about it but he tweeted more about the media. so there is the question, is he distracted? >> and what does the rest of the developed world think when he spent the weekend tweeting a goofy video of someone fighting cnn or getting into a spat with a tv morning talk show host? what does lank merkel, macron, what does vladimir putin think? >> we'll be back. up next, these three will tell me something i don't know. you might not ever just stand there, looking at it. you may never even sit in the back seat.
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>> senate republicans are, the key constituents are governor who's have a lot of issues with the healthcare plan. mainly because of the cuts to medicai medicaid. >> he's worried about that. >> how about susan collins? she apparently only heard from people who said, keep up the fight. exactly. >> speaking of the senate, you may have heard that democratic candidates have been coming out of wood works. republicans having the opposite problem. the congresswoman from missouri they announced over the holiday she won't do it. she just loves being a member of congress. a couple of high profile republican passed on high profile races which tells you they may be thinking there is something in the water. >> on the other side of the
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spectrum, i cannot believe, make a list of how many people, men and women, running for the presidency next time, democrats? it was 18 we came up with. this will be a full deck of -- >> still smaller than the republican field in 2016. full employment for reporters. >> i cannot believe the number of people who want to run. adam schiff is on the list. >> i believe that. >> thank you. coming up, the photo that some says solved the 80-year-old mystery of what happened to amelia earhardt. now. i have chronic dry eye caused by reduced tear production due to inflammation. so i use restasis multidose. it helps me make more of my own tears, with continued use, twice a day, every day. restasis multidose helps increase your eyes' natural ability to produce tears, which may be reduced by inflammation
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japanese military. >> 25 years ago the world's most famous -- >> does this photograph found by history channel investigators in the national archives prove amelia earhardt and fred noonan ended up in japanese custody? >> we discovered that amelia earhardt survived her final flight and landed safely in the marshall islands. >> you're confident. >> yes. >> it was marked marshall islands, jaluit. on the left, a man standing next to a sign. there on the dock what appears to be a woman with short hair wearing pants like earhardt. kent gibson overlaid the photo of the man with file photos of navigator noonan. >> the hairline is the most distinctive. >> the nose is very prominent.
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>> he then compared body measurements of the previous will figures of earhardt. >> i usually go from not likely to very likely to extremely likely. i would say this is very likely. something else. the wol on the dock is sharing at the ship which is towing a barge something measuring 38 feet long. the same length as earhardt's plane. for decades. they have said the plane crashed and the japanese took it away. also, this catalogue referencing 170 pages including information that earhardt was a prisoner in the marshall islands. >> they said they have no evidence of amelia ear hart ever in their custody. >> we believe the japanese government knew she was in the
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marshalls and in japanese custody. >> while not everyone is convinced, investigators say they'll reveal more in the documentary including evidence that earhart and noonan died in a japanese prison camp in sai n saipan. when we return, let me finish with trump watch. go, go! [ rock music playing ] have fun with your replaced windows. run away! [ grunts ] leave him! leave him! [ music continues ] brick and mortar, what?!
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spirit of the old west lives and the legends of the old frontier. no greater drama of that period is the reckoning at high noon between two men carrying the highest stakes of all. in two days donald trump meets vladimir putin in a head to head that will display all the grit and wit and power either man can bring to this historic showdown. one man could come out looking good. the odds on both men standing afterwards is highly unlikely. there will be a winner and the worst word trump ever heard, a loser. russia threw mud in our face and laughed at it. what will donald trump do? will he try to charm the kgb aero? will he try to win him? a couple hours of nice company? is he going to show how tough he is to this man who has killed rivals? i doubt it. what might work is a simple basic statement of what mosts americans want our president to say. we will put up with a lot of countries who leave us alone but
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will not forgive or forget one who screws with our democracy. mr. trump needs to say this whether he wants to or not. his silence will be viewed as weakness over there, unpatriotic, agency it should be seen, here at home. that's "hardball" for now. thank you for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight --? putin has done an amazing job with our president has not been able to match. >> ahead of his meeting with vladimir putin. >> it's pretty clear -- >> new fears from inside the white house about what donald trump will say to putin. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails. >> new evidence that investigators are focusing in on. alleged trump will