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earlier this week during a beach shutdown. his approval rate was at 15% and a lot of people saying he has to political future. but this is a real headline. maybe a sports future. he will audition next week on wfan here in new york. have a great weekend. "hardball" starts right now. vlad to see you! let's play "hardball." good evening. for months president trump has spoken on about vladimir putin, calling them stable mates. and all about the relationship they've enjoyed entinter%ed wit denials they've ever met. you figure. the two men actually meet and it
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is still a bit murky about what actually happened. the meeting, of course, did happen and earlier in the day two shared handshake at a g-20 conference meeting. donald trump once made this comment about it. >> i think i get along very well with vladimir putin. people say what do you mean? i think i would get along very well with him. >> today secretary of state rex tillerson said there was a very positive chemistry between two men and before that, president trump expressed optimism. let's watch that. >> president putin and i have been discussing various things and i think it is going very well. we've had some very good talks. we'll have a talk now and that will continue. we look forward to a lot of very positive things happening. for russia, for the united states and everybody concerned. it is an honor to be with us. thank you.
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>> had the elephant in the room was russia's effort to meddle in had last year's election. >> the president opened the meeting with president putin by raising the concerns of the american people regarding russia's interference in the 2016 election. they had a very robust and lengthy exchange on the subject. the president pressed president putin on more than one occasion regarding russian involvement. president putin denied such involvement, as i think he has in the past. the two leaders agreed though that this is a substantial hindrance in the ability of us to move the russian-u.s. relationship forward. >> secretary tillerson said the russians also asked for evidence and ultimately the president determined it was important to,
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quote, go forward with other matters. for his part, the russian foreign minister lavrov said the president accepted that he didn't interfere in the election. >> translator: president trump has said that he has heard clear declarations from mr. putin that russian government has not interfered in the elections, and he accepts the things that mr. putin has said. >> the white house denies that. for more on the big meeting, i'm joined by kelly o'donnell. did president trump dus accuse the russians? >> reporter: given the fact president trump has not fully embraced the idea that vladimir putin is the master mind behind the cyber hacking of 2016, it might be surprising that right out ofgate he raised the question in their two-hour meeting. according to tillerson who said
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that president trump repeatedly pressed putin and putin denied any involvement. russia's take on it is different saying that president trump acknowledged there wasn't enough evidence and that president putin was not responsible. that's the surprising part. a differing view. they did agree to keep working on this issue and at the state department level, that would be important to keep the conversation going. >> thank you. i'm joined now by the "washington post" columnist, eugene robinson, clint watts and phillip rucker. let me go with gene on this. complain we, me, too, are naive thinking that president trump who many of us think that president trump may have had a role in colluding with the russians, would be vigorous in interrogating the guy he was clueding with about whether he was colluding. there was a certain absurdity to our hopes. >> when secretary of state tillerson says the president
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pressed president putin, i wonder about the use of the word pressed. how hard did he press? in fact, president trump has made clear time and time again, it could have been anybody. >> some 400 pound person in bed. >> the other day, maybe it was russia but a lot of people do the same thing. so he has said repeatedly that this is all just an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. he sees it as an attempt to delegitimize his own election as president. so i don't think he will ever get fully behind the intelligence committee's assessment that yeah, russia did a very bad thing. and a very menacing thing meddling with the electoral process of the united states. call me naive but i don't think donald trump will ever get
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behind him. >> this thing about bob mueller trying to figure out what he can learn. the guys investigating this whole matter. especially the u.s. role in this. >> did we get anything today? >> i don't know. the thing that stuck out to me in tillerson's statement was that trump pressed president putin on the american people's concern. we don't know that he has a personal concern about it. but trump knew he had to say something. his advisers had been briefing how many this meeting with putin. there was extraordinary pressure in washington from senators for both parties for him to conthe front putin on the matter and he had to do something. >> the modern kgb is watching all this. to me trump, as i said the other night, not trump. vladimir putin. he knows everything. vladimir putin knows what the russians did. he knows what role he had in approving it and watching over and it operating it and he knows what role the americans played
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in it, if there was any collusion. he knows it all the. for the president of the united states to say my people back home are concerned about this. what can you tell us? it seems so idiotic. wait a minute. you know all about it, brother. you were helping me. >> both parties got what they wanted. trump got elected and putin help him. the outcome on this, they want to move past this so quickly to what they have is a shared agenda. what i find strange for me today, when i listen to tillerson's explanation of what happened in the meeting and lavrov's, i'm more likely to believe lavrov's version of the the vaenls. he said the american people are concerned about you meddling in the election. wasn't that he was concerned. also, lavrov said that some people are exaggerating in the u.s. that's what he quoted trump as saying. they said the same thing. what is most concerning is they want to move past it. so that leaves the door open for
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putin. putin will move forward until he has stopped. until he's resisted. he doesn't have to meddle if trump wants in terms of foreign policy. >> i want to get to the strange murkiness of this allison wonderland experience. let's take a look at the history of what trump has said about his relationship with vladimir putin coming into this meeting. this is the first first face to face meeting, have been. >> i do have a relationship. and i can tell that you he is very interested in what we're doing here today. >> vladimir putin. have you ever met the guy? >> i met him once. >> i was in russia. i was in moscow recently and i spoke indirectly and directly with president putin who could not have been nicer. >> have you met vladimir putin? >> yes. >> one time, yes. a long time ago. got along great, by the way. >> i got to know him very well because we were both on 60 minutes. we were stable mates.
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we did very well that night. >> i never met putin. i don't know who he is. he said one nice thing about me. he said i'm a genius. what do i have to get involved with him? i've never spoken to him. i know nothing about him other than he will respect me. >> i have no relationship with putin. >> if you have no relationship with putin yrgs did you say in 2013, i do have a relationship. in 2014 -- >> he has said nice things about me over the years. >> you have to do this. this is to me, i don't care how big a trump guy or woman you are, you have to now recognize when you watch that montage that facts mean nothing to him. he will say one thing on one occasion. a good buddy, stable mates, whatever that is, direct, indirect, all this about the relationship. then he throws his arms apart and says never met the guy. don't who know he is. that doesn't bother his supporters? >> it's like the on so many issues. >> but this one.
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he's meeting with the other nuclear super power and we can't get it straight if this is their first meeting. not from him. >> their first face to face meeting. >> that's what a meeting is. a meeting is a meeting. one thing stood out is how long. >> i don't know how you can say that you met him? oh, yeah. he said nice things about me. that's not a meeting. does trump -- theyer in met before, right? we know that. >> and it goes to the circumstances of the meeting today. this is where the president's lies, conspiracies, false accusations, start to collapse in on him. now you see secretary of state tillerson has to give an accounting of that meeting. he was the only one in there from the american side who can do that. and we don't have any faith. in because just yesterday president trump cast doubt on the allegations regarding russia. and we see from the mon taj you just saw, he never says the same
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thing twice. so in a bizarre way, we're going to russia to get a take on what happened. >> we're counting on the russians for the truth. this is an absurdity. >> they're the only ones who had pictures of the last one. >> the contrast in that meeting. i agree. it is very weird and unpress denlth. the president whose words the can't trusted. but in that meeting, you had donald trump, total neophyte at foreign policy, rex tillerson. a billion-dollar oil and gas contracts but a neophyte at diplomacy. you have putin who has been doing this for decades. you have lavrov who has been foreign minister since 2004. it was kind of a mismatch of diplomatic skill sflfl what did you make of the translator? his english was really bad. he was talking without any articles or pronounc counts.
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had there wouldn't be leaks if other officials in the meeting. in a normal bilateral meeting -- >> let's talk about the one thing. there's some hope that i've had, i'm one of those people who did see some hope in some of the peripheral questions like ending stupid wars. cutting are it in syria. saying the it had to go. it was very clear. more clear than we've heard from trump. are we going to take sides in some clear way? >> i hope. so i think echoing mcmaster or the national security staff who is very strong and very sharp. they've been fighting our wars for 15 years. what you saw was some way to end the syrian conflict. i think we do have hope. one thing about president trump.
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he wants wins. he wants to take credit for things. if we have really strong hands, mcmaster and mattis, which we do, they can devise something that can give the president a win. whether he understands it or not, doesn't matter. we can move the ball forward. it is really the cause of a lot of the international terrorism. >> it's friday so let's have some good news. we're always thinking about a trigger, a crazy thing causes two egos to go at each other. in a street corner situation. he somebody is dising somebody. i watch trump and putin, i worry that we get ourselves into a situation fairly soon where one would feel they have to show some strength and all of a sudden we're in a local fighting war and a big war. they did seem to both be trying to avoid that today. >> i think they're totally trying to avoid that. i think putin thinks there's a
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lot he can get out of trump. i don't know what the specifics are. but putin seems to think he can work trump to achieve his natural ends. trump seems to feel the same about putin. on the assad question. that's not what you heard from the russian. >> it is not worth a nuclear war. i do like, i will find the silver lining. as murky as it was about their role in our elections, it didn't look line they're in a fighting mood. >> both sides did get something out of today. there was a cease fire announced. in one portion of syria. that's something that trump can point to as diplomatic win for him and putin got relevance. he got to be on par and equal as the president of the united states for two and a half hours
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in that meeting no other leader has had that at the g-20. >> thank you. coming up, just hours before his big meeting with putin, trump tweeted out a bizarre attack on the former clinton he campaign manager jon podesta saying everyone at the g-20 is talking about why pod dlaeft refused to give dnc server to the fbi and the cia. all the world leaders talking about jon podesta's server. we'll have him call us to tell us what that crazy moment was about. plus, playing chess with putin. what's the end game? and the meeting with the president of mexico. what ever happened to the big beautiful wall that was promised? finally, let me finish with trump watch. this is "hardball" where the action is.
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talking about why john podesta refused to give the dnc server to the fbi and the cia. disgraceful! what came just hours before the face to face meeting with vladimir putin, the man whose intelligence say ordered the hacking. he was on the road trip to respon respond. get a grip, man. the russians committed a crime. maybe you might try to find a way to mention that to president putin, dude. get your head in the game. you're representing the u.s. in the g-20. i'm joined by john podesta. thank you for pulling over to the side of the road to respond. what do you think? have you got any back ground about why trump, about to face most important meeting since he's been in office, meeting with the other nuclear super power and he's talking about
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what did or didn't happen months ago. >> it is totally amazing. i think my tweets reflected my view. which is how could you imagine sitting there, preparing for one of the most important meetings you'll have on the world stage, both bilateral with putin and more particularly, at the g-20 summit, and be on the phone and tweeting about me and all of it is wrong. >> continuing word server came up with hillary clinton. what is this about the dnc server -- the cia would never ask for something domestically. >> it is illegal for the cia to make that request. i don't know what he's talking about. i had nothing 22nd the dnc. i was the chair of the clinton campaign. i was certainly never asked by the fbi and i don't know anything about what the dnc did but they said we fully cooperated with the requests the fbi made.
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this guy is unhinged. and i think he is under so much pressure from this russia investigation. when he is in the corner, all he does is he strikes back and he doesn't care about whether anything is true or not true. they made a big deal of the fact that he raised the topic with putin. but you know, if you look at what transpired, i think taking the best case from secretary tillerson, he said he raised it. they decided maybe it was an intractable problem. so both countries ought to move on. and forget about it. so i don't know, that much pressure and prime minister lavrov who was also in the meeting, said trump said that even though this has been going on for months, that no facts have been presented. not withstanding that 17
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agencies have said that it did happen. and he semied president putin's assurances that the russians haven't been involved. i think he was playing really a sucker game with respect to putin. it just gave putin another chance to deny it. >> i'm thinking about the complexity. there we have lavrov, the foreign minister. it includes kislyak, the ambassador to the u.s., who has been in all these meetings with jared kushner and michael flynn. he knows everything that trump may have done in colluding with the russian efforts. and it is all there. we're asking the president of the united states to ask putin to tell us the role that putin played, and by implication telling us the role that trump played. we keep hoping for a perry mason moment where one of them will
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say, okay, here's what happened. and we have bob mueller trying to figure it out honestly. >> the last time the president met privately with lavrov, he was gloating that he had the day before fired james comey saying they had taken pressure off him. until one leaked a memorandum of the meeting to the media. and then they didn't denial it. and so you can't really believe anymore what, particularly the white house press office puts out, what happened in a private meeting. they rarely come forward with the facts. so yeah, i guess he raised it in a way that said, do you wanted to respond and he said i deny it and they moved on. the other thing that ignores is the russians are continuing. they were at i in the french election. they're at it in the german
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election. this is a very serious threat to democracy. >> don't speculate more than you have. to do you believe at the russians played a significant role in affecting the results of the election? >> look. i think they clearly were trying to. as the intelligence community predicted. i think they kept the e-mail issue alive for the last month. i think the combination of that and jim comey reopening the investigation and then quickly closing it, i think there was a lot of harmonic convergence. the other thing that's less covered is how much the russians were actively spreading fake news through their trolls and automated robots to push in social media the fake news, the lying conspiracy into the blood
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stream of the american politics. that's what they do in other countries. it is what they do in the u.s. it is a very serious matter and it should be taken by our government. unfortunately, our government is led by someone -- >> i'm sure when you go to bed at night, you say, i can't believe we lost to that guy. john podesta. thank you for taking time. i'm joined now by the political reporter and the msnbc an list as well. this is bizarre. more than a side bar. the mentality of the united states going into a meeting with the world leaders and he is trying on trash an old argument and john podesta was never accused of anything.
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there was nothing by the cia or anybody. >> it tells you where his head was hours before his meeting with putin. and i'm normally not of the belief the president tweets strategically. i think he is thinking and feeling what he's thinking at the moment. he knows that the hacking is going to come up, i do think this was an incident where he believes this is a good talking the point for him. moving away from what the russians did and moving it back to the democrats. >> this won't make the front pages of the paper. >> i don't know that it was something for them. i think he knows it will be a hard conversation. i'm not saying correctly but he thinks this is a good talking point to distract from the real issue. >> what do you think the world thinks? the real meeting, it has never happened before. both ways. what does world think?
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nursing an old wound, a stupid fight that never actually happened. over hillary's server or something. i guess, it plays domestically to the extent that it does, it plays to his base. it is similar to his saying not all 17 intelligence agencies agreed with the finding that russia meddled in the election with the intention of helping him, or suggesting barack obama choked is that didn't do enough. on the world stage, i think it is pretty puzzling and i don't think it will have an effect of making putin feel off guard. if that was in fact part of goal. it clearly is. something that he's obsessed with. and he was getting a lot of pressure. from his own aides and the body
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pold, to raise the election hacking. >> he saw dr. strangelove, he must be thinking about the precious bodily fluids, the weirdness of there guy to have these things on his mind when he should be thinking about other things. up next, what was putin hoping to get from trump? did he achieve his goal? they got to sit together and they have the little man spreading. see that? i no longer live with the uncertainties of hep c. wondering, what if? i let go of all those feelings. because i am cured with harvoni. harvoni is a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. it's been prescribed to more than a quarter million people. and is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who have had no prior treatment with 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured
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you're looking at a live picture from hamburg, germany, where police continue to clash with the protesters. earlier today protesters set cars on fire and threw gasoline bombs at police. nearly 200 officers were injured, as were dozens of protesters and more than 70 demonstrators were arrested. angela merkel condemned the violent demonstrations, calling they will unacceptable. in all, more than 20,000 police officers are on duty in hamburg. back to "hardball." in the grand skecheme of things, we don't care who is the head of the united states. we know what will happen. in this regard, even if we wanted to, it wouldn't make sense for to us interfere.
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>> that was of course russian president vladimir putin denying his country's interference in the 2016 election during last month's megyn kelly. well, putin made a similar denial to president trump. he has repeatedly denied it calling it hysteria. >> translator: for me, this is just amazing. you've created a sensation out of nothing. and out of the sensation, you turn it into a weapon of war against the current president. this is, just, you people are so creative over there. good job. your lives must be boring. >> well, putin may think america's concerns are overreaction but he has his own interests in mind. among they will, getting rid of u.s. sanctions imposed. the first came over crimea in 2014 and more sanctions
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following meddle into our 2016 election. in not a article published thursday, putin called such sanctions nothing but mask product text i. we believe the advantages not only doomed to fail but also run counter to the g-20 principles of cooperation in the interests of all countries. as a foreign affair expert and person focused on it, forget all the clownery, that's not the right word. trump and fighting with john podesta and all the theatrics, what got done today in terms of the world and its future? >> i think today it was a big deal. it was a very dangerous point in the u.s./russian relations that reminded all of us about the cold war. there was a meeting of the two countries. they came with a lot of baggage, both of them.
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but managing to have dialogue about syria, russian hacking, to begin to have the conversations that are necessary is important. this was something that donald trump very controversially said through the campaign last year, he wanted to do. today he did it. and as near as i can tell, the results of that are generally positive. >> what i worry about is a regional situation like syria leading to a war. we've had that since world war one. that one thing can lead to another with. egos involved, it is a more severe threat. did you have the feeling faye we're not at the edge of any brinksmanship? >> what i can tell you, based on my reporting, i was in syria a week ago. this agreement today reached out of secret negotiations between the u.s. and russia to deconflict forces. after the shootdown of the syrian fighter jet about three
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weeks ago, it looked like we were at a very dangerous flash point. our gentles began talking to their generals. they moved to this area of southwest syria where the deal today, announced today, focuses. they've talked about a lot of additional steps. if we're ever going to help the syrian people get out of their nightmare, this is what has to happen. there was a lot of foundation work done here by secretary tillerson. >> are we going to be able to eliminate isis on the ground this new deal? with the russians? >> this deal allows the u.s., russia, and everybody else, including the syrian regime, to focus on get rid of isis. isis is already on the run. what i heard was this campaign is going so much faster than we
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expected. the one thing they're worried about is that isis could collapse so quickly that refugees will have nowhere to go. there will be no provisions made for them. isis is finally really on the run. in the three years that the u.s. has been pushing isis back, working with its partners, how many americans have been pushed in syria and iraq? answer, five. a different model than the one we followed in iraq with such disastrous effect. >> what about the, do you have any sense, there is any resolution as to the russian involvement in our campaign last year? >> i don't have a sense there's any resolution. >> if wrii were putin, sticking to donald trump, i would say, donald. you know all about. you were helping us. why didn't he say that? >> intelligence officers don't reveal the nature of it.
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anything putin would say about what happened in our election, i wouldn't take seriously. >> would you believe the dossier is true? >> i'm waiting to find out. we have an investigation by robert mueller that will tell me and tell you whether it is true. but for me to make a guess, i would rather, to be honest, wait for the people who have evidence. >> if the dossier is true and all its gross details, would putin know all of it? >> putin has unusually tight control of his intelligence services. not just because he is a former kgb officer. >> he would be looking at the movies and the texts and everything. >> we have reported in the "washington post" that putin personally ran the operations that was the meddling in our election. whatever there was, putin knows about it. up next, president trump
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welcome back to "hardball." president trump had an opportunity to show case his diplomatic skills in meetings with a variety of world leaders all of the eyes were on his first face to face with putin. according to secretary of state putin -- >> the president opened the meeting with president putin by raising the concerns of the american people regarding russian interference in the 2016 election. they had a very robust and lengthy exchange on the subject. the president pressed president putin on more than one occasion
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on russian involvement. president putin denied such invol involvement as he has in the past. the two leaders agreed this is a substantial hindrance in the ability of us to move the u.s.-russian relationship forward. >> i agree with that. they said after the meeting that president trump semis putin's denial. let's bring in the "hardball" round table. margaret carlson is a columnist for bloomberg view. let's talk about the big thing today. that meeting, did you get anything out of it? trump apparently said, a lot of people back home are worried about you screwing with the election. the russian foreign minister said, okay, you've second it didn't happen. is that it? >> it's interesting that
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secretary tillerson put it in the words of the american people and not in the federal government. he said the american people are concerned about russian election interference but didn't say it was a priority of the administration. >> dump it on the table here. that's what it was like. >> a critical thing of what happens next. when president putin denied they had any interference in the election, did president trump push back on that? did he say -- >> tillerson says he brought it up a number of times. i would think that he would have said didn't happen would be enough. if he, did did he say, i told you it didn't happen? this is a little high school again involving trump and bringing up that attack on john podesta. we just had him on the road trim out west. it is childish. >> he tweeted in the morning, blaming the victim. >> blaming podesta for being he hacked by the russians. >> and the day before, he said nobody is really sure who did it.
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so that fish, the vivid fish you have on the table, trump doesn't want to eat it either. trump is vest in the continuing to deny if not obscure that russia hacked the election. if he admits it, it casts a shadow on his victory over hillary clinton and he would have to do something about it. i think he did bring it up. his aide. you'll look like a weak guy if you don't but then he was happy to drop it. >> you look at all the man spreading. i've never seen guys sit like that. like they're both trying to be jocks. i've never seen a meeting last so long and have so little product. after it was over, plaumelania to come in and say let's finish. >> i think you made great points but i think there's more than meets the eye. i think there's product. diplomacy without force is a symphony without instruments.
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if he racesed the issue, that's great. what consequences did he bring? as far as we know, there were non. tillerson intimated there's a cyber working group which is the equivalent of letting the fox into the hen house. >> sitting alongside the mexican president, trump said he still wants mexico to pay for the wall. it's insane. let's watch. >> do you still want mexico to pay for the wall? >> well, that said, the white house official position read out from their private bilateral meeting included zero mention of the wall. when they got to business, he never talked about it. president trump ran on the notion that he would build a wall and mexico would have to pay for it. let's watch that in action. >> promise we're building the wall and mexico will pay for the wall. >> mexico will pay for the wall. and i think they'll ends up being very happy to do so. >> yesterday, the top person,
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president of mexico, said we will never, ever pay for that wall. and the press called me up. and they said calderon, the top person, he said he won't pay. he won't pay for it. do you know what i said? i said the wall just got ten feet higher. >> why does he do this? >> it is a response. this is a person who doesn't -- >> there's never going to be a wall. the mexicans won't possibly pon it. >> it is about political rhetoric. bits scoring points. >> will we have some morning a friday when nothing else is going on. he will drop what he did like with kenya, we're not building the wall. move on. >> i think he may be forced to. kellyanne conway and the president's representatives like to say, he keeps his promises so that rush limbaugh can cut some
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is speeding along with its desire to become the first sanctuary state with the california values act, which is an effort to stop, quote, the trump deportation machine. >> let me go to patrick. >> a big surprise, chris. the diplomats i talked on are not talking about john podesta or the e-mails. they're talking about donald trump has not -- >> i don't understand this. we don't have deputy secretaries of state. we don't have ambassadors. we don't have regional assistant secretaries. that's ridiculous. why is that the case? >> for some of it it is because they have nominated people who haven't gone through. look at the secretaries of the army. they've had two that had to go back. >> who is picking the wrong people? >> it seems like there are still arguments over that. we saw how tillerson was getting
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2017. did you see how these two men sat today? both tried to sit as far forward as they could in those big chairs in hamburg, germany. putin, a smaller fellow, seemed a bit dwarfed and not very happy about the picture he was presenting. the big story was in the art of man spreading. widening out as far as they could. nobody will outimagine me. usually there's the hand shake. usually americans do it once. this time with all the sxrams the motel of the occasion, they seemed to use hand shakes. every time they wanted to show graelt, they were reaching out for each other. it was like they were using hand shakes to punctuate points in a contract. the big news, i was about to say all kidding aside, they were smiling a good amount of the time considering they could draw up nuclear weapons to blow up
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much of the world. one thing has worried me over these months, these he two super power egos would get into a test of whose is big we are the world itself is the stakes. none of that today. none of it, let's pray, ever. that's "hardball." "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on "all in" -- >> president putin and i have been discussing -- >> thank you, thank you. >> russia says the american president he accepted a full denial of election interference. both sides have agreed to put it behind them. >> there was not a lot of relitigating of the past. >> what we know about everything that happened. vladimir putin met the donald trump behind closed doors. >> it is a