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lobbyists. he is suspected by some officials to having ongoing ties to russian intelligence. but he denies any current ties to russian spy agencies. giving all of this, our word of the day is transparency. the president praised his son two days ago. and he insisted he already divulged everything there was to know. but some lawmakers on the hill are throwing around another familiar word, two really, cover up. >> it's not the crime, it's the cover up. secondly when you make a disclosure, make it complete. >> these guys just can't come clean. it tells the country they have a lot to hide. if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. >> we saw cold hard evidence

this week that the trump administration and family intended to collude with russia. today we learned a former counter intelligence agent was also present at the trump meeting. >> that is not all. as pressure mounts to strip jared kushner of his security clearance, they have called on the white house for reinsurance. kristen welker is still in paris, ken delaney in washington, charlie savage author of "power wars," and steve lavine. i'm sorry if i messed up the title of your book. we're just learning about two

more people that could have been in that june 2016 meeting, what else do we know? >> we know that russian attorney, painted as being linked to the kremlin, had two people with her. we don't know the identity of one of the people we know the other was the person you mention thad is characterized as an american born lobbyist that was a soviet intelligence official. some u.s. officials still believe he still has links to intelligence officials in russia. that is something that he denied. here is the bottom line. it raises a number of questions about that big word you were talking about. the fact that donald trump junior, the white house saying he is being incredibly tra

transtransparent. the purpose of the meeting was said to talk about russian adoptions. we now know that is just not the case. in an e-mail he was promised damaging information about hillary clinton. he says he did not accept any. the fact that the meeting has expand expanded. so who are the people thought brought with her, we have out to representatives. we heard back from donald trump junior's attorney saying he can't know the background on

everyone. the other person in the room, who exactly is he? >> he is a lobbiest in august. he was in the sow yet military. he moved to the u.s., he got u.s. citizenship, and he is a classic washington fixer. he has been called a hired gun. he was lobbying on a cause near and dear to the russian's heart. he and the lawyer in the meeting both argue that the act is based on false premises. they will talk to whatever official will take a meeting with them to explain that, and that's what they say it was about. >> and why she she declining to identify the russian american to nbc news? >> probably because he is under the gun right now.

there is an inquiry by charles grassley and staff about whether he and others should have registered as a foreign lobbiest. so she may have been trying to protect him from taking the heat that he is now experiencing for having identified as being at this controversial meeting. >> it is clear he is part of russian intelligence? >> no, cloutly not. i have been told some officials expect that he has ties. it's not clear what the evidence is of that. he says she a lobbiest, plane and simple. and on occasion against them, casy. >> you mentioned him in 1998, what can you tell me about him? >> i met him in 1998 as you said, i have known him this

whole time for the skubsequent two decades. i'm absolutely not surprised to see that he is involved in this. he finds himself in murky cases involving shady oempt anticipat. power figures, he is a rare figure that straddles both worlds. a shady, dark, former soviet union. if you're looking at a reporter for someone that can get you through all of that and help you to understand what is going on, but there are no good guys, he was one of the figures whom you could trust and he could get you interviews and adults that you needed. >> you said murky, shady, and dark. you also write that about him,

he is adept at influencing politics. not his homeland. profane and fast talker who likes to dress well, a quick study who understands the world of politics. why would he have been in this meeting? >>. >> the short answer is that i don't know, but just by the super official fasou sup superficial facts that came out, he was working for a wealthy businessman, and he was assigned to over turn that act. if that is true, then he would have been in this meeting along with others to lobby the family,

the possible next president of the united states. >> and charlie, the "new york times" broke this story at the beginning of the week and since there has been a flood of headlines coming in. they are calling it in washington, giving all of these these headlines that continue to come out, how does the white house handle it, what do we do? >> we know there is a lot of digressions. jarge kushner has his own legal team. the president has his white house council and outside legal team as well. and their interests might not totally align. it was amazing when he put out that e-mail in it's entirety himself, and it looked like they made a decision to just rip off

the band aid. it was just one more drip. >> so why are they just not coming clean from the start, why do they continue to amend their statements, why not just say here is absolute loi everything, every foreign official, nonofficial, or a russian that we can think of that we met with. why not come out with everything now, deal with it at one point, instead of extending the cycle. is there anyone in the white house who is advocating just a full cleaning the slate? showing everything? >> as a reporter who covers scandals and things where people are in government and having to put out information they're not proud of or happy about. i have also thought why not just

put it all out there at once. i don't know that is what is happening here, but i agree with you it doesn't seem to be a media strategy working to their advantage. >> or trying to discredit the message. kristen, jared kushner is reportedly asking the white house to more vigorously push back on this meeting. they have you white house advisors saying they want to change the narrative around the latest twist in the russian scandal. but some of the communication aides, including scene spicer and others. they say it is best to handle the fure anderson t.

>> is it the role of the white house to do this, or is it the role of the attorneys yaen is there such a difference in opinion between jared kushner and the communications team? >>. >> as you know is a white house divided on a whole host of issues. messaging or policy issues. i think what you're seeing and the points that you're making underscore one thing which is that this is a white house that realizes it needs to have sharper and more disciplined messaging. we're learned the president is poised to hire a vern washington lawyer to deal with the messaging and the legal respond coming out of the white house. it coming after some of the

laeglae allegations. and we were talking immediately afterwards about which all of these questions about russia are being referred to outside council. i think this is an attempt to deal with that and retry to make sure that the broader messaging coming out about this controversy is more disciplined, ca katie. >> what about the off camera conversation on the way to paris, and then wondered why they had not released their quotes, the white house put it off the record. what's the disconnect there? >> well, it may just be that he changed his mind about wanting some of the other policy issues they discussioned to come out. i was struck by the fact that they discussed so many different issues. weather it was china, north

korea, or trade. he is opening to put the foe cushion back on policies here, but just as he was departing today, just as he wrapped up, that elaborate event with all of that very powerful imagery, our story broke and effectively said there was another person at that meeting with don jr. i think that is one reason he said let's nut discussiput the n the record because it will cover more ground. >> i hope you enjoy your location today. i hope they let you stay for the weekend. may they are, maybe they're not. >> that is something, drink a few bottles of wine. ken, charlie, steve, thank you very much. straight ahead, is vladimir putin pulling thestri strings.

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we now know there were, in fact, at least six people that met on the sixth floor. a russian american lobbiest and a former soviet counter intelligence offer joined the immediating. responding to the reports, don junior added that a translay por, and a friend of natalia were in the room. and some were not mentioned to having on going ties to vush than dejs. will his presence alone be enough to pique the interest of robert mueller.

guys, come on, his interest is likely already piqued. we don't know that for sure, but there are so many things going on. talk to me about this former counter intelligence officer. do we know for sure he would have been acting in an official capacity or using his background in a nefarious way in this meeting or is it all an assumption at this point? >> right now it is an assumption and speculation, but it is not outside of the realm of possibility here. the main one you opened the show with it, a lack of transparency. why are we just hearing about this individual? after president trump gave remarks? after reports in the press about these e-mails. we just heard about this additional individual and another potential individual who has had ties. we know he has had previous ties

to russian intelligence in his previous career. it's not unreasonable to think that he may still have ties or be acting as an unofficial go betweener agent. that is not unusual. no one will try to question the meeting and say high, i'm a current russian intelligence officer. >> they may say i have russian intelligence that could hurt your opponent? >> the russians are smart and they will have a level of applaudable de applaudable deni ability. there may have been other meetingers or conversations where information was conveyed, but i'm sure moouler will be looking into it with a fine

tooth comb. >> we don't know one but or another if intelligence or information was relayed in that meeting, we know they denied it so far. richard, you wrote a book called putin. tell me why does it raise any red flags for you? >> two. one is i like to quote president putin himself on the subject. there is no such thing at ex-kgb. he may no longer be working there or afailuated, but there is no such thing as ex. that means the mentality is formed. the other thing to know is that the secret service business and

government in the united states are more or less four separate and discreet things. one went into the other in russia. you can be doing any mix and match of those combos at any time. so this person may have been acting in a semiofficial capacity, but you need a little id card to be helping out your former organization. so when i heard that he was in the room, my hackles and my red flags went up immediately. >> i like a healthy dose of skepticism in everything. and i want to be skeptical here and play the skeptic. this guy who could be a former russia counter intelligence officer, would we even no if he was, do they a habit of identifying themselves as such? >> he has dual citizenship, so

he probablied that to employ his employment record. he said he worked in counter intelligence. there was a time when we would have had a meeting when the is different. ten years ago it was no big deal, but it gets worse every day. >> could it just be these were a bunch of players that wanted influence from one another and it didn't go much beyond that? they wanted more street credit and trump tower wanted my street credit in russia. dhuld be could that be as far as it goes? however, on top of this, we have

repeat repeated denials. we have repeated denials about neat i meetings that happened, and repeated denials about the purposes of the meeting. so usually when those types of share owest present themselves over and over again, you have to say why, what else is there. we know the e-mail chain referenced a prior conversation. i think the mueller investigation will be looking for any records of previous e-mails between these individuals, phone call records, the e-mails noted there was a cell phone number apparently available, after his meeting what happened? did they stop communicating, did anything else take place. on the back end, u.s. intelligence asians to will looking through other intelligence sources not from this meeting, but foreign intelligence to see if the names

popped up elsewhere or if they were involved in other communications. >> lots of questions that still need answers. a reminder that nothing happens in a vacuum. there are always coincidences, but a lot of going on at this time that we only found out later on. tara and richard, thank you both for being here and for lending your expertise. we'll be back in just a moment with this trump free headlines, you're going to love it. also ahead, one more nah and the plan will flat line. we'll be live, alive -- live on the hill. plus we heard the i-word thrown around, democrats taking

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>> trump 3.0 is 24 hours hold and on life support. two say they will breed with debates on the bill, mitch mcconnell cod -- cannot afford to lose any more votes. president trump released a bunch of tweets on the way to the bastille day celebration. >> president trump also called several senators from paris to apply more pressure. he called them while he was in paris. garrett is joining me now, an

po important distinction. let's get to the news, mitch mcconnell, will he have a chance? >> he still has a chance. there are two hard no votes. those that were no-ish or on the fence are still reviewing the bills. most headed back to their home states over the weekend. what we know is a lot of them are reviewing the bill and finding things they like in there. senator murkowski says premiums might only affect alaska. rob portman tweeted a picture of himself reading the bill. he will find there is $45 billion for opioid treatment. that is something he was looking

for john kasich said the bill doesn't go far enough. brian sandoval meeting with mike pence today seen ascii to influencing dean heller. they want to hear what the hospitals think about this. so there are a lot of moving parts to the bill even before we find out the cbo score to find out if anyone is willing to pull the trigger and be the third no vote going forward. >> a big day on monday. thank you very much. president trump has not even been in office a full sixth months, but two democrats are working to kick him out. they have filed articles of impeachment against the president saying he is in violation of his constitutional duty to cake care that the laws be faithfully executed.

impeded justice during a federal investigation. here is how sarah huckabee sanders responded to those claims. i think that is ridiculous and a game at it's worst. >> joining us now is brad sherman, one of the congressmen it. the russia investigation is far from over. any good prosecutor will wait to build their case two have an ir clad case before they move forward with their prosecution. why are you filing articles of impeachment now? do you believe do you have an ironclad case? >> i took at oath to the constitution that calls for the

impeachment of a president committing high tiers of justice. we have evidence of violation in two instances first in february the president threatened james comey to get him to drop the investigation regarding mike fl flynn. in may, he fired james comey and indicated he did it to curtail an investigation into russian collusion. it's true we may find other high crimes in misdemeanors. this is a long process, and the next step is for the judiciary committee to hold hearings, and we will not hold them unless we have substantial national attention thereon sdplp to do you con vens them to get on board with this?

there was maybe one impeachment that brought it up made at one point, but that is as far as anyone has been willing to go. many of them called this a big witch hunt. >> it is hard now that we see the e-mails of donald trump junior. the immediate effect that i'm hoping for is that people in the white house will finally sit down with the president and say for a number of reasons, including the fact of the articles of impeachment have been filed. we have to stop and control the impulses. we have to make decisions in a careful manner. if they do that, amay nevi may t republican support. if this level of incompetence continues. one thing after another shows

we're not getting competent leadership. >> what about the critics that say you're just playing right into president trump's hand. the hand that is he came in to clean up washington, and washington is doing everything it can to stop him from doing that. that is an argument that a lot of trump supporters made to me when i was on the campaign trial. >> they didn't elect him to obstruct justice. they didn't elect him to fire james comey to curtail an investigation. they didn't elect him to obstruct justice, and they didn't elect him for the uncontrolled impelss, disclosing

classified information to the russians on an impulse. i have no illusions. i searched with mike pence here for 12 years, we disagree on everything, and some in our party say that sherman would provide competent, constitutional advocacy. that is the case. but the constitution hires that we move forward when we have clear and convincing evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. a competent right turn even if it is the policies that the trump voters voted for. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. next up, when is enough enough for republicans?

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♪ me to the moon (elegant music) ♪ and let me play (bell rings) for months, the russian investigation has stared republican lawmakers in the face as they try to push forward their agenda. today is no different. some have joined today saying the meeting was opposition research. others say the meetings far from normal. >> when you see it is from the russian government, that is when you hit hard stop on that. that is when, framgly i would call the fbi. >> the constant drip drip dry of

details has not amounted to any push back. when is enough enough for the g.o.p. joining me is a former senior advisor to president obama and senator clinton. and also nan hayworth. my mouth is ahead of me, it wants the weekend to start, so it is going fast. pardon me, ladies. first, i want to start with you, you're seeing the nude of the meeting, what is going through your mind when you look back to june of 2016? >> i think what is as if fascinating is you realize that john podesta's e-mails were

hacked by russian intell, distributed on the internet, used by the trump campaign day in and day out to attack hillary clinton. then within weeks of the election, jared kushner is trying to set up back channel with the russian ambassador that would be impurvious. we have gone to real evidence of collusion. i'm glad we have a special prosecutor that can look at all of this. it seems like it is just the tip of the iceberg. >> yes, and instead of republicans coming forward to say -- you know one republican did, he said he would not traffic in those e-mails because they were leaked by russian

forces, every republican basically today by and celebrating the release of the e-mails, and now we learn they were meeting with russians and they wanted to hurt the campaign. they had knowledge, and they put their politics first and their country second. >> let's few our viewers in with what they're seeing on tv. air force one in newark, new jersey. he is going to spend the weekend at his golf course there. newark much closer than jfk where we normally see the president touch down. i was talking to congressman lee zeldon yesterday, listen to what he was saying. >> i want to ask you about what the president said, most people

would have taken that meeting. do you agree that it is opposition research. >> the e-mail that was sent should have been a clear red flag that it should not have happened. we know now that there was nothing that took place at the meeting that was illegal. >> that is the argument now, nothing that took place that was illegal. i sympathize with republican that's are trying to just not get involved in the president's daily dramas, but i have a hard time believing that if this was any other president, they would be going crazy right now. they would be going nuts. >> we witness it all of the time. partisanship is part of politics. republicans don't have to defend anything. the simple statement is that nothing illegal occurred. and the second statement is we have a special investigator,

robert mueller, who will i illusidate whatever needs done. >> what about the claim that republicans are putting party over country? >> i disagree completely with that. i don't think anyone involvemented in these discussions or the gyrations, politically, are trying to do something more than what is right for our country. the president just signed the va accountability bill. that is port for our nat is trying to support veterans. we're trying to put americans back to work. no one should be side tracked and i think things are proceeding as they should? >> do you agree that he should be impeached?

>> i think we have a special prosecutor that will determine the in facts. there is evidence today that suggests at least obstruction of justice. the president dealt with comey and other actions he has taken, but can i just respond for one moment to the statements just made. i just have to say, i find it incredible that the idea that republicans would not attack a democrat if the shoe was on the other food. why should we take anything serious when they have not been clear about this meeting -- >> answers on this meeting changed three times in three days. why do we believe that no information was exchanged when it was said. facts come out day after day after day that point to lies told not only by white house

staff, but jared kushner, donald trump junior. i hope that jump judonald trump, jared kushner, to do so, it seems to me that we know we can't count on what they're saying now. >> do you want to hear them testify? >> donald trump jr. has already said he'd be happy to. i'm sure that everyone will cooperate with the special prosecutor. >> how quickly? >> i want to hear more about the ukraine's relationship with the clinton campaign. >> we've got to leave it there. we will continue this conversation. >> happy to do that anytime. >> at another time. ladies, thank you very much. and we'll be right back as we watch the president land in newark. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered...

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air force one has just arrived in newark, new jersey. the door has opened. there's annum brel la opening right now. we will see if it is the president of the united states and it is. it's the president of the united states and first lady melania trump. they will descend the stairs. i will be able to catch my breath because there's something tickling my throat.

and donald trump mel ana will spend the weekend there. meanwhile, while you were not looking at all these russia headlines about don junior that have been breaking, dared and ivanka trump in sun valley idaho. the president's have been in the spotlight both on stage and off. and while the two are wheeling and dealing out west, the "washington post" has uncovered some controversy with ivanka trump's products abroad. since 2012 the post reports that millions of pounds of ivanka products have been imported into the u.s. in more than 2,000 shipments. that's not exactly in line with the buy american, higher american mantra that she and her father have champ i don't understand in the white house. coming up, after the break,

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eventually, though, i guess after enough notes were dispensed out of this atm, enough pleas for help, somebody called the cops. >> sure enough, we can hear a little voice coming from the machine. so we're all thinking this is a joke. >> no joke. it turns out an atm maintenance worker got stuck inside the machine. he didn't have his phone, so he turned to a pen and paper. after two hours police kicked in the atm's door and made a withdrawal they'll never forget. that will do it for me. i will see you back here at four p.m. eastern for deadline white house. i'll get rid of the tickle in my throat. i will slow dpoun my brain so my mouth will catch up with it. >> dude was stuck in an atm machine. >> yes. >> that's at craziest story i've ever heard you tell. >> i had a full newspaper in my hand sitting on the plane and i got to read the actual physical newspaper, front to back, and i found that little gem in the paper and i