in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember. hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts at msnbc world headquarters in new york with a jam-packed hour. ahead, pardon talk all over the airwaves this sunday as the president's team is out in force to deny he's even thinking of pardoning anyone while also making sure to point out that he certainly would if he wanted to. so we'll dive into the legal issues involved in that. plus jared kushner headed to capitol hill tomorrow for a closed-door interview with senate committee staffers. what could we learn about his role in all of the russia intrigue and that infamous meeting at trump tower? >> and a rare act of political civility when faced with ugly attacks over wearing a hijab, a

democrat arizona hopeful gets support from an unlikely source, her republican opponent. the news we've been following all day out of san antonio, tex teshgas, the death reaching ten. overnight eight people were found dead inside a sweltering tractor trailer and a spokesman for the u.s. immigration and customs enforcement agency says two more people have died in the hospital authorities found 40 suspected migrants crammed inside the truck. the youngest being just 15 years old. telemundo's veronica gallegos joins us from san antonio with more on this. what updates do we have on the people that are faring in the hospital, now that we know that two more have died. do we have any updates from authorities on their conditions? >> reporter: no updates right now, but i just received information that authorities believe that there may have been up to 100 people trapped inside this tractor trailer.

the 18-wheeler did not have working ac, and they did not have water. the death toll has risen to ten. two died in the hospital. eight were discovered dead on scene. a total of 38 people were found inside. police believe many of them may have fled on foot or they could have been picked up. we don't know how long they were trapped inside. we do know that investigators are out here checking surveillance video from the local walmart. we know a walmart employee was the one who alerted police after someone approached him asking for water. fire chief hood did say he believes they may have died from asphyxiation or heat exposure. let's listen to what he had to say. >> the air-conditioning was not working. paramedics and firefighters found that each one of them had heart rates over about 130 beats per minute which, again, they were very hot to the touch. so these people were in that trailer without any signs of any type of water. so you're looking at a lot of heat stroke, a lot of dehydration.

>> reporter: two of the survivors are teens. we are working to find out where they were going and where they were coming from. now tomorrow they are expected to file charges on the driver. reporting from san antonio's southwest side, veronica gallegos, msnbc news. >> an amazing update to think it began at 40 suspected people and now jumping up to 100. keep us posted as we get more information there. we go to the white house now and talk of the new communications director anthony scaramucci. he's taken the bull by the horns in his new job and finds himself in a familiar predicament trying to explain one the president's tweets with multiple explanations from aides. on saturday president trump alluded to his pardoning powers as the russia investigation looks into his family's finances. scar movie admitted the president did talk to him about pardons, but that it was no big deal. >> i'm in the oval office with the president in the last week, and we're talking about that. he says he brought that up and said, but he doesn't have to be

pardoned. there's nobody around him that has to be pardoned. he was just making the statement about the power of pardon. >> so getting this white house communications team on the same page at the president's personal legal team remains the biggest challenge here because we have trump's lawyer, jay sekulow saying that the president has not talked about pardoning. >> we have not and continue to not have conversations with the president of the united states regarding pardons. pardons have not been discussed and pardons are not on the table. we are not researching the issue because the issue of pardons is not on the table. there's nothing to pardon from. >> so when we were first introduced to scaramucci he did make the point to talk about the fact that he's operating in a different zip code legally as communications director than hal j. sekulow will be operating as the personal lawyer for the president. the president is continuing to tweet tonight just a short time ago sending this one out. take a look. as the phony russian witch hedge

fund continues two groups are laughing at this excuse for a lost election taking hold, democrats and russians. >> this could be the biggest of the russian investigation yet and his son-in-law, jared kushner will testify behind closed doors to the house and senate intel committees monday and tuesday. >> scar muchy is confident that kushner will speak. >> it will probably be the last time that he has to talk about russia. >> trump's son, don junior and paul manafort will be interviewed by the intel committee staff. we don't know the exact date on that and they will answer questions and provide requests for documents. cnbc's editor-at-large john harwood and tara muller, alex little, a former assistant u.s. attorney and former rand paul staffer and founder of liberty government affairs.

great to have you all here. john, let's dive in and why wouldn't the president be curious about pardon powers, john especially since it's become public knowledge that officials on the trump team have misled to get their security clearance specifically in the case of the ag jeff sessions talking about perjuring himself for a cabinet nomination. wouldn't it be good for the president to learn about pardon power? >> the biggest reason you wouldn't talk about pardon power is if you were confident that nobody around you or you yourself had not committed any crimes. obviously, the president by raising the issue with anthony scaramucci as he just described is thinking about it because it's potentially relevant because there is a chance that people will be convicted of crimes, and make no mistake about it. we've heard various people speculate that special counsel robert mueller is some sort of democratic hack. that is 100% baloney.

robert mueller is as straight as they come and if he ends up finding reason to charge people then this issue will, in fact, be squarely on the table and meantime it was useful that scaramucci cleared up the contradiction. jay sekulow said it hadn't been discussed any in the first service he may have performed as communications director, anthony scar movie let us know it was wrong and it has been discussed. >> scaramucci did say when it came to the question about how the white house team would communicate with the personal legal team that they would be operating in different zip codes. so should they be on a better page when it comes to language or questions of such a nature? >> i don't think they are operating in different zip codes, thomas. the legal team is supposed to try to handle the bulk of the response, but anthony scaramucci was out talking about it this morning and the question is is the president talking about this or not? and he cleared that up for us. >> so, brian, let's go to this

major question because the russian hacking and that is being taken seriously, and we know how congress feels about it, but scaramucci was saying today that it's all nonsensical. take a listen to this. >> the president will not have to pardon anybody because the russian thing is a nonsensical thing. i was there early on in the campaign. i didn't have any interactivities with russians. i didn't see anyone have interactivity with russians. it is a complete, bogus and nonsensical thing and this is the stuff that happens in washington that i don't like, scandals incorporated. >> meanwhile, we compare that to what the former cia chief michael hayden said, calling it the most successful covert operation in history. >> if he doesn't take the conclusion of the intelligence agencies that russia meddled in the election seriously? >> i think the president should. i do think that the russians meddled in our election. i don't think there's much

dispute about that, but i do agree with anthony scar much they there's nothing that they need to be pardoned because there is no evidence between the trump campaign and russians. >> well, what about those -- how can you say definitively because of the e-mails that were made public by don junior that would provide the opportunity that spoke specifically about -- >> right. >> a trade of information? >> i mean, what do those e-mails show? they show that some individuals who were russian may have been operating on behalf of the russian government reach out and said we have disparaging information about hillary clinton, and so the accusation was that hillary clinton was in cahoots with the russians, that she was maybe getting money from the russians and her campaign getting funded by the russians. that's not a crime. no matter how you slice it. that's not a crime. the problem is they're setting up a series of perjury traps in

congress for don junior, for kushner and manafort. their big problem they have to are about about is lying under oath. it's not actually being accused because nobody really believes that there was actual collusion between the campaign. there are -- there's evidence that there was some communication that doesn't look great for the trump campaign, but again, no definitive proof that the trump campaign was colluding with russians to fix the election. >> well, this is the only information that we've gotten so far and, alex, most of what robert mueller and other intelligence agencies whether it's senate intel or the house oversight is doing is classifieded and that has not been put out there in the public sphere as of yet, but as brian brings up, alex, these perjury traps. how big of that is a problem as manafort, don junior and jared face tough questions on the hill? >> it's a huge problem. both obstruction and perjury, there is a whole host of statutes that apply to the obstruction of congress and the

obstruction of justice for the special counsel investigation, but you generally don't lie about things unless you're worried about hiding them, and if i put my investigator's shoes on i see that as spoke smoke. if i'm the republican communications director, i don't want to believe that there was collusion here, but the trump family and those around that are acting like there was, and i think it will trip them up time and time again. >> we've had to witness kushner amend security forms and adding more than 100 foreign contacts that he had, and most recently saying he omitted more than 70 assets that load up to about $10.5 million. so, tara, if congress is saying that there was any connective issue here, right? and these e-mails expose something, at least a meet and we don't know if anything happened afterward although both sides say there was no follow-up. is it best that they follow the money and that's going to be the

big-ticket item that the senate and house and mueller are going to be looking for? >> i think what you're going to see is a multi-faceted investigation, and i think by the end of of this week congress should have more in terms of documents and a lot more in terms of testimony from kushner, manafort and donald trump jr., not just about the meeting itself which is clearly problematic, but about this pattern of basically nontransparency and that's where the administration has gotten itself into a lot of problems. nontransparence oat sf-86 form is a big issue. it's a particularly big issue when you're in the administration and campaign associates are under investigation about one of the very issues at the crux of the sf-86 form which i previously filled out when i worked as an analyst for the cia and part of it asked for disclosure of these contacts. they've had to be revised. we've seen a pattern about misleading information about the meeting with the russians. we still don't know what

transpir transpired during that meeting and i think you make a good point of following the money and mueller will do that, and there's a look interest the digital operations and how perhaps the returns knew to microtarget certain areas during the campaign. we don't have the evidence of collusion and the investigation is under way and there clearly are bits of evidence and there's clearly a lot of smoke and clearly lots of dots that hopefully the investigation, if there is something to be found will connect and find. i think that's the purpose of the investigation. so i don't want to jump to a conclusion, but we clearly have a lot of evidence pointing to a pattern of hiding significant information about contacts to russia. significant problematic contacts with russia and a significant problematic issues because of that? >> do you agree, especially when tara points out this lack of transparency and they'ra always playing catch up and allowing another shoe to drop that makes folks paranoid and very

suspicious. >> let me agree and disagree. >> i do agree that the constant dripping of information out and the information coming out where it shows that some trump administration officials have contradicted themselves on a number of occasions. politically, that's a problem. i don't think legally that's a big problem because the allegations that the trump campaign was in collusion with the russian. >> it is a fishing editionition in a sense that now these individuals are being hauled before congress. >> it started out, i've never had any contact with the russians and i don't know any russians. then it turns out -- it's like a where rae waldo, with sergey kislyak, they've all had contact in some way, shape or form. they have communications with russia that cannot be picked up by the nsa and then we find out there's this meeting with trump tower and the e-mail revealed by don junior himself that promised dirt on hillary clinton. >> right. >> so are you just willing to

pass a blind eye to what might be right in front of your face? no, i can see it, and i see they had a meeting at trump tower where they were promised one big swath of information about hillary clinton colluding with the russians and it was a bait and switch. they never had the information and basically, these russians wanted to get in to pitch the reduction of sanctions against russia and they wanted to talk about the adoption issue, too. we all know that all they cared about was a political issue of getting rid of the russian sanctions, but they bait and switch the trump campaign saying we have this stuff on hillary clinton and when the trump campaign heard the information they basically ended the meeting. they weren't acting like a campaign that wanted to be in collusion on that very meeting. >> the fact they took the bait shows there was a willingness and we don't know what transpired during that meeting and we don't know what happened

during that meeting. >> real fast. don junior went on "hannity" and said it was such a shame that they didn't get the dirt that they were looking for. also said this was everything when it wasn't. there was more to come. john, i'll give you the last word here. >> well, first of all, why in the world would anyone believe the account of what happened in that meeting from people who initially declined to disclose the meeting in the first place or believed the russians' account for that matter, that's first of all? second of all, we have a clean through line here which is donald trump being approached by someone providing damaging sanctions -- the end of the adoption program came out because of the sanctions. the president of the united states said in the second meeting that he had with vladimir putin at the g-20 which was also undisclosed. he told the new york times that they discussed the adoption

issue. again, they discussed adoptions/sanctions in the first meeting when negative information was offered and they discussed sanctions in the meeting afterworrieds when he was president of the united states. guess what happened in between? the russians hacked the dnc and hillary clinton e-mails and dumped a lot of damaging out. >> all right. so, guys, i'm going to ask you to stick rnd. >> tara muller, thank you very much for staying with us and great on intelligence angles on this. >> as we continue to talk about what will take place in d.c. this week, we all know he's a power broker at the white house and a mystery man from most americans and we hardly hear from him, but tomorrow the committee will get to know about jared kushner, the son-in-law and jack-of-all-trades appearing with staffers and about what he knows about the russia investigation. next hour, the democrats have a new slogan that's getting mocked on social media. is this any way for the resistance to move forward?

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same. >> media loves to talk about it only when it comes to president trump and they're been doing it for almost a year when there are real issues with some of the activities that the democrats took place. >> sarah, in fact, you know that's not true. for many months you and the president and his team denied any contacts with the russians. just in the last couple of weeks we've seen the contacts revealed and that's why don junior will have to appear before the senate and that's why jared kushner is appearing. this is not a made-up story. >> so who is jared kushner and what will he be saying this week when he sits down in private behind the closed doors without taking any oath to actually tell the whole truth? david freelander of politico is joining me now. you formerly worked at "the observer" and you know jared kushner and his work routine, but how will it pan out for the end of next week? >> every time it seems like someone pokes this russian bear, so to speak.

all of a sudden a torent of information that no one knew about is unearthed and they have to update their forms. who knows? this is a very high-stakes moment for him and the administration. >> all in all, and you wrote one of the most extensive profiles on jared kushner, who is this person? because as we see video of him all of the time, whether he's with the president or with the first daughter ivanka, we don't hear from him. we rarely hear his voice. >> right, which is part of his savvy, right? we know this about the president. the president doesn't like staffers who rise above him in terms of their notoriety or their fame so he's quite smartly staying in the background. he's someone who kind of grew up and came of age in a scandal-scarred new jersey, new jersey political real estate family and has been trying to make his own way in the world ever since. >> when it comes to that scandal of what happened with his own father and his aunt and his uncle and chris christie's involvement and all of that being the prosecutor that sent

his dad to jail, you would think that jared kushner would have a savvy to avoid the types of traps that have been laid especially after winning the white house knowing that there might be some soiled background issues that are going to be exposed. isn't that a contrast? >> yeah. you would think he would have that. he doesn't seem to have that. i mean, there's this reputation, right, where he's the kind of svengali, the mastermind of the trump operation, and i'm not sure that the trump operation really had a mastermind. i'm not sure he was really it. he seems like he's sort of stumbling backward in all of these things and getting into trouble he shouldn't get into. >> when it comeses to how you think he will handle this fresh u, you've seen him perform under pressure before? do you think he's up to this type of challenge? >> i don't think i've ever seen him perform under this type of pressure. i mean, now we have sen aate investigators and house investigators being looking into ties with russia, and i think he

must be grateful that this is want public tomorrow. >> all right. we can only hope for the details of this to be coming out as quickly as possible so all americans can know. great to have you with me. stick by because john harwood, editor-at-large is still here and alex little former, assistant u.s. attorney. what took place in trump tower with those russians. this is behind closed doors, but how is this game changing in a way especially considering he's not under oath? >> i'm not sure it's going to be game changing, thomas. as you noted, it's not under oath. it's not public. jared kushner has shown that he is only grudgingly being forthcoming with information. that's why he's had to revise that sf-86 form and revised his financial disclosure. i would think that the greater potential for game changing

would be if and when he talks to robert mueller and the special counsel in which case he will be under oath and we'll see if that happens and when. >> so brian, you would expect that kushner is going to be forthcoming tomorrow or just hope that he's going to be forthcoming tomorrow knowing the pressure that this administration faces if he's calling in what you talked about earlier, a perjury trap? >> i'm someone who worked with the senate judiciary committee years ago, and i can't imagine sitting in that chair and being questioned by senators. it's going to be very tough. there say lot of pressure and jared kushner sitting down and doing this even though it's not under oath, but what we do know is probably details of this meeting will be leaked. they'll be in the public domain probably before he even gets up and leaves the meeting. so we will have an understanding of what was said at that meeting and if there was enough information gathered, maybe there will be information gathered that contradicts

information that jared kushner said in the public domain. it may cause problems for him because he may get called back. this is a very important meeting for him and he should be forthcoming and there are a lot of dangers in the sitdown. >> the wall street journal having updated the worth for jared and ivanka disclosing 77 new items of net work of up to $7 million and kushner has had to amend those connections of having met with foreign encounters add something 100 new names. so he really goes into this meeting with a tough burden to elevate himself out of what already might be presupposed. >> he does, and i think if the staffers and they're very good staffers on both committees, do their job, they will ask questions around those disclosures to try to really pin him down on why he put down the items he did, why he left off those he didn't, this notion that just because it's not under

oath it doesn't mean he can go into congress and lie. there are statutes that prorobert that. he's got a very good criminal defense lawyer who is advising him and i'm sure he'll be very careful about the questions he asks, but if he asks the right questions, what documents do you keep, what phone numbers do you use? who knows your schedule. wealth of the information they can get from him is extraordinary because of his family access he had the go-between with president trump unlike anybody else during the pendency of the entire campaign and if investigators start to ask about his conversations with the president, the ways in which he was doing business on the side, they can gather that extraneous information to help them build a larger case down the line. >> and so as we think about the larger case down the line, quickly, democrat adam schif, we have a lot of ground to cover he'll only be available for two hours so this will probably only be the first interview.

david, do you think that they're going to be able to squeeze any information out of jared kushner that is relevant to moving this forward or that he's just in there to kind of do some triage work over these omissions? >> i mean, i would imagine they would. unless we've heard the whole story so far which seems like we just haven't because the story keeps getting amended much like the sf-86 forms. more is bound to come out. >> with that, they hit send too soon. there are 30 different times and nearly 30 different times you have to hit send on those, mails and it's not like it's one click and done. so a lot of explaining to do, you know? and hopefully we will get some information out of this. great to have you here, david. john harwood, as always, thank you. brian darling, stick around for us. alex, thank you very much. we'll let you go and coming up next republicans are expected to vote on health care this week and will they get one step closer to repealing obamacare

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it appears that we will have a vote on tuesday, but we don't know whether we're going to be voting on the house bill, the first version of the senate bill, the second version of the senate bill, a new version of the senate bill or a 2015 bill that would have repeal the affordable care act now and then said that somehow we'll figure out a replacement over the next two years. i don't think that's a good approach. >> we'll have republican senator susan collins among the lawmakers confused and headed into this week over what's being called mitch mcconnell's last-ditch effort to bring down obamacare. with me now is congressman tom reid of new york. >> you voted for the house version of the aca repeal. >> senators could be roughly 48 hours from now voting on a new

bill they don't know anything about. just considering how you are in your own shoes, how concerned are you about the short window right now for what lawmakers really need to figure out? >>. >> it's great to be on, and yeah, i did support the legislation in the house because i've been about moving the ball forward because the collapsing individual marketplace under obama i think everyone agrees has to be fixed and dealt with. so for the senate not to take action has been very frustrating, but at the same time it's the senate. so it's on their lap as we speak and if they do nothing i just don't see how that is politically sustainable or the right thing to do because you have millions of people in harm's way as we speak. >> it was anticipated that whatever happened in the house and they went over to the senate that they wanted to start from square one coming up about their own legislation. what happens if it winds its way back to the house and your chamber? are you ready to get back to

battling? >> well, i think definitely we're ready to move in the house. there is an eagerness to move on the health care issue, i'll be confident to address it in the house in a relatively quick fashion. what we may end up doing as 22 republicans and the problem solver's caucus that if that doesn't work we still have to do something. i hope to come together on and announce publicly this week about where we could find some fixes to the individual market and deal with some of the affordable care act in a way that's responsible for the american people. >> you do see room for compromise in the key parts of obamacare? >> i do. if the senate can't act you will still have a major problem across the county country with counties want being able to comply with the mandate. millions of folks are losing the health insurance that they rely upon. so we'll have to do something.

so i'll continue on have a plan a, but always, you have to be prepareded with plan b for life and that's what i'm trying to do, to work across the aisle to solve this for the millions of americans that we call neighbors and friends and people we represent in congress. >> so let's talk about, as bee move across the aisle in another issue and not health care because president trump had tweeted this afternoon possibly over the battle over russian sanks and it's very sad that republicans even some that were carried along the back do little to protect their president. so we know that there is a strong favor for the russian sanctions, to go forward on the senate side, whether it's the problem solving orred tuesday morning group, there are not that many that would be needed to vote in the affirmative for russian sanctions. what is your opinion and how do you feel that you will vote when that becomes an issue in the house? >> i've been supportive of the

russian sanctions and give know their activity in the ukraine and activity with the election and trying to influence the election in a way that has clearly been demonstrated in my opinion. they didn't change the election and didn't in any way ruin or jeopardize the integrity of the election and i'm open to the sanks a sanctions and we have to deal with north korea and iran. you will have to deal with these foreign actors that are irresponsible and a threat us to in the nation and will be dealt in tandem with each other as we go forward with the sanction bill. say finally, some legislation is moved off the hill and gets to the white house for the president's signature and instead he vetoes the russian sanctions. >> well, i am not going to speculate as to what passes the senate and gets on to the president's desk and we'll have to deal with that bill as we go forward. the point is that i think these nations have demonstrated adverse action towards our

national security interest and our national interest and those sanctions are appropriate and i think they'll make their way through the process and the level of sanctions will be appropriate to meet the transgressions that we see with these countries. >> even with the president's level of rhetoric when it comes to sanctions and maybe a willingness to have a more friendly relationship with vladimir putin, are you worried at all that he could veto any type of comprehensive legislation concerning russian sanctions on the hill? >> as one who supports russian sanctions i'm living in the real world. there are going to be areas that we'll have to recognize that russia is a world power, has influence in parts of the world that we have a common interest, take, for example north korea. i see an ability for us to work together with representatives because they have a common interest in addressing these concerns as we do. you still have to have an open

mind in order to deal with them diplomatically and elsewhere so when we have a common interest their status can be utilized and leveraged to our advantage as america. >> their power has been elevated through 2016 and 2017. new york congressman tom reed, great to have you, sir. i appreciate you on on a sunday. >> thanks for having me on. >> i want to bring in congressional reporter sean sullivan, and brian darling, a former staffer for republican senator rand paul and the columnist with "the observer." sean, let me begin with you and we move back to health scare and we'll get on to russia in a second and can mitch mcconnell get something over the finish line this week even if it's just a procedural vote in the debate? >> any way you slice it, whether it's repeal and replace, whether it's some, you know, alternative to either of those, the reality is right now the votes just aren't there. you have opposition from

centrist republicans like susan collins. you have opposition from conservatives like rand paul, and this point we don't know when mcconnell can repeal and repeal and replace the current health care law. at this point the votes aren't there. something's got to change in the next 48 hours for him to advance the wall. >> a lot of pressure over the next two days because senate democratic leader chuck schumer is pretty adamant that it's not going anywhere and he talked about it this morning about what would then be triggered. take a listen. >> so the first things we're going to propose -- and the republicans, hopefully, will join us once they abandon this rotten deal is some cost sharing which the insurance companies say will help bring down premiums and stabilize the market. something else that republicans have often supported which is re-insurance proposed by tom carper and tim kaine.

>> would republicans, do you think, be in the mood to negotiate as this bid collapses as schumer is proposing there? >> they shouldn't. democrats steam rolled republicans when they passed it and this bill, i mean, this law is failing. it is resulting in increased premiums and less coverage. so i don't think that republicans should cave to chuck schumer's wishes. i think this bill, the bill that's pending right now, we are not sure whether the senate will proceed to the house passed reconciliation measure and the reconciliation measure or some permutation of the two, and what we do know is all of the versions have a bailout of insurance companies and that's what chuck schumer is proposing even a bigger bailout. cost sharing is a bigger bailout of the insurance companies. conservatives should not support that. that's not going to be helpful to the markets. ultimately, it will be a band-aid that will solve the

problem in the short term and create even bigger problems in the long term. >> katie, we watched this week as the president tried to make chums with senate republicans and be friendly and use the charm offensive and the power of the house, but he also has been tweeting about this is aing that republican senators must step up to the place, with the tax reform and infrastructure. when? exclamation point. do you think his charm offensive is working in any way? >> there's no question that republican lawmakers do face kriet a bit of pressure to get something done that they can say meets their years'-long promise to repeal obamacare and certainly, we are seeing very public pressure from the president on his twitter feed and of course, that white house has been working behind the scenes over the last couple of weeks and certainly, there's also a lot of pressure from the republican grassroots, but as sean noted, there are so many

different factions here that assembling a coalition that can actually get republicans to yes looks very daunting at this moment. >> sean, i know you co-authored a piece this afternoon on the post website looking at the gop infighting and the spectator, "the conservative magazine." republicans have yet to figure out how to support each other. is this nothing new especially considering that the republicans have the white house, the senate and the house? >> t >> we are we are six month away when the refrp reps took control of the house. they control all of the government and you would think in that position they would find ways to work together and advance the ball on the legislative goals, but the reality is they haven't and just look at this health care debate. they've been debating this thing for months and they've made very, very little headway. they've lost portion res,

arguably along the way. we're starting to see the blame game begin. we're starting to point fingers at moderates, we're starting to see the members of his own electoral party with -- >> yes. >> it's a remarkable level of discord that we're seeing right now. it is nothing new for the republican party, but it's pretty stunning to know that they have the keys to the car and they control this thing and they're still fighting with each other. >> we'll continue to watch it. great to have you on. thank you very much. >> in our next hour president trump is drawing this red line and warned special counsel robert mueller not to cross it, and it's about money, but it may already be too late. then coming up next, an american scoring big in the british open.

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grand slam victory and spieth previously won the masters and the u.s. open and jack nicklaus is the only other one to win before the age of 24. can you imagine being that well accomplished? >> you have to look really hard to find it. we'll take you to a place in arizona where we did. a democratic senate hopeful who wears a hijab and it was her potential republican opponent that came to her defense. deidre abboud will be joining me live to talk about her run for senate and the controversy about the head scarf after this. ts $1. what's team spirit worth? (cheers) what's it worth to talk to your mom? what's the value of a walk in the woods? the value of capital is to create, not just wealth, but things that matter. morgan stanley

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so here is something that you don't eevery day in politics now. kindness. republican senator jeff flake of arizona coming to the defense of a woman who is challenging him for his political seat. deidra abboud, who is muslim,

has phased numerous online attacks because of her religion. on tuesday senator flake tweeted, hang in there, sorry you have to put up with this. lots of wonderful people across arizona. you will find them. now abboud is an attorney and community activist who is seeking the 2018 democratic senate nomination to try to flake from his seat. it is great to have you with us. explain to everybody watching the time of messages that you are receiving via social media. >> it's very interesting that the same people who are accusing me of being an oproposed woman are also using freedom in america to attack a muslim woman in america. it's been everything from go back home, even though i'm from arkansas. you you should die because you're muslim. muslims don't belong here. all muslims should leave, even though we've been here for quite a long time. america's made up of all different kinds of people but muslims aren't the only one that are receiving these attacks. these attacks are against everyone that is considered an "other," so the black community is getting it.

the latino community is getting it. the lgbtq community is getting it. it's become commonplace for women to be subjected to ridicule no matter what they wear. >> when it comes to the reaction of senator flake and his message for you to hang in there, what did you think of that and did you find actually something the two of you can agree on, that there is a tone in politics where kindness should ring true first. >> i think that both the way flake and myself have conducted ourselves, probably our entire lives, is to respect other people and it should be no different in politics. we can definitely choose to put out our best faces forward. we can choose to say how we're the best candidate. but there is no reason to attack other people for their personal characteristics and traits. so we in arizona can be a leader in this, in the united states, of how we can change the political discourse and the discourse in the grocery store. >> i think i just heard the arkansas accent come out,

deedra, just a second ago. saying myself. because you don't have an accent until you said "myself." do you find it interesting to be running for a seat in arizona coming from a southern background? what are the biggest questions you get as being raised in the south and now living out west? >> i think a lot of people ask why i moved here. i actually came here on vacation and fell in love with it. my husband and i feel like arizona is our home. we wouldn't want to live in any other place. we always wants best for arizona and to work for arizona to make it better. that's what i've spent my entire almost 20 years in arizona doing. it is the "i" and vowels that give me away every time. >> don't worry about it. as we witnessed the heat of politics, a lot has changed because of the 2016 race and our current the way that he used muslim rhetoric on the trail.

take a listen. >> i think we have to look at the mosques. i think we have to be extremely careful. we have to look at mosques. we're making enemies by doing nothing. we're knocking down world trade centers. we're shooting planes into the pentagon. probably the other plane was going toward the white house. you had some very brave people. what are we going to do? just sit back and say we just want to be nice to everybody? we can't be so nice. >> the southern poverty law center put together a map that showed hate incidents were up, 867 incidents just ten days post election. do you think just based on your own personal experience that you've received that type of backlash before or the type of backlash you're receiving now where you put yourself out there publicly to be criticized is just that, the fact that you've become more public? >> people who have been subjected to "otherness," which

became a thing in 2016 and we're celebrating it in 2017 how much we can attack people who have different characteristics. that is where we are today. it's unfortunate. but i think that we can do better. what is going on online is not the problem. what is going on in real life is the disease that we need to solve. people are dealing with this every day in the grocery store. we are no longer treating our friends, family, neighbors as though we're all in this together. and we are all in this together. we all want to make america great. we all want to make america better. but we don't want to be kicked out of the country, torn away from our family or subjected to hateful rhetoric in -- online, who cares. in real life. that's what we as a society have to make a decision and say this is not us, this is not what america looks like in 2017. >> deedra, great to have you on and thank you for your time. good luck in what you're doing in arizona and your political

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