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mud on those sorts of things. >> there is at least one subject he is not willing to talk about, perhaps the biggest part. >> i said please don't be too nice. like when you people put somebody in the car and you're protecting the head -- >> are's in remarks -- we have some new reaction today from white house political advisers on the ousting of reince priebus as chief of staff. some are hoping john kelly will bring discipline and order to the west wing. >> many of us are excited about

this new infusion of energy and discipline. speaking for myself, even if that means thereies more protocol, more pecking order and less regular access in and out of the oval office. >> meanwhile, priebus is taking a parting shot at the media on his way out, describing the press as dishonest. >> if people knew what the actual truth was, whether it be palace intrigue, russian collusion, l it be someone said something in the oval office or whether it be anything, the most breathtaking thing for me as lynch what the truth is and what backs a full-blown narrative. >> priebus said he resigned on tuesday but refused to comment on scaramucci. and the white house says the

president will sign a bill with the ability for him to lift sanctions. >> when you see these thugs thrown into the back of the paddy wagon, like when you put somebody in the car, you're pro. >> kelly o'donnell is joining us from the white house. a good saturday morning to you. previous's departures, is there an

an. >> there have been different bases of power, from the famili familial and success. skbrrk president trump puced in a downpour to describe another shake-up. >> reince is a good man. johnson kelly has been a star, done an incredible job thus far, respected by everybody, a great, great american. >> reince priebus said he privately offered his resignation thursday. >> i think he was right to hit receipt set button. it was something that i think the white house need.

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president. the general has whether building that wall is really something that should happen. so wild donald trump is getting a general who is very much well liked, he also is getting somebody who is going to push become against him. i don't know whether whether or not that's going to fly with the president. >> and steve bannon, is he going to be the next to go given that he was also secured in that interview. >> i think the purpose he's standing is a physical and daily reminder of trump spaes space. rhi rhine. >> now that they're all in office, that are all handed him. now clint gillery couldn't make that one, i ton sfrrk he has a

large media organization that he could sflrj and remember all of the things he wanted term limit him to do. he could turn around and donald trump could lose if he loses his bearings. >> so quickly, mike, the white house. is it likely to abrand bandon health care? or is that also nor dead end. >> that's right. and we're hearing three very difference messages out of the house the white house and he said maybe the time is now to reach across the aisle and democrats where are your ideas? paul ryan put out a statement

yesterday saying, no, wait a minute, we were sent here to repeel and repleas blake, we to toke us and gym to fight. and then donald trump the three most powerful politicians in the same country, who knows where this is going. charlie dent mentioned there had been bipartisan cooperation and they think they can come up with at least some targetedin insurance form, the individual markets and all so we're ready

to pro. why prop up a law they wanted to appeal for so many years. democrats have a great campaign going into 2018 and say we can govern better than these guys. why help the republicans save themselves. what happens next, we really have no idea but it will be fascinating to see. >> it will indeed. thanks so much. >> she's a retired navy seal team member. what she wants president trump to tell her face to face when she joins me later in the show. whoa!

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it takes a lot more than a tweet and as general dunford put out in his memo, he'll have to really take a look at it. that's why i said i want to meet president trump face to face.

whe while he's looking at the bottom line, that's just equipment. you have to lock it eactual quality of the people. >> i'm curious, are you actually trying to get a meeting can the president? >> if i could, i would. i doubt that. i would like to at least get the message out there that, sir, look at more than the bottom line. this is not a business. it's not like one of his building there in new york city. this is people, military strong, because of the people. people will get selected through the metrics that we do, boot camp. we get selected out. don't close those doors.

>> general dunford said we're going to continue to treat our people with respect. do you think president trump is being disrespectful? >> it was disrespectful the way the message was delivered with a tweet and that there are a couple hundred thousand people now who were granted open service and they were given that safe landing zone. now the rug was pulled out from under them. what happened to all them? a couple hundred thousand of people serving with honor. what happens to those people? >> one of the issues alleged

disruption that transgender would cause? >> i think more disruption was just the tweets and the way he did it. general dunford put out that memo saying this is what's going on. that looks like pretty big disruption to me. there are disruptions with everything that we do, every walk and live. will there's religious disruption in the country. those are overcome by leadership. so leadership is the problem, not transskrgender people. >> how about morale? >> if you're a good leader, morale will be high because you lead from the front and by example as the president does. look at the future generation of kids growing up. i walk down the high school to give a speech and all those kids are like whatever.

what kind of example is being set if all they're talking about is hate and bigotry and telling other americans they're not worthy. i'm saying we are all equal, we should be treated with dignity and respect. every american. that's the example that should be set by our leaders. >> 20 years in the service, a retired navy seal, you certainly have our respect christian beck. thank you.

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president trump giving controversial vice to law enforcement. he spoke to a group of police officers on new york's long island when he went off script and said this. >> when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in rough, said please

don't be too nice. like when you guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head, the way you put their hand -- like don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody, don't hit their head, i said you can take the hand away, okay? >> joining me now, a policy expert in policing and crime and was a senior adviser for hillary clinton's campaign. welcome. glad to have you here. let's talk about trump's law and order approach here. a lot of people say this is what got him elected. this seemed to be a clear suggestion of using force here. what was it? how did you interpret it? >> first of all, there's a difference between campaigning and actually serving as president of the united states. i don't condone the comments he made then but certainly now as a sitting president of the united states, what he said was outrageous.

i've worked with advocates, police chiefs, with police officers over many years on this very issue. it can take decade to actually build trust between the police and the communities that they serve, particularly communities of color and in one statement the president of the united states can actually undermine all of that. he undermines it not only for the communities he purports to represent but also for the police officers, the police chiefs and police officers trying to do the right thing. he's making their job more difficult. that's why you saw the long island police department come out and want to distance themselves from the statement they made. >> i have that. this is from the suffolk county police department, that and the international association of police chiefs. "law enforcement officers are trained to treat all individuals whether they are a complainant, suspect or defendant with dignity and respect."

as a department we do not and will not tolerate roughing up of prisoners. but then what was disturbing, the cops behind the event were cheering and laughing and applauding. >> and you even have seen some people suggest that, oh, he was just joking. but police brutality is not a joke. state-sanctioned violence is not a joke. you look at the story of someone like freddie gray who was arrested, thrown in the back of a van, his neck was snapped and he died. i mean, there are families that are still grieving because of incidents like this and it really is disgraceful to see the president of the united states using his platform and also just really not having any understanding of -- or regard for these incidences and the tragedies and the loss for families that have experienced this violence. >> do you think there's a sense

that this administration has felt it was unsupported and so by doing this they were sort of building a bridge further to law enforcement? >> but donald trump had law enforcement support during the campaign. they endorsed him and here he is now going and speaking to law enforcement. ian p think, look, law enforcement do very difficult, important jobs for all of us and they keep all of our communities safe but the statements that he's making, they actually undermine those very jobs and in some way it's not surprising because when you look at his justice department. his justice department has already already a bandoned and the communities that they serve come together to collaborate, to build trust, to build accountability and his justice department is retreating even on voluntary efforts that police chiefs and cities have wanted to

undertake because they know at that they will make their community safer they actually have trust between their department, the officers on the beat and the very residence that they serve. >> i'm thinking about the timing of all this. it comes on the heels of the boy scouts of america speech. i should let viewers know you and i were talking yesterday about the tone, the political tone, the rhetoric coming out of the white house right now. do you this i this -- do you think this is changing overall what people find to be acceptable? >> i find the presidency is cheapening, is bringing down the public dialogue in this country. we tell our kids they can grow up to of the i wouldn't want my children or any children to grow up to emulate this president.

a president that condones the largest platform i think there was a time when people thought of the president of the united states coming to speak at your event as a celebratory fair. you see people having to distance themselves, first the boy scouts. and really apologize for the statements of the president of the united states. i think that is a tragedy. >> it's something you and i will talk about on the air and off yet get, maya harris. >> next hour, roy hosts "am joy." shawn evans: it's 6 am.

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reince is a good man. john kelly will do a fantastic job. general kelly has been a star, done an incredible job thus far, respected by everybody. a great, great american. reince priebus, a good man. thank you very much. a good man but not good enough to stand the job apparently. joining me now syndicated radio talk show host bill press and kerry sheffield, good morning to you both. and kerry, the failure to repeal obamacare and this messy departure by reince priebus. do even president trump supporters have to agree this is unsustainable and counter productive to his agenda. >> good morning, alex, great to be here. i would say the health care failure had to do with the senate. i would have liked to see more from president trump. it does taken credible energy

and focus to have 7% of the gdp like health care so i would have liked to see more from the white house, but with regard to the reince priebus and the shake up -- this happens. there is an author who wrote a book on white house chiefs of staff and to have someone who really understands what the president is thinking and has that kind of present whisperer status and has the ability to tap into what the president wants, i don't think that reince priebus understood that and i think it has to do with the fact he is from washington, a creature of washington and understands politics, but we didn't see that connect between what was happening on capitol hill and the white house and reince priebus wasn't doing that sufficiently. i think around the board, you had everyone from the left, democrats and eugene robinson from the washington post praising general kelly for his ability to run administration or organizations and i think this is a great transition here. so, yes, i would like to see more on health care but to be honest, the republicans in the senate, that is where the failure happened. >> so bill, we go way back.

i'm not going to tee this up for you or ask you directly your take on this messy nature of the reince priebus departure. >> come on. >> if you are president trump, what would you do to get past the soap opera and deliver on an agenda. >> you would have to basically have a transplant, a head transplant to change donald trump. that is what is so phony about this in my mind, alex. the white house is in free-fall. i think john kelly is a terrific american. great patriot. he can't fix the white house because the problem with the white house is not with the staff, it is not with reince priebus or scaramucci or sean spicer, it is with donald trump. he's the one out there nonstop and we heard melania or ivanka will change that you be won't change. he's attacking his attorney general and scolded by the boy scouts and police department for his remarks.

so good luck for john kelly. and one other factor, too, so far as we know, ivanka and jared kushner and scaramucci don't report to the chief of staff. they report directly to the president. doomed from the beginning. >> do you think on the heels of what you are saying, bill, it is fair to say the president doesn't make it easy for democrats to -- rather does make it easy for doemocrats to be obstructionist on their agenda. >> they haven't had the opportunity to be obstructionist on his ajegenda. and mcconnell said we're going to have 13 men write the health care bill, all men and we're not going to allow any debate. the democrats weren't even in the room. this was -- kerry just said that, the entirely the senate republicans who rigged the vote so they only needed 50 votes and they couldn't even deliver that. >> kerry, look i don't want to sound overly sankive onusly, but is the kind of language

scaramucci used in his tirade against reince priebus, is that acceptable anywhere. do you as a conservative condemn this language. do you think he should be fired. >> i don't think he should be fired. i've known him for several years up here in manhattan. and there is a new york versus a democrat vocabulary. and i'm the type of person who is very up front and i tell you exactly what i think and in d.c. they stab you in the back and pretend to be your friend up front. i used to work at goldman sachs and i don't like it and i am conservative and i would prefer and i have five brothers and i know this language happens, i would love to see more civility and that sort of thing. but to be honest, i think anthony is a better channeler of who donald trump is and the message that the 60 million plus voters -- >> that may be. but quickly, kerry, does it concern you that he was talking on the record and was not aware this would have this kind of

backlash, this kind of language? >> well, i think this is a function of the fact that, yes, he's not been a white house communications director before and he apologized and said i won't trust a reporter like this in the future going forward. but this is a man who is incredibly entrepreneurial, he built a tv show from scratch and sold it to a network. he understands -- >> all right. >> you're going to have to hold that thought and i'm so sorry because my colleague "am joy" is coming up next. if i cut her, that is not right. and join me at noon when i welcome senator al franken to the show to talk about his vote this week in the senate. joy reid hosts "am joy" from l.a. next.

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