if you've got a life, you gotta swiffer thank you forring with with us on this saturday, and the search and rescue operation is happening after a marine corps mv-22 osprey crashed off of the coast of australia. they were conducting reg ular scheduled operations when it went down after 4:00 p.m. local time. and 23 of the 26 people on board were rescued. the white house says that president trump has been briefed on this crash. now, the commandant of the marine corps tweeting moments

ago saying this, please keep the families of those involved in the osprey mishap near aus trtra in your thoughts and prayers, and we will stay on top of this developing story at this hour when we get it right here at nbc, and right now we are turning to president trump who is at his club in new jersey for his first official vacation since being in office, and we are said that he will have meetings with jop kelly after his first full week in office, and he will be there for 17-day stay. and the president's team will be hard at work, and news this week that special counsel robert mueller is using grand juries in washington and virginia in his investigati investigation. kelly o'donnell is south of the president's bedminster club, and she is joining us live from bridgewater, and kelly, the president at the moment, the legal team, and as i was just saying, definitely working very

hard, and not going to get any days off, and what are they saying about the latest developments involving robert muell mueller, and again, tapping the energy from two grand juries? well, the special counsel using grand jury is the typical tool for a prosecutor the go to already impaneled grand juries and get some assistance for the work of the investigation and things like getting the subpoenas authorized by a grand jury, and while we don't know the specifics, that is what would be typically how he would be using this, and it does not indicate at this point based on the legal experts telling us that there is some impending indictment, but it is more of the work of going through the investigation at this time. and the new york times is reporting that the white house has been requested to turn over some documents related to michael flynn, and the president's first national security adviser who was in office just a little bit over three weeks before he was force ed to resign after not being up front and truthful about the contacts with the russian

officials, and i had spoken to the special counsel with the president, and the office inside of the white house handling that, and they are saying that they are cooperating and in touch with the robert mooueller investigation, and not going into any specifics about the requests that are made, or how they are responding to individual pieces of what is ha happening with the investigation, and they want to say as little as possible, be tow say at the same time, they are working with the special counsel who is looking at all aspects of the russian interference on the 2016 election. you mentioned the president at bedminste bedminster, and he is spotted out and about on the grounds of the 500-acre golf resort to dda and social media helped us to find that out. and we have not gotten any information about the white house of what specifically the president is doing today. it is saturday and the first full day of the vacations, and so he may be enjoying the down time in addition to the chief of staff briefing him about that the awful incident involving the mari marines, and so we expect meetings in the days ahead, and part of the legal team will be here as well. richard? >> and another story that you

and i are watching is what is happening at the u.n., and topic important to the president is the security council, and we understand that with those discussions, they have walked in to debate the issues of north korea, and what can you the tell us about that meeting? >> well, this is one of the highest priorities for the president, dealing with north korea and the united states has sponsored a resolution before the security council which is specific economic sanctions on north korea as a direct response to the multiple attempts by north korea to show the military might with test launches of the missiles, and a lot of oconcern that the capabilities that north korea has and the nuclear ambitions combined could deliver a warhead to the area that could reach the united states, and that is a high level of concern, and so we have seen those over for the u.s. to push for that, and vote to be happening this hour. richard? >> we have live pictures there, kelly, for the viewers of them ga e thrg and scattering, and we have heard that the ambassador

to the united nations from the united states nikki haley is speaking. we will go to that quickly. >> monday, we said that the time for talking is over, and it is time for action. today, it is action and it is going to be hitting hard, but it is a strong point to north korea that all of this nuclear irresponsibility has to stop. >> again, the ambassador to the united nations from the united states nikki haley is speaking, and we will be watching that as she comes out after they speak, to maybe a decision or none at all, and nbc's kelly o'donnell following the president in bridgewater, new jersey, and thank you. and now i would like to bring in brian ser really, and anita kumar and the university of alabama law professor joyce vance, and because we were coming off of the live pictures and hearing from the am bbassad

of the united nation, and one of the questions looking at the white house, and the positioning of the united states in the security kourn sicouncil, and ka want to have your thoughts of what we might hear from nikki haley and what might come from the meeting based on what happened with north korea. >> richard, facts are facts, and the fact is that they are using the intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the chinese have refused to say that is the type of missile they are using. it is going to be interesting to see how the russians and the chinese respond to this meeting that is currently underway at the united nations. and we should also note that when you are talking about the sanctions on north korea, there is no question that you have to look at china specifically with the economic relationship that they have with north korea. north korea, alone, richard, when you are look at the exporting, and the importing numbers, 80%, and more than 80% of the exports and the imports from north korea come from

china. and that is why you saw the treasury secretary steven ma nucci kne mamnuchin announce the sanctions because those are very, very connected between north korea and china. >> and so, welcome into the panel, and the two guests did not know we were going to be talking about this, but i will go to you, joyce, and when we are looking at the questions about michael flynn, and the grr grand juries, and bob mueller, and what does it mean then that we are getting the reporting that the grand juries are now working with the special counsel, and what does that mann in terms of capability? >> so, it means that the mueller is not investigating just one crime, but that he has assembled a team that is capable of looking at a lot of lines of

allegations simultaneousesly. this original grand jury in the eastern district of virginia that was looking at allegations about flynn has been incorporated into mooueller's operation, and we know that he has brought over to the prosecutor from the u.s. attorney's office in the eastern district of virginia running that case, and as these investigative opportunities continue, we are now starting to to see in the press reports from people who have been interviewed by mueller's team about flynn's history with the interaction of other countries so that we know that the white house or rather that mooueller is beginning to look at whether or not flynn had contacts and received payments from russian entities as well as turkish ones? >> and joyce, does that mean that the special counsel can move faster and moving closer to

indictments or typically is grand juries brought on later in the processes or wa what does this mean in terms of the timing? >> sure. i would not read too much into this for timing or think that the indictment is imminent, and grand juries are investigative tools for pros ecutors. >> and got it. and a anita, the worry from the white house, and the president i was saying this week, you know, it is not worried about it, if you will, and remembered that he was speaking earlier in the week, and mentioning, any russian, and he was joking about it. it is to the crowd that he was talking to, and should this president be more concerned now that special counsel mueller is working with two grand juries. >> and he is not saying, but he is worried, and what it tells us is that it is beyond just the scope of whether the russians meddled in the election, and way beyond, that and it is involving joyce said, multiple possible crimes, and the fact that they are looking at michael flynn, and there is a couple of possibilities there, and both of

the connections, and the meetings with the russians during the transition before the election, and also his financial dealings, and that is exactly what president trump has been saying for weeks. >> stand by one second, because i apologize and i want to go back straight to the united nations, and debating to be making moves on north korea, and nikki haley is the ambassador of the united states speaking. >> fwanls at the north korea regime, and the price they will pay for the continued nuclear missile development is the loss of one-third of the exports, and hard currency. this is the most stringent set of sanctions on any country in a generation. the sanctions will cut deep, and in doing so, it will give the north korean leadership a taste of the deprivation they have chosen into flikt on the north korean people. nuclear and ballistic missile development is expensive and the

revenues that the north korean government receives is not going towards feeding its people, and instead, the north korean regime is literally starving the people and enslaving them in mines and factories in order to fund these illegal nuclear programs. even as famine looms on the hor rye soison, and the re -- horizon, and regime is asking for funds to cope with a possible drought later in the year, and their discretions takes precedence over their own people. as we respond to the the north korean threat, the united states will continue to stand up for the human dignity and the rights of the north korean people. it is the continued suffering of the north korean people that should remind the security ko council that while this resolution is a significant step forward, it is not nearly enough. the threat of an outlaw nuclek r

nuclearized regime continues. the regime is showing that widespread violations of human rights go hand in hand with threats to international peace and security. i thank each and every one of my colleagues who worked so hard to bring this resolution to a vote. i have previously voted out that china has a critical role to play on the matters related to north korea. i want to personally thank the chinese delegation for the important contributions they made to the resolution. while the security council has done good work, the members of the security council and all of the u.n. member states must do more to increase the pressure on north korea. we must work together to fully implement the sanctions that we impose today and those imposed in past resolutions. the step that we take together today is an important one. but we should not fool ourselves into thinking that we have solved the problem. not even close. the north korean threat has not

left us. it is rapidly growing more dangerous. we have seen two icbms fired in the last month. further action is required. the united states is taking, and will continue to take prudent defensive measures to protect yourselves and our allies. our annual joint military exercises for instance are transparent, and defense orient and carried out reg ularly and openly for nearly 40 year, and they will continue. our goal continues a stable k e korean peninsula, and at peace without nuclear weapons. we want only security and pr prospers for the kcountries. and today is a good day at the united nation, and we need many more such days to peacefully

resolve the crisis created by north korea's dangerous, and illegal actions. as i have said before, time is short, but today, we have taken one step in the right direction. thank you again to my colleagues and the teams for their action and support for sending a strong message to the north korean regime. there is the ambassador to the united nations, nikki haley from the united states speaking, and announcing what is a big deal. because in most situations, you would not see the security ko council, especially with the issues are related to russia, and china being able to move forward on something that is as these new sanctions are against north korea. still with is, anita kumar, i want to kick it off with you, and pretty surprising, right? russia and china, again, moving a ale longside the united states and saying, yes, new sanctions to north korea, anita.

>> yes, right. the talk by nickki haley, an ambassador haley was tough, but it is what you would expect, because president trump has said that it is one of the biggest threats and that president obama did not act forcefully enough, and he would push china to act, and they are following through on that. >> and to you, kevin, what may have happen ed ed in the backgr to get this to work? because we are not absent of the reality of the relationships that i just brought up between russia, and the united states, and china and the united states, and just within the last week or so where the semantics were not positive, but here in the united nations, getting something done. >> richard, it was days ago when the secretary of state rex tillerson said that china and russia were economic enablers of the north korean dictatorship, and regime. you saw a clear description from am b ambassador haley in which she

said that the north e krooians were using their military nuclear weapons program to grow the economy and not take care of the millions of workers within their own country. and you saw from ambassador haley, a sign of of gratitude to the chinese which is remarkable. and the report is a uninous vote from the united nations which including the russians and the chinese clearly working together which comes after the week where there were some signs of space of economic issues between the chinese and the united states, and clearly, a big day for ambassador haley and the administration. >> and kevin, looking at the last 20 years with the top tick of north korea, the united states, russia, and china have not been able to come together on just about anything. this white house is difficult of those processes and saying, hey, we have to do something different, and what do we know of in terms of the

administrations they did differently to get this very uncommon ingagreement done? >> well, when you are talking to the folks behind the scenes, they have been pressing china for months in order to say, l k look, if you want this trade agreement or the domestic trade issues, and there is a lot of controversy in the economic world about those relationships, and particularly on the issue of the steel and the auto industry, and then, and farming to some extent, but then what they said, we have to juxtapose foreign policy with the economic policy, and quite frankly, richard, i think that with the olympics around the corner in south korea, i think that there is a growing push now from the international community, and if you are look at the numbers of what the dictator in north korea, and the brass and the brazen neness in which they hav been firinging off the missiles, and the frequent circumstances it is alarming, and we should note the importance of china and rush sharks and ambassador haley working behind the scenes to put

these sanctions behind them. >> and another issue is how real these icbms are when tested by the north koreans, and in addition to the the head nods of the lethality of the icbms, it is not going to do it all, and the west needs to continue in the way that is looking at north korea, it has to include the soft power, and also, included by sweden, and more creative other than sanctions. >> and you heard am bbassador haley talk about, that and she said and she was thankful that this was such a good day. it is a buying deal, and you will hear president trump talking about how good timing for him to talk about that this happened, but yes, she said, this is not enough. we have a lot of work to do, and she hopes bert days, and more days at the u.n., and don't expect them to stop working on this, both, because it is a serious threat, and also because

they have had said they would work on this. this is a promise from the administration. >> all right. great crew to with us, kevin, a an anina and joyce covering all of the breaking news this sat tai. thank you, all three. thank you for staying with us, and if you are just joining us, again, we are watching the breaking news coming out of the security council to unanimously vote to apply new sanctions against north e krooia, and importai im -- north korea, and that is a very important benchmark, and we will have more here on msnbc. shoulders don't just carry pads.

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and now, welcome back as the pacific islanders are the next big fight as the justice department is investigating universities to to see if they discriminate against applicants based on the race. the d.o.j. is looking into a 2015 complaint which accuses harvard university of discriminating against

asian-pacific islander students. they claim they have 67% lower odds of admission than white applicants with comparable test scores and alleges to be on the equal footing, the asian students must score 140 points higher than the white student, and 270 higher than the hispanic, and 450 higher than the african-american students, and a harvard spokesman denied the 2015 allegation, and told the nos the new york that they were on average. and we bring in our two guests

to talk about this. and so, when you are looking at, this how legally or how difficult is it to prove here discrimination against harvard at the moment, because then the decision will of course have a rolling effect across the country. >> so, richard, last year the supreme court noted how important it is to have a leadership to pipeline for military and education. and so you can take into account race to promote student diversity, and thaf decision, it is difficult to demonstrate that the efforts by harvard that include looking at a whole student are going to be something that is contrary to their ability to do what the supreme court just said last year they could do. >> and nancy, what are you watching in this case? because it is not an issue that has been unseen before over the years. and affirmative action, and wildly debated across the

country. >> so, affirmative action has been an issue for the past 20 years, and excuse me, 40er year, and the supreme court has been saying it is constitutional for the past 40 year, and 40 different case, but what is different about the way that the case is framed is that for the first time we are seeing the focus on asian american students as plaintiffs, and that is a new move by the conservatives who oppose affirmative action. >> and interesting that you bring it up in the op-ed that you wrote in the washington p s post, that there is a certain political bent behind the move here, and by looking at the opposite side of the argument, that the outcome may be that the desired outcome that conservatives want. i screwed that up, but please, clarify it for me. >> and sure. it is important the look at the m motives here. if you are looking at the conservative platform on issues like the voting right, and the immigration, and whole array of issues that the affect asian american, conservatives have not

historically shown concern to that demographic, but it is only when it comes to affirmative action, and we have predominantly white opponents of affirmative action opposing affirmative action policies, and this is despite the fact that depending on the survey that 2/3 of asian americans said that they do support affirmative action programs designed to increase racial diversity at college campuses. >> in one of the arguments on this very topic in california where you will see certain asian american and other communities saying that we don't like affirmative action, because it is making it more difficult to get in, and similar to the article related here in harvard? >> in both of the instances as just talked about, the ability to have a racially diverse campus benefits all students. because the increase of violence

we have seen around the country, and for people to learn together and play together later on is x extremely important, in california and massachusetts are as separated they have been in 1970 at the k-123 level, so it is incredibly important that the case for many students to have the chance to be around other racial backgrounds is in college and it sis important for them t have that experience. >> one of the developments as affirmative action policies have been adjusted over to the years, nancy, with those rules being adjusted, you have some campuses now, majority or the almost majority asian americans or pacific islanders on the campus, and by the rule of diversity, that anna marina was alluding to, is that good to have that

type of diversity? >> well, first of all, people like to the talk about asian americans and islanders as if it is one homogeneous group as if everybody is the same, but it is not the case at all. we have east asian, and japanese, and southeast asharngs and south asians -- >> and 56 origin countries by the measure of the united natio nations. 56 origin countries. >> right. and it is incredibly diverse group, and the experiences of the group are very different. just as an example the vast majority of the east asian students or the families of the east asian students do have college degrees whereas for other communities like the loasian communities it is 30%, so it is a lot of diversity within that particular group. >> and now, the last word, part of the diversity, and even though we are talking about a lot of asian americans and loatians getting into major

public colleges and all said, many of them go to community colleges and so it is not the model minority that many are making it out to be. >> yes, and nancy is absolutely right, that there is such diversity among the asian-pacific, and the islander population and where they go to schools, and most of the students are not going to be going to selective institution, and what we need to do around the country is to make sure that the students regardless of where they are going are prepared to work in our business and communities today, and if they are going to be going to community colleges or going to the select four-year institution, and the chance to do it, and the chance to do it with the other racial backgrounds is incredibly importa important. >> and thank you so much, two great minds on this topic. you both have a great saturday. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> all right. talk about a good week for the economy and first a historic high for the dow, and the then another good jobs report, and next, what all of this good news may mean for you.

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i'm richard lui in new york city. we have breaking news if you are joining us and this happened in the last 25 minutes the u.n. security kocouncil and all arms raised here unanimous to adopt tougher economic sanctions on north korea in the realm of $3 billion we are talking about after kim jong-un conducted intercontinental ballistic missiles here, and live pictures from the u.n. security council and they gathered 3:00 the top of the the hour, and immediately took to the vote, and i was showing you and got it done, the draft resolution banning new joint ventures and any new in s investments in any other countrieses, and we will have more developments on the benchmark agreement, and very uncommon that we have seen happy today at the united nations security council on this saturday. >> the labor department released the jobs report friday and you might have seen it, because it provided some good news for the trump administration.

the employers added 209,000 jobs and beating the expectation. the unemployment rate dipped to 4.3%, and the average hourly earnings increased by nine percent, and just over 2%, and president trump went to twitter after the report was released. excellent jobs numbers have been released and i have only just begun. the movement back to the usa. and also this the week, the dow jones industrial hitting a new milestone. yep, 22,000, and that tlehresho was made for the very first time. most americans not feeling the benefits specifically from the stock market. gallop says this, stock ownership before 2008 was 62%, and today, it is only 54% of americans who are invested in the market, and that is down 8%. and now, joining me is chuck harris who is former acting secretary of labor under

president obama. what is interesting here at a these numbers, secretary, what do they mean? are they good? are we at full employment? is we are seeing the largest number of americans employed ever. >> it is true, and it is a mixed report, richard. on the job side, thing s as are looking actually pretty good, and 209,000 jobs in july is a healthy number. we saw more people in the labor market, and the ton unemploymen rate go down, and -- >> 2.6, right? >> yes, 2.6, but if you are taking into account inflation over the course of the last year, the workers have been less than one percent pay increase, and 25% per hour for the the average worker, and that is not much money for the people driving the economy, and spending is what allows the economy to grow, and that is a big part of why the growth has been so mediocre in the last few

years is that the working families don't have enough money to spend, and they have been suffering from the stagnant wages for decades. >> and secretary, that is the question. the wage growth. is it happening in the lower third of america or happening in the upper third of america? >> well, for decades and decades, the overwhelming majority of the wage increase, and the income increase, and the wealth increases went not only to the top third, but the top one percent, and the top one perce percent, and we are have seen the lesser paid workers and lower paged workers doing better and accelerating the wages slightly more, but they have so much catching up to do, and so many challenges that they face, that we are going to have to have sustained significant real wa wages growth for them to feel it in a long time to go. >> and mr. secretary, are we seeing that because of the last six months of the policy movement, and lack thereof or the consistent of the carryover, and we know that the economic

cycles are long. >> yes, and to say that it has nothing whatsoever to do with donald trump, and the best thing that you can say about president trump is that he has not screwed up the economy yet, although he has tried. we have had 82 consecutive months of job growth in the economy, which is a record for the country, and it started obviously in president obama's first term as we were emerging from the great recession. and president trump has frankly done nothing to create jobs and particularly the critical middle-wage middle-kiskilled js but to the send out tweets. >> it is has been a hockey sticks when we are looking at the jobs creation, and when we are looking forward to what might be a good indicator, i am a watching the manufacturing jobs and i understand that these are the kind of the not cool thing to the watch, and most will say, silicon valley, but the manufacturing jobs again in the last year, excuse me, this calendar year, only one month of a downturn of manufacturing

jobs, and a note, and another bump in manufacturing, and over 12.5 million people in the country in that space, so we should be watching it, shouldn't we? >> well, i agree with you that manufacturing is important, and construction jobs are very important, and these are traditionally the jobs that are middle-waged and middle-skilled jobs that the workers can do if they have a high school diploma, but not a college degree. they come with pensions, health insurance, and paid leave and the kinds of the benefits that the middle-class workers need and expect. there are other jobs in the economy that provides that support, but the kinds of growth in the retail jobs and the food and drink establishments are not low wage or middle skilled jobs, because we need to be concerned about that growth in that part of the economy, and not that there is anything wrong wit, but that is not going to be rebuilding the middle-class. >> and another part is the retail sales and the big box and

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pull out directly. they have until next year to k make it, and they have a legal right to allow the attorneys general to intervene in a lawsuit over the payments which are called the cost sharing reductions or the ss csrs, and so they are asking them to stop the csrs to destablize the market and anger the constituents as well. but it seems that more people approve of the obamacare than disapprove. and let's bring in pete emerson, and hadley heath manley, dr director of policy for the independent women's forum, and great to have you both, and hadley, what is your reflection on this lawsuit, and this ruling, and what it might mean? >> right. it is a complicated legal battle, and the house initially filed the lawsuit against the the obama administration for spending money in the cost

sharing reductions that was never appropriated by the congress that passed the affordable care act, and previous congress, and now we have a new congress and new white house who are still engaged in a legal battle with the attorneys general, and concerns that neither party wants to fight for the cost sharing reductions. about the cost sharing reductions, and it is important for people to understand what they are, they are a government solution to a government-created problem. the reason that we have high out of pocket costs because when the government said that insurance plans have to cover a-b-c-d, the insurers looked to narrow the networks or cut the coverage on other a areas. >> and peter, so what is your reflection on the latest decision? >> i noticed that particularly the courts ruled with some economic emphasis that without protection, each state could be burden tord bankrued or bankrupg

to step in, and what is important is that the debate of health care has been going on since i severed in the carter administration when health care costs were the second part of the inflation, and the debate going on now has nothing to do with health care, but it has to do with the real attempt to get a tax cut. the republicans cannot get their tax cut unless they reduce the health care costs which means that reducing the health care for millions and millions of americans. >> and many drivers, but that is what appears to be one of them including the benefits that come from the latest bill from the senate. hadley, i want to move on to this question, and that is if nothing is done, obamacare on the private side, it will have great difficulty. many reports that there will be either one insurer or potentially zero insurers in many of the counties across the country, and so then, what is the step here as we are trying to move forward? >> right.

so i mentioned the cost sharing reductions are a government solution to a government-created problem, and we should go upstream to see what the root cause of that problem is. i want to agree with peter that the debate is not about health care, but it generally health insurance, and health insurance laws ash and what we need to do is to address the high cost of insurance coverage for so many millions of americans is undo many of the harmful regulations that have caused the premiums to skyrocket, and increasing 105% -- >> what would you look at? >> for example, i would allow the insurance companies to rate the policies according to age like they did before the affordable care act which requires the insurance companies to charge the youngest consumers about one-third of what they charge the oldest consumers which does not reflect the consumption of the health care services between the youngest, and the oldest and part of the reason why you will see the pools in the affordable care act exchanges are skewed ward

towards the older and less healthy enrollees and that is a death spiral on the exchanges. >> peetser, i know that you have a reaction to the word death spiral, because we have heard that before, and wasn't the f s philosophy of the aca looking at different subsegments and flattening out the costs and flatten the revenue? >> well, that is the theory, and let's agree that it is not working as it should, but millions of americans have health care coverage that they d didn't have before, and i also want to refer all of us to the statement made by kellyanne conway if people can't afford medicaid, they should get a job. that is the most sort of the vile statement that i have heard of late, and one thing they think that could work very well is that if the president who promised during the campaign to negotiate fapharmaceutical cost got actively engaged, and pharmaceutical costs may be the highest cost of health care at the moment. so if that were to -- >> is that the right person,

peter, though, to engage this topic? for your idea, shouldn't it be congress? >> well, he made the promise in the campaign that he would negotiate pharmaceutical costs down, and i am merely holding him to the promise, but yes, of course, at the end of the day, and that is a failure of obamacare that the whole issue of pharmaceutical costs was not addressed properly. >> last word to you here, hadley, is that an idea that you would agree with? >> well, certainly pharmaceutical costs need to be address and i understand that the americans pay a great cost for drugs we consume and some of them because the research and the development costs and the innovation where the american countries are the tip of the spear in terms of the providing new solutions and cures to serious diseases, but in regards to what miss conway said, we need to get a wway from the employer centric health system to begin with, and i would not suggest that people need to get a job to get health insurance, and obama doubled down on that

with the employer mandate. and so people should have the freedom to purchase plans to suit their own needs and budget s, and getting away from the employer centricity is going to do a lot to insure competition, and better prices. >> you agree with that, peter, employer centricity and so instead of the four, you go for the nine? >> well, everything has a cost. and as you said in the segment before with the former acting director of labor points out, the middle-class people, and not just the poor people, but middle class people don't have the money, and there is a story in senator franken's book that people have to choose between food and medicine for their children. that is unaccept isable in america today. >> thank you both for the conversati conversation. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you.

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us. what does it mean to be a global citizen? >> being a global citizen means that you are joining a social action platform aimed at ending extreme poverty by 2030. it's about taking action, not raising money. so this is done by doing things like tweeting world leaders or signing petitions rather than giving their own money. and since 2010, global citizens have actually taken over 11 million actions so those are those tweet, signing the petitions which has resulted in other than $30 billion in financial commitments. they can be used for a wide range of things. if you're a global citizen, you can focus on anything that you care about. so health priorities like vacinnations, women and girls' safety, drinking water, is an tar sanitation, toilets. so that there are real definitions of success.an sanitation, toilets. so that there are real definitions of success. for example, global citizens education goal is to secure $3.2

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