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counsel robert mueller is trump's former national security adviser michael flynn and then the nation's top intelligence officials announcing this crackdown about leaks coming from within the federal government to the press. >> if you improperly disclose classified information, we will find you. we will investigate you, we will process duties you to the fullest extent of the law and you will not be happy with the result. >> let's get right to it with the breaking news from the u.n. securities council taking this dramatic measure. the vote about north korea today. it just happened within the past hour, the 15 member body voting for slashing a billion dollars of north korea's annual export revenue. it's a rare display of diplomatic unity. the u.s. sponsorin ining the resolution. we have president trump spending this 17 day vacation at the golf
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course property that he owns in bed minister in new jersey. and joining us not far from there is kelly o'donnell. so kelly, explain how this is seen as a victory for the president and important as we see these 15 member nations voting for these sanctions. >> reporter: perhaps the biggest foreign policy crisis for the trump administration is dealing with north korea. we've seen the president already use some of his capital early in his administration trying to get china's help by hosting the chinese president. and he's expressed frustration toward china for not doing more. so given the fact that this is something that is high on his agenda and there are new provocations from north korea that are very worrisome with the ability they have shown testing an intercontinental ballistic missile more than once now with a capability to reach the united states. could they put a nuclear pay load on that. that is the big question. and so with nikki haley as the
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u.s. ambassador to the u.n., the united states was pushing the other member nations to do something, to send a stronger signal. it's always difficult to get the cooperation of china and russia in these instances, but given the fact that these tests are such a flagrant violation of international norms, there is a moment here and so nikki haley along with other partners, they are putting into place some sans that go at about a third of north korea's revenue from exports. so that is severe economic, covers from coal to seafood and affects that regime's ability to transport workers, laborers, too other countries for a price. here is how nikki haley sizes up what was at stake today. >> north korea's irresponsibility and careless acts have just proved to be quite costly to the la regime. this is the single largest economic sanctions package ever
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leveled against>zd the price the north korean leadership will pay for its continued nuclear and missile development will be the loss of one-third of its export and hard currency. >> reporter: you get a sense of how they are trying to leverage north korea by putting this sort of economic pressure by cutting off pathways to bring in revenue. the country is already starved in so many ways based on the regime's handling of this that they are hoping that this will turn the page. it's unclear how kim jong-un will respond, but this is significant as a victory for the trump administration, but much more broadly for the global community that is trying to put a cap on these provocations and to deter the nuclear ambitions of north korea when you consider how unpredictable that regime has been and the risk that it poses. so a significant day today with this action. >> and we had the tweet from the president talking about china not really doing its part in
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helping like the president thinks that thatthwarting north. but explain when it comes to the vacation, explain the number of folks if we know from the west wing entourage that will be a part of this working vacation. do we have numbers on that? >> reporter: we don't have specific numbers, but i can tell you that the president and all of his staff are required to be out of the white house for a couple of weeks. those that remained in d.c. will work in adjacent buildings that are part of the white house complex. that is because there is construction going on and systems renovation and loud noisy dirty projects taking operation. the oval office has been removed of all the furniture, things like that. so it was long planned, this goes back brefly t previously the bush administration also did capital improvements and this was something that they had to schedule and with the
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alternative of bedminster, they decided to do it here and now. his chief of staff 1 here, national security team, other members of the com shop that we interact with every day are here. we understand that there will be a bit of rotation of who is here over the next two week. lawmakers are invited, stwraera exceptions are expected. it is officially vacation, but motivated while the work is being done. >> and kind of like where you get three days and 1,000 bucks to do the rooms. kelly o'donnell reporting from close to medicbed minister. thank you. joining me is former u.s. cooper and political editor and a national security correspondent for politico. great to have you all with me. let's dive into the breaking news and the u.s. drafting the resolution and it goes into exports of coal, lead, seafood, new investments in north korea,
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increasing the number of workers for other countries. how major of a piece of>own unis being demonstrated by the 15 nations who vote for the sanctions which do include russia and china? this is a win for what could be president trump's major foreign concerns with north korea. >> well, certainly not a loss, right? i mean, secretary tillerson has 1rf(áárqáhjz board with these sanctions. but the problem is there have already been lots of sanctions against the regime and hopyongyg and it didn't seem to have deterred them from continuing their nuclear tests. on we'll s so we'll see if this does better. >> it's movement from dip diplomacy is left on the stable because there is an economic impact that will be felt by nor.
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this is already a poor nation for many of its people. this is really going to either work to scare the north korean government or it could have the opposite effect which is to embolden them into more provocations. as matthew was saying, sanctions haven't really worked in the past. is this just doing more of the same? >> that is part of it. historically sanctions, economic sanctions like this have not really deterred the north koreans whatsoever from pursuing this path. however, what is important moving forward is that there is clearly this potential for unity even among powers that don't necessarily agree on much. so for there to be a unanimous vote here, fwraps we're not talking about moving forward on a diplomatic solution between the u.s. and north korea, but there is clearly a consensus among diplomatic powers both in the region and globally to do something about north korea. so that i think is the most forward looking that we can be
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out of this. >> russia is on board with this and major headlines this week out of robert mueller's investigation, but this is a time where the president was critical against the sanctions that were drafted by congress and implemented where he pushed back saying in a our relationship with russia is strained, we can thank congress for that. you about i want you to take a listen to kellyanne conway about the russian investigation under mueller.about i want you to tak listen to kellyanne conway about the russian investigation under mueller. >> the fact is that this white house and everybody involved has said that they would comply and share whatever information that they do have. but on this matter of the investigation, ty cobb, a special counsel to the president, has said that anything that accelerates the process we are for and we will continue to cooperate. >> so we know from the attorney's stand point, i mean that answer is what they should be saying. pretty neutral and they look forward to playing along and
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making sure that every i is dotted, every t is crossed. but we do know mueller has made this request of the white house for documents. do you expect trump staffers to comply? >> you would expect in a normal white house that there would be compliance with the request from prosecutors for information that was critical to an investigation. i think where we'll see action here is we'll find out whether folks inside of the white house will voluntarily speak with mueller's team or whether we'll see mueller begin to issue grand jury subpoenas in essence compelling potential witnesses to speak with him. >> and when it comes to in the mind of being a federal prosecutor, just take us into this room and explain how1w+a grand jury is requested, while they are doing this kind of work, not to drink in arrest absorb news skuncoverage of wha they might be asked to take under consideration. >> so it's a little bit different when you're sitting on
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a grand jury which typically includes 32 private citizens than when you are sitting on a trial jury. trial juries are prohibited from listening to news about a case. they are finders of fact and they are supposed to learn those facts only from proceedings in court. grach grach grand juries too are required to evaluate only the evidence presented to them. but they can either finks are r evaluate only the evidence presented to them. but they can either finks fuchks as an investigative body helping with the taking of testimony from$bñ witnesses and with subpoenas issued for documents and other records, and they also be called upon to bring an indictments. and do that, they have to find that there is probable cause to indict a defendant on the charges contained within the indictments. so it's important that they focus on information presented to them within the confines of the grand jury room. >> so we know that this grand
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jury does not mean that indictments are necessarily coming. but this is what would be the next trigger point in all of this and matthew, as joyce is talking about how the grand jury would differ from a trial jury, there is the cover of news week, your magazine and it shows donald trump with the title lazy boy showing him in a la-z-boy recliner, diet coke, container from mcdonald's on the floor. what was the -- do you know some of the editorial decision making behind this cover? obviously this be not be showing up on the wall of a trump property. >> most likely. well, it was thoughts of my colleague about the president's work has been bits and about the amount of golf time he's had after having been critical of president obama's golfing. so we had some fun and it seems
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to have gone pretty viral. back to the grand juries, i had to testify before one and i thinks old adage in a their compliance with whatever the prosecutor wants is pretty correct. but i found them to be very engaged. and they are quite active part pabts participants in the process. >> and we know the notice that the media was put onpart participants in the process. >> and we know the notice that the media was put onart participants in the process. >> and we know the notice that the media was put onrt participants in the process. >> and we know the notice that the media was put ont participants in the process. >> and we know the notice that the media was put on participants in the process. >> and we know the notice that the media was put on from jeff sessions talking about leaks and the fact that this week that those transcripts of the call with australia's turnbull and mexico's nieto were released, the president kind of neutralizes the fact that he was calling reports of those original calls as fake news. but now they have come out. how concerned are reporters in d.c. about the type of message that the doj is sending to
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reporters about leaks, about their coverage? >> i think specifically as a national security reporter on this beat and snag is a relatively small beat and we've all talked about this, and something we were concerned about under the obama administration, too, frankly, but particularly since january i think we've all particularly on this beat covering russia or something that we know the trump white house does not like, it's something that i think we're always cognizant of and there is always this question of how far the trump administration will be willing to go. so the sessions talk to us i think yesterday was raff disconcerting certainly as a reporter to hear those kinds of threats be verbalized by a high level u.s. official. >> i know we're living in pretty hot times when it comes to journalist journalistic objectivity and
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with the full scaramucci piece and the different things that we've had too cover this light of some of the curve balls provided to us. cover this lighf some of the curve balls provided to us. great to have you all with me. thank you very much. right now we have the search and rescue operations under way to flee u.s. marines missing after their aircraft crashed off the coast of australia p. a live yut dave update next. and slashing the number of immigrants allowed into the country. what potential immigrants may somewhere to prove to earn their way in after this. 's time to rek what's possible. rethink the experience. rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief uses unique mistpro technology and helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. rethink your allergy relief.
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hatchi ihappening now, sear rescue taking place for three marines. their aircraft crashing in to
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the sea. the other 23 were rescued. our national producer is joining us by phone. courtney, i understand you have new details? >> yeah, i'm learning more about the time line of what happened here. so it was a little after 2:00 a.m. eastern time when this mv-22s osprey hit the flight dk and went into the bay. there were 26 marines on board thes the osprey and all 26 went into the water. 23 have been recovered. one with an injury nonlife threatening, but they are since searching for the remaining three who have not yet been found. >> okay. keep us posted and we will come back if you get new information.
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thank you very much. courtney kube, appreciate it. so we watched with president trump introducing new immigration reforms that would cut legal immigration in a half and favor educated english speaking immigrants. so the so-called merit based system would be a shift away from the current policy of admitting people with family members already in the u.s. and as a way to help curb welfare fraud. >> you can't just come in like in past weeks, years and decades. you come in immediately start picking up welfare for five years, you have to say you will not be asking or using our welfare systems. >> so we have the president getting pushback from members of his own party with senators lindsey graham, tim scott and jeff flake all having spoken against the r.a.i.s.e. act. take a listen. >> the argument is that these
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foreign workers have hurting american wages and job opportunities. and i think that is not accurate. >> the legal immigration system has not been the focus nor has it been the problem for us the last several years. >> i think this would cut to about half of our current legal immigration. just isn't the right direction for the economy. >> the new wree forms are being initiated by gone senators tom cotton and david perdue suggesting another contentious issue ahead. leeann caldwell is joining us. with republicans coming out against this as we hear there on the immigration bill, do e current interest in the draft of this r.a.i.s.e. act? >> yeah, it's definitely not a priority for republicans right now. they just left town for over a month. and what they would like do when they come back is continue to focus on the issues at hand. they want to focus on tax reform and things that they need to pass before the end of the year,
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immigration from the president kind of came out of nowhere for them, and so they just want to put this aside for now and not have to deal with it. >> and when it comes to paul ryan, he spoke out to the milwaukee journal sentinel reporting saying i think it's arbitrary cuts to legal imgra immigrati immigration, boomers retiring and leaving the workforce, we will still have labor shortages in certain areas and that is where well reformed legal immigration system should be able to mak up te up the differ. so obviously thisg$hkç is just idea and republicans don't have the appetite for it. >> that's right. and what this would do is changes face of immigration in it country. it would prioritize highly educate the english speaking immigrants and it would really penalize immigrants from latin america from asia from africa. and so with republicans not wanting to do this, i mean, republicans say that, yes, they
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could address the legal immigration system, but they would have to do it in concert with illegal immigration. they say that is the real problem. and what they really don't like is that it would cut legal immigration in half and they say that is not good for the economy. >> meanwhile the background, i mean this goes against president trump's back ground not only on his paternal side but his maternal family side as well with his mom being an immigrant from skots lacotland with $50. she did speak english. but his grandfather didn't speak english and was penniless. we knee that tow that the othere with the leaked conversations with australia's prime minister and the president of mexico were big concern for this white house especially the conversation with mexico's president knee tee ope saying this wall won't happen.
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what is the cost of this conversation going public not only the fact that it discredits them saying that it was fake news when it was reported the first time, but also brings into the question the president's genuine willingness to want to move forward with this. >> yeah, i mean the political capital that trump could lose if mexico doesn't pay for this wall could be kind of big. trump admitted that in those transcripts. but if mexico didn't pay for the wall and the wall actually gets built, then that means that the american taxpayers 1r to phave for the wall. and at this point even members of congress republicans and democrats say this they don't really want to pay for it either. a down payment was put down, but only about 1 wld and thbuild am
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have a couple senators introduced a bill that would fund $15 billion for border security and none of that is for the physical construction of a border wall. so that is just another kick into trump's plan as far as immigration is concerned and trump is really trying to appease his base not only with these changes to the legal immigration system, but also with the construction of a border wall. >> leeann caldwell in d.c. for us, thanks so much. appreciate it. coming up next, back to the justice department stepping into this debate over affirmative action on college campuses. plus, as many people are lining up for free medical care in oklahoma, congress is taking a break for the summer without the new health care in place. and a new health care plan to move forward. but we take a closer look at the actual needs across the country. ♪
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here is what we're watching for you. north korea facing sweeping economic sanctions that could slash a billion dollars in their export revenue. the united nations security do you know sticounsel voted to ad the sanctions in response to their ballistic missile testing. and the fbi is investigating a mosque in minnesota. it is unclear what caused the explosion. and we have rescue teams and search crews out trying to search the sea of on f of easte australia in a mishap. 22 service men were on board. three are missing right now.
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people with medical issues are struggling to find proper care. and hundreds started lining up early this morning to find out about different opportunities for care in oklahoma. and i understand you're joined, by one of the volunteers? >> reporter: yeah, we are. and it really does take an army of volunteers to make this happen. this is a remote medical. and they put up these pop-up clinics all over the country. they do about two per month. right now we're in the dental clinic area. but there are other rooms where they are doing health consultations, and also some vision tests. but joining me is somebody who volunteered to come down here all the way from chicago. thanks so much for being with us, dave. why did you decide to come down here to do some of this work today? >> well, remote area medical does fantastic work. we offer clinics across the country for our citizens who can't afford to go to a doctor, can't afford access to health
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care, maybe couldn't afford the prescriptions. and it makes a huge difference to the folks. >> and you work as a nurse in your regular job and in your off time, you come here to do this work. why? >> well, i'm blessed in what i do. i have a wonderful job back home working ats a nurse in a xrefr s correctional facility. and we live in the greatest country in the world. when i know our citizens are struggling wi40'puái care issues and they needs help and i can make a difference, i find it important to come and provide that difference wherever possible. >> what have you seen here today? >> i've seen a lot of folks who are struggling with diabetes, a couple problems with dental issues, so they can get it addressed right now. and we've ladhad a great turnou they have taken advantage of free pan smears and hepatitis testing. >> and there is a debate about health care. what do you when you are at the grass roots level?
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>> it's trust trafrustrating. i would strongly encourage president trump and members of congress to see first hand what our citizens are going through. again, we live in the greatest country in the world and there is no need for us to be suffering like this. >> dave, thank you so much for joining us. he came all the way from chicago and people have come up from. m mississippi, from atlanta just to volunteer. and by the way even though the name has remote in it, they also do these clinics in urban areas. at the end of the month they are doing one in washington, d.c. which just goes to show that the need for accessible health care isn't just a rural area, but also one you find in cities. >> the need for people to have access to that and also the need for good people like dave that are skilled to come out and help. it's fantastic. thank you. so price of admission, this new discussion about affirmative action in higher education. what the department of justice is investigating and how it could impact future college
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the justice department is pushing back against a report that it plans to go after universities about its address mission policies that discriminal nas against whites applicants. the "new york times" is reporting seeking lawyers interested in participating in a new proper jeblgject. but the doj says that it was for volunteers to investigate a racial discrimination complaint against har vard university. the justice department says it has not issued any policy changes and is committed to protecting all americans from race based discrimination.
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thanks for joining me. brenda, on the doj denying the reports this week, but in 2015, then candidate trump signaled that he was okay with the idea of affirmative action. take a look. >> i'm fine with affirmative action. >> expand it or be limited? >> well, you have to also go for market, you have to go k5 capability, but i'm fine with affirmative action. i lived with it for a long time and i've had great relationships with lots of people. so i'm fine with it. >> so we have the do jchlts saying this is in-being inaccur. do you believe that they are committed to proestecting all americans? >> we are concerned that this announcement by the department of justice that it intends to
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assemble a team attorneys to investigate brace based admissions really represents another step forward in a rather aggressive campaign to roll back the civil rights of some of our most disadvantaged students. and this includes trans youth, women and girls and stucdents o color. of a f affirmative action still remains relevant. any effort to challenge race based admissions represents a step back from settled principles of constitutional and civil rights law. more importantly, it's important for us to remember that just last year in june of 2016, the supreme court did reaffirm that institutions are allowed to use race as one of many factors when considering which students to enroll at their institutions.
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more importantly, this step by the department of justice really demonstrates that they are taking measures that are inconsistent with a growing body, special science research that confirms that the benefits of integrative learning environments flow to all students. they benefit all students. >> let me jump in here for one second because we have the do jchlts pu democratj push back and they think affirmative action might need to be modernized. we would be ignorant to not recognize that affirmative action is necessary and still needed because we're not a beyond race society here in america. but you dive into your book that actually asian americans are held to a higher standard than even white applicants. so explain that contradiction or that contrast and also about
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where affirmative action could be improved. >> yeah, this is a complicated issue. it is my sense and there is a lot of evidence to support it that asian americans are discriminated against in college admissions. they are held to a higher standard. it seems that there is so many top asian american applicants that colleges tend to compare them with each other rather than against the pool at large. but that doesn't mean that it's fair to blame affirmative action for other minorities as the cause of this. i mean, in fact it make makes more sense to blame so-called white affirmative action which is preferences for children of alumni, children of big donors, recruited athletes in sports like golf or sailing or horse back riding that are predominantly white. there are an awful lot of applicants who get in through those routes as well. >> and from the legacy things, that is where the institutions
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find deep book ketstyja pocket. and t"the boston globe" reports that the first time majority of harvard class is nonwhite, 50.8 from minority groups. and when you think about that, and we know that affirmative action is in place, do you think that there would be a big recoil from that type of number if affirmative action would be stripped away? >> we understand that there are those who want to perpetuate the myth that affirmative action amounts to some sort of racial quota or works to the dids advantaged of qualified white or asian american applicants and this is simply untrue . empirical data demonstrates that the there are a number of asian americans who continue to
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benefit and require that race be considered as one of many factors in college admission decisions. and we understand that our i think that the evidence is going to demonstrate very clearly that harvard's admission policies are working to assemble an integrated learning virn m environment that is more reflective of the world that the students are living. >> and whatever happened to good grades and being a volunteer or having a summer job and a couple great letters of reference? doesn't that matter? >> well, those matter, grades and test scores and references still matter. but there is an awful lot of the entering class at elite universities that have other factors going for them which i described in my book, i call them the preferences of privilege. preferences i mention for alumni children and others. when you combine those with affirmative action, it's proiblt
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more than ha probably more than half the class is benefitting from some kind of preference or other which puts the squeeze on asian american candidates as well as kind of working middle class white candidates. as i say, in a society where we have greater in-quality than ever, i have a lot of sympathy for afternoof affirmative actio helps dids advantaged stuchbtss, a stuchbt students. >> and again they push back saying that the report is not accurate. it won't go away especially with this case moving forward with the 64 asian american associations against harvard university. brenda, daniel, thank you both. breaking news, more on the unanimous vote from the u.n. security council approving sanctions against north korea all because of their ballistic
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missile testing. so what could be north korea's next move? we'll talk about it after this. discover card. hey. what can you tell me about your new social security alerts? oh! we'll alert you if we find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky sites, so you'll be in the know. ooh. sushi. ugh. being in the know is a good thing. sign up online for free. discover social security alerts.
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the u.n. supreme court council adopting tougher sanctions against north korea a little over an hour ago. all aimed at striking back because of their ballistic missile testing and going straight for their money. this was a unanimous vote. 15 member nations approving the resolution drafted by the u.s. which brans ma bans many of thes export all in response to pyongyang's tam mintercontinent m&m. and $1 billion will be slashed from annual revenue. >> the council has matched its words and actions. the resolution we passed is a strong united step toward holding north korea acceptable for its behavior.
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>> the voting taking place what i will rex tillerson is in manila. and the main focus of which countries and their growing securities concerns overs isolated regime of kim jong-un. joining me now is our military analyst colonel jack jacobs. your reaction to the u.n.'s efforts and sanctions that diplomatic road once again going after money. do you think it will have an jong-un? >> i don't think so. these are just incremental increases of sanctions first of all. and second, north korea views having nuclear tipped missiles that can threaten the united states as an existential requirement and nothing short of an extraordinary effort to guarantee that north korea will be able to stay in business. alternatively or will keep them from carrying out what they are trying to carry out.
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these are just incremental differences in sanctions. >> russia and china voted in coordination with august tll th member nations. do you think with the president lashing out at china earlier this week that this is some type of psych along cological move f president and now the u.n. to get them more involved in this process especially for that region? >> yeah, they know they are supposed to be more involved. we have been talking about them being more involved, russia too by the way. but because of the incremental nature of these, i don't think it will have very much of an effect on china. china is very happy that we are not putting sanctions on them. and as long as china is capable of supporting north korea which it still is, i don't think china cares one way or the other. >> and let me get you on the record about afghanistan. we had reports earlier this tweak that president trump was threatening to fire the man in charge for that region. general john nicholson.hat pres
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threatening to fire the man in charge for that region. general john nicholson.weeak th threatening to fire the man in charge for that region. general john nicholson.that pre threatening to fire the man in charge for that region. general john nicholson. we just had fresh troops going over to afghanistan. do you see the president actually pulling that option of? >> i don't think so. the president says things and doesn't carry them out. and second already turned over to general mattis the capability of making all the decisions in this and other wars in which we're engaged. and i think, third, i think if the president decides to go ahead and fire nicholson without the concurrence of general mattis, i think there is a good chance he could say good-bye to general mattis as well. and i don't think he wants that. >> colonel jacobs, xwrats to ha great to have you we me. so next we have more on the breaking news, latest in the russia investigation. ie me.
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so next we have more on the breaking news, latest in the russia investigation. the me. so next we have more on the breaking news, latest in the russia investigation. me. so next we have more on the breaking news, latest in the russia investigation. >> nobody has ever said god, i wish i had jury duty. available. >> so with the grand jury in place, the late night comics are sounding off over robert mueller, his special counsel authority and grand jury in considering the evidence for the russia probe. and all joking aside, we talk about the investigation and where it stands right now, and what it means for this administration and relationships between the u.s. and russia, after this.
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so as we've been following the president is having troubles here at home over the ongoing russia investigation. but what about the view from russia itself? we know from medvedoffez not happy with the russian sanctions saying the president showed, quote, total weakness, what does
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this mean for the future relations between the two world's two greatest nuclear policies. senior solsy adviser for the counter extremism project, and so joining me now, tara, just from the u.n. voting in accordance with other member nations about the sanctions against north korea, that is a positive step between the u.s. and russia but we have the cbs news organization putting out this report raising eyebrow this is week saying that congressional investigators want to look at don jr.'s phone records and we know from the e-mails that he released that the exchanges with rob goldstone, who set up the meeting with the russian lawyer at trump tower, that don jr. had a phone call with agilarof, connected with putin that wanted to hook up the russian lawyer with the trump folks to give dirt on hillary. would incidental collection have picked up don jr. having conversations with a foreigner in russia or elsewhere?
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>> look, it is possible that collection could pick up a lot of conversations. at the end of the day, you have the investigation going on on one side of the equation, but you are right, today we had unanimous support for sanctions on north korea which is important and i think shows what is going on politically and what is going on with the investigation didn't impact what the u.s. was pushing for at the u.n. we got china on board and russia on board. so that is important to note. it was a good day on that front. and you also have the sanctions placed on russia so you didn't see the investigation rippling into effect policy -- almost unanimous on capitol hill and with regard to the phone calls, i think you will see a lot of requests being made as the investigation ramps up, you are going to see the request for a lot of information. whether that is behind the scenes intelligence or personal e-mail or phone records, that is what the fbi is well versed in. that is what mueller's background is extremely expert in and i think you're going to see a request for a lot of
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information and that will ultimately lead to a conclusion and the trump administration should be supportive of the investigation playing out. that is the only way they're going to either be cleared or they're going to find that there was some form of collusion or financial problems. >> we know that the president took this on square on the jaw from west virginia when he attacked the russia investigation. but we had the prime minister of russia saying via twitter the trump administration has shown its total weakness by handing over executive power to congress in the most humiliating way. the congress is equal to the president, according to the constitution and has powers that the president may not so he might not know that, but when it comes to the fears, if trump is somehow beholden to russia, right, if they don't do something to release information on him, does that debunk that theory, that the president is somehow beholden to them? >> well i think at the end of the day, you did see him sign on
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to the sanctions. he did put in caveats, but it is within congress's jurisdiction to have sanctions and it is within the president's power to have executive orders related to sanctions and that is how it works in the country and the fact they were completely bipartisan, complete overwhelming support in the house and senate, they are retaliation for what is consensus is russia meddling in our election and the u.s. is slow on punitive measures and that is the case now and also with the obama administration and you saw congress take a strong move against russia and one that was correct. >> tara mueller, thank you so much. >> and stick with us, in the next hour the trump economy, does the president deserve credit for what we're seeing from wall street? i no longer live with
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hi, everybody, i'm thomas roberts here at headquarters in new york. breaking news with the u.n. security council nell a rare dispy