certainly. i think it will be very challenging for the african-american community to get enthusiastic about something that isn't enthusiastic about them. so i think that it is incumbent upon the democratic party to put forth the candidate that speaks directly to the african-american community. >> i have to pass to it chris matthews. thank you for that conversation. our show is over. "hardball" starts now. >> maybe wasn't tough enough. let's play "hardball." good evening. forget fire and fury, president trump ratcheted up his tough talk on north korea today with a series of threats aimed at kim

jong-un and his regime in pyongyang. the president answer questions on a range of topics including the recent raid on paul manafort's house, mitch mcconnell, his relationship with jeff sessions, white house leaks, and a lot more than that. we'll get to all of it in this hour. this afternoon, president trump reacted to the threat from north korea his readying plans to launch test missiles, it says, directed at u.s. territory of guam. >> i read about where in guam by august 15th, let's see what he does with guam. he does something in guam, it will be an event the likes of which nobody has seen before, what will happen in north korea. >> when you say that, what do you mean? >> you'll see. and he'll see. he will see. it's not a dare. it is a statement. it has nothing to do with dare. that's a statement. he won't go around threatening guam and threatening the united

states and he is not going to threaten japan and he's not going to threaten south korea, no. that's not a dare, as you say. that is a statement of fact. >> and the president had a stark warning for north korea about nuclear weapons. >> i would like to denuke the world. i would like russia and the united states and china and pakistan and many other countries that have nuclear weapons, get rid of them. until they do, we'll be the most powerful nuclear nation oerth by far. and nobody, including north korea, will be threatening us with anything. >> earlier in the day, there were more warnings from the president and a refusal to back down from his controversial language the week, threatening north korea with fire and fury, like the world has never seen. here was the president this afternoon. >> frankly, the people that were

questioning that statement, was it too tough? maybe wasn't tough enough. they've been doing this to our country for a long time. years, bits time that somebody stuck up for the people of this country and the people of other countries. so if anything, maybe statement wasn't tough enough. and we're back by 100% by our military. >> [ inaudible ]. >> you will see. if north korea does anything in terms of thinking about attack of anybody that we love or we represent or our allies or us, they can be very, very nervous. i'll tell you why. is that they should be very nervous. things will happen to them like they never thought possible. noug better get their act together or they're going to be in trouble like few nations ever have been in trouble in this world. >> for more, peter baker, "washington post" columnist ruth

marcus, peter let me start with you. when the president made the fire and fury comment a few days ago, the word we were getting from the white house was it was his word, his own expression. but he was expressing something that a, a tone that they were ready for. that the folks in the administration were ready for. is that the same thing today? was the administration ready for him to come out and talk like this? or the president just decided, this is what i'm going to say. >> i think the staff knows what he thinks and knows he'll express it no matter what they think. that you had secretary tillerson trying to calm the waters yesterday. saying i think americans should sleep well at night. the president shuffled that off. he's saying, i'm very serious about this. i'm not backing down whatsoever.

the problem is nobody knows where the red line. here's the red line, whether north korea actually fires something at guam, whether they get further progress on their nuclear weapons. we don't know where the line is and the president doesn't want us to know. >> he makes these broad statements of mass destruction. he just says we'll see, they'll see. is there any sense what he's talking about with more precision than that? >> no. that's something that he doesn't want to have throughout in precision. he said in fact to the reporters at the golf club, i'm not going to discuss this. i don't talk about these things that detail. it is not his nature. to it is his nature to lay down threat. to beat his chest and say i'm tougher than you are. don't try to challenge me.

you don't want to see what's going to happen if i get in my face. it is very bellicose language. presidents typically offer firm resolve when it comes to places like north korea. they don't get off this wide world of wrestling like we have here. >> where do you think this is? you have north korea saying, okay, we'll start doing something with guam. you have the president responding like the today. this back and forth, does it lead to anything more than words? does it back down? >> uncertainty. imagine if you're japanese or south korean or somebody who lives in guam or the korean peninsula, china, with these very provocative rhetoric on both sides. i think the way the president is

conducting the foreign policy is very unhelpful. he is undermining his own team. the secretary of state that wants a diplomatic solution. the secretary of defense. the danger here is how will kim jong-un react? he's unpredictable. hopefully he's not irrational. he knows he would be wiped out by the united states. the danger is that it limits the options for a diplomatic solution. it limits the options for letting these sanctions work. it limits the option for us continuing military exercises. what if there's a miscalculation, an american airplane, air flight being neutered or a fishing vote being

shot by south korea. those things cause the real consternation, potential for real conflict. >> let me dig a little deeper on something you said. this is question i think that is sort of in the air here. every president has to deal with. your assessment. maybe you can dig a little deeper but your assessment when you stay question is, are they rational? meaning, if they launch any actual military strike military action, they face the the prospect of the total destruction of their jeel. the political order of their country would. that deter them? what is your read on them? >> my read speak what jong jon wants more than anything is to stay in power. secondly, he wants to develop his nuclear weapons, as his maximum negotiating card. now that it is kind of certain that he can reach the united states with missiles, maybe this is a time that he's going to negotiate. he released the canadian

prisoner, detainee yesterday. so there may be a plan that he has. the we don't know because nobody talks to him. the chinese don't talk to him. he talks to dennis rodman and that's it. so we don't have an ability to gauge what he wants to do. what is his end game? but i think this level of he rhetoric, the north koreans, i've dealt with they will for years. they don't operate like we do. they take personal slight very seriously. i worry that he'll react precipitously and respond to the president in some way. that won't be good for our troops, 25 million south koreansley koreans live in seoul that are vulnerable to a missile attack, our allies. if you're living in the korean peninsula and you're hearing these two leaders go at each other, you're starting to duck

for cover. >> president trump snook jabs at his predecessors today. >> i will always consider negotiations but they've been negotiating for 25 years. look at clinton. he folded on the negotiations. he was sgaek ineffective. look at what happened with bush, look what happened with obama. obama, he didn't even want to talk. but i talk. it is about time. somebody has to do it. >> and ruth, thinking about what ambassador richardson was saying about how the north koreans may be potentially respond to verbal aggression from an adversary, you look at donald trump. you look at his style. we are seeing in some ways, it isn't surprising that donald trump is talking about north korea. the question wif trump, is it in his name at all? in his capacity at all to back down from this kind of rhetoric?

he seems to be in this tit for tat with north korea. is there any reason to think he will let this in this any way? >> well, let me say this. if secretary richardson is nervous, then i'm nervous and i think we should all be nervous. and yes, this may be the way donald trump talks. it's one thing to talk that way with senator blumenthal. with you it's another with the north korean leader. >> i'm trying to imagine what is more bellicose than fire and fury. hard to see. but we really need to, in fact, my point in the column right up now at the "washington post," on the website, that general kelly

needs to get this you understand control. if the president is a hard president to manage, but there has to be a red line in terms of, he can't just go off script and start issuing these kinds of threats without the consequences and the language being much more carefully thought through than this one seems to have been. >> we've got donald trump, obviously, the face of the administration, the voice of the administration. you've got other players here with some serious credentials. ruth just mentioned john kelly. you have mattis, tillerson. what else is there, is there anything else behind the scenes with the other key players in this administration? the other people with important titles in this administration. are they doing things behind the scenes that might be altering the tone behind the scenes? >> well, look. you have a good cop bad cop situation. i don't know if it is intended. it seems to me to be more of an after the fact. it is pretty incendiary and can

it leaves others to try to calm things down and talk to them and stay this is where we're at. it will be okay. you see real divisions within this administration. look what happened with sebastian gorka. he tells bbc radio that we shouldn't be listening to secretary tillerson when it comes the military matters. he is just a secretary of state and doesn't have anything to do with that. wait a second, he is fourth in line to the presidency. he carries a big stick. and he says, well, i was only criticizing the fake news media. this is a real division within this administration. they haven't settled and they're waiting for the president to give them direction. >> and let me ask but that clip. the president goes after his predecessors by name saying we've had a couple decades to deal with this and it hasn't been done. let me ask you, if there is a consensus here in the foreign

policy national security community that donald trump is taking a very he risky approach to this, are there lessons from the approach this country has been taking throughents in term their needs to be almost a third way that emerges? >> well, look, past presidents, bush, clinton, obama, they all tried to negotiate with north korea. clinton, an agreement in the 1990s. the agreed framework. north korea didn't build nuclear womens for nine years. it was success. but they did violate it, the north koreans. bush tried to negotiate. obama tried to negotiate. it didn't work because of kim jong-un. that doesn't mean efforts weren't tried by our best military people. obama had the cyber war that tried to degrade the facilities of the north koreans, the nuclear facilities with some success. the president's policy, his problem is, there are too many

messengers. i agree ruth, general kelly, this is his first big test. he has to tell the president, you can't conduct foreign policy with verbal ranting sand tweeting. this is national security. this is lives of human beings. this it's the national security protection of our allies, of our states, of guam, of alaska, cities in the united states. this is serious business. the president shouldn't have had he this. he should act like a president. >> thank you all of you for joining us. and coming up on what has back very busy news day, the latest on the russia investigation. president trump comments for the first time on the raid of paul manafort's house and whether or not he plans on firing special counsel robert mueller. plus the republican civil war heating up as the president

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president trump weighed in on the fact the fbi raided paul manafort's house. trump called it tough stuff and said it sent a strong signal. >> was it appropriate for the fbi to raid the home of paul manafort pre dawn? >> i thought it was a very, very strong signal or whatever. i know mr. manafort, i haven't spoken to him in a long time but i know him. we was the campaign for a very short period of time. a relatively short period of time. they do that very seldom so i

was surprised to see it. i was very, very surprised. >> have you spoken to the fbi director about it? >> no, i have not. but to do that early in the morning, whether or not it was appropriate, you would have to ask them. i've always found paul manafort to be a very decent man and he is like a lot of other people, he probably makes consultant fees from all over the place. who knows? i don't know. i thought that was a very, pretty tough stuff. to wake him up, perhaps his family was there. i think that's pretty tough stuff. >> now these comments come as manafort's spokesman comes as he is retaining a different law firm to represent him in question, the investigation. the president said today that he has no plans to try to dismiss special counsel robert mueller, despite saying last month that any investigation into his finances would cross a red line. >> mr. president, have you thought about or considered leading the dismissal of the special counsel? is there anything robert mueller

would do that could send you in that direction? >> i haven't given it a lot of thought. you people say i'm going to dismiss him. i want him to get on with the task but i also want the senate and the house the come up with their mindingsful floss collusion. i won because i suppose i was a. better candidate than her. i went to wisconsin, michigan, i won pennsylvania, i fought a smart battle. i didn't win because have russia. >> and i'm joined now by the bureau chief for the "washington post" and the political analyst. covering the president in bridgewater, new jersey. and a former criminal prosecutor and current criminal defense attorney. thank you both for joining us. it was your voice we were hearing for a lot of the time there, asking those questions of the president today. a basic question, we had the news yesterday. you helped break story about the raid on manafort's house.

you asked the president about it. are you surprised he was willing to address it? >> no, i assumed he would want to address it and i assume that the way that raid went down would have bothered him, as indeed it seemed to. he said as you just played, that he was surprised by how tough it was. and defend paul manafort. called him a good man. and the two of them were very close at the time of campaign when manafort it was campaign chairman and the most important adviser to the president, as he locked up the nomination. >> what were we seeing? was that the president trying to send a message to paul manafort? was that the president trying to sends a message to bob mueller? what do you think he was trying to do? >> i think he was just answering the question. i think he's trying to put out some support for paul manafort. he hasn't talked with paul manafort in quite some time. the one thing he didn't do, he didn't openly criticize the

filibuster for conducting the raid or attorney general jeff sessions, for that matter, for the way this went down. he said it was tough and surprising but he stopped short of saying it was inappropriate. >> and in terms of that raid again, we learned about it yesterday. the president saying, hey, of this some tough stuff here. from the standpoint of a prosecutor, like bob mueller, was he trying on deliver a message snow the trump himself, the way he carried that out? >> absolutely. what he is trying to do is say, if you don't turn over documents that i ask for voluntarily, i will go into your house in the middle of the night or early morning and i will get it myself. because they know what they are looking for. he has the greatest team of experts in particular areas of the law and if you don't turn over a document, we're going to go get it. so yeah, a big message. >> despite the recent escalation in the ongoing russia probe, the president says they're investigating something didn't happen.

>> they're investigating something that never happened. there was no collusion between us and russia. in fact, the opposite. russia spent a lot of money on fighting me. russia spent a lot of money on that false report. and that was russian money. and i think it was democrat money too. you can say that was collusion. when you get down to it, why isn't the fbi looking at the dnc server? you have a server that they refused, the democrats refused to give to the fbi. i don't know how the fbi can investigate something if the dnc, the democrats refuse to give the server. so we have an investigation of something never took place. >> that's a line we've been hearing donald trump say for a long time. that's his stock answer here. but it does raise the issue. this investigation is playing out right now and it will take time and there will be surprises like we got with manafort. donald trump from a legal

standpoint, what's the best advice to him? is he supposed to say nothing? >> i think he's doing great. he is distancing himself. he is saying poor paul manafort, tough stuff. the raid. he is not criticizing the fbi because he's not part of investigation. that's the message he's sending. as a defense strategy, it is very smart to distance himself and say, oh, i barely know the guy. paul manafort went from campaign convention manager to campaign manager to campaign chairman in two months. the guy was his right hand man. >> phillip, elaborate on that if you will. the quote we just played from the president, he was there a very short time and officially holding that title for a very short time. but flesh this out a little bit. the role of paul manafort in donald trump's presidency. >> he makes it sound like he's a guy who walked in off the street for a couple days at trump tower. that's not true.

he came in during the primary when's trump was facing a threat for convention zpelgs needed to lock up the party and it was manafort who took control of the nomination, helped secure it for the president. he oversaw the entire republican convention and developed a strategy for how he could take on hillary clinton. wasn't until the fall that a new regime came. in kellyanne conway, steve bannon, they brought it home. they brought him the victory but bannon was very intimately involved in the campaign during that transition. >> and on this issue here of mueller, the special prosecutor and whether trump would try to fire him. did it sound like a different tone today relative to what we heard before. do you read anything into it? >> i think he's saying what he has to say. he cannot set up any statements that could be used against him later, that he is now intending to fire the special prosecutor,

counsel mueller. he can change his mind and there's still that opportunity. and let me be clear. there is a way he can do. this he could argue that if the special counsel regulations enter gear his powers to remove people from the executive branch, there is this little tiny way he could argue that he has the power to remove mueller. i don't think it will happen. and i think he's being smart. >> at least in terms of public tone. and of course we've seen changes before on multiple fronts. thank you both for joining us flts up next, president trump ratchets up his attacks on senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. this time even seeming to threaten mcconnell's job. this is "hardball" where the action is. ♪ ♪

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welcome back to ball bauflt president trump ratcheted up his threats against majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> [ inaudible ]. >> well, i'll tell you what. if he doesn't get repeal and replace done ferks doesn't get taxes done, meaning cuts and reform ferks doesn't get a very easy one for infrastructure, if he doesn't get that done, unask me that question. >> and later he went even

further. >> i'm very disappointed in mitch. if he gets these bills passed, i'll be very happy with him and i'll be the first to admit it. honestly, repeal and replace of obamacare should have taken place and it should have been on my desk virtually the first week, the first day that i was there. i've been hearing about it for seven years. >> the latest round of attacks come after he said he had excessive expectations about how quickly things can get done in congress. i'll joined by michael steele and cornell, both msnbc analysts. michael steele, i'll start with you. it is so interesting to watch this back and forth with mcconnell. it feels like two things happening at the same time. one is that donald trump is making it that much harder to get anything done in congress. to rack up any achievements. but at the same time, it seems the reason he's doing it is this is reinforcing the image that

got him to the presidency in the first place. he's a party crasher. he is the guy the republican leaders are scared of. >> let's start with the last point, this is how he worked his magic and wooed the base who was frustrated with that very same establishment represented by mcconnell and boehner and so many others at the time. that they wanted the fire brand, the nuclear option and that was donald trump. now as president, what the president has to recognize is you cannot necessarily bite the hand that you will need to feed you. mitch mcconnell, despite what you may think about him, has the ultimate control. he can pass your legislation, he can put it in the desk, he can sit on it. he can stop it all together. he can frustrate your purposes. this is why the gop need to get on the same page about the agenda. health care is double.

move. on mcconnell is not going to want to revisit this. the house doesn't even want to revisit at this point. you have low hanging fruit on the economic side with tax reform and infrastructure reform. that's the sweet spot where the president should be making bread as opposed to breaking bread. >> it looks like he's trying to pass, he is clearly trying to pass off this health care failure, the failure of republicans to get something through and passed into law on, to mcconnell and republican leaders. hey, base, continuing party promised you this for seven years, i promised you this in the campaign. these are the guys to blame. they don't have their act together. they don't have the ceo swagger. can he do that? >> this is actually quint essential trump. this isn't about, this is about, look, the white house is in complete chaos.

they've accomplished almost nothing from the white house besides scaring a lot of americans and most of our allies. and so he is setting up mitch mcconnell to be the boogie man. it is bait and switch. don't look at my white house in complete chaos. don't look at what we've been able to accomplish, nothing, i can switch the blame and make it all about mitch mcconnell. from a legislative standpoint, it is tough. but i don't think this is about moving legislation. i think this is about donald trump protecting his brand and saying, i'll not the bad guy. mitch mcconnell is a bad guy. what you saw him do in the press conference, he threw every one under the bus. he threw bush under the bus. obama under the bus, he threw president clinton under the bus. this is what he does. he bait-and-switches. >> it is bigger than the senate,

the congress, the republican party. this is trump brand. it is the i am the in control ceo corporate leader. i snap my finger, things happen. anahe i'm in control of everything. to perpetuate that image, if anything goes wrong, he who is the blame somebody, talk about how incompetent somebody is and it ends up like cornell said, he is blaming everybody else. >> the reality for the president, which is a hard one for him to swallow or settle with, this is not his world. this is not how this plays out. you don't have 540 members of congress who are toward snap your fingers and they're at your beck and call. you don't even have people within your own administration who are prepared to do that. witness the leaks, the counter menning to what the president tweets out or the president says. so this has been a very rough adjustment for donald trump in terms of coming from a world where he was, as you know, the

ceo, the guy who would say, this is with a i want done and everyone around him would go out and make it happen. there was no board of directors to check him. there was no, there were no shareholders to check him. it is just him. this is a different play ground now and the reality is, if it want infrastructure, if you want tax reform, even if you want health care, you're going to have to work to get it. that's something this president, at least the white house, doesn't seem prepared to do. they sat on their behinds while this was in the house and senate, particularly the senate, and did not go out and fight for it. did not make the case that the president is making right now. she would mcconnell sees this, he yawns. when you get serious, call me. >> i think that's such an important point. getting involved in the legislative process as any president we've seen in the past would have done. it seems the me trump is scared

of. . he is scared that doing that would make him look like the system he ran against. it would make him look like another one of the republican that's he railed against. the image is one thing. it doesn't let you get anything done. >> you also have to know the issues. we haven't seen him know the details of health care policy. here's the problem for republicans, better or worse, they're tied to that brand better or worse, the democrats with tied. when you look at the q poll the republican party favorability at 22, which is a new low, this becomes problematic. that means even the base of the republican party are not favorable to the republicans. when donald trump goes out and attacks house and senate republicans, it puts a damper. i don't think the democrats have to do a lot to make the a good

mid-term for them but donald trump is certainly helping democrats when he goes out and attacks republicans and further drives down enthusiasm among base republicans. >> i wonder sometimes if what donald trump is doing may help him in 2020 but at his own party's expense in 2018. we have to leave it there. we're hard up against a break here bust thank you both for being with us. up next is trump fixated on president obama? it appears we have a lot more evidence of that today. it's time to rethink what's possible. rethink the experience. rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief uses unique mistpro technology and helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. rethink your allergy relief. flonase sensimist.

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look what happened with obama. obama, he didn't even want to talk about it. but i talk. bits time. somebody has to do it. >> that was president obama criticizing his predecessor,

former president barack obama for failing to deal with north korea and trump took another. >> i would like to denuke the world. i know president obama said -- nuclear is our greatest threat worldwide. >> let's bring in the roundtable. continually bringing up his predecessor, barack obama. look, there is an art to this in the past with presidents. there's implied criticism of the predecessor. with trump, it has been blunt, naming barack obama, sometimes naming other presidents and it has been nonstop since he came to office. >> he is completely obsessed with barack obama. did you read the article? there were six european officials who said when they

talked to president trump about foreign policy, all he says is what did obama do? and then he wants to do the opposite. of course his obsession with repeal and replace obamacare, it seems like to the exclusion of what is good for the country, he only wants to undo everything obama did. >> is this getting him anything? is this something that he is offering up red meat to his base? he did he achieve anything by doing this? >> i think, you have to realize he comes from a world of wrestling. and you stage manage these contests. it is very angry in a theatrical way and he has brought in a lot of the sblims of. . he is setting up something to line up against and going back to it over and over again. the key point is this observation came out from foreign diplomats, european diplomats. essentially, foreign diplomats across the world are trying to

find any framework they can put him into. it is not the traditional one. >> that's an interesting one. it does feel like in some ways, donald trump is trying to re-create the atmosphere of the 2016 campaign. the carings he would rail against, thinking, if he can keep going with that, i can benefit from that die animal tick same way. >> and you're at 38% approval rating or wherever you are, you need enemies, you need people to attack. i like the wrestling reference. he does create these evil characters. i think where president obama is concerned, there is an obsession. it goes back to the birther movement, questioning obama's citizenship. i think it goes back to the dinner where obama joked about him. humiliated him. i don't think he ever forgot about that. it is very personal. i don't know it is all politics. i think he has personal psychological -- >> i've heard the theory, that's

why donald trump randal for president. he was so humiliated. what about those weeks after the election when he was saying good things about obama. donald trump is not the guy who goes through ceremony, i'm supposed to say this, i'll say this. whatever you think of him, he had to be feeling good about him to say that. >> i think at the bottom president trump wants to be loved by everyone and he doesn't like to be criticized. i think he felt loved by obama so he said nice things about him. later, as soon as former president obama criticized him, he went right back to that attack. he cannot stand any kind of criticism. certainly he can't stand being laughed at. >> and it feels like a lot of the reporting with anonymous sources, he is pitting that in his mind on the obama administration of saying, i think he might be responding to that every time in the payments. president trump says he is, quote, honored by the leaks coming from people who are fighting for his love.

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i was sitting with someone who is very senior. and he said there is no way to take it out without a blood bath. and that is chilling. >> and how much is the language that mattis is using there is similar to the response his boss is using. >> i think trump is creating a toxic political environment. coming out, doubling down on it. what i meant to say was harsher than that. i think someone needs to take if in a different direction. it's getting scary. >> also today, donald trump talked about a lot today, there was also this about leaks. >> you have the leaks where people want to love me and they're all fighting for love. those are not very important,

but certainly we don't like them. those are little inner white house leaks. i'm somewhat honored by them. >> let's translate what we're hearing there. the link between the leaks, and the palace intrigue stories -- >> this goes back to my earlier point about the desire of donald trump to be loved and he is taking these leaks. i'm the recipient of some of these internal links when it is staffers fighting over each other, and they're not leaking to show they're love for drup donald trump. a lot of times their criticizing him very harshly. they're not fighting for his love, they're fighting for his power. >> and they think the way to do that is through the press ultimately. >> they're going to go publicly

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the hardball round table, tell me something i don't know. >> you can rent trump's childhood home in queens for $725 a night. 20 bedrooms and has a giant c d cardboard of trump in the living room. >> silicon valley workers have fallen by 40% since the start of the year. if you like trump, you think it is very good, but it is unknown how it will affect us. >> weird things happen in the wields. there is not a lot of confidence that they can figure it out. the government might shut down the debt limit, it might turn into a crisis and the market

might sell off. >> i thought to myself that is about time for a good debt ceiling crisis. that is "hardball" for now. all in with chris hays starts right now. >> tonight on "all in." >> i thought it was a very, very strong signal, or whatever. >> the president meets the press responding to the manafort raid. to wake him up, perhaps his family was there, that is pretty tough stuff. >> addressing the russian president. >> i want to thank him because we're trying to cut down on payroll. >> i'm very disappointed in mitch, touting his nuclear build up. >> i want this, our nuclear arsenal to be the biggest and finest in the world while calling for