possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. on many sides. it has been going on for a long time in our country. not donald trump, not barack obama. this has been going on for a long, long time. it has no place in america, what is vital now is a swift restoration of law and order and the protection of innocent lives. good evening. i'm joy reid live from washington, d.c. with a special report on the events today in charlottesville, virginia. where a white nationalist rally

erupted in violence late this morning. white nationalists groups attending a scheduled unite the right rally to protest the removal of a confederate statue clashes with counter-protesters including clergy and ant fascist groups and members of the black lives matter movement. the rally ended before it began when the governor and officials declared a state of emergency. before 11:00 a.m. but clashes continued into the early afternoon. the most serious violence happened when a driver plowed a car into a crowd of peacefully marching counter-protesters. killing one person and injuring 19 others. several witnesses say they believe it was intentional. police have arrested one person in connection with the crash. it is being investigated as a criminal homicide. police say in addition to the crash, another 15 people were injured at today's protests. let's go right to nbc news

correspondent mia rodriguez who has been in the crowd in charlottesville all day. mia, give us an update on where we stand now, clueing on those injured. >> reporter: well, for right now, we know that 35 people were injured total. we have three deaths here. of course you mentioned the one woman who was runned down during that incident where the car plowed into the crowd and then we have those two virginia state police officers who died when the helicopter crashed about 7 miles southwest of here near a golf course. now behind me, we still have the investigation going on. keep in mind, it is hours since this scene began unfolding here. we have had forensics out here, police have been combing through several vehicles that were also involved in all of this that were swiped and hit during this incident. we know for a fact that a lot of people were taken to the hospital. i, for one, saw at least a half dozen people loaded on to stretchers, put into ambulances and you had paramedics on the sidewalk right here working on

people when we first came upon the scene. i can tell you that this is a city that has been in a state of tension for weeks. this all started back on july 8th when there was a kkk march here near the robert e. lee statue near the park and the city was looking to remove the statue from the park. fast forward a couple of weeks and we come to this point on friday, law enforcement learned lessons from the july 8th rally where you did see counter-protesters and some of the people attending the rally kind of getting into it. they said they learned some lessons from that, they were going to apply them here today, but of course, it is hard to have foreseen everything that we have seen unfold today. from the clashes that started this morning, to the ins didn't that happened here with the car, to the crash involving the virginia state police. joy. >> and mia, you are saying that the police said they learned lessons from that july march but what we saw when we spoke with you and we saw you out there on

the streets and dealing with what we're seeing right now which were physical confrontations between the white nationalist marchers and counter-protesters was a light police presence. there didn't seem to be a lot of police on the street. there didn't seem to be a show of force the way we've seen in other incidents whether in ferguson or baltimore. have the police officials explained why the presence seemed to be so light and so restrained. >> reporter: well, in fact, when they had the news conference just a short time ago, a lot of reporters were asking whethers whether they felt there was any mistakes made here and how this was handled. when the rally was initially supposed to start, virginia state police were there and they did not get involved immediately when the confrontation started between the protesters and the counter-protesters. they sort of held back. when things really began to escalate, at that point they did step in, they did clear the park. they did clear the area. which is how everybody sort of went their separate ways.

and the counter-protesters ended up over here in it area. we're actually one block off from a pedestrian mall. there is a lot of shops here and restaurants, cafes and people were here in this area. it was quite packed. now when that incident happened as of car plowed into the crowd, there was quite a force seen here. there were all sorts of first responders, police, everyone descended on the area. number one, to treat those people injured and number two, to sort of clear out of the area and begin the investigation which is really just in the initial stages at this point. >> nbc mia rodriguez, correspondent out there. stay safe. thank you very much. we appreciate the information you've been able to bring us today. thank you. now there was another notable piece of donald trump's statement this afternoon, let's listen to that. >> above all else, we must remember this truth. no matter our color, creed, religion, or police ctical parte

are all americans first. we love our country, we love our god, we love our flag, we're proud of our country. we're proud of who we are. so we want to get the situation straightened out in charlottesville and we want to study it. >> joining me now to unpack that is democratic congressional candidate roger dean hoff steader. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you very much. i want to take people back to when a lot of us first heard about this event and myself, i heard about it last night. when reverend dr. william barber gave me a call to say there is something happening in charlottesville in side of a church where counter-protesters

had gathered to prepare to confront the white nationalist marchers today, could you take us inside of the church. i understand you were there. tell us how this unfolded last night. >> reporter: yes, ma'am. we were at the st. paul memorial church last night. just joining together as a community. the local leaders were there and many different pastors from different churches here in charlottesville. there was an uplifting and inclusive message about how to counter the protests and talking about the inclusive nature of america and i left that meeting and i was so uplifted by the experience and the folks in there and unfortunately, just 100 yards from where that was, we had some white supremacists gathering. but the purpose of that event was really just to make sure that people in the community were warned to take -- tackle the assignment today which is to try to be positive and inclusive in what is otherwise a terrible day here in charlottesville. >> and just for our viewers who may not be aware of it and not paying attention to it.

this is the scene last night that unfolded as mr. hoffstetler was saying a hundred yards from the church. a group of hundreds as it was described to me last night by a pastor who was also inside of that church, of marchers, white supremacist marchers who marched and converged on this park where the report e lee statue is located with torched chanting slogans. and if we could have some of the slogans. and cut seven for my producers so you could get a sense of what you could hear from inside of the church. let's listen to them chanting. this is the protesters last night. we may not have that yet. so let me just ask you, then, sir. when you were inside of that church and you could hear these protests and understood there were people with torches outside, what was your reaction? were people inside of the church afraid? >> yes, it was quite an in tim dating experience to be honest with you. they are just folks across the way there that really chanting the opposite of what was coming

from inside of the church. we have -- i left before the order was given to stay in the church. but at one point there was concern for folks' safety in the church. and there was a community event to bring positivity to what was happening and there was no way to know the folks might be across the street so it was very disoccurring. >> and i will tell the viewers, we don't have the piece of video, but they planting blood and soil. >> that is right. >> and are you aware of what that means? >> i wasn't at the time. but apparently it is something to do with nazi germany and that something like that would occur just in earshot of the church where people are gathering together in and across races and across faiths, it is just very disturbing that something like that could happen in america, joy, and we have to stand up and speak out against this hatred and bigotry that is happening right now. >> and we there for the march today that turned violent. do you feel that the president's statement in which he talked

about everyone coming together, do you feel that was sufficient, sir. >> i think it it is -- it is a accept in the right direction. i was disappointed it wasn't more forth right but there is only one side in america and the side is we're against bigotry and hatred, and every leader from the lowest level to the highest office in the land need to speak up aggressively against the hatred in our country. it is not something we will stand for and something we have to be aggressive against. >> roger dean hoffstetler, a candidate for congress. i appreciate you taking some time for us today. >> thank you. >> sorry for the problem with the mic. >> it was just fine and you were loud and clear. >> thank you. and now let me bring in lieutenant general russell honeri and best known for his work as the commander of the joint task force for the hurricane katrina catastrophe. general, thank you for being here. i want to talk about the response on the ground, what we saw taking place today in

charlottesville where it looked like chaos from where we were standing. do you feel that police officials in charlottesville, virginia, had an adequate response to what you saw today? >> initially, it looked good. the police were well -- had the right uniform on, there seemed to be playing an observer role. but when the demonstrators showed up with helmets, sticks, bats, rifles, this is not a civil disobedience march against a policy or a rule at a local or federal law that people are disagreeing with. we have a conflict here between the first amendment and the second amendment. the fear that these people showing up with helmets an guns and sticks with the intent of doing what? followed by a terrorist type attack using a car. >> if it is directly related to

them, and the investigation is yet to come, but this idea of white nationalism being used on the street in points of conversation and now acting with armed inside of the united states is way beyond what our police have been trained for and cities like charlottesville would have to create ordinance, you cannot peach with weapons an guns -- march with weapons and agains and stakes that could hurt people. >> and virginia is an open carry state. it is a state that is known to be quite -- one of the easier states in which to acquire a firearm. we did see people with long guns that you could see them visibly as you are watching this unfold on tv. how could a local police force stop people from carrying guns to this kind of rally, given that it is an open carry state? >> look u. can't go to a football game with a gun. we've figured out how to two it in the s.e.c. we have to figure out how to do

in our cities so people could exercise their first amendment right to be able to assemble and disagree with policies or grievances. this is not the way of king and gandhi. the two people who showed us the way of how to use civil disobedience and assemble to change a law or a rule. this is hatred. by hate groups that have to be called out, the governor couldn't give a better speech. the mayor couldn't give a better speech. now all of virginia, all of america must denounce these two groups as hate groups and they are not welcome. we've got to make it very uncomfortable for them to operate, arm and with aggression inside of our cities in assembly. this must stop. we need even federal law, the attorney general needs to look at this and was in a hate crime. and all that is yet to come. but this hatred openly demonstrated in america, i didn't serve 37 years in the army to come here and see this in america. i faced 30,000 dome on

straighters in -- demonstrators in south korea and they did not have a gun. they pushed and shoved but there was no violence of the magnitude i saw in the most democratic nation in the world. we have people abusing the first and second amendment right of this nation and our police are going to have to figure out how we're going to stop cars coming into areas just like they've done in paris and london, where we have open assembly. >> and do you think that the president sent a strong enough message that you are saying that the governor sent the right message and set the right tone. but by saying violence on all sides, do you think that that was a strong enough message from donald trump? >> as a person who grew up in the south, i will not be satisfied until our president of the united states, that we -- that we elected through our democracy and say i denounce white nationalism, and i denounce the kkk and we cannot

allow them to oppose citizens and the values. i think the president needs to say that statement. >> lieutenant jenlt general, you could not be more clear, sir. thank you very much. appreciate your time. thank you. and coming up, members of clergy stood up to white supremacists today. that is next. rethink the experience. rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief uses unique mistpro technology and helps block 6 key inflammatory substances with a gentle mist. most allergy pills only block one. and 6 is greater than one. rethink your allergy relief. flonase sensimist. ♪

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♪ >> while white nationalist protesters engaged in violent with counter-protester, there was one group that stared down our militia to drown out the message of pearce, the local clergy. and joining me dr. william barber, president of repairs of the breach and bishop barber, thank you so much and i want to let people know it was because of you that i found out this was happening last night. i heard from you as i was coming off the air and the story that you told me was pretty alarming, the idea that there were people marching toward a church with torches and before -- before i ask you a question about it, we now do have that piece of video so that people could get a sense of what the people inside of the church were hearing. here are the protesters from friday night. [ chanting ] ♪ blood and soil

blood and soil [ chanting ] >> the hearing of course is a chant of blood and soil which was the slogan of the agricultural department of nazi germany of the government of hitlerme hitlerme hitler, as may -- a man doing civil rights work all of your life, when did you think when you heard that being chanted on the streets of an american city. >> when i heard it from my dear sister, one of the organizers there, it was quite troubling but as we continue to sew this kite of hateful rhetoric and you move people to this place, my condolences to the person who died today and those who are hurt. but it says something that this was a strategy, an alt right strategy. and it is not just hate. this was spg planned, and when you look at the people involved, richard spencer, matt kimba and david duke and how they are using this moment in history to

spur white nationalism, it should be deeply concerning to all of us. but joy, i heard the president today. and the president cannot condemn the actions, which everybody condemns and not own his own responsibility for this kind of vitriol from his lies about birtherism, his lies about voter suppression targeted toward the minority community, his placement of bannon, a white nationalist and alt right person in the white house. his reluctance to disavow white nationalist and his attack on latinos an the lgbt community and those who have allowed him to do this without sufficient critique have emboldened the tudes of white nationalists so you sew to the wind and you reap this whirlwind which is so tragic and so terrible. >> and when you heard the president say violence on all sides, we do what you call a moral moment where you come on and we talk about issues of

morality which are not left and right. they are wrong and right. how do you place that on the spectrum of having a moral response to what we've seen in charlottesville? >> well, first of all, as i said, the power of life and death is in the tongue and the president has to own his own tongue that has helped to spur these terrible atrocities. but it is not about on both sides. there is nonviolent protests and then there is violence. this wasn't about free speech. this is a strategy and this is hate and people with guns, as the general just said, the nonviolent protesters of the 60s were called violent. but when people beat them, they were called the ones that created the violence. that is not the case. the violence and the ugliness has been created by the persons carrying guns and i would go further to say, joy, this has a history, in 1915 road row wilson killed the civil rights leader out of his office and the birth of a nation in the white house

and the anti-discrimination of the federal government and for the next five years, more black people were beaten and killed than ever before. 196263, george wallace listed all of the vit reol in his inauguration and he loosened something by the end of the year, four girls in a birmingham church are dead and by the end of 1964 others are dead. we make a mistake if we just call the actions today hate and not look at the policies and the positions rooted in the life lives that stoke and fuel this hate and the president cannot cop out and saying there is hate on both sides. >> and i want to -- -- >> you can't do that. >> and you mentioned tracy blackman, an organizer in ferguson so she has been through this rodeo before. i want to play you a moment on earlier today on my morning show when she was trying to talk to us and this is just a demonstration of the violence that was perpetrated not just in

the presence of members of clergy, but there was a lot of fear placed into the hearts of clergy. let's play a moment. >> as we were closing -- >> i've got to go. >> go, go, i'm sorry, i'm sorry. there is gunfire and they are pushing me out. they are pushing me out. they are pushing me out. the security is pushing me out. security has got me. i'm sorry. excuse me. >> reverend barber what was happening is there were attacked perpetrated against members of clergy and there were people with -- people with brass knuckles app ba knuckles and bats attacks pastors. what do you -- >> voices of love, voices of -- she called me about that. i was invited to be there but couldn't because i was in mississippi doing another conference. i talked to her right after that

as they walked her to an alley in a space spot. and to talk about this kind of violence and hatred and then i thought about how, guess what, di -- dylann roof and positions an that what is moved him to do at mother emanual and we can't let people off the hook, politicians who have been supported and allowed this kind of thing. and lastly, that violence is terrible but i also want to say a message to my brothers and sisters in white america. this is not white america, this is an extremist group and secondly these people don't care about white america. they don't support living wages for the poor and the working poor. they don't support health care for the poor and the working poor. in many times they support the policy and the position that would take those thing away from the working poor, which is way, joy, to counter act, we must have a nonviolent moral movement

of all people that unpacked systemic racism that challenge those who frame it through the lens of a white nationalism and pits people against one another. and we who ought to be allies are going to have to come together so to never again hear a back -- or someone else say that. we have to come together and stand against this and call it what it is and our president and those around him who have endorsed and allowed him to speak in such a way that has fueled this hate must repent. repent. and they have to challenge this and otherwise they are burdened with the ugliness and whatever else happens because of it. >> reverend dr. william barber. thank you very much. we appreciate your time this evening. >> thank you so much. and we pray for all of those there. >> absolutely. indeed we do. and up next, is the trump

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charlottesville fell short of a full-throated condemnation of the white nationalist demonstrators who precipitated the chaos in the city. when pressed to clarify his words, the white house doubled down on his many sides take. tele hallie jackson, the president was hatred bigotry and violence from all sources and all sides. there was violence between protesters and counter-protests today, unquote. that comes as trump's response to last week's mosque bombing in minnesota remained a deafening silence. following a campaign that energize and emboldened the trump fans on the so-called alt right and when ch the ideology is representing at highest levels of governor by some of the closest advisers in side of the white house and from what just a year ago was considered the right wing fringe and

joining me now, white paper. darrell lamont, and latisha brooks, and joining me by phone is director rob reiner. before i jump into the panel. there has been responsed. paul ryan said the views are repugnant and it only served to unite americas against this kind of bigotry and the chairman of the gop said the hate and bigotry is dangerous and melanie trump said no good comes from violence and a hashtag charlottesville and the governor of virginia called the act over the past 24 hours sevening it was unacceptable and this is not a right to violence. and marco rubio, very important

for potus to describe events in charlottesville for what they are. and hillary clinton, one of the tweeted, my hearts are with everyone made to feel unsafe in their own country. >> and there is only one side and charlottesville and reverend jesse jackson sent a statement to the show which read president donald trump offered the citizens of guam in the face of provocation safety and he should do the same here. and what do you make of the president's response versus the ones i just read. >> well, unfortunately, this man has been stoking racism for many, many years. i mean, he did it with birtherism, that brought him to prominence. and he dragged along with him all of these white supremacists

neo-nazi racist anti-semitic groups and the fact of the matter is there is only one side, as vice president biden pointed out. there is anti-semitism and there is racism. and that is pure and simple. and i want to know where is jared kushner on this. the guy -- he called mhimself a orthodox jew and you have people rioting in the police. my wife's mother was in auschwitz, in the concentration camp and if she were alive today she would have been mortified by what we're seeing and as i hate to quote this guy, but as anthony scar a muc-- scaramucci said the fish stinks from the head and the head is donald trump and until he steps up and speaks out and calls this what it is, it is racism, it is anti-semitism, pure and simple and he condemns it in no uncertain terms he is condoning

and that is what he's been doing. he's giving that dog whistle for years and he continues to do it and if he continues to have steve bannon an steve miller and s sebastian gorka and running the justice department, he will continue to do this. so it is disgraceful that our president is still trafficking in these horrible, horrible racist ideas. >> and richard painter, you worked in the bush administration. can you imagine someone like sebastian gorka who is linked to the rend, cl which is a nazi organization or even steve bannon who right breitbart when it claimed to be declared the home for the alt right which is the dressed up name for white nationalism being in any other republican administration. you've been saying that people should be rooted out. >> well, i don't know how sebastian gorka got into the country with his affiliation,

his -- with she's hungarian ultra nationalist pronazi groups. but putting that aside, what this is all about is not just the national socialists or the klu klux klan, there is a movement called the alt right and the alt right is a terrorist movement and that is what we have seen, deaths today in ch t chalt -- in charlottesville because of this. and breitbart news and the trump administration needs to remove from the federal government anyone who has had any association with the so-called alt right movement which once again is a terrorist movement. people are dying because of it. it is a threat to our national security. and these people need to be out of our government. and i don't care what the president said any more. i don't care what he condemns, he needs to fire these people or we'll have to remove him from office.

there is no two ways about this and i'm a republican and we'll not allow this in our party. >> and i want to clarify for people, if there is a distinction between the alt right and what we know as the far right, the white nationalist right, the daily stormer came out and said that donald trump refused to condemn them outright and so they thought, great, bully for us. they took him middling statement as support and then i want to play you david duke who is the person most famous for taking the klan and the hood off and dressing up in a brooks brother's suit, this is david duke at the rally today talking about what the rally means to him. >> this represents a turning point. for the people of this country. we are determined to take our country back. we are going to fulfill the promises of donald trump. that is what we believed in, that is what we voted for donald

trump because he is going to take our country back and that is what we have to do. >> is there a difference really substantively between the so-called alt right and people like david duke? >> no, joy. there is no difference at all. alt right is just a fancy name as you said for white supremacist and white nationalist and they are essentially the same. what i think is important to note about today and what happened in charlottesville is that over 12 different organizations that are affiliated with white nationalism and white supremacists came together under this banner upinite the right. and there was a poster emblazed with join or die and they had the vanguard america, identity ropa and the nationalist social movement and anti-community movement. this is what i believe reverend barber spoke to earlier, this is

a very strategic move on the part of white nationalists and white supremacists. i would also note that david duke, after the president's statement, seemed to be disappointed and reminded the president that it was white america that put him into office and not liberal activists. >> wow! and darrell lamont, you have infiltrated the white nationalist groups an gotten to know the thinking up close. is it unfair of people to say that donald trump's election has energized them? >> well, first, i want to send my condolences to the families of those that were -- that died today. i've been doing this for a about 30 years now and i have yet to see this kind of carnage. it is ridiculous. and to your point, the fact of the matter is donald trump was basically emboldening these individuals. they made it clear well before he even announced, so he can't

get away from it. and i find it really interesting that a guy who made a whole human cry over the fact that president obama did not use the words radical islamic terrorism could not bring himself to call this for what it is. neo fascism and call out the national policy institute and all of the other groups that showed up and basically cancel them out as any kind of rell vaps in today's society. he had the opportunity to do that today and as we expected, he missed it. >> yeah. and rob, you know, you just made a movie about lyndon johnson, lbj and it gets to the idea of what a president can do when he has a sense of sort of the gravity of his office. what do you make of the fact that when donald trump did step to a microphone, it was to say all sides and to not specifically name the groups as you just heard darrell say.

>> well, because he doesn't care about anything except donald trump. and he's looking at the people that got him there, and that is all he cares about. i mean, you mentioned it earlier joy. he had marco rubio and orrin hatch, paul ryan, all saying the right thing. but he's the president of the united states. and he needs to condemn these groups. he once said, i -- i could shoot somebody on fifth avenue and i wouldn't lose any support. well, this is like a person died today. and so he didn't shoot him. but you could consider him an accessory because he's been stoking this stuff for years. so unless he comes out in a full-throated condemnation of what we saw today, then -- and risk losing these people, then he's not the president of what we know as the united states of

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charlottesville, director and co-counsel of the naacp legal defense fund. thank you for joining me on a very difficult day. you've spent a great deal of time and ldf has spent a great deal of time in the last seven months battling with the renewed version of the justice department over voting rights and civil rights and over where the federal government is going to come down on those issues. i want to read you what the attorney general jeffrey sessions had to say about the violence in charlottesville and get your reaction. he said, we stand behind the president in condemning the violence in charlottesville and any message of hate and intolerance. your thoughts? >> well, the problem with that statement is the generalized condemnation of hate -- of disembodied hate, refuses to place really the blame where it needs to be and refuses to take responsibility for the reality of what has happened since the

campaign and certainly since the inauguration, which is the exponential rise of hate crimes in this country. we have not heard a fullsome condemnation of it from the president or from attorney general sessions. the counterprotesters who came today, those young people standing in the square last night at the university of virginia speaking out against white supremacy came out of the love for their country and stood for equality and justice. today the president signed legislation for veterans. this would have been an opportunity for him to mention ricky best, killed in portland, oregon, by a white supremacist when he tried to stand up for someone on the light rail. or richard collins, killed at

the university of maryland, just commissioned as a second lieutenant in the rotc. we've heard very little from the president and jeff sessions and his statement is anemic and this has been going on since the inauguration. leadership requires the president to speak out. at this point in 2017, after bedrooming ham and the freedom rides and john lewis and edmond pettis bridge and james bird and everything that we have fought for in terms of racial justice

we cannot pretend that it is normal for the president of the united states not to speak out forcefully against the white supremacy that we've been seeing for the last few months. >> i looked at the second half of the statement from jeff sessions and he says it's contrary to american values and cannot be tolerated. the question that people are asking at the pit of their stomach is whether or not people with affiliations, somebody like sebastian gorka or stephen miller or being challenged by this federal government, whether or not people of color can feel

safe there wasn't a huge police presence like we've seen in baltimore or ferguson. are people too paranoid to feel unsafe today? >> first of all, i don't think people are paranoid. what you just laid out, the onus is on this administration to prove that they are prepared to fully protect african-americans and racial minorities and so forth because their rhetoric has given the concern and fear that this government does not intend to vigorously uphold the civil rights laws. it's up to president trump and jeff sessions to make sure if they intend to do that, they intend to do that. one of the pieces you mentioned, joy, are the members of the white house and to the expect you have steve bannon who called himself the alt-right, if there

was an alt-right, america saw that today. should that person be the chief strategist? and you spoke about sebastian gorka at the inauguration and being affiliated with a nationalist group in hungary. these are people close to the president. last week, sebastian gorka made a statement that we criticize white supremacist too much. people are seeing very clearly and we should be demanding a course direction from every single member of congress should be standing up and saying, you know what, maybe we were asleep at the switch but today let's prove at least david duke makes this a turning point for the court, not in the way he meant but where we get our senses back and recognize what we are supposed to be, what we are supposed to stand for and we become uncompromising on that

including with this president. >> there were attacks on members of the clergy, physical attacks, people who had bats and brass knuckles. what do you make on the attacks on the members of the religious community today? >> yes. so the clergy knew what was going to happen and they were not armed and came prepared for their faith and to the extent they came to injure them or harm them, what's what we want to hear, his preparedness to fully investigate those who came to do violence against peaceful protesters. what we wanted to hear was the president say, i have instructed my department -- our department of justice to make this the highest priority of investigation over the next week. that's what we expected to hear and that's what we did not hear today.

>> thank you, as always, for your time. >> thank you, joy. >> you can catch me tomorrow. in the meantime, keep it right here on msnbc. >> joy, thanks very much. we're going to continue our coverage right here on msnbc through the next hour keeping everybody up to speed on the violence that happened in charlottesville today and we continue with the breaking news coverage and there have been three deaths that happened today all caused by the white nationalist in charlottesville, virginia. the governor, terry mccaauliffe said that a 32-year-old female was killed by police -- killed -- excuse me. by the driver of that car. police are calling this a criminal homicide investigation. a male driver plowed into this group of counterprotesters. th